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212 PREDATOR POPS AND WONT START DIAGNOSIS
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2019
- In this one i make a new series called QUICK TIPS. i show you what i do when a 212 predator (harbor freight engine) pops and wont start. don't forget to like and subscribe #minibike #gokart
Do what i do here at your own risk this video is for entertainment purposes only....
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Trying to get to 1000 subscribers so if your not already do me a solid and hit subscribe. Thanks in advance👍
Any advice on my comment?
I think you fixed my engine
@@nwee5758 that's great
My god maybe a 4yrs ago video but this man has helped me more then anyone else just gets straight to the point 🙏🏽
Eli I'm glad I helped you in some way. If you read the comments on this video its all over the place. Just to be clear my engine didn't have anything wrong with it, but this video shows all the things I have ran into with my 212 predators over the years. Thanks for watching 😎👍
Everything he did OFF CAMERA is what I really wanted to watch. Maybe a new video with ALL the procedural steps included. Film the actual disassembly of the various components.
Definitely doing that in the future. Thanks for watching 👍😎
Have you made the video yet@@WesleySnyder
THIS IS MY FIRST VIDEO TO GET 1000 VIEWS. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERY ONE WHO HAS CLICKED ON THIS VIDEO.
omg 2000 views
Wesley Snyder Love the sound effects!! Had me dying when you finally got it started!😂😂
@@YonkersLV thanks Yonkers. I try to be funny when I can.
@@deucedeuce4223 thanks, this video is by far my most popular video.
Up to 30k
Great work buddy I’ve had that happen to a couple of my engines great way of showing what’s going on
Right on adam thanks. This is my most viewed video.
VERY entertaining man, you made me laugh 🤣.. and informative at the same time. Keep up the good work
thanks man. i needed that right now.
Thank you now I get to work on this with my 6 year old son I love the cut. Cut part
Im glad to be entertaining and also funny.... Thanks for watching 😎👍
I’m been looking for a good explanation ty
Glad i could help. Thanks for watching 😎👍
I left mine out in a heavy rain. I tried starting fluid in the carb and nothing. Then I was gonna spray some in the spark plug area, but noticed fluid (gas, water, both) inside. So I cranked it over till the fluid was out, put the plug back in and it started right up.
i've done that same thing a few times.that was the right thing to do. thanks for watching
Great video got me on the fake engine noise. 😂😂
That's actually one of my cars I recorded for that sound. Thanks for watching 👍😎
My 212 hemi has maybe 3 hours total on it. It ran fine until I cut it off one day, and 30 minutes later backfired one time and never started again. The plug wire fires, but that's about as far as I've gotten so far.
My last new hemi had a bunch of junk in the carb. Its worth a look. Thanks for watching 👍😎
I'm having same problem on a pretty new engine. I've done everything you showed here. When I try to "electric start" it with an impact, it spins few times then gets stuck or stops. Is that a bad compression release?
try a none impact drill first (a big one too) impacts do funny stuff
@@WesleySnyder ok will do. Valves are adjusted correctly, magneto gapped correctly, carb cleaned twice and flywheel key is good. I can tell by looking at the exhaust rocker arm that the compression release is working. Still....get afterfires and rope kickback?? Any other ideas cuz I'm out of them.
I do get orange spark, seems kinda weak too. Shouldn't it be blue/white? Any more help I'd be grateful.
I'm in the same boat I have done everything 2or 3 times thing still want fire
I was thinking maybe there's not enough compression to run...
@@WesleySnyder gotcha I think your rite I'm go adjust the valves to open up a bit more cam card said .001 for both because when it gets hot they will grow
So what exactly was the problem?
I have a new predator 212 and when I installed it on my go kart and attached the throttle cable it won’t turn on. I tested it before I did the throttle cable and it was running perfectly
It's hard to say you could have a faulty low oil sensor try unplugging the yellow wire and see if it starts
I rebuilt a Predator 212, removed governor, oil pressure sensor, added a 28mm Mikuni, 120 jet, engine wont pull start but it will drill start and run.
Man I'm not sure I would start with checking the compression I guess and then maybe check the flywheel key to see if it moved a little bit good luck
I have one that when you crank it and press the gas it works but if you let off the gas it turns off?
