What if the Industrial Revolution Never Happened? (Ft. List 25)
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- The 21st century is defined by technology. But what if it, wasn't? What if the Industrial Revolution never happened? With help from List25, here is one scenario.
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well, the environment would be happier for sure......
Probably
+FantasticMr.Fox Not really that much, if nothing changed every home would burn coal/wood for heat and not use electricity wich would be almost the same if not more hurtfull for the environment
+FantasticMr.Fox the environment would be safer, the population wouldn't be happier. you are referring to global warming, a thing, don't pretend it can have feelings. (also, fossil fuels are going to be replaced hopefully soon, pretend the earth has entered it's teen years and started smoking like crazy, but then the e-cig (or something else) happened in a few years... that. or young death :P)
Farming really impacts the environment. Animals fart methane, and agriculture take lots of space, replacing forests, plains, jungles, etc.
+I ItsJustNils I no wrong.
Only 1700s and 1800s kids will understand this.
ye
i understand it
Only them
+Job J Born in 1793 and raised in the 1800's
+Job J
#1790's kid
So basically...we would stay in pre-industrial technology. Surprise.
What an idea, why didn't I think of that
No thank you. I like everything about the modern world and no amount of whining about the enviroment will make me give that up
@@aurelia8028 Hahaha nobody talked about that
Yeah exactly. Why did he almost didn't tackle on the topics of the actual things that happened in the world and wouldn't because of the Revolution?
@@aurelia8028 so you like corporations and big government breathing down your neck watching every movement, and more than 50% of workers feeling unsatisfied due to a lack of genuine impactful work? bro keep living in ignorance, contributing to the death of nature, individuality, and human creativity. the chances are high you provide nothing genuine to this world, and you're not even a gear but the grease in the machine
"Faster and cheaper than in China" not something that will ever happen again
Can't really say they're collapsing. It gets old after people kept saying for decades, it's like saying the apocalypse will happen, then it doesn't happen.
No labor laws means cheap production
Will now lol
@@os8mm178 dude china is booming right now have you seen pictures of it they look like every stock photo of a futuristic city minus the flying cars its sick
Thank you for the collab! We really had fun working with you and the final product is AWESOME!
hola
:D
You suck
+list25 please acquire a better mic, it really hurt the production.. other than that, glad to have you on here
Yay two of my favorite channels
Basically, we would live like the Amish.
Yup.....
Fuck no
+Michael Hyams HHHHHHIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS
+Herp a Derp exactly, fuck no.
+ShooterdoesMC Boss AWWWW FUCK NO!
What if the Neolithic Revolution never happened? We'd all be nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers. No alternative history, in fact, no history at all, because no writing. :P
The Unknown
Don't forget wild starchy roots and tubers, grass seeds, wild honey, fish, clams, crabs, shrimp, snails, locusts, whatever happens to be available and edible.
elfboi523 Then what the hell are cave paintings other than history, thus writing...? A good point otherwise, though.
The Unknown
Most children dying before their 5th birthday. Most of those who live long enough to grow up dying before the age of 60. There are still places on this planet where that's quite common.
The Unknown
They usually wouldn't attack an able adult human though, just children and elderly people. And humans would stick together in groups most of the time, keeping their young and old people safe.
As long as there is easier prey than humans, there isn't much danger, except from a few individual predators with a taste for manflesh. And those can be identified and killed.
Remember, we co-evolved with African predators, and as soon as you can organise a group and make flint-tipped spears, you can kill enough of them to make the survivors look for different prey. You might lose a few thrillseeking adolescent boys and young adult men hunting down the man-eaters, but later generations of predators wouldn't be as likely to hunt humans. A single human, however, or a small number of mostly children and/or old people, would attract predators, and therefore, situations like that were avoided by sticking together.
Once the predators know that it isn't safe to get too close to a human tribe, you can be pretty safe just by singing and dancing around the campfire at night, to show off your presence and your strength. Every once in a while, one of your people will get eaten, well, bad luck.
You'll have more children killed by sickness or hunger than by predators. A lot more. And you'll still have population growth as long as there is enough fertile land to be explored.
