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Funniest thing about diamonds and the cartels, is that they ranted and raved about how natural diamonds are perfect, but then pivoted that imperfections are mark of real diamond when lab grown can make even more perfect diamond
And yet they still dupe the most gullible and stupid among us into buying the natural ones as if it makes a difference. I guess spilt blood really is the most valuable part of the process.
And the labs can grow those piss yellow diamonds for cheaper too. As well as other unexpected colors, including new ones. And yet I'd still tell people to NOT buy lab grown diamonds. Just because it stops advertising diamonds in general.
I love that we say "diamonds are forever" when in fact the most thermodynamically stable form of carbon is graphite. So given enough time all diamonds we have will turn into pencils.
At room temperature it will take about 1 billion years. It happens much quicker at temperatures between 1500-1700°C. Help entropy today by throwing your engagement ring into a volcano!
when I was looking into engagement rings (I went with a natural sapphire) I looked into lab grown, I think they have a branding image, they should not be called "lab grown" but should rebrand as "crucible forged gems", sounds much cooler and is more accurate to the gem making process
Same problem lab-grown meat has. That industry's finally starting to wise up now though, calling their product simply 'meat' and the natural product 'slaughtered meat'. Been seeing that change a lot lately personally. Crucible forged gems definitely sounds way better from a marketing perspective.
If you are looking for a more efficient way to hand make dimonds, I would recommend using a chunk of graphite as it would take less energy to turn into a dimond.
My wife worked at a Hong Kong lab diamond jewelry company as a graphic designer. She was really happy to be working somewhere that would change things from relying on diamond mines. Turns out none of the marketing material she made was allowed to mention that lab grown diamonds are more sustainable and ethical. The company's relationship with the stores (and by extension De Beers) kneecapped any possibility of that. Can confirm what OT said, the industry is apparently embracing lab diamonds as an inevitability but as a budget option rather than a replacement. "Oh you can't afford a reeeeal diamond? Well we do have these things."
Luckily, the old are dying out and people are seeing thru the façade more and more every year now. “Oh, it’s cheaper? And more pure? Cool, give me 20.” While “falsehoods can travel around the world before the truth is lacing up its boots”, “the arc of the moral universe…bends towards justice [truth]”.
you miss the fact that the industry is massively divided with dozens of new companies banking on lab grown taking over (and yes with the ethical selling points you mention). really it’s just de beers being this cringe
For my sisters engagement ring, my brother in law purchased a fat rough imperfect Wyoming diamond for like $100. He found a local artisan who specializes in copper art (my sister loves copper for some reason) to design her engagement ring and their wedding rings and he worked with that artist for months to come up with a design for my sister, who is a hobby artist herself. He ended up with this beautiful naturalistic design and he got a jeweler to polish the natural diamond just enough so it would shimmer. My sister loved it and he ended up spending less than $1200 for the ENTIRE SET. I think that putting in personal effort and proving that you can be fiscally responsible is a much better message to convey when you propose. Their entire wedding was actually by far the best I’ve ever been to and it cost the couple half the price of a normal wedding of that caliber. All they did was dismiss the stupid traditions that make weddings so expensive. Marry an accountant, guys.
This is cute and this is way more significant and powerful than dropping thousands of dollars on a useless rock. If I were to ever get married, I'd rather make something cool and meaningful for the love of my life than get some generic ass diamond ring. Something that would be emotionally significant and not just some fancy ass finger glitter. I always thought it would be cute to propose with a friendship bracelet, but that's just me, lmao.
I know someone who proposed with a handcrafted kitchen table. He knew how many happy memories were made for her around the kitchen table growing up so he gave her a special one to make more as they started her own family. Much better than jewelry.
I designed a ring for my fiancée. I went to the best-rated jeweler to make it. They pressed me to substitute the lab diamond (F, VVS1) for a natural one because "lab diamonds are of inferior quality, will yellow quickly, and break during the ring forging process." All of it is a load of horse manure. I nodded through their pitch, then promptly retired my clearly too peasant buttocks from the premises. The next jeweler was more agreeable and they didn't outright lie. The ring turned out great!
similar experience to me, the seller was bragging about only selling natural. when I asked can they get lab grown they said loads of rubbish about it being grown out of sludge and they come out 'too perfect people will know you cheaped out' when I asked why the natural ones were better she said "the price" I walked out went to a place with a young guy seller who made a beautiful lab grown alexandrite and diamond ring for less than a single stone itself would have cost in the first store.
Was talking about rings with an-ex of mine and diamonds never even came up. She's Chinese, I'm Australian so I mentioned Jade and Opal and she agreed it was much more meaningful and symbolic and interesting than diamonds.
@@deanchur That's awesome. I've never really been into well, big marriage ceremonies and all that fluff as a whole, maybe a small symbolic one between me and my partner, plus a dozen or two dozen close friends and relatives. Thorum is a company that makes really pretty looking rings that stand out from the generic diamond and silver, using materials like various wood, unconventional metals including ones found in meteors etc. Those kinds of rings are vastly more appealing imo. Though of course, one you design or make yourself will outshine them all.
As a jewelry salesman, I actually love lab diamonds. People still max out their budgets when buying lab, they just buy a larger diamond than if they were getting natural. And I get about twice the profit margin 😁
As a Russian diamond engineer I can say that this video is overall true and well made. The only thing that is shown poorly and feels underappreciated is the actual polishing part of the rough stone. It's a very complicated process and a true work of art by a skilled cutter.
Fun little story about these lab grown diamonds. While I studied for my bachelor in physics I was involved in a group working with Nitrogen-vacancy CVD-diamonds. Not just can laboratories grow diamonds, they can be grown with certain defects in them which allow them to have spectroscopic effects and emit light when excitated by a laser. Someone in the lab paid for growing two of these diamonds and proposed with them. So he got a diamond that literally shines brighter than these blood diamonds.
@@Jake-bt3fcBro you don't understand what moissanite is. Reread the comment. He literally bought what you're saying to buy. Rings are stupid. Money should not be a limiting factor in a marriage.