Ok under the plastic idle screw there is another plastic thing that you can pry out with a screwdriver, this is the idle circuit. Clean the small holes out with a piece of wire brush bristles. Should help with that. Thanks for watching 👍😎
Good video man. Hey i got a baja warrior for my boy the card has a drain bolt but you cant remove the bowl for some reason. I cleaned the carb best i could but there what looks like oil mixed with gas coming out the exhaust any idea?
Could be the carb running rich. A new carb is like 15 dollars on Ebay if it give you trouble
Id like to see what happens if the compression release is removed.
Good job man, that cart ia insane
Cooooooool maaaaaaaaan You got er runnin super.... in reverse though😱😱😱😱😱...just kidding thanks for the info on the plastic cap on the carb I'll pop mine and hopefully it will help mine won't idle without the choke on halfway...I've blown all the extremely tiny small passages in the venturi....any suggestions
Dude I have same engine and its the choke that was not on the proper side if he would put the choke back it would of turn on !!
Lol thanks for the pro tip
I bought a brand new predator that wont start. Beginning to end: Put oil and gas, had it started, let it idle 30 minutes, it died everytime it throttled, now wont start.
You have a 30-day warranty on that thing you might want to return it if not maybe me and you can figure this out
@@WesleySnyder I'm gonna give it another look tomorrow before I have it replaced. I do smell gas so I'm gonna try to adjust the carb......once I figure out how.
@@AdequateName. The last one I bought there was a bunch of crap in the carburetor and I ended up just cleaning it out and it ran just fine afterwards
@@WesleySnyder carb jets had some sort of debris, running fine now.
@@AdequateName. That is awesome 😎👍
I know this video has a weird outcome. Sometimes taking things apart and putting it back together fixes the problem
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Hey I really really really need help I am stuck I have a 459cc predator engine
I Checked the spark plug good spark
I have strong compression new crank case gasket all timings lined up new oil filled new carb but when I turn it on it spins and smoke comes out of the exhaust and some out the air filter with little gas also cam is new and the intake rods is in place but never turns on it does the same pop as yours does???? Please help I’m giving up I did everything am I missing something ??
I would see if it starts with starting fluid that would be a carburetor issue then maybe check valve lash and valve train to see if there might be a push rod issue then make sure the flywheel key is now sheered. Good luck 🤞
That's good information and very helpful for sure, thank you.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Hey! What can the problem be I have a 212cc, and I was going really fast and I just shuts off do you what the problem could be
Im thinking its not getting enough fuel in the carburetor to keep up, like the fuel line is kinked or plugged. But without more info i dont really know
@@WesleySnyder ok thank you it’s fixed now!
@@imagine4873 thats great. I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching 😎👍
You awesome thank you brother you got my Honda go Moyer fixed
You are welcome...glad I could help
I have a problem when i start it up, smoke starts coming out. Then i turned it off, turned it back on and once i pulled the string starter then a loud pop came out. Do you know what that is?
i got just enough info to help i think. it sounds like the carb is the issue try cleaning it real good. i think its flooding maybe. try that and get back with me
@@WesleySnyder ok thanks for the fast reply👍🏽
@@2zz866 ya man no problem
I have a 196 cc Coleman go cart and it has spark, full gas tank, clean carb, and it stopped running today, I turned it on this morning and it was idling nicely then it just turned off and didn’t wanna turn in again……….
🤔Sounds like maybe some water in the gas. Has it been rained on. Drain the float bowl into a cup and check. 😎👍
Question I got a predator generator 6500 it dropped a ex value keeper was ringed out so I put new keeper and put it all back together and it backfiring and popping lil shot of gas coming bout the carburetor when I pull start it
Any ideas u just took it all apart clean it up and put it back together and boom it worked or was there more to it the video shows
Did you check the flywheel key could be sheared. If that doesn't work try to start it without the muffler on some times they get plugged. Thanks for watching 👍😎
I don’t know what to do to fix my predator because you did everything off camera.
This is an old video, I and others have more videos here on CZcams. I hope you figure out.
My engine doesnt want to start because i flooded the filter area with gas
The air filter? Might just give it time to air out. Maybe clean the carb while you wait so it doesn't flood anymore. 😎👍
I recently bought a predator and I put a stage 1 performance kit on and had it running for 3 days but now it won’t run at all and I tried everything in the video any idea what the problem is
If you put a different main jet in maybe it's to big or to small.
