1959 High school exchange students - Ethiopia, Ghana, South Africa, Ceylon: Future of Africa
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The future of Africa, discussed by representatives from Ghana, Ethiopia, Ceylon and the Union of South Africa, raises questions such as: Why is foreign aid necessary? Where does it come from? How is it best administered? What can the smaller nations do to help one another? Does aid imply dependence? What are the prospects for African independence? What are prerequisites to independence? What effects does education have on a nation as a whole, and on the individuals in the nation who are more highly educated than the rest?
The Ghanaians showed the highest global aptitude in these conversations...by far. Every Ghanaian that was on the show displayed timeless knowledge of humanity.
True. The Nigerian brotha from the 1957 debate was sharp too.
@@candygirl657Yes! Agreed. Every Ghanaian on the show seemed to be 20 years older than their age. AMAZING. My mecca to Ghana🇬🇭 (or at least the Ivory coast) was solidified after hearing these children
Oh yeah, I re-watched it. That was the episode with a teenage Boniface Offokaja. Absolute murder! No one in the studio had the knowledge of the ocean of information, facts & critical thoughts that he flooded them with. It was simply astonishing✊🏿
@@ml_kayAli Thats a fact. He was well informed and stood for the humanity of all Africans and did it confidently.
It is not a competition mate..
I hope there will be more, I have not enjoyed CZcams as much as I have since finding these videos!
I absolutely love these videos.
I totally agree
Me too I am obsessed
Yes. Just wonderful.
These videos are so great. I agree, I’ve been glued to CZcams since finding these. Amazing content, a blast back in time
Yes the Ethiopian girl was spot on please my fellow Africans lets educate our people ,so that we don’t import workers nor goods from the outside let’s build our countries,let’s plant in order to feed our people , let’s build our industries, if the west did it , Asians did it so can we , we are able don’t let this negative voice of the oppressor to continue to demean our capabilities .
We are capable to build even better societies than the west ,rise up Africa and take your rightful place , there is a reason why lots of wealth was entrusted into our continent .
Why don’t you want to import workers into your country?
No country can grow financially without foreign import and export
@@andylorentz3271 but they can minimize the dependence,
@@loucadoida3327 why would you want to go and do that ?
@@jindalee4471 You have to export more than you import or your economy will not grow.
This Ghanaian was calmer than Alfred Bannerman but they both got great intellectual abilities.
Nii well done 🇬🇭 to the world.
Who was that boy?
I would have liked to hear a black south African , from those times in such debates
Almost impossible. Apartheid is evil. If you even met an average black South African before 2000 you will understand what I mean. It was very bad.
The nationalist government deliberately sent a European South African, they wouldn't have sent an African in those days.
They weren't even allowed to travel let alone take part in debates. Talk about white colonizers oppressing Indigenious S. Africans and having the nerve, the audacity to show up in such debates and showcase their blatant racist, indoctrinated, distorted views.
Imagine a young Biko here!
South Africans in those days were more peaceful than now.The best known
You’ll know a good debater or communicator in their reply. 5:15 the Ghanaian tried to mock the Ethiopian nation; 5:18 the Ethiopian girl answered calmly with such elegance. BEAUTIFUL!
boo 😒 looser 😂, you never see the good in people, everyone on here is about positive information you’re only worried about who’s mocking who, it’s a fucking debate damn it!!!!!
@@timothytieku809 In fairness he mocked Ethiopia but remember these were kids. He spoke from the heart and kudos to the Ethiopian girl for responding with maturity and class.
that is why Debate is called Debate . Some people translate debate x fight . All the debaters are very well prepared.
A bit of elegant provocation is Ok as long as there is no disrespected .
I love debating because my father , a great defense lawyer was highly trained academically as a debater and taught us how to debate.
The Hon. Haile Selassie did a lot to advance and open up Ethiopia.
This Ethiopian student was the most pro -Africa and most broad minded Ethiopian I have seen in this series.
He was a brilliant diplomatic politician. However, the damage hes done to the country is evident in today's Ethiopia.