@@runed0s86 Diamonds are carbon. Moissanite silicon carbide. Don't call your moissanites diamonds, lol. Just call it what it is and don't be ashamed of it.
@@Jake-bt3fcmoissanite is actually more expensive than an equivalent lab diamond now. Within the last 6-9 months the lab diamond price has collapsed and it will continue to decrease for the foreseeable future which is awesome.
I love the completely different reaction between a diamond owner and an actual diamond expert 😂 Edit: Was actually a diamond seller so was probably payed to say that 😞
Same as anything else. Movies, diamonds, collectibles. Experts will usually have a different reaction than the random owner. Think of all the people on pawn stars who come in with "something really special" only to be told "yeah man it's a reproduction from like 10 years ago."
@@SECONDQUEST pawn stars are encouraged to heavily undercut the patrons, then resell with double the price what the patron was asking for in the first place
Fun fact, an easy way to tell if your diamond is a Canadian non-conflict diamond just put a black light to it. Seems that an asteroid decided that nuclear war style energy release was a good idea at some point and now there traces of tritium in northern Canadian diamonds that glow under black light.
To be fair gold value for the vast majority of human history has basically been completely arbitrary and the same thing as diamonds where people liked it because it's shiny. We do now have actual like functional uses for gold like in electronics and measuring equipment and shit. And I do think I guess there's some kind of use for some type of diamond for tools but I don't think it's the same kind of diamond that we're talkin about when we talk about jewelry.
It’s ironic that synthetic, virtually molecularly perfect diamonds are almost common and used for practical purposes like industrial applications for cutting and drilling as well as coating industrial instruments and the imperfections of natural diamonds are what make them worth something in our society.
The imperfections only became a selling point as part of a marketing campaign that ‘natural diamonds are better’ before industrial diamonds became common natural diamonds were more valuable the less imperfections they had
I proposed with a lab grown gem. My partner specifically asked for an ethical gem. And it was over twice as large and twice as pretty than any "natural" diamond I could ever hope to afford. I (and her) make sure to tell everyone it's lab grown
Just as an aside, the part of Africa shown at 5:23, while indeed named Rhodesia, was only named that after 1965. Before that, it was named Southern Rhodesia and represented about a third of the territory that bore his name. Northern and Southern Rhodesia comprised the countries that are now Zimbabwe and Zambia, along with smaller portions of modern Botswana and Malawi. Truly, the legacy of the man's wealth and power was absolutely enormous and many of the issues that confront these modern states were borne out of decisions that were made in his name. When you named him 'Britains Biggest Arsehole' you weren't wrong. Excellent video:)
His influence lingers to this day through things like the Rhodes Scholars. He imposed his will on that region of Africa as well after death through the “Round Table” movement and “Milner’s Kindergarten”. Even the brief Wikipedia entries are very illuminating but Carrol Quigley has 2 very in depth books on the subject. President Bill Clinton also happened to shout out Carrol Quigley as he was his professor at Georgetown. Bill Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar, odd that.
When I was a kid in the 90s, I was digging/breaking up through a piece of charcoal and found a tiny diamond. My young brain was just like, “oh, I guess there’s little crystals in every piece of charcoal”. It wasn’t till later that I learned diamonds, come from Coal, but I realized I actually found a real diamond in a piece of charcoal and just threw it away
If you were digging and breaking up chunks of actual coal then it's certainly possible. Living in a coal rich part of the states and having had generations of miners in the family, it certainly does happen. Charcoal, however, is basically what's leftover after burning wood either by say throwing a log in a fire then scaping off the ash or more commonly burning the wood over a longer period of time at a lower temp in a dirt mound or something similar.
The average artistic pencils has some kind of small sparks every now and then. I already knew by then those are microscopic diamonds but if you where to tell me I could find a tiny chunk like yours in coal I would had been more obsessed with finding one one day!😊 Don't frown because you've toss it smile because you've found it🎉
You can't find diamonds in *charcoal*. Charcoal is formed by burning wood in an oxygen-poor environment. You won't find diamonds in regular coal either: Diamonds can be formed out of any carbon source, like carbonate rocks. But coal typically hasn't been subjected to the pressures required to create diamonds. If you find sparkly bits in graphite they are more likely other minerals like quartz.
As an ex jeweler I can confidently say that diamonds are a scam. As pointed out in the video they are way overpriced, and in my personal opinion boring. The only interesting ones are the colored diamonds as you can get them in all manner of colors but people want the plane blank ones.
its always great to have the real truth of diamonds spoken yet again. its crazy that 90 precent of people i meet think diamonds actually are rare and have value
I honestly didn't know Lab growing was a thing nowadays. I mostly knew of synthetic diamonds being achieved through the use of gigantic Cubic Presses that could generate the pressure needed for synthetic diamonds. That is pretty cool! Can't say i am surprised to hear there is a concerted effort to give "Natural" diamonds some mystical quality to make it appear as "better". That is a old trick straight out of the Pharmaceutical handbook where brands like Bayer try to convince you Aspirin is better than acetylsalicylic-acid tablets sold by generic brands. The kicker being that its the exact same molecule crammed in a calcium tablet...
If I was ever gonna get a ring for someone, it'd be custom made of Rhodium and Palladium, two of the most rare and expensive precious metals on earth and the universe as a whole. Where diamonds turn into CO2 if heated, a metal atom will always be a metal atom unless it undergoes a nuclear reaction. Palladium and Rhodium never tarnish, just like my love for whoever I'm getting the ring for may be. But that's just my random opinion :)
And, in a pinch, you can do coupling reactions with it! (Ok maybe don't try that but palladium does get used an awful lot in various coupling reactions between carbon atoms in the lab)
My wife wanted a lab made one; not because she cares about conflict diamonds; but because I could get a larger one for her for what I would have spent on a real one and no one can really tell at a glance 😂
At a glance, you can't tell the difference between glass and a diamond. Lab grown and mined up ones only have one difference: it takes an expert with a microscope to look for flaws. Flawed ones are mined from the earth. That's it.