Vapor lock?
@@SimpleGr33n that does make sense
Thanks for the help 👍.
Glad to help Drake Liu. Thank you for watching and commenting
@@shushunliu6572 I would like to think they do ship to canada. You might not get the same deal because of shipping cost. Worst case you could have a guy in us buy and ship to you
Was it just a pop or a misfire out the exhaust? Mine is misfiring and smoking a little out the exhaust
That sounds like bad gas or a fouled spark plug, could be the carburetor needs cleaned. Good luck with your engine. Thanks for watching 😎👍
The cams gears are plastic and pressed on only even if it is cast there still only pressed on spins itll cause this issue
Some engines have plastic cam gears but the harbor freight predator 212 has all metal cam. Later in the video I take the side cover off and you can see that it has a metal cam gear. But yes the engines with plastic inside can cause it too
i cant believe the popularity of this video. 5000 views, its just awesome.
@@deucedeuce4223 it could be a carb issue " jetting" or if you minibike/gokart is geared for speed It could do that too
@@deucedeuce4223 its gota be the jetting then. try putting some tape over part of the air filter if it help you need a bigger jet
@@WesleySnyder 46,000 now. Congrats dooder.
I'm still surprised. I'm such a small channel.thanks for watching.
Awesome video can you do a more in-depth one on how you fixed the valve lash? This is my first small motor and never worked on anything but fixed it with your video. I just need to adjust my valve lash now. Not sure how to? Thanks.
ya man im going to do a will it run with an old predator and i will cover valve lash in depth
@@WesleySnyder thanks brother! 🤘
So I’m having an odd problem. Everytime I pull the string starter thing, it stops halfway. So we took it apart and put it back together, and now I was able to pull the string thing. Once I did that, I tried starting it. Some sort of liquid started leaking out from under the engine and it still won’t start...I’m obviously not a genius on these things but if someone could give me some ideas on what to do that’d be great lol
I would start by checking for spark. Pull the spark plug out and plug it in to the plug wire resting the plug on the engine and pull rope. It should have a blue spark on the end. If it does try to use starting fluid. If it starts with that the carb might need cleaned
Hey I have a Coleman ct200u stage 1 + torque converter from ombwarehouse... I have spark I have fuel even tried starting fluid and I get one fire ball and it won’t start up any ideas
sounds like a flywheel key might be sheared or the valve lash could be off
Wesley Snyder there is gas in the bowl but the spark plug seems dry
@@xKh4rma check that the valve lash sounds like the valve is not opening. 4 thousands .004 on both intake and exhaust I believe
good job !
Thanks for watching 👍😎
My mini won't start also when I crank it fire comes out of the exhaust pipe . Kind of like a blowtorch.
Maybe the flywheel key is sheared.
Valve lash hiw many mm?
It is .10mm Thanks for watching 😎👍
when i give mine gas it makes a weird noise and stalls ca you help me any one plzzz
What kinda noise are we talking about
I got a brand new predator 212 and mounted it my mini bike frame, i put oil in it and filled it up with gas but it does the same thing. It pops and it wont start sometimes runs for a few seconds, if anyone could help
What weight of oil did you use. Some times the really thick 20 50 like oil can mess with the compression release.
I just got mine flipped it a few times and now it seems done like this i may try some things thankd
I would clear the cylinder with carb cleaner first just incase oil got in there. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Great Vid!
Thanks my dude. Been getting mostly trolls on this video. Thanks for the positive feedback
@@WesleySnyder Ive got my motor on the bench now going to tear into it tomorrow, you gave me great ideas and i thank you for that, keep making those videos, trolls will be trolls fuck'em!
i put a mikuni carb on today and when i took the side cover off the cam came out to and so the 2 long bolt things came down thats suppose to be right next to the cam and i put them bck in the hole they came out of and put my cam back and and lined it up and now all of a sudden my compression is low so easy to pull but wont start
Any help ?
I would re check the dots are lined up or maybe a valve is stuck open for some reason. Like something maybe in the valve cover.