Once the Neolithic Revolution takes hold, predators become a huge problem: Sheep, cattle, chickens, pigs, all those are much easier to prey on than their wild ancestors. That's why farmers always want to hunt all the predators to extinction, and to hell with the ecology. Now we have human hunters trying to regulate wild animal populations as good as we can (which means, badly), because we're the only apex predators left. We've got far too many deer and wild boars here in Germany, because the few dozen wolves living in a few locations just can't take care of them. Yet farmers keep shooting or poisoning wolves, even if they might go to prison if they're caught.
That sounds like America after the 2016 election.
A huge factor sort of glossed over here, is that the initial need for coal was driven by a need for fuel for fireplaces and furnaces because agriculture had cut down most of the trees in england. So, the initial spark was actually resource scarcity imo
But wait! Wasn't industrial revolution inevitable? Wouldn't machines be built eventually?
-Billy
Well, no, actually. Mechanics were already a thing for centuries, and happened everywhere. But actual machines and industrialization basically only existed in Europe for a while and came to exist because of the bad living conditions: after the black plague in the 14 century it regularly returned so there was quite a bit of population lack. People needed machines to do the work, as there weren't people to do so. And before we knew it...Boom industry.
it could be possible to focus more on the mechanization of agriculture than on industry so that a farmer could produce with machines more food and he does not need the support of animals and other humans. or somewhere in teh 19th century the ordinary people overthrow their "capitalist" elites and run the fabrics and the economy by tehmselves
wojtekimbier
Gosh darn it billy
Not if you have a cheap enough labour force that would result in mechanisation not being worthwhile economically. It happened mostly because the cost of labour in England became weirdly high and subsequently replacing that labour force became a handy plan. This video's biggest problem is that it forgets that.
Well the industrial revolution could've happened in ancient Greece but the dude who invented the steam engine (Aeolipile) gave up on it.
And what if industrial revolution happened before the 19th century? Ancient greeks were able to create a very simple machine that worked with steam... what if they explored that machine further?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile
or the romans, who had problems with production and keeping a large empire
+SniperShy96 Then it will become like Atlantis
Greek Bourgeoisie exploiting Persian Proletariat.
+SniperShy96 - in England we created a knitting machine 230 years before our industrial revolution, but our queen wouldn't finance it as knew it would cause unemployment.
What if Gunpowder was never invented?
Yes! This is an amazing idea! :D
What if Britain never colonized American
Brendan Fligger that was already done
Brendan Fligger What if There was no pollution.
We would all be happy and content
Yeah, Under capitalism we are all slaves to desire, Saving up for the next new toy is the only thing that keeps us going.
I don't want mindless consumption anymore, I just want to be happy. . .
What if Persia (Modern-day Iran) never converted to Islam?
The world would be a better place... it's not even Iran's fault, people in Iran today seem to love their country as the Islamic Republic, but it's just Iran's crazy relationship with, well, everyone else... Iran and America hate each other so much it makes the situation in the Middle East a lot more difficult.
awakeningspirit20 well who's fault was it then that cause the coup de that that created the unnecessary monarchy in iran in the first place to pissed off the iranians then?
we would fight against Zoroastrism as the Greek and Romans did
@rétro that comment was 1 year old why did u even bother to correct him?
They have a splinter group form of Islam so in a sense they never had true Islam in iran
Also guys, when you talked about the UK in the year 1760 you used the wrong flag, the Union Flag wouldn't have had the red stripe over the white stripes since that didn't occur until the Act of Union of 1801.
17?0-1860
Illium What?
I'm pretty sure it happened in 1707
***** There was an Act of Union in 1707, but it was the one that unified Scotland and England, not Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Union flag was born in 1707, but it didn't have the saltire of St Patrick(the red 'x' running over the white 'x') until 1801.
+Kyle Edwards Talk when you're sure not pretty sure.
Industrial society and it's consequences
"...how society changed so quickly and in such a quick amount of time..."