@@1234bobfoxyou can actually have flawed lab diamonds too. The flaws are caused by the quality of the mould used to produce the diamond. Basically, you pay extra for them to shape and clean the mould 😄
"Me, a guy who stopped studying chemistry before losing his virginity" - I had no idea he's been studying chemistry for so long. Must be working on his post-doc by now.
Fantastic video. Great research, love the fact that you went out and interviewed professionals and saw the lab grow process for yourself. Can't wait to see how this channel grows in the future.
I love the direction you are taking these videos, using some budget to actually go out and meet with the subject of the video adds a lot of meat to the videos. They keep getting better 💪
I am studying journalism and I can just hope to aspire to your level some day. Your videos are amazing and I can't help to admire and wonder how you het your inspiration, your themes, your info and the time to all this plus the editing. Keep up the amazing work man!
IDEA FOR A BOND FILM: A bunch of warlords form a criminal organisation to protect their income from conflict diamonds and only Bond can stop them from destroying Cardiff. I don't think there's been a Bond film set in Wales... but maybe there should be.
Not saying the quality of his videos has been poor. Quite the contrary he puts out exceptional work. That being said this video knocks everything he’s done recently out of the water. This is transcendent.
As a one-time apprentice watchmaker who went on to have several jewelry businesses and get deeply involved in the world of cutting / faceting gemstones and then jewelry wholesale markets, .... Diamonds and the associated bling economy are one of the most dumbfounding things I've ever been a part of. In my late twenties I moved on and evolved to focus more on the world of engineering and metrology. So I've been around a lot of different types of industry... But the jewelry markets remain one of the most bewildering and disorienting experiences I've had
Guessing you were on the selling side. Not the making side. Anyways, go get yourself a raw diamond and cut in a way that makes it shine. You can't, I can't. That's you paying for. Your paying an artisan for precision work. It's going cost.
People love to spend on things they are told it's difficult to acquire. Why? Because spending money is their only source of serotonin. They literally have nothing but family that hates them but still need to maintain and money to burn.
You found the perfect balance in your script writing. Weighing the facts with a perfect amount of jokes sprinkled in. Well done. Been subbed since 20k and happy to see the growth!
Just wanted to say, I really appreciate as a viewer you going out your way to go to IRL locations and talking to the real experts. Makes the video much more professional and interesting to watch :)
My wife actually wanted a lab one because she didn’t want to get potential conflict diamonds. She cared more about the platinum ring than the stone itself.
Oh, I was confused when you said diamonds are worthless. But then I realized that where I work we see diamonds on the tips of cutting blades more than on coworkers' fingers. If you can figure out how to measure your girl's finger (simple calipers work fine) just make a ring for her. It means way more that way
This video brought back memories from my job interview at the Debeers diamond factory. they had tonnes of leaflets apologizing for conflict diamonds and making out the kimberly process iradicated conflict diamonds and starved the rebels of funds so much they all retained as building contractors or some crap...
The Koh-i-Noor isn't in the Imperial State Crown. It's in the crown of Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother. A crown that Elizabeth II never wore. It would've been worn by Queen Camilla had it not been so controversial. Even though, as you say, it's been stolen half a dozen times and according to the Indian government it was a gift to Queen Victoria "as compensation for help in the Sikh Wars. The Koh-i-Noor is not a stolen object".
If you want a diamond then buy a moissanite - you get a far wider range of colours & also a much better 'sparkle' from them for far far cheaper. They are 100% the better gemstone, the only difference is they are approx 98% as hard as a diamond is which makes them only the second hardest gemstone after diamonds (and look way better than them)
I've never understood why people are so obsessed with diamonds... Thiers not rare, they're not that pretty and they all look the same. But as a space nerd I absolutely LOVE gold! Just the fact that gold is formed by the intense shockwave only a kilonova or 2 colliding neutron stars can achieve is just mind-blowing to me! Having a ring or on you and knowing that it was formed in such insane hostile conditions is just really nifty!
@@enderblazex2718 diamonds are actually fairly useful in industrial machinery because of their hardness and durability, often being used in cutters and grinders. They are so fine that they don't look like diamonds though.
Just to be clear, at 17:10, the context is he's explaining to the inmates what they might get executed for, and that includes looting and rape of locals.
I like how he translated Prigozhin's phrase "it's strongly prohibited to engage to an non-consenting sexual contacts with women, men, flora or fauna" as an appeal for sexual violence
This was really interesting, like all your videos! I just wish they were more frequent, but I understand that quality takes time. Thanks for your content 😊
That was actually the best incogni ad I've viewed. They're very fond of sponsoring CZcams vids but most the CZcamsrs I've seen just read the basic copy and leave me with no idea how it bloody works. Your ad actually has me slightly tempted. Shame I blew all my money on diamonds and dance dance revolution in Yokohama.
That's not remotely what they said... I don't know why you are using quotation marks when you aren't quoting, but instead inventing a quote with very different meaning They were saying that all diamonds, no matter how old, are new, because they don't wear out. Conflict diamonds prove the existence of a secondary market
@@fireballdick Real quote: "There's no such thing as a second hand diamond" Misquote: "There's no secondary diamond market" The first quote means that diamonds aren't damaged in use. Unlike a car, which can be second hand by virtue of being used, a diamond that's been owned by thousands of people is just as good as the day it was first cut. All diamonds are as good as new. The second quote means you can't resell them. Which is an absurd proposition.
My wife proposed to me with a beautiful two-tone wooden ring with a titanium band down its centre. Now we have matching two-tone wooden rings with chrysocola centre bordered by titanium. They are prettier than any diamond ring I've ever seen.
Id recommend Opal for anyone looking for gemstones. Much is mined by local miners who live in distant towns throughout Aus. Give them some coin, poor buggers live a hard life. I'm a dude and i recently got myself a pair of round boulder opal earrings for a fair price at around $440. One is a mix of blues and a few touches of green , the other is mixed with red and purple and blue, they're gorgeous, the colour reminds me of space. But they do require a bit of care since they're a fragile gemstone. Also phenomenal vid as per usual, keep up the awesome work
one of my favorite channels!! truly awesome stuff, love the radical style, yet so informative and truthful! Also love you on incognito mode, you're my fav cohost for sure!
