After five years of Boeing ineptitude, why does NASA really need Starliner?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • Starliner was supposed to take astronauts to the ISS in 2020! Now, after nearly five years of Boeing ineptitude, why does NASA really need this thing?
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Komentáře • 406

  • @jimmyzhao2673
    @jimmyzhao2673 Před měsícem +166

    Ahem,... Don't be trash-talking Boeing, it might be hazardous to your health.

    • @NAKEDGARDENER
      @NAKEDGARDENER Před měsícem

      One might argue that at this time Boeing IS hazard to everyones health

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 Před měsícem +24

      It might even make you suicidal!

    • @tim1883
      @tim1883 Před měsícem +7

      Keep your doors on fellas. They aren't that bad.

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 Před měsícem

      @@tim1883 Boeing is the rich kid with all the education and opportunities who blew it all on parties. It's the Prodigal Son of space companies who was use to Big Daddy Uncle Sam paying the bills.

    • @TubbyJ420
      @TubbyJ420 Před měsícem +3

      His eyes will still be wide open and never blink.

  • @Nurse_Diesel
    @Nurse_Diesel Před měsícem +40

    I worked at Boeing for 18 Years. When they moved their headquarters out of Seattle, everything fell apart.

    • @TheAngryAstronaut
      @TheAngryAstronaut  Před 29 dny +6

      Do you think that the move to SC to hobble the union caused most of the damage?

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Před 29 dny +1

      nah it was already falling apart,
      that was just to rub it in.

    • @davidhanna8470
      @davidhanna8470 Před 29 dny

      I first did a big job for Boeing in the 80's. The Boeing Gloves meant your hands in your pants while they built themselves. I also worked on the Wing Machine. I can't believe that rivet gun worked. Lazy and amaxing. The Lazy B.

    • @davidhanna8470
      @davidhanna8470 Před 29 dny

      @@TheAngryAstronaut no the Chi-town move did the damage.

    • @Nurse_Diesel
      @Nurse_Diesel Před 29 dny +1

      @@TheAngryAstronaut Not sure but when I worked there, they packed up and moved to Chicago. It was a huge company with the feel of a small company until they moved.

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +11

    STARLINER WAS OBSOLETE BEFORE IT EVEN LEFT THE FACTORY ! ! !

  • @Smiles10130
    @Smiles10130 Před měsícem +10

    There are 4 crew dragons. So even if one was disabled or destroyed, they have 3 more and one more on the way.

  • @andrewbeaumont3864
    @andrewbeaumont3864 Před 28 dny +6

    Starliner is the last gasp of "Old Space". It's failures are both systemic and endemic.

  • @tomray8765
    @tomray8765 Před měsícem +28

    Somebody is being paid off.

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 Před měsícem +7

      Boeing must have heard of the saying, 'Plata o Plomo' Silver or Lead.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@jimmyzhao2673 I prefer lead, it's sweeter when you chew it.

    • @davidhanna8470
      @davidhanna8470 Před 29 dny +3

      Can I get some action on that? I raise sheep in deep country. Maybe i could hide a UFO in my barn.

    • @davidhanna8470
      @davidhanna8470 Před 29 dny +2

      Demons say,"feathers or lead".

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 Před 29 dny +6

    It may still happen that Starship launches men into orbit before Starliner.

  • @tomparmenter8665
    @tomparmenter8665 Před měsícem +50

    I'm glad I'm not flying on that rocket given Boeing record lately!

    • @tscchope
      @tscchope Před měsícem +15

      They better have a crew dragon on stand-by to mount a rescue mission.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Před 29 dny

      you could always take your chances on one of their jets 😅

  • @johnstewart579
    @johnstewart579 Před měsícem +16

    Thank you Jordan. Looking forward to Dream Chaser launch

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před měsícem +8

    WHY DO WE NEED STARLINER WHEN DRAGON HAS PROVED THAT IT IS BETTER AND CHEAPER ? ? ?

  • @waynespringer3320
    @waynespringer3320 Před měsícem +9

    Glad to see someone understanding the pitfalls of Starliner. Scrap it before someone gets hurt or worse.