@@ellenintesfay5974 The Negus put ET on a trajectory of modernization and industrialization but needed to move at pace because the people minds change very slowly from feudalism and old ways. HIM built schools and universities that He oversaw himself, and was an original organizer of the OAU along with other pan African leaders of the day, striving for a one Africa model. He educated many of the nobles children oversees and from his own pocket, so that they could return, educated to ET and help to build the country. It was these same ones, who organized the coup to remove him because they felt as though he was moving too slow, and through greed, power and control with inside no outside backing. This is the reason ET has all the problems it has now, because you have just been used and manipulated continuously by corrupt leaders and foreign agendas and influence. Selassie fought to maintain independence of the country for his people, ET being the only county not colonized by foreign powers, and even when Italy came in and occupied, within 5 years he liberated the county. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, and you still trash talking the King. Ungrateful. Learn your history, and not from those that lie to cover their shame. The Land Where Our God Loves to BE?? Yes much progress ET was on when HIM introduced ET to the world. The Bible says, “A prophet is not loved in his own country”. Shame on you.
@@bakiaye6508 When Italy came the 2nd time, Hailiselaise had fled to the UK with his family and his medical team to save his life.
So he did not desrve to come back to power after Italy was removed from the country with the help of the UK.
Thank you. All Ethiopians are not like Yilma, the stupid despicable guy in one of these series
@@wediofla3230 ወሬ አለብህ ባክህ ቱልቱላ አይጥ ስታይ የምትፈረጥጥ ሰውዬ አሁን ቁጭ ብለህ እሳቸውን ትተቻለህ (ጉፋያ)
I find these discussions fascinating. The youths of this era were actually very astute. Of course, these particular students are exceptional, you can see that
I think Ceylon was an poster child for Western aid. The girl from SA was on point about the underlined agendas of foreign powers investing in counties like the Congo. They were probably hating on her when she got back home,
Yes, the Ghanaian has made a point I am proud of. He's indicated that ' Africa is the continent of tomorrow' . This boy said this in 1958. And it is gradually coming to fruition. Is he a prophet?
The most impressive thing is that he's a stammerer who managed to articulate his points smoothly throughout. The only problem is that his views (by default derived from Eurocentric education) are Eurocentric
Where is the improvement we are still borrowing money and stilling money saving it to the white man bank it makes when you go Ghana very dirty no development even the 1950s of Ghana is more beautiful and green country than today.
He was great but Africa being the future was clear for a long time
@@alexanderquincy3259 "nkwasiasem kwa"
@@agoogo5026 Speak English please
This kind of honesty has all but disappeared from modern debate.
The only Ethiopian that made sense and was respectable was her.
Can't agree less. The rest simply plonker s
@@Anjulo959 😡
You're right! Charles!
Exactly!
The British convinced them and most of the world that they were not colonized. The British to this day still creates the curriculum for all state schools and colleges. They even pay the teachers and professors salaries. Ethiopian Airlines belongs to the UK. Look it up for yourself.
I find the Ethiopian girl really attractive. Beautiful and intelligent. Her voice too..
I can see why some nomadic neighbours feel agitated by the sense of independence and pride the Ethiopian girl has shown‼ tough, but she was ahead of her time‼
Baryas don't value dignity and pride
Well what can I can!!!! these videos are very educational,well done to the producers, your thought of sharing it with the world of today, had done a lot of miracles.The educational part alone is very substantial. kudos to the creator and all the personnel.I was attracted to this site by chance, and had loved it each minute.I had dwelled here ever since.What a home!!!?!??The sad part of the whole story is, why the "prayer" of that period had not changed postures of our fellow human entities of today, to cherish each other or be one's guardian.
The South African girl's statement was incorrect, Europeans kept their colonies disconnected from each other as they were only concerned with extracting resources and nothing else.
Yes. Now black South Africans have volatile relations with Africans from the continent. It was purely by design. It is tribalism with a passport, divide and rule.
And the solution is to change these narratives if we want to make progress
@@mrsoshadabaadman lol maybe they should let China in then... I know China definetely have agenda on their own, atleast they want you to be richer so you can buy their chinese products lol
@@sheilashineleofany822 Yeah. It's like Plata or Plomo. The bribe or the bullet.
the world is waking up and hopefully, they will change start seeing it and change the narrative of the hypocrisy of the west.
