1957 High school exchange - India, Lebanon, South Africa and UK. "American influence in my country"
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 11. 2020
- Gopinath Padmanabha of India, Susan Rennie of Union of South Africa, Ziyad Husami of Lebanon, Sara Chatt of United Kingdom
Fuck! Gopi is 17? I still can't my wrap my head around the fact that a teenager, 8 years younger than me is so well spoken and articulate in his thoughts at a time when there was no internet nor any means of complete exposure to the world. Wow. Just wow. I couldn't have been any more amazed!
Hmm, amazing and amazing, too wonderful ✨😍
I do concur with what you say but just a side note : People in those days used to pursued sociology as a their majoring subject - think about someone preparing for IAS, TV back then used to make people prepare for the things they would speak ( Not saying it is scripted or anything) and importantly there was pressure on the society to understand the issue and find solutions. When I say the above I by no means say he doesn't deserve the respect - he does but you don't have to feel intimidated!
Also people used to read books and because of less distraction, their thought were authentic and furthermore it was their own.
People actually talked to each other back then instead of living in a bubble and being forcibly spoonfed information
They lived in a time where they were not being constantly distracted, makes it much easier to learn
Shows the mindset of the young generations in the 1950s.
South African girl basically justified the segregation of blacks and white.
The British girl believed the India achieved the independence pretty easily and peacefully and the locals did not have to fight for it but it was simply handed over.
Obviously I'm looking at it from retrospectively after almost 70 years so it is easy for me to say so...
It amaze me how the narration of communist historian congress matches with britain.
I mean 70 years on they still credit gandhi and queen Elizabeth's parents alongside of many British officers for India's freedom...not much really has changed
@@karensmyth1215 They don't lmao
Don't force British history on us. The only one we credit our freedom to is the citizens, of India, who at that time fought for the freedom. Britishers never granted it, they just had no choice.
@@karensmyth1215 And no it wasn't handed over. Not for 200 years and a partitioning, which again resulted in mass bloodshed, loss of livelihood and over second decades of antagonistic relationship.
It was obvious Gopi was not into movies that's why he didn't said much.
India didn't open up until the late 80s so i guess that explains why.
@@r.m7921Cinemas and movies did exist even before we opened up.
Too much of a neeeeeeeeeerd
I swear CZcams is the best thing, next to time machine. In this video series, we get to see the closest of un-skewed perspectives the country has - without any prejudice, Since mentioned by the host that they were selected through rigourous competitive process.
i wish people from different countries still debated this way and about these topics
now we debate all this on social media -- one to one ! there is a huge difference now
The British girl saying that the Americans are “altering their way of life”. Oh the irony. As if the British didn’t do that to every country they colonized 😂
Lmaoo I know right spot on karnuna7
@@firstnameoptional-uw2xbHow exactly is she a colonizer??
The young Lebanese boy is so dignified and intelligent. It is hard to imagine what his country was like then before all the devastation of the civil war.
We can imagine: Lebanon was the Switzerland of the Middle East. Beirut it’s Capitol was the Paris of the Middle East.
Lebanese people are still whipsmart and amongst the best spoken in the Arab world. But go ahead and demonstrate prejudice in 2024. These kids didn’t have internet and exposure. What’s your excuse??
Long before Dubai was Dubai, Lebanon was Dubai. In the 1950s, '60s and '70s it was a regional center for banking and finance, an entrepot and a playground for wealthy Arabs and Westerners. When the oil billions started to flow into the Gulf after 1973, it was Beirut banks that managed much of the wealth.
We were crazy rich and prosperous. We showed what we were capable of. And we also proved what isr**l and the US are capable of destroying.
We know in Lebanese Lebanon was the beacon and had the highest living standards in the middle east. It was called Paris of rhe middle east. The richest country back then out of all its neighbours.
Quite the educated youth then. I’d like to see a panel discussion with modern students this sophisticated.