Does "quickly" mean anything other than "in a quick amount of time"?
no
OMG PERFECT TIMING!!!!! We are just starting the Industrial Revolution in school and I can use some facts you state to show off to the class :D no hour-long documentaries this chapter!
Not so great timing for me bc we just finished the chapter on development in AP human geography. ):
bobtheflyingdonkey :/
I just finished my section on it :(
+bobtheflyingdonkey AP US History is already deep into the Cold War for me so....fuck...
same here
My guess is that countries would have remained less stable, including the United States. Because of the vast distance, it would have been much easier for a Union to break up or change structurally.
However, I still imagine an age of sail, just not an age of colonization.
Large kingdoms existed way before industrialization
Like mughal empire in India
the mysterious Which collapsed
@@DakkogiRauru23 yes because of many things happening at right time but there are many that succeeded tho
American kingdom could've been one
the mysterious Not really. See, before industrialization, there was no way to produce more food to feed a growing population as much as we have today. There also wasn’t a free market that could address shortages via trade. The state owned everything.
Whenever a state started lacking in resources, which was all the time, the only solution was to concur another territory and extract its resources.
This led to frequent collapse of kingdoms, no matter how long lived they were.
Frequent collapse is the opposite of stable.
@@DakkogiRauru23 and yet the Roman Empire and Egyptian kingdoms lasted for millennia, not quite a series of "frequent collapses".
There are no rules to history that happen 100% of the time if certain conditions are met.
Cody “Just doesn’t happen” Alternate History
Michigander here. We may go to war with Ohio for many other reasons, but in the pop vs. soda battle, we and our buckeye brethren fight as one.
My dad won't even buy Ice Cream if it's made in Michigan
Not liking having list25 on this....
Why
Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression thats really going to help kids from crippling depression
+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression Seriously, fuck off.
+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression MY NAME IS COOL CAT AND I LOVE ALL KIDS
I LOVE BABIES
THEY'RE PAINTING ON SOMEONE'S WALL AND IT'S NOT COOL TO PAINT ON SOMEONE'S WALL
+Sharqueesha Johnalaneesha *IHE
Perfect timing. I have one week to write a college paper about the Industrial Revolution, gonna steal your stuff. Thanks bra
I cannot imagine two more different youtubers making a collab together, but it somehow worked, so props to you
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What if Britain sided with the central powers in World War One?
Yes
Very unlikely, yet intriguing nevertheless.
+Brandoosky well if Germany never went through Belgium we probably would of
+Shrek Dank *have
Unlikely just because they had a few wars against the US and France wouldn't make them not side which us
What if MacArthur used nuclear weapons on the Chinese during the Korean War? The USSR at the time had very few nuclear weapons and the Chinese had absolutely none, so I don't think a nuclear apocalypse would be likely.
Yass, do this timeline.
Please do this
oh god yes. please do this
@@beans11138 he already did it i believe
Probably one of my favorite of your videos. Keep it up!
Do a: What if the Portuguese never explored the world? Could europe be discovered by the Indians or Chinese? Or even by the Astecs? How the world would have been nowadays?
Or if Portugal was united with Spain and never left from the middle ages onwards.
India and China already knew Europe before Portugal, they were trading back in Roman times. Do you mean the Americas?
awakeningspirit20 yeah your right because In 100 c.e (a.d) the Indians had been in the Silk Road along with the Chinese
Somebody would take their place probably the Spanish or the French, maybe the Hanseatic cities or Venetians will be their rivals
There wouldn't be a Tordesillas Treaty, meaning the world wouldn't be divided between Castille and Portugal. Since Portuguese domain in Brazilian coasts was legitimized by this treaty, and Castille's discovery of the Americas had more to do with Columbus getting information from Aragonese fishermen, I believe that would result in Spaniards total control of South America and the Caribbean. The stablishment of trading points in India and China are a whole different topic. I imagine any European potency would have arrived sooner or later.
I seriously just had a huge conversation about this two days ago and Cody and I said the EXACT SAME STUFF. This is so cool. It's awesome hearing support on how realistic an alternative scenario is.