  • @ArthurPaliden
    @ArthurPaliden Před měsícem +18

    Starliner, as with all government projects, is required for the votes, jobs, that it generates across the US. Getting a working space launch system out of the project is just a benefit.

  • @carlosguevara5154
    @carlosguevara5154 Před 29 dny +14

    we need a secrect word for boeing.. just to keep us safe lol

  • @TheDavidPoole
    @TheDavidPoole Před měsícem +6

    90 mil? There's not even a free bar!

  • @NAKEDGARDENER
    @NAKEDGARDENER Před měsícem +29

    LOL the first time AA has seen blue sky and sunshine in the UK thats funny

    • @RavenTD46
      @RavenTD46 Před měsícem +2

      It's been a pretty good few days for weather so far. I probably just put a kiss of death on it.

    • @NAKEDGARDENER
      @NAKEDGARDENER Před měsícem +1

      @@RavenTD46Nice to see spring in England. Warming up nicely here too now.

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk Před měsícem +1

      It wasn’t real, it was blue screen.
      Ba dum tss
      I’ll show myself out

    • @markbishop4774
      @markbishop4774 Před 29 dny

      @@c1ph3rpunk after virtually 6 months of non stop rain ANY sun in the UK is a cause for celebration 🥳

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +4

    STARLINER IS GOING NOWHERE FAST ! ! !

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +3

    THERE'S NO EARTHLY WAY OF KNOWING WHICH WAY THIS STARLINER IS GOING ! ! !

  • @Knights_of_Zurg
    @Knights_of_Zurg Před měsícem +8

    Sierra Space's craft Dreamchaser is very cool, and I hope it's successful. I'm rooting for them all to be successful. I especially like Dreamchaser on top of a Falcon-9.
    That seems like it's a good combination of performance, capability, and reusability.

  • @CyFr
    @CyFr Před měsícem +8

    At this point in time NASA doesnt need starliner, NASA needs the next vehicle that will keep us in space.

    • @rinconchuck
      @rinconchuck Před 29 dny +1

      Dream Chaser! Just needs a falcon 9 for a ride!

  • @Tek-eo3li
    @Tek-eo3li Před měsícem +5

    I can't believe Boeing is being trusted to build a manned spacecraft.

  • @LindaMadlala
    @LindaMadlala Před měsícem +6

    Starliner is no longer a space mission craft but a congressional jobs program and automatic teller machine for Boeing. NASA is has no say in it, unfortunately. It's utility expired in 2018/19 before it even flew.

  • @mikefeierberg7712
    @mikefeierberg7712 Před měsícem +4

    The purpose of Starliner is to create jobs at ULA and its subcontractors. Whether it carries astronauts to orbit is secondary.

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +4

    STARLINER IS A FLYING COFFIN DUMPSTER ! ! !😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @johnfrisbie5613
    @johnfrisbie5613 Před měsícem +5

    Flying on that thing should be a punishment for crime

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před měsícem +4

    THE INEVITABLE ONGOING STARLINER DEBACLE ! ! !

  • @robertpaulson1058
    @robertpaulson1058 Před měsícem +7

    The door will probably fly off mid flight

  • @stevewalker6936
    @stevewalker6936 Před 29 dny +2

    I love that Dreamchaser and can’t wait for it to launch.

  • @gregkelly2145
    @gregkelly2145 Před měsícem +4

    Elon wanted and had Dragon designed to be capable of propulsive landing. NASA mandated the water landing for Dragon.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Před 29 dny

      interesting

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Před 29 dny

      probably just to give starliner a chance 😅

  • @mercerconsulting9728
    @mercerconsulting9728 Před 29 dny

    Thank you for all your hard work posting these. I will support you financially when I am able, and I apologize for enjoying them for free in the meantime.

  • @BBBrasil
    @BBBrasil Před 29 dny +1

    One thing the Sierra Dream Chaser cannot do that Boing does: provide 35,000 direct jobs + thousands more in indirect supply chain.
    This is the only metric that matters for the Congress to keep NASA alive.