Very interesting and motivational when you see the youth being so much in contact with all social ,political and economical factors. The problems and conversations they had then are still very much relevant today.
This is the first time the Union of South Africa's High School student has been moderately calm, not as cocky and even had a healthy obsession and good knowledge about Nigerian traditions and affairs.
Her dropping of the words "Superior" severally, I'm sure put the other students off, because it was as a result of denying willing black South Africans from acquiring that same Education, skills & experience that lead to the White South Africans,, having the upper hand.
I agree with you
"We don't care where the aid comes as long as it comes". the vulnerability of having such a mindset
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Diego Costa. Sadly, with that "aid at all costs" mindset, now China owns valuable chunks of that country. SMH.
Sri Lanka now
Look at sri lanka now
I'm a Nigerian, Respect to the Ghanaian.
Idk how I found these debates but its pretty dope deff watching more
THE ONLY ETHIOPIAN SMART STUDENT WHO KNOWS THAT SHE REPRESENTED ALL ETHIOPIANS, NOT HER TRIBE OR CLASS/CASTE... SHE FULLY REPRESENTED ETHIOPIA NOT ETHIOPIAN JEWS,AMHARAS OR OTHER TRIBES I SALUTE HER
ኢትዮጵያውያን ብሄርን አልወከሉም እስካሁን
መልከኛ ናት በዛ ላይ😋
@@munayirdawzewdie3114 I am fascinated by your writing
What language writing is it
It is Called Amharic (አማርኛ ) an Ethiopian official Language it has its Alpahet like ሀለሐመሠረሰሸቀበቨተቸየነኘአከኸወዘዠደጀገጠጨጰጸፈ
You made my day 😆😆😆
Videos like this is informative and what we need right now.
The kids back then seem more sophisticated
Exactly, I think we spoil, baby and shelter our children too much. Me included.
They believed in values
@@verusmember997 The current students dont even know who their president is 😂😂
@@verusmember997 Good point but a lot more stupid now.
In a time when a generation culturally were so pleasantly educated that even in a moment of anger, they would spend more time articulating why they were so annoyed than engaging in any form violence! Smooth shit right here...
I have learnt a lot from this debate (Together we can make the world a better to live)..the 1959 debate showcase that children are actually the future leaders when giving the right education with practical knowledge to function. I like the open discussion involving different class of people.
It’s funny how these young people sit down and face the facts, get to know what they are dealing with and how to deal with, it intrigues me that they foretold the after stories of independence and democracy
I liked the Ghanaian he was such a gentleman and very eloquent. I wish the south African girl raised awareness of the plight of Black south Africans and the evils of apartheid
The plight they are living now. Today SA is hell on Earth.
A well paid and respected professional teacher will always bring out the best in pupils as exhibited in these debates.
The influx of technology is what will be the nail in the coffin, as far as intelect of future generations is concerned.The Google Generation
Ceylon is Sri Lanka btw
They need to define AID as it comes with strings attached and often with hidden agendas to get resources or undermine economies
But yes, what do you expect?
@@mauriceschaeffer5070 I am not surprised with the European mindset as history has shown they have never had good intentions for African.
@@gavinjohnson3065 Gavin you are right.
I think Rita(?), the S. African, makes that point, too, when she mentions the difference between a Ghanaian helping a Nigerian vs Belgium investing in an African country. She uses the word, subversive.
I agree, it's important to bring this into the conversation; not for it to be overlooked. Of course it would deepen the conversation, and I'm sure they'd run out of time. That good point aside, I find it impressive though that these exceptional students have been taught the art of civil debate fairly well.
Thanks for these great videos .
would love to see a 2020 perspective
I would love that
Reason for the open border policy with other African countries, unfortunately too many arrived in a very short time, hence the backlash and xenophobia, poor people see their lives being harder competition for resources with many immigrants.
@@zolanidingaan2511 The details of that fact are lost to most people. It's like Americans fearing Mexican, Guatemalan and other South American immigrants moving into America in mass. But the country of South Africa is 1000 less economically sound. It's legitimately inexcusable but to ignore why the sentiment exist is short sighted and foolish.
That would be fantastic!!
Same
This were mature life changing debates. Far better than the current political debates on televisions aimed at dividing people rather than improving the society.
