The Brutal Decline of James Harden
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- Just three years ago, James Harden was considered an MVP level player in the NBA. Today he has requested his third trade in three years and nobody seems willing to make the move to bring him in. Harden has bounced from the Rockets to Brooklyn to Philadelphia over the past three years and has yet to settle with a team. He very publicly quit on the Rockets and the Nets, and after a disappointing 2023 NBA Playoffs, Harden is looking to leave Philadelphia. So what caused the brutal downfall of James Harden?
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I love the running gag where you flash Pat Bev with the camera every time someone says "look."
HAH
One of the best moments of the season by far.
@@RafitoOoOwhen my eyes opened to the facts that the refs were on our side 😂
Part of the problem with Harden is not only has he declined, but no one is going to want to give up assets for a guy who will demand a trade after just a year. He's shot himself in the foot.
And he becomes a complete diva when he doesn't get his way he might as well suck it up and play one more year in Philly or sit out
All my people who watched 2010s basketball, we are now seeing the decline of former stars.
It's like watching T-Mac on the Hawks
Nah harden isn’t that bad yet
KD still balling but he getting much more injury prone l
Harden is not THAT bad yet lol
@@ghandibanks Harden still the same choke job he's been in the past few years, what's making it worse is his foul reliant playstyle no longer works with stricter officiating.
Ur right bro😢
Ever noticed the decline when that rule change happened?
Yes bc he basically got exposed
@princesslightning5447 no not really
yeah, notice too he played on a injured hamstring during the playoff the year prior ?
coincidence is not causation
Yes, I did.
Real ones know, Dwight Howard performed better every single time in the playoffs than James Harden
Yeah, I always see people talk shit on Dwight and the Rockets for those times. Dwight was playing very well tho, even sneaking out some wins despite Harden not playing well
@@pangobara8182 Yeah Dwight slander is too normalized, it's cause of that he was snubbed from top 75. Rockets he was literally the better one of the duo, never got his credit or due, kind of left the franchise with the blame of everything too.
Oh trust us we remember Dwight in that 2014 series vs the Blazers. Man was cookin Robin Lopez
We need to take another look at that beef all these years later. Same with Beal/Wall
Superman always elevated his game in the playoffs.
I have never in my time of watching basketball, seen a proclaimed "star" shrink as consistently as Harden in the biggest moments... Its almost impressive
I think it’s also the fact that the nba had the rule change where he can’t really draw fouls no more
The point is, no one is an anomaly to such a degree that Harden thought he was. He got away with his lifestyle for several years, but once he sustained a real injury that required him to take care of himself, rehab well, and put the hours in to getting his game back to where it used to be, he hasn't been able to do it. If that's how you're gonna be, then fine, have your fun. But you can't also expect for every team to still be foaming at the mouth for you when you don't play well and will demand a trade as soon as things don't pan out
At the end of his Houston days, he looked like this guy I see at Penn Station who panhandles all day.
lmaooo
The issue with Harden is that he’s literally asked out of 3 different teams in the past 2 calendar years, and has not played well in the playoffs, literally every year he’s disappointed overall. So yeah teams aren’t as willing to go for him anymore
Dude scored 40 plus twice and he’s ass apparently
I dont think it's totally fair to say that Harden has "brutally declined". He is still playing at a high level (many would say that he could've been an all star last season). He averaged 21 points and LED THE LEAGUE in assists per game (10.7). I think no one wants him because he still thinks he deserves a 40M+ contract.
Every team would take him for a lower price, especially cuz of his age.
yea im saying the same he upped his assists wich kinda causes ppg to drop aswell as a nagging injury hopefully he can bounce back
@@Alxhapo it causes his overall ppg to drop but we would expect that his efficiency would go up with less offensive load. instead it went down.
36/7/8 is definitely better than 21/5/11, especially if we're taking into consideration that he is less efficient now and that the pace is still going up every year. The three more assists do not compensate for the 14 points lost. He's scoring 39% less, that's quite a lot.
14 points and 2 rebound could be the statline of a decent swingman roleplayer, but no, it's the stats Harden lost in a few seasons (without even seing more success lol)
He played at a high level until it really counts than he disappears in the playoffs.
4 turnovers a game
An elite guy known for his poor conditioning and preferential treatment is declining quickly approaching his mid-30s?
Shocking.
Plays 37 minutes a game over the entire season
@@heigherheights21 Which is why his conditioning should be better than ever at this point.
Two things that led to James Harden decline was the rule change which didn't allow him to draw 10+ fouls a game, and when he gained a lot of weight during COVID-19 when he got to Brooklyn he wasn't explosive to the rim and moved slow on the court.
Bingo. That rule change messed him up. Or should I say exposed him as a fraud.