  • @markfinch2016
    @markfinch2016 Před měsícem +6

    Starliner is a bit of a White Elephant 🐘

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +2

    STARLINER WAS OBSOLETE WHILE IT WAS STILL ON THE DRAWING BOARD ! ! !

  • @JenniferA886
    @JenniferA886 Před měsícem +1

    Nice vid AA 👍👍👍

  • @slobodan888
    @slobodan888 Před měsícem +3

    If it's Boeing, I 'ain't going!

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 29 dny +1

      How original. Did you think that up yourself?

    • @aaaaa5272
      @aaaaa5272 Před 18 dny +1

      @@executivesteps 🙂🙂🙂

  • @caclech
    @caclech Před měsícem +1

    Great video!

  • @metriczeppelin
    @metriczeppelin Před 29 dny +3

    That's $35 mil more PER ASTRONAUT! Can we say "price gouging"??

  • @electricflyer81
    @electricflyer81 Před měsícem +4

    I had a dream last week where the Atlas booster failed much like the Challenger did on launch. I saw the entire craft falling into the ocean. I really hope that this was just a nightmare...

    • @downix
      @downix Před 29 dny

      Considering Atlas V has never had a failure, I would say your nightmare is baseless. The last Atlas which failed was an Atlas I, back in 1993, and it still reached orbit, just not the right orbit.

    • @dennisdenise1
      @dennisdenise1 Před 29 dny

      I feel the launch will go well. When the capsule is on its own after separation, at that point I’m concerned.

  • @Togidubnus
    @Togidubnus Před měsícem +1

    Glad you've been enjoying the weather, AA. For anyone who doesn't live here, the UK weather so far this year has been the most miserable in memory. But finally, the last two days, something you could almost mistake for spring. Perhaps there's a metaphor for Boeing in there somewhere.

  • @tim1883
    @tim1883 Před měsícem +17

    Boeing is going to show you the door...if they can find it.

    • @frjoethesecond
      @frjoethesecond Před měsícem

      They can't find it. That's why they've started shooting people.

    • @JurassicJenkins
      @JurassicJenkins Před 29 dny

      The door is on the ground, the bathroom is on the right.

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 Před 29 dny

      @@JurassicJenkins On the ground in a backyard somewhere.

  • @garystrankman3841
    @garystrankman3841 Před měsícem +4

    Love your Dalek voice at the end!!!

    • @JenniferA886
      @JenniferA886 Před měsícem +3

      I don’t normally get to the end of most videos

  • @paulhagley359
    @paulhagley359 Před 28 dny +2

    Angry be careful I believe another Whistleblower at Boeing has just died

  • @RussianOldSpice
    @RussianOldSpice Před měsícem +2

    StarLiner is basically the new Titanic Sub

  • @JenniferA886
    @JenniferA886 Před 29 dny +2

    PROs = not many CONs = cost, trust with Boeing, dragon works fine

  • @markisaac3550
    @markisaac3550 Před 29 dny

    Thank for info

  • @lyleshoostine1683
    @lyleshoostine1683 Před měsícem +13

    About Starliner:Did you notice the metal headrest? How that can be safe for one's head? Lots of metal, doesn't look too safe. Go Dreamchaser!!

    • @notapplicable2636
      @notapplicable2636 Před měsícem +4

      Not to even mention the fact that the "seats" are really just 3D printed plastic too against a metal backing

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas Před měsícem +5

      ​@@notapplicable2636 the seats on the U.S.S Enterprise from Star Trek were safer than that, and people died falling off those 😂

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Před měsícem +1

      I got to sit in an SR-71. They use similar technology with pilots in basically spacesuits.
      The seats are built into the suits. The helmet is the headrest.

    • @notapplicable2636
      @notapplicable2636 Před měsícem

      @@jtjames79 that can't be good...

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Před měsícem

      @@notapplicable2636 Everyone does it that way. SpaceX uses a single piece of custom carbon fiber.

  • @rgt4848
    @rgt4848 Před 29 dny +1

    No way I'd go into space inside of one of those things.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před měsícem +12

    Boeing whistleblowers saving the day again. Hopefully that one didn’t get deleted like the poor guys that have blown the whistle about Boeing’s planes.