I worked for a short time i the Antwerp diamond sector and I can tell you that it is all very shady. Almost all companies are located or have links in Dubai. It's impossible to find information about them and to control them. Of course it could be possible with stronger regulations, but the local regulators don't want to lose their little area of (questionnable) income and prestige.
Its like working in a pawn shop, there are supposed to be all sorts of safeguards to prevent unethical practices but those that are followed are inadequate and the rest are just ignored industry wide.
i walk the walk. when my partner gave me a diamond i asked for a fake version and for the difference to go to an animal charity. i'm very lucky because he 100% understood, and just thought it was amusing how i'm always gonna be me, no matter how much other people crumble in the face of money or "prestige".
This is a topic I was sure he was either saving or avoiding, it just fits his channel so well. Glad to know he was saving it for when he could fucking make one for himself. Best informative channel on CZcams. As long as he keeps making content, I will continue watching it as soon as I can.
I have to say, I really appreciate the sources being shown on screen rather than being hidden in some google doc or right down the bottom of the description or worse yet, not shown at all
I am old enough to watch this happen in the 80s, but didn't realize it wasn't normal. As far as I could tell, those comercials were just telling us how things are. I am actually shocked to learn this.
4:45 I've said it once, and I'll say it again: never trust a door-to-door salesman. If they can make it in that cut-throat business, they're the biggest cut-throat of them all.
Diamonds are cringe. I proposed to my girl with a custom made meteorite ring. We didn't work out, but I'm still proud to have made something unique for her without feeding a corrupt market.
I can't believe he's been studying chemistry all these years.
Probably gets pretty hard after decades of non-stop learning.
I haven't lost my virgiinity cuuz i never lose. 😎
Lmao
damn imagine your most popular comment on your video being one calling you a virgin 💀
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Funniest thing about diamonds and the cartels, is that they ranted and raved about how natural diamonds are perfect, but then pivoted that imperfections are mark of real diamond when lab grown can make even more perfect diamond
Funny isn't it? You'll literally never find a perfect diamond in the wild. Yet it's cheaper to get an actual, atom-perfect lab diamond.
And yet they still dupe the most gullible and stupid among us into buying the natural ones as if it makes a difference. I guess spilt blood really is the most valuable part of the process.
They're even trying to market piss yellow diamonds that used to be worthless.
And the labs can grow those piss yellow diamonds for cheaper too. As well as other unexpected colors, including new ones.
And yet I'd still tell people to NOT buy lab grown diamonds. Just because it stops advertising diamonds in general.
Was your English grown in a lab too or is it naturally flawed?
I love that we say "diamonds are forever" when in fact the most thermodynamically stable form of carbon is graphite. So given enough time all diamonds we have will turn into pencils.
And all pencils will turn into diamonds
@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 nah, all pencils will eventually turn into explicit sketches on twitter or reddit
Diamonds are literally #2's
Less valued but much more useful
At room temperature it will take about 1 billion years. It happens much quicker at temperatures between 1500-1700°C. Help entropy today by throwing your engagement ring into a volcano!
when I was looking into engagement rings (I went with a natural sapphire) I looked into lab grown, I think they have a branding image, they should not be called "lab grown" but should rebrand as "crucible forged gems", sounds much cooler and is more accurate to the gem making process
Same problem lab-grown meat has. That industry's finally starting to wise up now though, calling their product simply 'meat' and the natural product 'slaughtered meat'. Been seeing that change a lot lately personally.
Crucible forged gems definitely sounds way better from a marketing perspective.
Moissanite gemstones are also a fantastic budget-friendly option
How to make diamonds, like a real man, take two pieces of coal and compress them into diamonds with you bare hands.
That's some Baki shit right there.
pretty sure Saxton Hale did that once in the comics
If you are looking for a more efficient way to hand make dimonds, I would recommend using a chunk of graphite as it would take less energy to turn into a dimond.
It's true, I saw Supernan do it once!
It actually requires a lot of heat to make a diamond so it's better to use your ass to cush it.
My wife worked at a Hong Kong lab diamond jewelry company as a graphic designer. She was really happy to be working somewhere that would change things from relying on diamond mines. Turns out none of the marketing material she made was allowed to mention that lab grown diamonds are more sustainable and ethical. The company's relationship with the stores (and by extension De Beers) kneecapped any possibility of that. Can confirm what OT said, the industry is apparently embracing lab diamonds as an inevitability but as a budget option rather than a replacement. "Oh you can't afford a reeeeal diamond? Well we do have these things."
Of course it would, doing otherwise would mean that public impression of the actual value of diamons would go down.
Luckily, the old are dying out and people are seeing thru the façade more and more every year now. “Oh, it’s cheaper? And more pure? Cool, give me 20.” While “falsehoods can travel around the world before the truth is lacing up its boots”, “the arc of the moral universe…bends towards justice [truth]”.
you miss the fact that the industry is massively divided with dozens of new companies banking on lab grown taking over (and yes with the ethical selling points you mention). really it’s just de beers being this cringe
What? You want a diamond that is not tainted with human blood? Don't you love your wife? Peasant
Foul play
What a great video, 10/10
Its the guy that definitely isn’t a lizard!
Based wendigoon
You’re the guy with the fast food chain named after you!
Funny man who made funny video about mystery flesh pit national park
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For my sisters engagement ring, my brother in law purchased a fat rough imperfect Wyoming diamond for like $100. He found a local artisan who specializes in copper art (my sister loves copper for some reason) to design her engagement ring and their wedding rings and he worked with that artist for months to come up with a design for my sister, who is a hobby artist herself. He ended up with this beautiful naturalistic design and he got a jeweler to polish the natural diamond just enough so it would shimmer. My sister loved it and he ended up spending less than $1200 for the ENTIRE SET. I think that putting in personal effort and proving that you can be fiscally responsible is a much better message to convey when you propose. Their entire wedding was actually by far the best I’ve ever been to and it cost the couple half the price of a normal wedding of that caliber. All they did was dismiss the stupid traditions that make weddings so expensive. Marry an accountant, guys.