This should be rekindled to the current young generation which is losing the campass.
I agree with you. These political discussions are meant to divide not unite. I am also wondering why this is not being done NOW, because there are many intelligent young children today but all they need is a proper education and they aren't getting it.
If being civil was a person☺.these young minds are exceptional.today's political era should borrow a leaf
The Europeans were focusing on the country resources.
False. Europeans spent more in African countries than what they received from them.
Keep posting more videos please, I love watching these debates.
Oh yes, Ethiopia is definitely right on target. Asking for aide means you owe them later in the future and she keeps getting cut off.
Ghana saw the political change and it is changing as of now, western culture went stagnant and now Africa is rising and Asia.
South Africa talks too much, I wish she let others talk lol
As someone with alot of white South African mates I have met over the last 3-4 years this is fascinating to see as I always wondered what the mindset was like in times like this.
It is incredible to me how well informed these international students are individually and how much they seem to be enlightening one another. An impressive cross-cultural group with quite well-developed perspectives on their countries.
Imagine how much different these typse of forums would look like today in 2021 compared to way back in them days !
Theyd look the same. These are meant to be exceptional students.
@@thezu9250
I doubt they would look the very same becauae of all the issues and agendas here in america and throughout the world !
Anyone knows the name of the Ethiopian girl and if she is still alive? She was so cute and seems to have been more aware of the country’s issues than some of us today.
@@MentalHealthTreatment thanks
@@dubisatalkiye7712 more likely not alive if this is 59 that 61 yrs ago plus her age on top of that if she is 20 here then 80 now
ብዙአየሁ አጎናፍር
Her name is Dr. Bizuayehu Agonafir. You can google her name and learn her current situation ... she is still alive, 78 years old!
@@dayner989 The Ethiopian girl is now 78 and she is serving as a Cardiologist in California, USA
I'm Ghanaian and I think Ethiopian ladies have been beautiful from day one
of course, Ghanaian women are beautiful too
Thanks
The moderator don't want give chance to the country who speak confidently about independence, freedom and self determination. That is why the moderator didn't want to give much opportunity to speak the brilliant and beautiful Ethiopian student.
Interesting to know that Ghana was giving financial aids to other African countries. But now we are receiving every kind of aids from all over the world. What went wrong along the way Ghana?
Unfortunately that was part of the reason the people at home became disenchanted with Nkrumah at some point. It created an environment to justify his overthrow
@@Atlas24gh exactly
Ask again oooo
So what happened to this types of debate, this is fantastic.
Am in love with the ethiopian beautiful and smart
I am ደህና ነህ ክክክክ
Sure Ethiopian women is beautiful from Africa
I see a pattern here, Ghana seems to be in almost all the videos
I don't think so, but why not if not?
exactly my thoughts, shows how intelligent they are
And Nigerians too
@@worldformatics Always have been. Ghana's economy is extremely impressive in Africa's context.
Ghanaians are very broad minded, very warm, intelligent and welcoming.All Ghanaians I have met are this...
This is cool. There was an honest beginning at the very beginning. But, suddenly things changed badly.
Let's try and believe one thing as Africans, we have learned that our differences will take us no where.
For me the program was made to materialise Division Amongst Africans. We Are One.
When the South African girl coughed, my brain immediately went to face mask and covid
😂😂😂
lol hahahahaahahaha
LMAO 😂
I knoooooow... Lol
🤣🤣
Aid is the biggest problem for present & future generations.
25:12 United African Republic. This discussion has been going on forever.
only if all just change and see that the narrative they were given was a lie from the west
But my question is why are these only seen now ! Why were they hidden when CZcams is 16years old...
The shire girl was right about Belgium’s malicious intent on donating to the Congo, 10 years later they assassinated Congo’s first prime minister
Heres the answer to the question according to me. Aid is political unless it comes from a country with similar problem. The rich and powerful countries doesnt send aid to help the countries, they do it to gain influence and exploit the natural resources.
Time of truth let's learn.
Where are they today would be nice to see
Does anyone know,where these young men ended in life,please share us...