    • @ryanab01
      @ryanab01 Před 29 dny

      They just terminated a second whistleblower.

  • @gi4dtv230
    @gi4dtv230 Před 18 dny +1

    The government will never drop Boeing, even if there's a catastrophic faulure with starliner with all lives lost. In fact they'll just give them another contract.

  • @nickfutter6544
    @nickfutter6544 Před 28 dny

    AA. Another expert an insightful post. Thank you for your service and pointing out common sense.

  • @swissbiggy
    @swissbiggy Před 29 dny

    Is this the back engineered UAP technology you always talk about Jordan ? Great stuff 😉✌

  • @thomasboese3793
    @thomasboese3793 Před 29 dny +1

    Absolutely no need for Starliner. What we need is a REUSEABLE vehicle like Dreamchaser.

  • @davidberry4256
    @davidberry4256 Před měsícem +2

    Thanks!

  • @michaelreid2329
    @michaelreid2329 Před 29 dny

    Hey Angry, thanks for the update. It will be interesting to see how the Dreamchaser heat tiles will handle the hear and stay put, both troublesome issues for Orion and Starship.

  • @aquanano1
    @aquanano1 Před 28 dny

    One benefit I can point out is that Starliner doors and windows are opening much more easier than competition. Who knows, maybe this maybecome important sometime...

  • @MrGoesBoom
    @MrGoesBoom Před měsícem +3

    They need it cause the people who control their budget told them they do. Man I don't envy those astronauts. Or the people that have to explain why they're going with a contractor that's charging more per seat on a vehicle with such a lousy track record, seriously behind schedule, and from a company with some serious track record issues as well

  • @spacexrocks1041
    @spacexrocks1041 Před 29 dny +1

    The bonus for the CEO of Boeing was $33 million for 2023. Ugh!

  • @moreysamson7424
    @moreysamson7424 Před měsícem

    Love the new glasses!

  • @ndystevens4051
    @ndystevens4051 Před 28 dny +1

    Careful with Boeing, you might end up in a box. Good to see the UK is treating you to some rare sunshine.

  • @Lappillainen
    @Lappillainen Před měsícem

    Thanks.

  • @BJARNE-SOLBERG
    @BJARNE-SOLBERG Před měsícem +2

    Hope they will survive

  • @ricksteruk
    @ricksteruk Před 29 dny

    OMG Sunshine :) Enjoy it while it lasts mate. You are becoming a true Brit!

  • @spleefthedude7747
    @spleefthedude7747 Před měsícem +5

    So they’re actually trying to put people in it!?!?

    • @Ron4885
      @Ron4885 Před měsícem +4

      Yeah. It's a scary thought. I wouldn't do it. I'm serious, I wouldn't do it.

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 Před měsícem +3

      It will be crewed with Boeing whistleblowers.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk Před 29 dny

      ​@@rozzgrey801lmao

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 Před 29 dny +1

      @@rozzgrey801 I don't think there are any left honestly.

  • @punkypinko2965
    @punkypinko2965 Před 29 dny +1

    Boeing should change their name to Deathtrap.

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

    THE WOEING IN BOEING STARLINER-MAX ! ! !

  • @nzoomed
    @nzoomed Před 29 dny +1

    Breaking news, launch postponed for safety inspection

  • @buppie2000
    @buppie2000 Před 19 dny

    Yep. I agree.

  • @greggweber9967
    @greggweber9967 Před měsícem

    One is the primary, and the other is the backup. When assuming it becomes available, the cheaper ride IMHO should be the primary, and the expensive ride should become the backup if really needed. There might be some minimum launches in the original contract, which would force expensive launches within a time limit.

  • @tomdolan9761
    @tomdolan9761 Před měsícem +1

    Another interesting question is that since Elon Musk open sourced the technology to land the first stage of these lift offs and Space X has been doing it for a decade why are these other idiot companies still throwing away perfectly good rocket motors?