😂
did you hear the first part? They were selected in competitive exams across their country & of my country India, I think the kid (now age of my grandpa) was quite ahead of his time, But then thinking about the Fair process of competition he must have undergone, I think he’s apt to represent India
Never ever
The establishments wanted to first destroy USA, they are in the business of criminalizing white youths as we speak
since they already destroyed the entire globe
May the establishments drop dead with deadly diseases b4 harming the first nation that educated them ( USA)
They were educated at their nation’s most prestigious schools.
They do exist. Unfortunately the ones most visible are the greatest clowns.
As they say, everything starts at home. These young people are speaking based on what they were thought by their family or learned from the people around them to form their world view. I give them a lot of credit for having an opinion. They are so inteligente for their age, diplomatic, and respectful to each other which the world needs more today.
gopi is back
From Mizoram, India!
💁♀💁♀
From U.P. , India !
From canada India
From mother India ❤️
Debra Dun
I am very impressed with the inteliigence of the Lebanese teen. He is ahead of his time. Thinks like an adult.
The caliber of youth those days - intelligent, well-versed and confident and yet subdued with humility, courteousness and willingness to consider each other's viewpoint. I know this is a televised event and they are reacting to the 'stage' but still .. Thank you CZcams
In 1950s ppl did not have much access to American movies in india. Only few rich ppl. They were not gangster types so it’s not affected Indian ppl that time.
Look how these kids are in highschool and are barely full fledge adults. In my opinion we've babied so many generations that they can't even present themselves as mature as these kids are here. I think we should give more credit to people who are 16+ they can once again be seen as young adults coming to age.
Lebanese man was best 🙌 Love from 🇮🇳
Love from me an Indian 🇮🇳
Love from me an Indian 🇮🇳
Lebanon guy is confident and very cool
He makes me so proud to be Lebanese especially his other appearances. I loved him in all the other videos.
The Lebanon 🇱🇧 dude is too confident than that of our Indian 🇮🇳 guy, I think he have no knowledge about others around the world
Never seen such peaceful debate in my entire life. 😲😲😲
Gopi's topics of interest are food, culture, education ,technology and may be dating , if there is anyone left out ie. Not, "American Gangster!"
Are there any other videos he is in??
@@kanishkanegi5594 look through their videos many good debates. Gopi figures in quiet a few. One of them is here czcams.com/video/ZjIg60Si3i8/video.html
Also history!
I like the Lebanese guy!
He cool cool
He is calm and also outspoken
The South African girl is crushing on the Lebanon dude.
Each of them are impressive speakers and courteous listeners.
Wow, the South African justification for the subjugation of natives is still hard to listen to. You can see the defensiveness as soon as Sarah was questioned. So sad that it took another 43 years to get rid of Apartheid.
Not saying you're wrong, but things didn't exactly change for the better after apartheid stopped
@@mop2mop Agreed. They certainly went from one set of problems to another.
@@ThreePuttBogeys88 that's what happens when you upset the apple cart in the first place. You can't subjugate people for hundreds of years then expect everything to fall beautifully in place once you are forced to stop.
@@adosgullahcreolequeen2327 nothing changed, it was all performative and symbolic. The indigenous still don’t own any land
We are looking at this presently with the Israeli subjugation of the indigenous Palestinians
That British woman, good grief she’s like a future Mary Whitehouse.
Gopi seems lacking behind in the discussion. It seems back in days Indians were not much exposed to American magazines , films, music and culture, and that could be the reason he has not much to shared about it
In another discussion, he says that he wasn’t interested in movies so he didn’t watch them
when they are exposed to such things. So you may rephrase it. Indians were not much exposed to Western movies and that was the reason they failed to developed or lacked any interest in those movies. For example 300 years ago Indians were not exposed to the game of Cricket therefore Indians three hundred years ago had no interest in this game at all. But as soon they got exposed now you may see the level of Interest in Cricket game of the same Indians. So it all depends when and how much you exposed to some activity
Possibly the time of Gopi was growing up going to cinema what's considered a bad habit. It wasn't considered a good activity at all socially unacceptable
The British girl resents American influence in England because she thinks it will change their way of life.