What did they leave out? I'm curious as to what I might be including in our upcoming ceremony that wouldn't be missed if omitted🤔
This is cute and this is way more significant and powerful than dropping thousands of dollars on a useless rock. If I were to ever get married, I'd rather make something cool and meaningful for the love of my life than get some generic ass diamond ring. Something that would be emotionally significant and not just some fancy ass finger glitter. I always thought it would be cute to propose with a friendship bracelet, but that's just me, lmao.
I know someone who proposed with a handcrafted kitchen table. He knew how many happy memories were made for her around the kitchen table growing up so he gave her a special one to make more as they started her own family. Much better than jewelry.
I designed a ring for my fiancée. I went to the best-rated jeweler to make it. They pressed me to substitute the lab diamond (F, VVS1) for a natural one because "lab diamonds are of inferior quality, will yellow quickly, and break during the ring forging process." All of it is a load of horse manure. I nodded through their pitch, then promptly retired my clearly too peasant buttocks from the premises. The next jeweler was more agreeable and they didn't outright lie. The ring turned out great!
similar experience to me, the seller was bragging about only selling natural. when I asked can they get lab grown they said loads of rubbish about it being grown out of sludge and they come out 'too perfect people will know you cheaped out'
when I asked why the natural ones were better she said "the price"
I walked out went to a place with a young guy seller who made a beautiful lab grown alexandrite and diamond ring for less than a single stone itself would have cost in the first store.
very impressive you designed the ring yourself! Now thats a real show of love in my eyes
Was talking about rings with an-ex of mine and diamonds never even came up. She's Chinese, I'm Australian so I mentioned Jade and Opal and she agreed it was much more meaningful and symbolic and interesting than diamonds.
That's a very neat story. Best of luck and lots of love to you both!
@@deanchur That's awesome. I've never really been into well, big marriage ceremonies and all that fluff as a whole, maybe a small symbolic one between me and my partner, plus a dozen or two dozen close friends and relatives.
Thorum is a company that makes really pretty looking rings that stand out from the generic diamond and silver, using materials like various wood, unconventional metals including ones found in meteors etc.
Those kinds of rings are vastly more appealing imo.
Though of course, one you design or make yourself will outshine them all.
The real gem is the content you make.
You just wrote the comment of the month.
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Damn that was smooth
As a jewelry salesman, I actually love lab diamonds. People still max out their budgets when buying lab, they just buy a larger diamond than if they were getting natural. And I get about twice the profit margin 😁
you support slavery
also the phrase “Crucible forged gem” goes way harder than “Lab grown”
As a Russian diamond engineer I can say that this video is overall true and well made. The only thing that is shown poorly and feels underappreciated is the actual polishing part of the rough stone. It's a very complicated process and a true work of art by a skilled cutter.
“Russian Diamond Engineer” would be a badass LinkedIn title
bro is making diamond laser guns to take over ukraine
@@arm4146 Ah yes, racism, it’s everywhere! Blame the citizens!
Fun little story about these lab grown diamonds. While I studied for my bachelor in physics I was involved in a group working with Nitrogen-vacancy CVD-diamonds. Not just can laboratories grow diamonds, they can be grown with certain defects in them which allow them to have spectroscopic effects and emit light when excitated by a laser. Someone in the lab paid for growing two of these diamonds and proposed with them. So he got a diamond that literally shines brighter than these blood diamonds.
Or you could just buy a moissanite for a tenth the price of a normal lab diamond that also shines brighter.
@@Jake-bt3fcBro you don't understand what moissanite is. Reread the comment. He literally bought what you're saying to buy.
Rings are stupid. Money should not be a limiting factor in a marriage.
@@runed0s86 Diamonds are carbon. Moissanite silicon carbide. Don't call your moissanites diamonds, lol. Just call it what it is and don't be ashamed of it.
Now as anniversary gift, she should give him laser cats 🐈 🐈 ✨
@@Jake-bt3fcmoissanite is actually more expensive than an equivalent lab diamond now. Within the last 6-9 months the lab diamond price has collapsed and it will continue to decrease for the foreseeable future which is awesome.
I love the completely different reaction between a diamond owner and an actual diamond expert 😂
Edit: Was actually a diamond seller so was probably payed to say that 😞
Same as anything else. Movies, diamonds, collectibles. Experts will usually have a different reaction than the random owner. Think of all the people on pawn stars who come in with "something really special" only to be told "yeah man it's a reproduction from like 10 years ago."
@@SECONDQUEST pawn stars are encouraged to heavily undercut the patrons, then resell with double the price what the patron was asking for in the first place
The cognitive dissonance ain't gonna gaslight itself.
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A diamond is just a chunk of carbon so it’s not that valuable
Fun fact, an easy way to tell if your diamond is a Canadian non-conflict diamond just put a black light to it. Seems that an asteroid decided that nuclear war style energy release was a good idea at some point and now there traces of tritium in northern Canadian diamonds that glow under black light.
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TLDR: Minecraft lied to us. In real life, gold is much more valuable than diamonds, because you can't farm it.
A diamond sword/pickaxe would be more effective than a gold one if you could actually make a diamond that large in real life.
@@darthwoody9917no, it would just shatter, like glass; and gold would bend. Both would be terrible materials for these tools in reality.
@@marcopeterson805Diamond tipped pickaxe would work though.
To be fair gold value for the vast majority of human history has basically been completely arbitrary and the same thing as diamonds where people liked it because it's shiny. We do now have actual like functional uses for gold like in electronics and measuring equipment and shit. And I do think I guess there's some kind of use for some type of diamond for tools but I don't think it's the same kind of diamond that we're talkin about when we talk about jewelry.
@@marcopeterson805diamond seem like they could be good for grinding purposes, being super hard and all
It’s ironic that synthetic, virtually molecularly perfect diamonds are almost common and used for practical purposes like industrial applications for cutting and drilling as well as coating industrial instruments and the imperfections of natural diamonds are what make them worth something in our society.