I tried to google thier name... No result so far. Will continue lookin for thier info though ✅️
Black south Africans should learn something from all these old videos. Their brothers from Ghana, Nigeria Ethiopia, Senegal etc. Help them to gain control over their land but now, they turn around against those who help them. Shame.
So true
Its a shame but it is not South Africans, not even a manjority...white media is trying to pin blacks against each other.
Yes by talking a lot and never wanted set foot in SA. South Africans stayed in their country and faced their enemy daily. They never ran away from their problems
@@tebogopooe7618 South Afrika especially South Afrikaan Airlines never allowed provided for blacks to fly with them..Even B.O.A.C had to get proper permission if a black person was to fly to S.A and most times it was denied and hence major airlines were afraid to carry black passengers to S.A
@@blackroute1527 yes devil works in mistress way just as his counterpart. Most people still didn't understand how this people work.
CEYLON.....Which country was that and never heard of it and even now?
Sri Lanka
Thanks for the info never new it was sri Lanka
3:12 "African countries solving African problems" till now it's the same narrative; and still there's alot to do😅😅
So much history
As young as the Ghanaians is at that time he was able to see africa becoming a united nation's was virtually impossible, and it seems to me like a prophecy because is clear today that unity btn African nations is fundamental to our development and that's what we're lacking as Africans. ECOWAS for example is not even attractive because to me they have no positive effect on the member countries, all they do is to meet, greet and drink coffee☕, done. Big respect to the Ghanaian cus whatever he said is what's manifesting today.
Sri Lanka, formerly known as Ceylon, and officially the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, is an island country in South Asia. It lies in the Indian Ocean, southwest of the Bay of Bengal, and southeast of the Arabian Sea; it is separated from the Indian subcontinent by the Gulf of Mannar and the Palk Strait. Wikipedia
oh shit this was a regular show damn nice
Ceylon is now Sri Lanka 🇱🇰
Thank you
8:15 She's the first S. African I've heard in this series, or even Westerner/White person, to actually make counterpoints against colonialism.
Cool cool
22:10 it did happen to Africa. Rather ominously at that!
These young men and girls were ,I guess , in their early twenties and yet they are very enlighted to talk about wider issues. I very much doubt if Bezuayehu has got much of her parallels in today's Ethiopia.
These are teenage high school students!! I had an argument with someone under another video that this is a rare find these days for younger people to interact and articulate like this. But according to the person I know the wrong teenagers🙄🙄. That persons circle is either way too small or they are in denial.
@@gemjewelle2687 articulate teenagers do exist today, if they are also informed, is a different story.
@@fitawrarifitness6842 of course some exist and especially outside of the US where teens may have to grow up faster than here or have different expectations. But when you watch old footage you notice the difference. Even rappers in the 90s could articulate themselves well in interviews. Compare that to today's pop stars or entertainment people in their 20s or 30s even.
@@gemjewelle2687 that's due to the dumbing down of society, its clearly an agenda. I consider myself an articulate teenager and I'm pretty sure there are a lot, it's just that due to a change in times intelligence is not as appreciated as it used to be so you won't find a lot of videos today of young people expressing their thoughts about current issues in the same way
Why are the females always referred to as girls, yet you call the guys young men tiu dont refer to them as boys.
Proud amhara 🤣 I can’t believe people are already getting mad at the Ethiopian girl for praising her Country
She praised her country but you praised your tribe! Proud Ethiopian or proud amhara? That shows our divided you are within and I don't respect Africans like you.
amharas clearly have a superiority complex over other Ethiopians, this idea didn't grow from nothing
@@NoRockinMansLand True!
@Car Top I think you are one of the most bad spirited person i have seen. I am from the Amhara tribe born in Addis Ababa but I never consider my self above others that the only thing that make me proud is that i am Ethiopian. i know it is wrong to put myself in a situation as you put yourself mentioning my tribe but i mentioned it to you b/c being Amhara is ntg i am proud to be African Ethiopian no matter what i love all tribes no one is above than the other.
@@NoRockinMansLand morons doesn’t represent a group one way or another! Unfortunately, Morons are everywhere! Most of on social media we don’t know who’s who! There’re so many trolls. This moromsogjt mot evem Amhara or Ethiopian
Moderator: what do you know about Ethiopia"
Ghanaian: "Well Ethiopia......[laughing] it has been an independent country for a long time, but I wonder what it has achieved [laughing]"
well they managed to avoid being treated like animals....