Perfect timing! I was just like "Man. When are these guys going to upload again?!"
its because the rule changes for fouling..he lived off forcing fouls (which is offensive foul now) and his signature travel stepback is called a travel in game now
Yeah they should have brought up that rule change… everyone at the time knew he would drop like 7ppg without those fouls
Casuals. Shai/Luka are doing the same and baiting the same fouls. His stepback wasn't a Travel and still isn't called. Embiid did it, Siakam did it, watch a game.
@@ArthPedroMAYBE because they've made slight adjustments Harden is incapable of doing.
It's not a coincidence his game declined after the rule changes.
@@LaidBack-- I don't think you know what u're talking about
@@kins6636 or maybe you just don't.
But tomato tomato, lmfao.
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Harden is an example of no matter how much talent you have, if you’re not mentally strong you’ll never be a winner.
It made me laugh when folks started equating him with Kobe. Just stop. Today's soft league.
@@bluegregory6239 people actually said that? 😂😂😂 wtf is wrong with the world?
Kobe if Pau got injured in 2009 and 2010?
This video actually made me teary eyed because it means the 2010’s era is coming to a curtain call.
When Lebron retires the 2010's are over.
Steph won 4 titles in 2010s looks like he will play into early 40s.
I think 2010’s basketball officially ends when Lebron retires AND the GSW trio split/retire.
I’m glad Harden is done.
His run as a “superstar” in Houston was some of the worst basketball.
@@blackwulf8793he run a lot and not tall, hopefully you’re right, but if he’s injured and can’t run as much then he needs to transition to another playing style and pay cuts.
What made James Harden.... The flop for the foul line
Been watching yalls channel religiously while I take care of my 2 month old during night feedings. The quality of your content is insane and hella entertaining
I was waiting for a video about this. Lol well done gentlemen.
the decline was associated with the league evolving and changing the rules against bs foul calls and flops, as well as his own mental fortitude during tough times, or lack thereof.
Whens the Dame with the Blazers Retrospective?
When Tyler Herro sports a Blazers jersey
It's up
Harden averaged 28/7/10, 2 steals, 1 block in 50/40/90 efficiency vs Boston and these mfs said he played "alright" in that Series 😂😂😂😂😂
James harden is just not a winner. Coming from a sixers fan, he needs to leave
Its the foul rule change and fitness. Not to mention he’s easy to predict in the playoffs and cant close important games. Kobe called this a while ago
Casual take sadly
@@WalterFlanaginhow is this a casual take he speaking facts
Already know this is gonna be a banger
Harden was never that great to begin with. His patented move is a travel and in the playoffs his free throw antics don't work. His play style is also horrible to watch.
Yes and my grandfather consider Jordan to be unwatchable and a fraud because he was carrying the ball basically every time he had to dribble. Times change, so do the rules
yeah i think that hamstring injury killed him, he lost part of his burst and speed
Kyrie was smart not to take the myocarditis vaccine just like the SEAL operators rejected them.
The Seals rejected it?
You can't party like he did and play well deep into your career. His lack of decline relative to how much he enjoys his free time is actually impressive. He's not who he was or who he thinks he is anymore but he's still a decent player
Never was sold on Harden. His was a prolific scorer because the rules allowed him to be...always fishing for the fouls and living on the free throw line. After the league tightened that up, he couldn't rely on that tactic.
So explain how he went nuclear on the Celtics dropping 40+ lol
Without those rules
He’s just getting old and inconsistent
Slight rule changes and being out of Mike D'antoni system helped the decline. People don't give enough credit to Mike D'antoni when players have their best offensive seasons. Hell he helped make Jeremy Lin look like Iverson for a month.
Man watching warriors vs rockets from the 2015 season was crazy
it’s funny this video is 13 minutes long lol
It wasn’t a surprise we saw same happen to Westbrook, harden is only a year younger. He relies on calls which doesn’t work in playoffs.
The issue with harden is he relies on free throws and flops to score. When the league implemented anti-flopping rules, he declined, almost 50% of his score comes from the ft line.
no, he was still good in 2021 after they implemented the rules
@@moogerchee2287😂😂😂 bro literally shoots 2/20 but still got 30 under his name. Where’d you think those scores came from? After they implemented the anti flopping rules, he’s been inconsistent asf. Still to this day, he’s just always surrounded by great talent.
bro he has no explosiveness after his hamstring injury and he's 34, u think he could keep driving by defenders like usual? compare any highlights from 2022 and 2020, the speed is way different. his decline is only because of age and injuries@@4UST1N
Idk I always thought harden was a regular season stat padder. Usually turned into Casper the friendly ghost during the playoffs
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Great video, always thought Harden was a beast when he started at OKC, but for real the guy just does not have the consistency or the playoff capability to be a top level guy anymore, and that's a shame. Also, on a side note, I caught that remix of Roman's theme in the end card scene. In this house we put em up ☝
What I don't understand is how he could have regressed so much when his playstyle has always been more technical and less focus on athleticism like Westbrook.