You might even say the value of diamonds is completely made up and arbitrary.
@@DucasoWell yeah, because it is.
The imperfections only became a selling point as part of a marketing campaign that ‘natural diamonds are better’ before industrial diamonds became common natural diamonds were more valuable the less imperfections they had
@@deeznoots6241 Oh, cool. I was unaware of that.
Yet most people can't tell them apart from cubic zirconia
As a machinist, I have a high value in diamond when I'm cutting copper and abrasive phenolic materials.
I proposed with a lab grown gem. My partner specifically asked for an ethical gem. And it was over twice as large and twice as pretty than any "natural" diamond I could ever hope to afford. I (and her) make sure to tell everyone it's lab grown
Just as an aside, the part of Africa shown at 5:23, while indeed named Rhodesia, was only named that after 1965. Before that, it was named Southern Rhodesia and represented about a third of the territory that bore his name. Northern and Southern Rhodesia comprised the countries that are now Zimbabwe and Zambia, along with smaller portions of modern Botswana and Malawi. Truly, the legacy of the man's wealth and power was absolutely enormous and many of the issues that confront these modern states were borne out of decisions that were made in his name. When you named him 'Britains Biggest Arsehole' you weren't wrong. Excellent video:)
You are correct. Also Rhodesians never die.
So essentially...... the British are to blame for giving us the environment that created Elon Musk
His influence lingers to this day through things like the Rhodes Scholars. He imposed his will on that region of Africa as well after death through the “Round Table” movement and “Milner’s Kindergarten”. Even the brief Wikipedia entries are very illuminating but Carrol Quigley has 2 very in depth books on the subject. President Bill Clinton also happened to shout out Carrol Quigley as he was his professor at Georgetown. Bill Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar, odd that.
@@KaiserCeaser Well, I don't see those so-called "Rhodesians" on the map anymore :)
Also, the state of Rhode Island is named after him, which -- although not true -- is very shocking
When I was a kid in the 90s, I was digging/breaking up through a piece of charcoal and found a tiny diamond. My young brain was just like, “oh, I guess there’s little crystals in every piece of charcoal”. It wasn’t till later that I learned diamonds, come from Coal, but I realized I actually found a real diamond in a piece of charcoal and just threw it away
If you were digging and breaking up chunks of actual coal then it's certainly possible. Living in a coal rich part of the states and having had generations of miners in the family, it certainly does happen. Charcoal, however, is basically what's leftover after burning wood either by say throwing a log in a fire then scaping off the ash or more commonly burning the wood over a longer period of time at a lower temp in a dirt mound or something similar.
The average artistic pencils has some kind of small sparks every now and then. I already knew by then those are microscopic diamonds but if you where to tell me I could find a tiny chunk like yours in coal I would had been more obsessed with finding one one day!😊 Don't frown because you've toss it smile because you've found it🎉
Gretha Thurnburg: *How DARE you!?*
You can't find diamonds in *charcoal*. Charcoal is formed by burning wood in an oxygen-poor environment.
You won't find diamonds in regular coal either: Diamonds can be formed out of any carbon source, like carbonate rocks. But coal typically hasn't been subjected to the pressures required to create diamonds.
If you find sparkly bits in graphite they are more likely other minerals like quartz.
@@entcraft44 cool thanks
As an ex jeweler I can confidently say that diamonds are a scam. As pointed out in the video they are way overpriced, and in my personal opinion boring. The only interesting ones are the colored diamonds as you can get them in all manner of colors but people want the plane blank ones.
its always great to have the real truth of diamonds spoken yet again. its crazy that 90 precent of people i meet think diamonds actually are rare and have value
Your format still remains one of the best these years later. I just wish they came out more frequently
Same. But we have to understand his videos demand a lot of time and research to make
Quality > quantity any day
@@robertanton7566 and money, don't forget the budget
He posts more then jontron and jontron aint what he used to be.
Quality over quantity
There are two types of people, those who think diamonds are forever,
and those that think diamonds are bollocks.
Give me a random pebble over a diamond any day
Is prefer amethyst to a diamond, least amethyst looks good
@@Tickerchicken Yeah, a lot of gems actually have colour to them, giving MUCH more appeal.
And then those that think diamonds are for saw blades. ;)
I prefer sapphires
I honestly didn't know Lab growing was a thing nowadays. I mostly knew of synthetic diamonds being achieved through the use of gigantic Cubic Presses that could generate the pressure needed for synthetic diamonds. That is pretty cool! Can't say i am surprised to hear there is a concerted effort to give "Natural" diamonds some mystical quality to make it appear as "better". That is a old trick straight out of the Pharmaceutical handbook where brands like Bayer try to convince you Aspirin is better than acetylsalicylic-acid tablets sold by generic brands. The kicker being that its the exact same molecule crammed in a calcium tablet...
If I was ever gonna get a ring for someone, it'd be custom made of Rhodium and Palladium, two of the most rare and expensive precious metals on earth and the universe as a whole. Where diamonds turn into CO2 if heated, a metal atom will always be a metal atom unless it undergoes a nuclear reaction. Palladium and Rhodium never tarnish, just like my love for whoever I'm getting the ring for may be. But that's just my random opinion :)
And, in a pinch, you can do coupling reactions with it!
(Ok maybe don't try that but palladium does get used an awful lot in various coupling reactions between carbon atoms in the lab)
My wife wanted a lab made one; not because she cares about conflict diamonds; but because I could get a larger one for her for what I would have spent on a real one and no one can really tell at a glance 😂
A diamond is a diamond.
At a glance, you can't tell the difference between glass and a diamond. Lab grown and mined up ones only have one difference: it takes an expert with a microscope to look for flaws. Flawed ones are mined from the earth. That's it.
Most people would struggle to tell the difference even with training if they didn't have the equipment to test it with
Even at more than a glance, nobody will know the difference. Give 99% of people an hour and a microscope and they won't know which one is which
@@1234bobfoxyou can actually have flawed lab diamonds too. The flaws are caused by the quality of the mould used to produce the diamond. Basically, you pay extra for them to shape and clean the mould 😄
"Me, a guy who stopped studying chemistry before losing his virginity" - I had no idea he's been studying chemistry for so long. Must be working on his post-doc by now.
