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they are beginning now to sell actual flying drones with chairs... they are about 100k... theyre not automated yet but they should be... it would be much easier to automate them than anything on the ground
@@janthran No way? We had no idea! So cool! Thanks for letting us know. Literally none of us have access to the largest repository of knowledge in human history so we're lucky to have people like you to fill us in.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow in 2k22 internet is a censored garbage bin. During "dystopian, oppressive, censored soviet" times my father used to go to the public library to take fresh ГОСТ standard for free because: it is the standard, you know. Nowadays, just try to take something like ATX, PCI or just soldering class Standard like IPC-it is all paid and there is always an excuse to be paid even for ГОСТ made in Uzbekistan. So, nowadays internet is just a huge marketing dumpster full of hopeless shiteaters. It was a lot more easier to take a publication that did it in my university than download it: he didn't get paid if I would paid for publication to "elsevier". Just imagine public library full of free newspapers from local supermarket, rewritten books of the same book for around 10 times, manuals like "how to make shit without taking off your sweater" and everything else censored or paid by ridiculous amount of monet to buy a cat in the bag.
Back in high school, some friends of mine went "fishing" for these scooters in a local lake, tore them apart and built a shopping cart chariot out of the parts which still worked.
By far my favorite experience with one of these things is when I was in the Navy a Chief got a DUI on one of these things. My CO made this man give a speech to the entire squadron explaining this and to this day it is one of the funniest things I was not allowed to laugh at.
@@emmetcoyne6436 there's nothing really memorable what he said, he was definitely just making it up as he went along. A lot of "I was an idiot, don't make the same mistakes I did, etc." kind of stuff.
As an intoxicated person who has used these many times in Berlin I do like them on the weekends, when I'm drunk, just missed my connection and don't want to wait another 30 minutes to cheerfully puke in my own toilet. However, as someone who has ridden many dangerous vehicles like (motor)bikes, skateboards and your mum I'd say these things are the most dangerous. The tiny wheels with the relatively wide steering makes these things into an unstable mess.
Yes, they can turn off when you're riding them. Voi recently pulled out of Birmingham, but I did use one while they were here. While going through the underpass under the Bullring shopping centre, it detected that I was in a pedestrian zone (I wasn't, I was on a road that was *under* a pedestrian zone) and cut out - in front of a bus.
I work delivery in one of the big danish cities and yeah...the amount of people that dont have their shit in order is high, but add in fuckery of that nature and things just....nooooo.....once tried one of the electric bicycles and they are equally fucked
Correction: Xiaomi scooters are not powered by just efficient lithium ion batteries, they are also powered by the data they farm from you because all of the features are tied to their phone app.
uga uga me rebellious throw battery in watta uga uga me so against capitalism hehehe so smart yes yes I swear most of these people trying to safe the planet by throwing lithium ion batteries into oceans etc must be the worst caveman moment we have seen till this day
@@Stormsolid to be fair, a scooter that only lasts like 3 months in public use is gonna create a ton of e-waste even if it doesn’t get thrown in the ocean
Literally nearly had my scooter stolen yesterday. A group of kids kicked me off my e scooter at fullwhack knocking me clean unconscious. I'm grateful to the people who helped me and got the guys caught. Suffered a broken jaw and a few broken teeth. Not the best experience.
The problem with the scooters is the same as the problem with bicycles in the USA: our cities are not built for them and people have zero respect for other people's property. If you leave it in public it will be stolen and/or vandalized.
@@tippyc2 I pay $1650 (per bedroom, two bedroom) for a nice remodeled unit in a great neighborhood two blocks from the water. This city is more expensive than I would like, of course, but I knew what I was getting into and I am compensated accordingly.
@@tippyc2 nailed that comment, dudes a fool 1650 a month for one bedroom it's a two bedroom he shares rent cost with someone to survive and its 4500 and I bet that doesn't include his internet 100 water gas electric say 300 cause commiefornia then your cell bill minimum 60 a month bet he leases his phone so like another 50 on top then all the food cost boy oh boy seems like even without food cost and my generosity on how low I assume certain Bill's are there for "clean" energy (totally not supplemented with nuclear or coal or gas plants because solar is intermittent and so is wind and tidal generating methods
Well the problem here is with RENTAL scooters. If everyone just owned them you'd have none of the issues. But they do have to go much longer distances before they're going to be adopted en masse in the USA
My city in Eastern Europe is one of the pioneers of this idea and it's fucking horrendous. There's scooters piled up everywhere, they get stuck under snowplows, they block streets...
I'm a radiographer. There was guy who had injured himself while intoxicated with an e-scooter (first e-scooter accident I scanned). Some cab driver had found him laying in the streets. He had a big epidural hemorrhage in his brain and they had to open and remove a part of his skull to save his life.