  • @sailingfabule1805
    @sailingfabule1805 Před 28 dny +1

    True. It’s like if Boeing whistleblowers were flying in Boeing airplanes; high death rate. 😜

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před měsícem +3

    I THOUGHT 3D PRINTING WAS GOING TO MAKE MANUFACTURING ROCKETS AND SPACECRAFT CHEAPER ? ? ?

    • @Smiles10130
      @Smiles10130 Před měsícem +1

      It's the bureaucracy at boeing that is the problem and the cost. No iterative design.

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 Před 29 dny +1

      Not if Boeing has anything to say about it. They just won't use 3d printing.

  • @BBBrasil
    @BBBrasil Před 29 dny

    TL:DW No need whatsoever, in any case or circumstance.
    The only cases Jordan made somewhat worth mentioned is
    1) manual override controls, as if computers aren't way more precise and fast response than humans, but I have to mention that the enormous amount of software problems made me think the guys at Boing might have known several things we didn't;
    2) ISS re-boosting. If this is as important as it sounds, wouldn't be better to make a non-manned module that does exactly that? waaaay cheaper and simpler, no need to support humans inside !

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

    THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY TIMES YOU CAN KEEP FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE ! ! !

  • @bigianh
    @bigianh Před 29 dny

    Blue Sky & Sunshine are rare commodities here in the UK ;) They should have gone with Dreamchaser *Shrug*

  • @brianvanschyndel8686
    @brianvanschyndel8686 Před 29 dny

    Man, Again. I don’t always agree with you. But you are right on the money with this one.

  • @craigmackay4909
    @craigmackay4909 Před měsícem

    Crew rated dreamchaser 👌🏻

    • @Smiles10130
      @Smiles10130 Před měsícem +1

      Dream chaser also began in 2010 and recently was finished, so it's not exactly any better than starliner

    • @Spherical_Cow
      @Spherical_Cow Před 29 dny +1

      ​@@Smiles10130it would have been finished much sooner, if NASA gave it $4.2 Billion instead of giving it to Boeing...

  • @larryculver-go8kf
    @larryculver-go8kf Před měsícem

    Question: What is the ULA launch cost contribution to the per seat price?

  • @richardpavlov442
    @richardpavlov442 Před 29 dny

    But how do they even justify the almost double price?

  • @jamiesnow2670
    @jamiesnow2670 Před měsícem

    Amen I think

  • @TheAngryAstronaut
    @TheAngryAstronaut  Před 29 dny +2

    It's a little late. I've been trash talking for years.

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

      KEEP DOING What YOU Do BEST Mister Angry ! ! !👍

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

      You're WELCOME To POP Round For COFFEE At MY Home ANYTIME Jordan ! ! !👍

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +2

      B.T.W. I LIKE YOU WEARING YOUR RAY-BANS INDOORS JORDAN & YOU LOOK REALLY COOL ! ! !👍👍👍

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

      I GET IT JORDAN, THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT YOU GOTTA WEAR SHADES ! ! !👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @andrewhillis9544
      @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

      THE STARLINER CAPSULE LOOKS VERY CRUDE INSIDE & OUT COMPARED TO THE DRAGON & ORION CAPSULES WHICH LOOK CLEANER & SLEAKER INSIDE & OUT & ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR 'ALL GLASS COCKPITS/FLIGHTDECKS' ! ! !

  • @sherbournesubwaymess
    @sherbournesubwaymess Před měsícem +2

    Why isn't he wearing his trademark shades?

    • @Andrew-Kerr
      @Andrew-Kerr Před 29 dny

      He’s in Britain now. Over here, sunglasses are something you buy cheap from the petrol station shop on that one summer day that looks like it might turn a bit sunny later on, and then you lose them or leave them in your car’s glovebox (the place where Americans usually keep their gun!) in hope that they’ll still be there when you need them again sometime the following summer!

  • @brianw612
    @brianw612 Před měsícem

    We need it because no one wants to tell the guy who dedicated a major portion of his life that he is out of a job, thousands of times over.

  • @markfinch2016
    @markfinch2016 Před měsícem +2

    How do Aliens wash their windows they're always squiky clean 😂

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk Před měsícem +3

      Inter dimensional paper towels, they exist both inside and outside the craft at the same time, it moves itself.