This video title: *exists *
Ted Kaczynski: hold my pipe bomb
This was great, love it
Great plug.
This actually sounds a lot nicer than real life
Poor transportation logistics and medical tech slowly progressing sounds like a lot of fun for you, I bet.
@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 yes. Yes it does liberal
@@eduardsusai559
Another Hippie luddite being wrong.
"Without steam engines, factories are left dependent on rivers to turn their turbines. Like Barbarians." I laughed.
Great videos I love all of them!
Miners gathering coal: 😃
Minors gathering coal: 😨
Then the creepy Valve-in-back-of-head guy from the intro to steam games wouldn't exist.
9:22
"less people around to talk to"
sounds good to me
This video taught me so much thank you!
Very interesting video!
Hey AlternateHistoryHub!
Being an Armenian, I've always been fascinated by everything Armenian, specifically their wars. Just in case you didn't know (which I highly doubt), Turkey, and Armenia have sort of been in a feud. In the early 1900's, due to religious differences and jealousy, over a million Turkish-Armenians were massacred in an unrecognized genocide. I was wondering:
-What if the Armenian Genocide never happened?
I know for a fact that Adolf Hitler actually brought up the Armenian Genocide to convince people on how no one would realize the Jewish people would be exterminated, and I'm sure a lot more would have happened if the genocide never took place.
Since the Armenian Genocide remembrance day is this coming April 24th, I was hoping you could possibly make a video about it.
Sincerely
~A random internet person
Here's a link explaining it all: www.armenian-genocide.org/ottoman.html
Turks still don't recognize it to this day, so sad. Yes I believe the genocide inspired both Hitler and Stalin.
Death shall come in droves good idea!
Ps. Love the username!
Everytime you said Armenian, I read American
exactly right, The Assyrians and Greeks heck even the Armenians never rebelled against the ottomans and were basically murdered for no reason other than being Christians, the fact that the turkish government today denies the existence of these genocides means these pieces of shit in power are no different than the ottomans
I have a suggestion.
What if Leon Trotsky took power after lenin died (not Stalin)?
As an avid communist myself, I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. The future of communism would be far different if Lenin's final wishes to put Trotsky in charge of the USSR were respected.
@@CatMaster90001 comrade🚩⚒
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that question is answered in the video ''What if Stalin never rose to power?''
I love the animation of the video so much as I have been through it all but I have got to chat with the concept of this story
This really helped me on my econ debate about this, thanks!
On the bright side global warming wouldn't exist and the environment as a whole would be a lot cleaner.
+Rob Ski You want another bright side ??
No capitalism. Wealth would remain balanced in all classes, and generally, employance would not be such a problem, meaning that no man would be starving.
Also, since colonisation is absent, Africa would remain untouched and nobody would take its resources, meaning that you wouldn't have children in Africa starving.
Cultures rarely meet, globalisation would not even be a thing, ammunition would not have been made in such ammounts, ideas would not spread and people would revolt much less, meaning that, generally, there would be less wars and less bloodshed.
I also belive that, even without medicine, people would not die or be sick from diseases that much, because people travel much less without modern transport, and so, diseases themselves would have hard time spreading.
And yes, we would have healthier people and safer enviroment, because, besides global warming, air pollution that has strong effect on pulmonary diseases (asthma, bronchitis, even lung cancer) would be absent.
There would be no drugs, because they wouldn't be able to travel from distant parts in Asia and South America.
There would be no tobacco, too, reasulting in, again, healthier population.
I see a brither world without Industrial Revolution.
Samsung Galaxy Good points. Although I think the tobacco trade began before the industrial revolution. And I think our life expectancy would be much shorter and our health care system would be a total joke by today's standards.
+Rob Ski Yah you're right, I said it wrongly. Sure, there would BE tobacco, but it wouldn't be able to TRAVEL so quickly without steamboats and trains.
+Samsung Galaxy Good points but then we're forcing ourselves to be blissfully ignorant. No future or past, who knows, maybe it's a good thing.