@@WesleySnyder yea the cam lined up with the dot , when I try to start it it be easy to pull and sound like it don’t have a spark plug but it do
@@kbaxtre9290 oh i think figured it out a push rod is bound up holding the valve open. The "bolt things" are lifters and if the push rod is not in the cup all the way it hold valve open. Pull valve cover and push spring down wiggle push rod into place
@@WesleySnyder ok
What size did you use on the impact drill when you checked the key way
Well its been a while but i think it's 19mm or 3/4... But it may be wrong so don't be upset if im wrong. Thanks for watching 😎👍
@@WesleySnyder thank you. Was it a pop or misfire out of the exhaust? Mine was fine yesterday not it's misfiring from the exhaust and has a little smoke coming out. What would you recommend to check first?
@@WesleySnyder also it crank a few times but turned right off
@@hbc5284that could be so much... Check the key way for shear also the push rods if you have disassembled it, they could not be in the right place... If they are right its most likely a carburetor slash fuel issue... Make a short and link it I will watch it.... Thanks for watching 😎👍
Okay thank you
You can't properly adjust the valve lash without pulling the plug and finding TDC.
My go cart is turns on, when I put it on start but as soon as I put it to run it stops. Also it runs rough and blows some black smoke. Anyone having this issue??
The idle circuit is plugged. There is a plastic thing under the plastic idle screw. Remove the idle screw and the idle thing pops out with a flat screw driver. Work each side and it will pop up. Clean it carefully as it is plastic and it will run great. Good luck
@@WesleySnyder I'll give it a go. Thanks for the advice!!
So all it was was the decompression spring thingy?
Ya some thing was jammed in it not letting it move. I didn't catch it on camera. It was a small piece of plastic from the governor i think.
Have you ever tried deleting the compression release on an engine?
Racing gokarts do that all the time but then the rope start cant hold up to the extra compression. Thats why those electric starters are used. I haven't been brave enough to do it myself. Oh by the way the reason why the engine in this video wouldn't start is because i had to much hyper lube in the oil making it too thick. Thanks for watching 👍😎
@@WesleySnyder i pulled a briggs out of storage and it fired right up. I think the predator may get turned into a boat anchor.
@@RattyFlyer I do love Good old Briggs and Stratton.
Nice Vid. Fail sound effect was awesome jajajajaja. God Bless you and you family.
thank you for watching
Mines starts but only for a second and dies unells I full throttle it and won’t idle and it has a new carb
Maybe the fuel tank vent is plugged. Try it with the cap off see if that helps
Brother the oil level was low if you would have added oil in the beginning that would have cured it the reason it started after you took case off it because you filled the engine with oil and it fired right up good video tho
Hey I had an engine sitting for a while so I removed all the old oil and filled it with some new oil, I didn’t have enough so I mixed a little bit of the old oil in and it doesn’t start, what do you recommend I do?
Check for spark. If I doesn't have any you can disconnect the low oil cut off wire. Its yellow on a predator down on the lower front
@ ya starting fluid..I might work
@ dont scrap it. You can figure it out. You can try to pull the small wire off the coil. That's the kill wire. Then check for spark again
Pull the spark plug out and hook it to the plug wire and pull the cord. You should see spark on end of spark plug.
usually when my engine does this i just change the plug and it starts up first pull
Ya good idea. I should have included that in the videos. Thanks for the comment
So what did you exactly do to fix it? Because mines been doing almost the same thing
The only thing I didn't get on video in this video was I tried a drill on the flywheel. If you did everything I did and it wouldn't start. Try a drill on flywheel to clear it out. Thanks for watching👍
@@WesleySnyder what do you mean a drill on the flywheel?
@@evilokc you can get an adapter to put a socket on a drill and then take the fan shroud off. Put socket on flywheel nut using the drill to turn the engine over like a electric starter. It works to clear out the cylinder.
You like my boss does so many things to the machine and the end didn't know which one was the one that fixed 🤦♂️
This was scripted. My engine never had a problem. This video just shows you what to check when your engine wont start. Thanks for watching 👍😎
Cute kitty
That's kitty is spoiled btw
Thanks from the future, my compression release became stuck on after I tried some 50 weight oil.
Your welcome...That's what happend in this video. people didn't believe me. I always use Lucas or hyper lube.
So this ain’t the problem with my engine it but my engin is kinda new not very old no problems and there was oil in the head because it was flipped for a second. It will start but won’t stay alive and it’s getting gas
It should clear up after a bit. After it starts get it to rev and keep it there for a while. Should clear it out.
what happens if the camshaft doesnt work
If the decompression mechanism on the camshaft is broken or not working it will be difficult to start the engine with the pull start rope, if the camshaft is broken in half it will not start at all.