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

    THE WOEING STARLINER ! ! !😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @mglenadel
    @mglenadel Před měsícem

    NASA does not need Starliner. Starliner is the whole reason for the two-company approach to the manned space capsule program: With two, if one f*cks up, there is still another to pick up the slack. Now, NASA would do better with two functional manned launch systems, so, now that they have Crew Dragon, NASA should look into a third option (Sierra Space) to complete the two it originally wanted.

  • @Fatpumpumlovah2
    @Fatpumpumlovah2 Před 29 dny +1

    its not spacex's fault dragon doesnt land on land... It was designed to do this but nasa wanted water landings.

  • @randynelson2265
    @randynelson2265 Před měsícem +1

    The Starliner is all polotical. If I recall properly, the Crew Dragon was origanly designed to land on land using the draco engines. But NASA insested on water landingd.

    • @yumenokoyume
      @yumenokoyume Před 29 dny

      Yeah. Technically, Dragon can do a reboost and land on land if they just let SpaceX do it. Elon Musk already said it but NASA is not interested. Maybe because, it will be the end of Starliner if they ask SpaceX to do that

    • @arthurhamilton5222
      @arthurhamilton5222 Před 29 dny +1

      No. The water landing was the first landing qualification. The propulsive landing was to take 2 years after water qualification. NASA insisted on a redesign so that the legs does not pop through the heat shield. SX management decided that water landing was good enough, since, Orion was doing it, too. So, SX invested the money into it's Superheavy booster and Starship program.

  • @jmf5246
    @jmf5246 Před 28 dny

    Solid rocket boosters should never be used on manned flights.

  • @OliverGrumitt
    @OliverGrumitt Před 29 dny +1

    Incredible the U.S. landed men on the Moon only 9 years from the beginning of Apollo, but Boeing, a very important and big aerospace company, cannot after 7 years or so, seems incapable of sending a spacecraft into mere low Earth orbit.
    I would not be surprised when the next launch attempt takes place, the headlines will read something like this - “New problems with Starliner that have cropped up have forced the postponement of the first flight until next year.” It is a headline that has come so familiar in the past few years.
    Of course, the next launch attempt may go very well and Starliner’s problems will finally be behind it. But it is also possible Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse
    may become U.S. President before a Starliner flight actually takes place!
    The 2 astronauts are showing a lot of courage in flying the Starliner and I pray and hope their courage and patience waiting to fly will be rewarded with a safe and successful flight. I think mere mortals would not dare fly Starliner under any circumstances whatsoever.

    • @executivesteps
      @executivesteps Před 29 dny

      And in current dollars, how much was spent in those 7 years?

  • @hermeticxhaote4723
    @hermeticxhaote4723 Před 29 dny

    I think you might be too hopeful on Dream Chaser's timeline. I love that thing, don't get me wrong. Even just the cargo version becoming operational will be a great thing. But they haven't even been able to test fly the cargo version yet and haven't even built the crew version.

  • @mrscottygreenwood
    @mrscottygreenwood Před měsícem +1

    Complete waste of tax dollars

  • @Absalon68
    @Absalon68 Před měsícem +2

    You answered your own question about why Starliner is needed by NASA: Readjusting the ISS's orbit.
    They really don't need it for transportation. They have more than 1 Dragon, and more than 1 Falcon, and there may even be a quick backup rig sitting and waiting in case something goes south, "up there". Depending on a "Questionable Enemy" for transportation or vehicle parts, has Never been any manor of sensible, and NASA knows it. But until Elon comes up with a "Tug" to push the ISS around, Starliner will be used to do that. . . And most likely that will be main and only reason from now on. They'll obviously throw on a few Astronauts and do a station crew swap, but the main reason for flying Starliner instead of Dragon, is to push the ISS back into orbit. . . something that Elon hasn't done just yet. (Star Donkey?? 😁)
    But, you already know that, right?

    • @johnmoruzzi7236
      @johnmoruzzi7236 Před měsícem +2

      The Northrop Grumman Cygnus spacecraft can also reposition the ISS... it still runs for NASA to complement the SpaceX Cargo Dragon even though its dedicated Antares launcher is for the moment discontinued...Cygnus has already launched on Atlas V 3 times and now Falcon 9 once ! So that is exactly why they need more than one company and program doing the same thing...