Kalyan Arc without the industrial revolution the agricultural revolution wouldn’t progress as much and there would be much less food so there would still be a lot of starvation when disasters struck
"Thank you good King jolly jolly what what" had me laughing. Seriously though, this was an interesting one..
dude you deserve more subs
THNX HELPED ME ON MY POWERPOINT HAD NO IDEAS TIL I SAW DIS
I think you should do something about if an industrial revolution happened on the 1st century. There was actually a Greek scientist screwing around with a miniature steam engine IN THE 1st CENTURY! cool
I would LOVE that video!!!!
+Steve Chadwarz The Greeks also invented an early analog computer. Ever heard of the Antikythera?
+Elvesflame I have! It was found in a ancient ship, wasn't it?
Steve Chadwarz Yup, at the bottom of the sea
We would become a utopia
Where you would die in your 20's, is that utopia?
@@user-yy5di3qg5u how would I die in my 20s? In a war? The "enlightenment" was still before the industrial revolution, dumbass, so they didn't levy people anymore.
@@user-yy5di3qg5u да, вопросы? Жизнь наполненная жизнью, а не соевым существованием, действительно лучше.
@@IkarosDC К тебе у меня вопрос получше - что ты в интернете забыл тогда?
I prefer this timeline.
Excellent
This is basically the future Thomas Malthus was afraid of.
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I'm immortal
Another Stalin which one is imposter!?!?!?!?!?!?
@@os8mm178 early among us player
Enjoyable intro and context, great setting of baseline (what WOULDN'T have happened without the Industrial Revolution) but I wish we had some takes on what WOULD have happened instead. Though that is incredibly more speculative.
I get the best screen shots from this guy's videos
What if the industrial revolution happened 100 years earlier
we'd be more advanced now probably
+Hugh B.B I heard that the industrial revolution could have happened several centuries earlier in China. But one of the key elements was missing. There is no water in the chinese coal mines so, no need for a steam engine. If it did happen the worl woul be quite different.
If the Industrial Revolution never happened,there would be no dank memes,and there would be no reasons for me to exist.
Born too late to explore the earth. Born too early to explore the galaxy. Born just in time to browsr dank memes.
Could you cover another WW1 scenario? Mainly what if "Halt in Belgrade" occurred and Austria-Hungary was able to mobilize fast enough to invade and occupy Belgrade after the death of Archduke Ferdinand.
Also this video was amazing, thanks for making it and collaborating with List 25!
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
Everything you said is wrong.
what if England won the 100 years war instead of France?
Actually, the 100 Years War was a draw, neither country won.
SomeRandomHetalian Oh yeah my mistake. I just thought France won because they took back France from England.
Okay okay sorry *Hands in air, backing away*
what if public education was outlawed by government (today) and all those who sought education had to pay businesses or craftsmen to teach them skills, much like guilds and apprenticeships during renaissance.
@James what the hell does that mean? France held the line the entire time in WW1. and then theres the french resistance.
What if the Cold War never happened?
Post-singularity
9/11
I think he did a video on that.
The hot war would have happened.
+CatMan XD
Really interesting scenario
Cody your SO close to 1000000 subs
Ted k wouldn’t have to be based.
Working hours would be shorter than today and so is life expectancy. Value of life increases relative to today's and thereby a shorter living but happier society. Also no climate change to battle and thereby no massive extinction of life and destruction of environment in an unprecedented scale.
Cool video Cody. Perhaps one day you could do a ''what if the boxer rebellion never happened?''
Ah yes, this is what shaped our modern technological world
Basically we wouldn't be choking on air
"The agricultural society and its consequences have been a disaster for our society" - Ked Taczynski
5:37 Nice Jacks Films reference :)
It should be remembered that for most of the period of the Industrial Revolution, the majority of industries still relied on wind and water power as well as horse and man-power for driving small machines. In which case, without steam engines, there still technically would have been factories, just not steam powered ones. Instead they would have been sophisticated wind and water mills, as well as solar updraft engines like the one first proposed in 1903 by the Spanish Colonel Isidoro Cabanyes. There may have also been mills powered by geothermal steam vents, hence steam mills. Not to mention concepts like “Division of labor” and “Assembly lines” would still be applied. In short, mass production would still be possible.