I've got one that feels like the compression is to hard after I took out the govner now it won't start
Check the flywheel key, it could be sheared.
@@WesleySnyder it's not spinning freely its really hard to rotate
@@WesleySnyder was working fine before maybe I did something with the timing the cam did fallout while I was working on it
@@WesleySnyder but I made sure to match the dots up
@@loufernando7617 thats what i was going to say next. if the tminig marks didnt line up it could do what your engine in doing. make sure the dots line up when insalling the cam.
My motor isn’t old at all , literlyngot it running yesterday for the first time and now it won’t start
thats weird. maybe return it if you can. if not ill help you figure it out
@@WesleySnyder nope I fixed it 😃, I wouldn’t be able to return it anyways with gas and oil already in it
@@Matthew-ib2kz that's great. glad you got it running so fast.
@@WesleySnyder thanks 🙏
Mine doesn’t pop but it won’t start either way
Will it start with starting fluid
Hello Compa,
Thank you for taking the time to film this video and give us a good starting point to fixing our Chondas. All these loosers taking out their ass should make a video before running their zombie mouths.
Right on... thanks heariam. Trolls will be Trolls.
Hey my engine is getting stuck when I pull the pull start what can it be
I would check for excessive gas in the cylinder causing hydro-locking if not some engines have a compression release that could be bad. Ether way pull the plug and of that helps check those
By any chance If its excessive gas how can I drain it
I opened the engine up and I found a little white thing that looks like a little tube that was in the oil can that be a problem
@@giovannigonzalez2932 that may be something to do with the compression release
@@WesleySnyder thats what I'm thinking I just don't know were that white thing goes
your prob. was low oil shut off. they screw up and not let the engine fire unhook it.
That is one thing I didn't cover in this video and it was "unhooked". Thanks for watching
Hey I have this generator and when I pull it it backfires what do you think the problem is
it could be the flywheel key is sheared
I checked it and its good
@@ivanayon8558 ok cool. make sure the valve lash is good too. what generator do you have
Its a homelite with a subaru engine 2800
Oh.. Subaru's have timing chains it may be something to do with a bad chain
Conclusion what was wrong on it 😮😮😮
It was all fake... The predator motor was a paid actor... 👍😎 Thanks for watching 😎👍
I have a hemi, I rode for like and hour and it just stopped
I need more info to be helpful. is it locked up or just not starting. Thanks for watching 👍😎
@@WesleySnyder it’s just not starting, there is no compression and it just spins when you pull the starter
@@gizm0816 pull the valve cover to see if the valve's are moving. Could be just a stuck Valve hopefully
@@WesleySnyder I just got everything backed onto the motor,it’s probably a lemon and I have a warranty so I’ll just return it
@@gizm0816 probably best. Was wondering how new it was and if it was still under warranty.😎👍
Timing duh
Thanks for watching
I has know gas
Did I just see a welded clutch
Gotta get all the life out of them. That clutch is not on there anymore. I put a cvt on it right after this video went up
@@WesleySnyder hey man it’s cool ass hell I like your style just not something I’ve ever seen !
just turn off choke ur flooding
Thanks for watching
So......we really didn't learn what was wrong.
im sure the compression release was the issue. some thing was jammed in there and fell out because it starts first pull now. i know you cant see it sorry for that...thanx for watching
"Had to been 1 of those 4 things".... Well no... That's where ur wrong.. valves could not of been (that) far out where it magically wouldn't start the next day.... Carb was cleaned that would of been an instant result ... Fly wheel key .. it's fine.. take the cam out lol.... Nothing .... Heck it may not of had spark and he's pulling the can out!!!! Lol.... Then magically he says we'll sometimes pulling it apart and putting it back together just fixes it lol.... WRONG .... Probably low on oil and when he "checks" the can and rips it apart fills it back up lol.... What a goof... Ur "trouble shooting" reminds me of a truck driver trying to "fix" his trk when he is very incompetent .... Better luck next time on the guessing game .
@@bwadventures2742 do you feel better now you got all that out. Thanks for watching
1 of 20 things I think we just guess
like your video dude its AWESOME