Fantastic video. Great research, love the fact that you went out and interviewed professionals and saw the lab grow process for yourself. Can't wait to see how this channel grows in the future.
"What's in the solution that makes it a diamond solution?"
"Diamonds."
I love the direction you are taking these videos, using some budget to actually go out and meet with the subject of the video adds a lot of meat to the videos. They keep getting better 💪
to be fair, he wasn't really allowed to leave the house for a couple of years recently
*Flies to Japan for literally no reason*
"Ok this video is way over budget"
*When you need an excuse to visit Akihabara*
When you need a tax write off
Did you get to see the Yokohama Gundam? It's close to Yamashita Park, which is next to the world porters mall and the landmark tower mall.
I am studying journalism and I can just hope to aspire to your level some day. Your videos are amazing and I can't help to admire and wonder how you het your inspiration, your themes, your info and the time to all this plus the editing. Keep up the amazing work man!
Gotta love the actual scientist going "theyre just rocks, lol"
IDEA FOR A BOND FILM: A bunch of warlords form a criminal organisation to protect their income from conflict diamonds and only Bond can stop them from destroying Cardiff. I don't think there's been a Bond film set in Wales... but maybe there should be.
The movie Blood Diamonds comes pretty close, has Dicaprio
I found a wild Jago in the comments section:)
The name's Bond ... Jooones the Bond ... Dabble ooh sevannn
Not saying the quality of his videos has been poor. Quite the contrary he puts out exceptional work. That being said this video knocks everything he’s done recently out of the water. This is transcendent.
Dude, super happy you're closing in on 1M. With this great quality it was only a matter of time.
As a one-time apprentice watchmaker who went on to have several jewelry businesses and get deeply involved in the world of cutting / faceting gemstones and then jewelry wholesale markets, .... Diamonds and the associated bling economy are one of the most dumbfounding things I've ever been a part of.
In my late twenties I moved on and evolved to focus more on the world of engineering and metrology. So I've been around a lot of different types of industry... But the jewelry markets remain one of the most bewildering and disorienting experiences I've had
How?
because...?
Guessing you were on the selling side. Not the making side.
Anyways, go get yourself a raw diamond and cut in a way that makes it shine. You can't, I can't. That's you paying for. Your paying an artisan for precision work. It's going cost.
People love to spend on things they are told it's difficult to acquire.
Why?
Because spending money is their only source of serotonin. They literally have nothing but family that hates them but still need to maintain and money to burn.
Sounds like a massive humble brag and probably not true.
Honestly, I'd take something amethyst or sapphire any day of the week. I've seen some really pretty synthetic sapphire gems before.
Cecil Rhodes: the guy who played factorio in real life and won.
You found the perfect balance in your script writing. Weighing the facts with a perfect amount of jokes sprinkled in. Well done. Been subbed since 20k and happy to see the growth!
Just wanted to say, I really appreciate as a viewer you going out your way to go to IRL locations and talking to the real experts. Makes the video much more professional and interesting to watch :)
I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to see you and Jacob Geller playing dance dance revolution together, absolutely heart warming
You sure that's Jacob? Doesn't look like him to me.
I really don't think that's him
@@plosonen Yeah, it definitely isn't. OP is blind as a fucking bat lol.
if you mean the guy at 8:34 tats not jacob...
I was also hoping it would be Jacob but I don't think it's him 😢
Bro out here dodging having to buy his wife a diamond ring. Smart move.
My wife actually wanted a lab one because she didn’t want to get potential conflict diamonds. She cared more about the platinum ring than the stone itself.
Oh, I was confused when you said diamonds are worthless. But then I realized that where I work we see diamonds on the tips of cutting blades more than on coworkers' fingers. If you can figure out how to measure your girl's finger (simple calipers work fine) just make a ring for her. It means way more that way
Diamond blades are expensive af and they basically just have diamond powder. Not big chunks of it like carbide.
This video brought back memories from my job interview at the Debeers diamond factory. they had tonnes of leaflets apologizing for conflict diamonds and making out the kimberly process iradicated conflict diamonds and starved the rebels of funds so much they all retained as building contractors or some crap...
The Koh-i-Noor isn't in the Imperial State Crown. It's in the crown of Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother. A crown that Elizabeth II never wore. It would've been worn by Queen Camilla had it not been so controversial. Even though, as you say, it's been stolen half a dozen times and according to the Indian government it was a gift to Queen Victoria "as compensation for help in the Sikh Wars. The Koh-i-Noor is not a stolen object".
If you want a diamond then buy a moissanite - you get a far wider range of colours & also a much better 'sparkle' from them for far far cheaper. They are 100% the better gemstone, the only difference is they are approx 98% as hard as a diamond is which makes them only the second hardest gemstone after diamonds (and look way better than them)
I'm starting to think this Ordinary Things bloke might have raised his budget and production value at some point
I've never understood why people are so obsessed with diamonds... Thiers not rare, they're not that pretty and they all look the same. But as a space nerd I absolutely LOVE gold! Just the fact that gold is formed by the intense shockwave only a kilonova or 2 colliding neutron stars can achieve is just mind-blowing to me! Having a ring or on you and knowing that it was formed in such insane hostile conditions is just really nifty!
And gold is quite useful unlike diamonds.
@@enderblazex2718 diamonds are actually fairly useful in industrial machinery because of their hardness and durability, often being used in cutters and grinders. They are so fine that they don't look like diamonds though.
@@lunathecutest6652 Yes, but that's pretty much that.
Its the power of marketing
@@deeznoots6241 And female brains susceptibility to that marketing.
Just to be clear, at 17:10, the context is he's explaining to the inmates what they might get executed for, and that includes looting and rape of locals.
the real gem is the friends we made along the way
now we just need someone to take the diamonds he makes from him so he can get the real diamond miner experience lol
I know I'm going to learn a lot and laugh a lot when I see a new Ordinary Things upload, always a joy to watch.