I've spent most of my spare time today, viewing your entertaining vids.
Personally, I love studying alternate history by playing God-games - like Civilization.
Being Scandinavian, I always play Viking. And I sometimes use my longboats to colonize the America's.
This actually happened, but in our timeline the colonies were abandoned.
So here's my proposition:
WHAT IF... The Vikings extensively colonized the America's ? And held on to their colonies?
2:13 who noticed that Chinas character had really small eyes 😂😂😂
4:15 what a jolly smart idea, hanging munitions in the air, suspended over more munitions
Ayyy Michigan says pop too gotta stand togetherrrr
What if PornHub was never invented ?
+Oh hi Mark RedTube.
+Oh hi Mark Other porn sites
+JuJu lots of rape. lel
Cody you should do "What if the industrial revolution happened in China first?"
Nothing changes
either way they would still be the most industrial country today
+Starkiller Look up recent events in china... It was, is, and always was, going to be a house of cards with no real industrial foundation. And I won a $50,000 bet i made with my political science professor back in 1999 recently, because of just how crappy china is doing and that it's literally on the brink of collapse unless it starts using its army, and creates a enemy to unify the people again. They chose Japan in the last few weeks. Seriously do u not read the news?
+Eli Gutman I watch European news
+Starkiller ....usa is number one.
we call it pop in the uk aswell, also jolly good video chap what what
One of these days, can you please do a video on What if Rome Industrialized?
Unscramble these words!
1.)PNEIS
2.)HTIELR
3.)NGGERI
4.)BUTTSXE
Did you get SPINE, LITHER,
GINGER, and SUBTEXT?
+4formsofMATTer Lol
+4formsofMATTer You sir, are the oddest Bernie Sanders supporter I've seen yet. And I've seen quite alot on the internet.
What if the Sino-Soviet Split never happened?
+Mr. Lello 333 Seriously can u imagine if modern russians knew, and acted like, they were just white mongols? In a way they do, they are simultaneously the smartest and the most militaristic "european" nation.
Dude i love your voice
1:40 nice reference to parks and rec
What if, at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't split, and instead was a single, neutral country left to its own devices?
It would probably just become wedded to the West and America after the Marshall plan rained money on it like in our time line with West Germany. The Soviet Union would have a wall on the border of Poland, not Germany.
@@wampower6848 there probably wouldn't have been a wall at all. There was no wall in East Germany, but East Berlin, which was far beyond the East German border. Berlin is on an island. So it's much easier to wall off than an extensive 290 mile border.
That being said they actually got close. 2 walls both roughly 82 miles. Maybe they could have done it if enough Poles defected, but certainly not overnight.
So it seems like it was simpler but more culture in individual areas and some atrocities such as African colonization and the horrible conditions factory workers faced were prevented sounds good to me. Although there would also be the absence of modern medicine but the obesity epidemic would be avoided.
Convenient that my first time watching this channel is a collaboration LoLz
I died when you showed that shot of you on the pony.
What if the AlternateHistoryHub channel Never existed?
World War 3
What if China maintained its Imperial rule during the 19th and 20th century? Would have it fallen eventually or stay afloat as a major power?
God i love this channel!
+Salokin Sekwah He already did the russian revolution and the hannibal thing.
+papajack222 Thanks!
i like how mike from top 25 with over 2 million subscribers is animated
Happy New Year! Woohoo
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What if Napoleon succeed in his plan to invade Great Britain?
+1'd; good idea.
He'd immediately run back to France on first sight of Scotland.
the anime code geass happens lol
Just learned about this
The animation style makes this what it is
Love how 80%of the video isn't about the actual alternate timeline.
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a major catastrophe for the human race... ~ Teddy K.
This Teddy K guy sounds like an idiot
@@Frozo-nt2ky he was a mathematical genius.
"They upload a video every 200 years on a wide range of fascinating subjects"
- a ytp i saw about this
8 billion by 2025?