Ironical
Media does affect the mentality of its consumers.
Violence, adultry, stealing, murder, cheating, smuggling.. people do 'learn' and get inspired from visual media.
Best example is, how today's social media culture is conditioning the new generation.
And it only gets worse
the indian dude is cute
He dint make any contributions ...very reserved.
@@mrp5764 I guess... you didn't watch him talking in other videos.
watch his videos on prejudices... those videos are also available in this channel
.
.
He might not interested in film and its industry.... I guess.. 🙄
@@mrp5764 damnn he totally badass in other debates you will not say after watching him there lol
This movie things was not commen till 70s India was closed so he didn't know about American movies it's obvious
South African girl says what happened in the USA with the emmitt till case would never happen in South Africa I’m at a complete loss for words. WOW. what bs
Brits are talking about violence in "movies"...ahhh...I see...
It takes strength to agree to disagree. And they did have it back then
The more i watching these clips the more i m hating my self coz they are so mature at the age of 17.
I enjoyed this one considering that this was the first episode of the 1957 series and in my opinion, it started off strong thanks to the panelists.
I would say that the way the arguments are framed showed how Sara was a tactician which made this one truly engaging. From her honesty of American influences which affects her understanding of British culture to jumping off topic to question Susan and how her countrymen treat people of color in the midst of apartheid, she kept things going and never lost her momentum. She would get retaliated once her tendency to find benefit on British imperialism became clear, which was seen at the end of this and then further explored in one of the prejudice episodes. Nonetheless she was the glue to this panel even with her disagreements; you could even say she was the main character of this one.
Ziyad also had a good showing here, where we get his perspectives on studying at an American-aligned school in Beirut and other matters of American influence while remaining a critical eye on it. From the get go we get his hilarity mixed with seriousness and this would become notable about him when approaching his future appearances. I also appreciated his “truth bombs” throughout the episode.
Susan was fine, but it was pretty clear that she was a little reserved here compared to her later appearances. She did have her moments of note - her example of “language” from comics was hilarious at least to me and her being aware of Emmett Till (he wasn’t named, but it was obvious when she summarized the trial on his case) was quite shocking knowing the context of her country - but it would take a while before she became more assured and confident in her presence. We did see a bane of hers with the defense of her country’s acts but they were mixed with times of brilliance.
Similarly, Gopi was not as involved with the discussion at hand but we do get to see his brilliance in short bursts. While he wasn’t very attuned to movies and some other things, he had a fair share of stuff about education and the matters of Britain in the context of the US’ role as a world superpower compared to Britain as it loses her colonies. He would soon unleash his wit and knowledge, but we do get glimpses of it. As much as it would be nice to hear more from him, he still did fine.
Overall, a pretty engaging show that is due to the panel on display and their varying thoughts.
I think Gopi (India) is a great listener and Sarah (UK) is quite knowledgeable and I'd like to see more videos of these two..
You should see his debate with sarah and others on prejudice, you will become a fan of him
@@aakashpayasi5051 just did...I think they both are quite good and knowledgeable. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@peeyushverma2284 I came here immediately after watching the prejudice debate lol
@@rini9325 that one was my first ever b&w debate video... And now i am addicted😂
The British girl is extremely sharp. Wise to psychological programming before anyone was talking about it.
she is so insecure about the global American influence
@@markmones7938 yes because Americans exposed the evils of apartheid
@@markmones7938 Is what someone commentator said about mainly Western Europe especially United Kingdom, many suffered from post-imperial anxiety, especially after World War ii (1939-1945). Prior to World War i (1914-1918) they were so sure of themselves with their overseas colonial empires.
5:53 Its just a movie. Guess people back then really took influence so much thing
Well gopi is silent surprisingly
Gopi is just a listener among them
Also India wasn't really exposed to American films back at that time. And watching movies and stuff were considered a bad influence at that time here in our country.