Social conditioning and FOMO
I love how the quality and edit of these videos keep going up throughout the years. 🎉
I like how he translated Prigozhin's phrase "it's strongly prohibited to engage to an non-consenting sexual contacts with women, men, flora or fauna" as an appeal for sexual violence
You should make a video about the history of onions
i like seeing how this channel has grown good job x
“They arnt that shiny, AND YOU CANT EVEN SMOKE EM” THC diamonds dabs are amazing if that’s what he means
This was really interesting, like all your videos! I just wish they were more frequent, but I understand that quality takes time. Thanks for your content 😊
That was actually the best incogni ad I've viewed. They're very fond of sponsoring CZcams vids but most the CZcamsrs I've seen just read the basic copy and leave me with no idea how it bloody works. Your ad actually has me slightly tempted. Shame I blew all my money on diamonds and dance dance revolution in Yokohama.
That last line was the best diamond commercial I’ve ever heard.
"Can't even smoke 'em." Nile Red would beg to differ!
02:37 Cool that you never stopped studying chemistry
1:52 Amazing to see a diamond seller actually admit out loud that, “There is no secondary diamond market.”
I think he said there's no such thing as a second-tier diamond
@@csuki nope, the guy said "theres no such thing as a second hand diamond, a diamond is a diamond and its forever"
That's not remotely what they said...
I don't know why you are using quotation marks when you aren't quoting, but instead inventing a quote with very different meaning
They were saying that all diamonds, no matter how old, are new, because they don't wear out.
Conflict diamonds prove the existence of a secondary market
@@HALLish-jl5mocan you point out which part was misquoted?
@@fireballdick Real quote: "There's no such thing as a second hand diamond"
Misquote: "There's no secondary diamond market"
The first quote means that diamonds aren't damaged in use. Unlike a car, which can be second hand by virtue of being used, a diamond that's been owned by thousands of people is just as good as the day it was first cut. All diamonds are as good as new.
The second quote means you can't resell them. Which is an absurd proposition.
“Diamonds are forever” hits the same as “Brawndo…it’s what plants crave”
My wife proposed to me with a beautiful two-tone wooden ring with a titanium band down its centre. Now we have matching two-tone wooden rings with chrysocola centre bordered by titanium. They are prettier than any diamond ring I've ever seen.
I give all of my casual acquaintances lab grown diamonds. Usually when we're in sweaters, but not always.
Id recommend Opal for anyone looking for gemstones. Much is mined by local miners who live in distant towns throughout Aus. Give them some coin, poor buggers live a hard life. I'm a dude and i recently got myself a pair of round boulder opal earrings for a fair price at around $440. One is a mix of blues and a few touches of green , the other is mixed with red and purple and blue, they're gorgeous, the colour reminds me of space. But they do require a bit of care since they're a fragile gemstone.
Also phenomenal vid as per usual, keep up the awesome work
I'm very impressed by the production value and quality of your content. These channel's videos have improved exponentially. Keep up the good work!
one of my favorite channels!! truly awesome stuff, love the radical style, yet so informative and truthful! Also love you on incognito mode, you're my fav cohost for sure!
I worked for a short time i the Antwerp diamond sector and I can tell you that it is all very shady. Almost all companies are located or have links in Dubai. It's impossible to find information about them and to control them. Of course it could be possible with stronger regulations, but the local regulators don't want to lose their little area of (questionnable) income and prestige.
Its like working in a pawn shop, there are supposed to be all sorts of safeguards to prevent unethical practices but those that are followed are inadequate and the rest are just ignored industry wide.
I love the cinematography, it really feels like you always improve your videos. Although I appreciate it be sure to not burn out.
i walk the walk. when my partner gave me a diamond i asked for a fake version and for the difference to go to an animal charity. i'm very lucky because he 100% understood, and just thought it was amusing how i'm always gonna be me, no matter how much other people crumble in the face of money or "prestige".
This is a topic I was sure he was either saving or avoiding, it just fits his channel so well. Glad to know he was saving it for when he could fucking make one for himself. Best informative channel on CZcams. As long as he keeps making content, I will continue watching it as soon as I can.
Ah,some more amazing content from my favorite British bastard! Hope you're doing well man.
An ordinary things AND Emp lemon vid on the same day?!
Okay, but having a wedding/ engagement ring with a twisted metal band securing a rough diamond would look so cool if done right
I have to say, I really appreciate the sources being shown on screen rather than being hidden in some google doc or right down the bottom of the description or worse yet, not shown at all
"Babe, it's time, he's uploaded"
My favorite real world lore channel ❤😊
You really stepped it up with this one, great work
Still consistently my favorite yt channel, i never thought i would like to hear someone literally explaining ordinary things to me.
The joke is that everything ordinary has a background of awful history until it's normalized.
You’re genuinely doing important work, this is real journalism
Missed you man. I’m a major fan of your work. Now I can’t wait to watch this while eating a bowl of cereal ❤
Dr stone manga actually illustrates how to make man made diamonds.
From the creators of how to make a pipe bomb introduces how to make a diamond staring ordinary things.
I've been waiting, he's back 😭😭
I now Know how to make a monopoly With only minor child labor.
"So what's in the solution that makes it a diamond solution?"
"...diamonds?"
fuck that got me
I am old enough to watch this happen in the 80s, but didn't realize it wasn't normal. As far as I could tell, those comercials were just telling us how things are.
I am actually shocked to learn this.
Absolute Bitrate crime at 22:10
oh my god
4:45 I've said it once, and I'll say it again: never trust a door-to-door salesman. If they can make it in that cut-throat business, they're the biggest cut-throat of them all.
how dare that guy hire mercenaries to kill people who try to kill him and pay with diamonds? utterly scandalous!
Even though it’s been years. I am glad that I found your channel again.
Diamonds are cringe. I proposed to my girl with a custom made meteorite ring. We didn't work out, but I'm still proud to have made something unique for her without feeding a corrupt market.
Meteorite ring sounds cool and looks cool (at least from google images)
@@Z.O.M.G They are. I worked closely with a professional ring maker to make it.