By whites, but your own ruling people treated the people like dogs. Is that better or worse ?
@@michael-cv9wd there is no ruling people you idiot, it is a ruling class...
@@heny3390 thanks for answering a question no one asked you, now can you answer the actual quetion? mumu
Exactly!!....unthinkable or profound for some Africans that The only undefeated black PEOPLE belong to Africa continent.
It was unfortunate to see the Ghanaian not understand the value of retaining sovereignty and independence, something his people lost and had to fight to regain. Something as basic as retaining your own written word is an achievement let alone avoiding being subjected by Europeans on your own soil.
Wow these students of the 1950s talk like the current time. No need the hear the news!
We are still in the battel field
I like the lady from South Africa. She is willing to work with others to redeem the situation.
Redeem the situation by going back to Europe simple,we don't need them they need us.Facts
She’s simply playing polite
She was awful in other videos. Pure propaganda
WTF.... she is so ....
@@kwadwoamponsah call it face saving and you wouldn't be wrong
It seems like the South African representative crammed her speech.
What do you expect from a puppet?
The most high
At 22:03. Do u think African countries will collapse into dictatorships? If only she knew...
Where are all these people now, i wonder if they are alive
Wow.These students were bright compared to Current Clueless kids
When will black south Africans represent them in such delegate.
The aid that they thought was coming from Israel, was coming from the US. Where has Israel been getting almost ALL of its aid from once it’s inception? The United States.
May I know the name of the Ghanaian
From another video, I discovered his name is nii tetteh churu quou.
Is he alive?
@@valourchannel926 I don’t know?
czcams.com/video/m54zVrOX79Q/video.html
This is a link to another video. If you scroll down the comments. Someone gives more information.
Nii
@@valourchannel926 Dr. Nii Tetteh Quao
Omg first? Weird, first time
Still first bro 🥴
Weird... africa taught the world how to farm and today were asking the world how to farm
CEYLON....?Which country was that and even now I've never heard of that?
Currently Sri-Lanka. Ceylon was the former name.
@@suntzu2204 oh okay that's very beautiful
Ceylon is now called Sri Lanka
Antarctica
Heard of Google?
To the matter of fact Ethiopia was the center of the world trade economy and used to possess most part of the Red Sea.
Only the orthodox religion followers who lived in the mountainous area of the country had made themselves landlocked to the outside world.
When Eritrea was still part of Ethiopia?
@@iamhibs Eritrea become independent 30/40 years ago
Rip TPLF
The south afrikaan girl seems to have tempered her views from the earlier video, but she is still on the wrong side of history.
24:07 this guy knew coup was a possibility even though it had never happened 😢
When the white girl clicked, it threw me off guard.
UAR, United African Republic
Go unite with north africans
What's the name of the Ghanaian, please?
Alfred Barnaman
@@sparkcoletv1706 Begging your pardon but I don't think so. Bannerman was on in a different year
Nii Tetteh
@@OdewaTV Thanks
@@KweJoBoaTen Dr. Nii Tetteh Quao. Now a retired doctor in Canada.
It's a pity that a bulk and a majority of South Africans were never represented namely Africans, the indigenous people of this country . She calls us 'tribes', what were they? Civilization did not originate in Europe.
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The boy frim Ghana refered to Chiefs of tribes
Europeans had tribes
When they went to Africa and saw similar groups organised in a similar way they called them trubes as were people in Europe
Then that term was used when it was less appropriate every group was refered to as a tribe
No, this problem is not based on 1959 because ghana in 1959 was giving money to the world. This is not true, Ghana was good in 1959.
What is it with superiority with us? How long are we gonna be this ignorant?
The South African girl raises very strong points
So sad to watch this 1958 video about african cooperation in 2022 knowing the troubles that came with borders and genocidal wars on the following decades.
Ceylon .. omg how old is this
Ps:i know how old it is it's just a phrase
Hahahahha
What is it about es Ghanaians and the phrase "Very very"? Loool
Lol 😆 probably from the bible. I remember a verse that says "verily verily I say unto you". Thats prolly where it come from