Man, it’s just sad. I know a lot of people have already said this, but if CP3 hadn’t got injured at the end of Game 5 of the 2018 WCF, Harden would have had a ring. At the very least, seeing his decline would have been less depressing.
Nah.
yea no lmao houston still could’ve won without cp3 in game 7 they just choked
I have been critical of harden but he was the only reason they even had a chance against the Celtics. Embiid was awful all series, harden at least won them some games
I think his scoring production fell off when they stop giving him all those fouls from the flopping he would do every possession.
Can they do the same for Steph?
I feel like since they changed the fouling rules Harden's playstyle just doesn't work.
Hardens problem, same as so many other athletes is his attitude.
The dude never adjusted to the rule changes he brought or increased his effort to make up for it, he just continues to toss the ball away and throw his arms up expecting a whistle like he always has instead of actually trying to play ball, meanwhile next season he's gonna be catching whistles left and right for his bullshit, mans did it to himself and gets zero sympathy from me.
Don’t talk to me ab the rule change bruh steph got 25 free throws in a game against the kings off 0 contact😭 league just had it in for Harden bc he was the face of flopping
Wtf. How can you say he hasn’t adjusted?
I can’t remember bro is that intro song from CoD or UFC 4?
All of Harden teammates either got hurt or declined playing with him. His first time with a real team he got hurt
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At this time, James Harden should consider reuniting with Fergie and the other two dudes and record another Black EyE Peas album.
well...
not to sing my own praises.. but I said from the very start that The Beard might find the market for his services a lot smaller than it used to be...
and the "decline" of his play, or rather the change in perception of his play, is not even the main reason here.. it's everything else.. especially Harden setting the price for his services at $35m not subject to negotiation, for one year and unrestricted Free Agency after that.. that's pretty steep..
not to mention, the Sixers probably would like something in return..
and given his antics over the past few seasons, including the his pattern of messier and messier exits from organizations, that's not the most enticing proposition.. he could have just let the market come to him in Free Agency and choose the most suitable offer..
but no.. instead he exercized hie $35m option, walked into the Front Office and said: "I don't have any intention to play for you.. find me a trade.. I'll be at the stripclub.." I'm not gonna lie, he looks like a bit of a c*nt there..
and may have put the Sixers' Front Office in an impossible situation.. because as it turns out, there's no interest right now.. so they're stuck with his $35m, no starting second option and no cap space to try and replace him..
makes you wonder why there's so much relutance to bring him into any other organization, indeed...
Bout right 👍
Harden was never going anywhere for long. Playoffs require defense and leadership: he has neither.
If you have historic production and no ring to show for it, either your team really really suck, or you're stat chasing first, winning second. And his disparaging remark at his own team in houston lead me to believe that his ego is so big that he could get away with it.
it's sad because you'd think he'd have aged gracefully with that jumper and passing ability. To be fair, he's still performing. He's just struggling with the same things he's always struggled with just more slowly.' He can't play off his teammates, is flaky when it matters and quits on his team instead of being the change that his team needs. Sad, man I was looking forward to seeing the kyle anderson slow mo style harden I was expecting.
Its the fucking cornrows😭 I swear shit went downhill from there (Houstonian)
11:40 LOL then he went to the clippers. We saw how that went. The playoffs went exactly as much everything described in this prescient video described. I think he was getting paid $35m a year to score like 17 pts in the playoffs lol
Harden fans love to ignore the rule change 😂😂😂
I like the Hotline Miami intro...
Bro is out here looking like the modern day Latrell Spreewell. He better smarten up and realize his worth before no team decides to pick him up. And whoever picks him better have a solid number one and two option knowing that this guy won’t show up in the playoffs
This is just sad
When he said peek Kobe? 5/24 21pts Kobe or 40games straight no ring Kobe out in first round? Orr HOF coach, executive and perennial All-stars Kobe??
Cmon dude has been the problem for years. The ultimate stat padder who falls off when it matters the most. Every time he's carried a team early in a playoff series he's immediately blown the next game.
What happened to him he done it to himself. Trying to get out of the Rockets uniform. He put a hold on his training . So when he got traded and played without training he got injured . So with hamstring that will stop training all together. That put all his game in a decline . With his age it will be hard to comeback from where he was .