  • @nickslater7251
    @nickslater7251 Před měsícem +1

    1. Never hurts to have a back up option.
    2. What are the cancellation penalties in the contract

    • @Smiles10130
      @Smiles10130 Před měsícem +1

      There are 4 crew dragons. That is enough redundancy I think.

    • @ryanab01
      @ryanab01 Před 29 dny +1

      It hurts if your backup option is extremely expensive. Dragon is way more affordable, and there are already backups of it.

    • @nickslater7251
      @nickslater7251 Před 23 dny

      W

    • @nickslater7251
      @nickslater7251 Před 23 dny

      What happens if SpaceX is forced to ground all Crew Dragons? As happened to the Shuttle .
      True redundancy comes from not relying on more of the same design but having different solutions (if you can afford it)
      I'm not that impressed with Starliner, but with access to Soyuz becoming politically difficult, having an alternative design solution for manned flight does have its benefits (if those benefits are worth the cost.....)
      Personally, I hope manned Dream chaser will become the alternative to crew dragon

    • @ryanab01
      @ryanab01 Před 23 dny

      @nickslater7251 SpaceX has fast turnaround and development times, unlike Boeing. So if a disaster occurred and one of the Crew Dragons blew up, then SpaceX can make changes and build a new upper stage fast. This is because of their emphasis on rapid manufacturing processes that they employ. Musk mentioned that this step has been more difficult than actually building the rocket parts. Boeing, on the other hand, would take many years to change course, which would bankrupt any legitimate company.

  • @Trex531
    @Trex531 Před měsícem

    90 m per seat against 55 m by SpaceX? Jesus NASA, what are you thinking?
    I will never finish to understand why so much unconditional love with Boeing. Great video Jordan enjoy the blue sky!

    • @Smiles10130
      @Smiles10130 Před měsícem

      Boeing was the most beautiful woman in the world, who loved nasa and nasa loved back, but over the years she has gained weight and became lazy and violent (I love boeing, don't kill me), and nasa keeps on remembering the good ol days.

    • @Trex531
      @Trex531 Před měsícem +1

      @@Smiles10130
      That sounds pretty accurate, haha! I love Boeing too, I’m an airline pilot, now retired, and had the chance to fly the beautiful 727. It’s just that I miss the old Boeing….

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc Před měsícem

    As to the Dream Chaser, if things go really well, you won't see a human rated Dream Chaser for at least five years. By that time there will be other technologies in place too. I would reserve judgement until the cargo version launches maybe in June, July, August......

  • @Michealst1
    @Michealst1 Před měsícem

    I did not think you lived in England!!! What part ? north south?

  • @zafod101
    @zafod101 Před měsícem +3

    Still no UFO technology

  • @Agent77X
    @Agent77X Před měsícem +1

    NASA awarded Boeing almost 2 times the money to develop an ISS vehicle as Space X and NASA wants it to be a success!😊

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

    THE WOEING IN BOEING ! ! !

  • @andrewhillis9544
    @andrewhillis9544 Před 29 dny +1

    THAT AFT SKIRT ATTACHED TO THE STARLINER SERVICE MODULE LOOKS REALLY UGLY & UN-AERODYNAMIC & MAKES THE WHOLE VEHICLE LOOK VERY KERBAL & KLUDGED TOGETHER FROM JUNKYARD/SCRAPYARD PARTS ! ! !😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @Asterra2
    @Asterra2 Před 29 dny

    Not to mention the fact that Boeing's Starliner pricetag was already more than 60% more expensive than SpaceX's Crew Dragon. Not to mention the additional $287 million NASA handed over to Boeing before the Inspector General caught on and put a dead stop to _that_ grift. Let's run the numbers: If they send, say, 16 total astronauts up on Starliner (calling it three flights in total), each of those seats actually cost NASA $208 million, or 278% more than what SpaceX charges, or *ONE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN SPACEX'S 55 MILLION.*