The South African girl was obviously brilliant, and one of a kind. She was always in debates in the '50s.
Recently got to know that the lebanese guy Ziyad Husami passed away on jan 28 2022.
Born in Beirut, Lebanon, Ziyad first traveled to the U.S. during high school, after being selected as a delegate for the New York Herald Tribune World Youth Forum. Ziyad later returned to the U.S. to study at the University of Pennsylvania, and went on to earn his Ph.D. from Princeton University. He was a resident of the Pennington, NJ area for 40 years. Mr. Husami is survived by his wife Carol Husami; his children, Jackie Kazior (Steve) and Alyson Baverstock (Dan); and his grandchildren, Paige, Michael, Charlie, and Ella.
Am I the only one who thinks Sarah likes gopi?
I WONDER IF THEY HAD ANYONE REPRISENTING THE CARIBBEAN
I really don't think they were trying to talk to people who are the descendants of chattel slavery. I think they purposefully left out that perspective. Not necessarily out of malice or disinterest but being a descendant of that form of slavery would definitely have an impact on your views and way of thinking and they probably were trying to avoid having the debates pulled in that direction. I mean even the Brazilian was represented by a woman who was not a descendant of slaves. She mentions that her parents were actually Swiss.
@@adosgullahcreolequeen2327 they were selected based on them winning a scholastic competition beforehand… it’s literally a foreign exchange student program; had absolutely NOTHING to do with slavery or whether or not they were descendants of it
Hmm
12:19 did she just nudge him back to the point?
2:50-2:54 did involved the Kray twins as well?.
Seems like Grandfather of present EAM 🔥🔥
Ok I’m crushing on the Lebanese guy
4.28 These people. I am sure she is talking about blacks and browns😆
“Primitive types” lol
All the students in South Africa had to participate in this competition to represent their country in this forum, and this girl was the one who won. Sorry to say, but she is not particularly intelligent and isn't a great debater either. I think a lot of nepotism was involved to get her onto this exchange program. Her parents must've had some influence. A bit like how the boy representing Jordan was the son of the mayor of Jerusalem, and the Pakistani girl was the daughter of the Pakistani ambassador to the USA - neither of those kids were intelligent either, so it's obvious their fathers position is what got them onto this exchange program.
Probably Sara Chatt was a quite reactionary during the counter culture period (1965-1969).
The British girl is really sharp and know how to debate, She had facts.
My friend said that the lebanon guy looks like me 🙂
American movie's are still creating these prejudices.
Like the Lebanese guy said, they are just films!!! There's always good and bad.
@@padmanabhanbharadwaj4213 they get to decide the narrative by changing music and light angles etc. They have a lot of influence on common man.
@@padmanabhanbharadwaj4213 Like the girl said not if the majority of people take it seriously.
An example they portray India as a big slum but in reality, we do have slums but 95 percent of the area is a city, not slums. But if u portray the slum image of India in all moves. most people will take it seriously and think we are all just slums. We do have slums but I disagree with u
Can't believe a young at this time is hating on the Rolling Stones.
We are becoming dumberndumber save our souls teach our Brian from being washed study learn teach yourselves seek the truth
gopi is looked like amir khan a little bit
Anyone else noticed the look on Ziyad's face when Susan said that most black families force their children to leave school early? He knows she's spewing nonsense lol
everyone are praising this indian coz all are indians watching this video and they think indians are the best lollllllllllllllllllllll
you've misundertood the word "Praising"
And if they are praising then, its their choice
And you what's funny.. you're indian yourself too . you're just too much filled with you're own negativity...lollllll
@@sadhvika1587 ok i am crying
Dude gopi was badass in other debates discussion that's why evryone wants to watch him more but sadly in 1950-80s India was totally closed Country almost here no American movie media influenced so it's obvious Gopi didn't have much to say here but he's so overpowered you should watch him talking 😁
colonization was not a bad thing. look at colonized countries compared to uncolonized countries. america is colonized and EVERYONE wants to come here!