Time to shave the beard
Harden a 3rd option in the regular season and a 6th man in the playoffs at best rn. Emiid is also a 2nd option on a championship team so this duo will never workout
Remember when they change the rules about fouls so he can’t get to the line like how he used to so he’s kind of easier to guard
Ngl, I feels like all nba star players are declining nowadays. D-rose declined, Carmelo declined, d-wade declined, Ben “can’t shoot” Simmons is definitely not the same player he once was. Everyone thought Ben was the one and all had to eat every last word. Seems like KD is on the same path.
Lebron though
His decline was simple and obvious; he feels entitled to win but doesn't do what's required to do so. When have you heard of his being a good teammate? He tries to carry teams that don't need to be carried and stunts everyone on the team in the process. He exhausts himself every season by not trusting anyone else on the team
?? Dude just led the league in assits
harden shouldnt have played on a bad hamstring it cut his prime
Ever since that rule change
He bounced around between the rockets nets and Sixers
His production declined
He should just retire from the league at this point.
I was w this video until around the 10 minute mark where Philly thought they were getting Houston harden. No they did not😂
NBA changed the way fouls were called and Harden became slower as well.
Morey does not love him anymore.
Now I might sound like an S tier hater but I knew Harden was on the decline was during the 2021 first round during the raptors. I believe after Embiid hit the game winner from 3 in that series, harden posted him with the caption “MVP”. He was also stinking it up consistently during this point and while you can say he was being a good teammate, the harden I knew would never call another man the mvp😭😭
So baked just watched 12 minutes of this without realizing there’s 2 people talking
In the year 2000....
When half your game is fake a foul .. you are going to suck when you get old 🤣
Say what you will about Harden but had Sam Presti (GM for the OKC Thunder) not foolishly trade him away he would have won 3 and maybe even more championships. That Thunder team was the most talented team in history. There has NEVER been a team with 3 MVP level players on it. NEVER and there never will be again. I don't know what the hell Presti was thinking but it will go down as arguably the stupidest decision in the history of pro sports.
The trend in officiating moving away from calling so many fouls hurt his game.
Who wants a player whose only consistent trait is his inconsistency.
Y’all tripping.. if y’all check impact metics, you’d see that James more impactful than a lot of all stars. The real question is why does Joel Embid get off scot-free?
Imagine if these current stars had a work ethic
I don’t know if he’s the most hated player in history. Anyone ever hear of a guy named Bill Laimbeer??
his homie gm in 2 teams has tried to help him so much n make him out to be a better scorer than mj and yet they cant win the chip. harden was able to put up higher stats cuz he got given a coach who wanted heavy offence while stat padding with his ridiculous foul flops n baits while hooking is arm as soon as he felt contact. yet always shrunk in the post season. how is harden considered a top shooting guard when he cant make a finals while he has mostly had teams built around him n then kept jumping to other teams?
I almost gave up watching nba games entirely all because Hardee's was living off foul calls to becoming NBA75 smh
Sixers fan here. I've never liked Harden and never wanted him on the team. He did exactly what I thought he'd do which is take us all the way to the playoffs just so we can lose when it mattered most. We were already doing that without him he added absolutely nothing to our team.
don't worry, sixers are never getting anything with embiid on the team, not even past the second round
@@moogerchee2287 I agree
Funny how y’all saying he has declined so much but he’s still one of the best guards in the league lol. Literally can’t name more then 3-4 players better passer
U know who screwed him, Stephen a smith cause he trash d’antoni and wanted to get him fired and d’antoni was a big reason y hard was so good
Dude literally led the league in assists and was a 20 point scorer and people call him washed. Thats why your average fan is a casual.
Harden or as i like to call him tmac 2.0. great for the season, clocks out in the post.
Im sorry but this James harden hate is just going to far.
In his Houston years people criticized him for his lack of team play and his heavily relying on isolation play - that he was the key of the rockets offense while averaging 35+ points in back to back seasons. Now when he changed his play style and swings the rock more while still averaging 20 plus points he is now washed? He was second in assist average the last season and still was able to score. People just apparently hate on him for whatever. Averaging 35 a night is bad, because it's egoistic, but averaging 20 and 10 is now also bad because you don't average 35 anymore.
What logic is that? And the title of the video being 'The brutal decline of James Harden' despite his stats showing him be a strong and complete player is just nonsense. If he just doesn't fit into a team does that make him a bad player. NO!
I cant wait til harden retires...the guy is such a headache...sucks in the playoffs and bails on teams when they dont play his way...no one wants him
His downfall started when he starred in avengers endgame..
WESTBROOK, would be the next f-in video of that kind?!!!
New Orleans will be a good fit
Atp Harden is who he is. A former Mvp and future hall of famer that folds in the playoffs. This is the same guy thst went out to strip clubs after playoff losses.
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