I get that there was way too many scooters, but I find it more messed up that hundreds of people filmed themselves throwing alternative transportation into the ocean
Yeah shit pissed me off, whats funny is I bet plenty of the people who did that shit are probably the same people who say we need to take care of our environment and stop climate change
Biggest issue it seems is the cities that have taken to attempting to use them is they have no solid infrastructure to handle them being used (no proper cycle lanes) Having recently visited Stockholm it was honestly amazingly useful to have them everywhere, the city is progressive towards electric vehicles and was built for cycling it seems, had no issues with them and travelled all around the city with no problems
This is about it aint it, coming back to this vid after Not Just Bikes’ stuff on YT makes me think: “yeah theyre just not made for the car dependent infrastructure that about all of the western world have pigeonholed themselves into” lol
I agree, I used the Birds to get around Rome a couple of months ago. We would find ourselves in the midst of traffic creating dangerous situations because we had to cross 2 lanes of cars to make a turn. Coming from the Netherlands, I’m also really used to using my hands as turn signals. Trying this on a scooter while driving 25 km/h on a cobblestone road and looking over your shoulder to make sure you’re not getting flattened by Italian drivers is a perfect way to get rid of unwanted teeth. The added sense of danger and recklessness did made it extra fun though. Edit: Shout out to Not Just Bikes, he’s opened my eyes to a lot of things to be grateful for that most Dutch people not only take for granted but don’t even notice.
Europe is full of cycle roads. You should visit America. Even in their " most advanced city" new York there's about 6 bike roads. Half of those are only around parks. The average American drives to the park even if it's only 5 minutes from their house. Saw it myself. Giant obese woman, kids and all. Didn't want to walk less than 5 min. The concept of biking to places is unknown to them
I feel like there's two points that could have been mentioned in the vid: 1) The program that Lime had where you could pay a set amount of cash to 'own' one of their scooters and get a cut of all the rides on it, then after a period of time you had the option to either purchase it for yourself or it just became your property automatically (I can't remember, the idea was so ludicrous that I couldn't get to the end without laughing). A fantastic way to lose money and get a 6 months of constant wear-and-tear scooter for yourself afterwards. 2) The promo codes for rollout of new cities were not region locked. If somebody from, say, Barcelona, scouted some free unlocks or ride promo codes and sent them out globally, everyone could participate. Before Lime realized and started locking the codes out, people would get a good couple of hours for free. Because y'know, it's 2020, we haven't exactly figured out how that internet thing works yet.
I think it's telling that the biggest problems with scooters (them being left all over the place and used unsafely) is more a problem with people than the scooters themselves.
No, when the herd doesn’t like something we aren’t supposed to just accept it. It is natural that we reject it with primitive displays. Unless you see our base nature as a problem, but that does seem pretty common with the amount of delusion flying around social media.
@Herkimer Snerd The property of the big companies? That's not the societal concern, it's the disrespect for the environment. And I don't just mean in an 'environmental' sense, though that is very important too. I'm talking about how people have to live around the junk/mess people make. I wouldn't even call it that societal, just fucking stupid. Like they aren't smart enough to think one step ahead about the consequences for their actions. But it is American... Not all countries are better, but quite a few are much more intelligent/respectful. I was in Norway recently and it was great. They even had e-scooters that were just being used properly.
Agreed. The scooters are fine. they are not really the problem. Some people are respectful. It's important to mention that not all riders are the same...
What I hate about E Scooters is the fact that people just leave them anywhere without thinking of others. The amount of times I've seen them dumped on walkways/curbsides. They end up blocking access for individuals with physical disabilities at times. But in the end it's down to human beings thinking of others and doing the right thing... people just want to get from point A to B real quick, once there dump their stuff in the sidewalk off you go!! They're a blight tbh
That's where you are wrong. That's not on the scooters. They are just a tool. That's on the uncultured, disrespectful, individualist riders fault. individualism is mostly manifests among Americans who think the world revolves around them. It's not just scooters, they don't care about others. Talking loudly on the public transport, banging Bluetooth speakers, I even witnessed dozens of Americans leaving their shopping cart in the parking lot amidst cars after they were done packing into their own car. This doesn't happen in a cultured society where there is emphasis on collectivism. Look at Japan or Europe. I am European and always was raised to think about others. Whatever I do. That means always sitting on the inner seat of the bus, letting others use the other one, minding where my shopping cart is at all times, being quiet etc. I drive a scooter as well but I always mind where it's parked. Always out of the way and minding others. Do not blame the tool. Blame the people using them. It's about being cultured and not an asshole.
@@CaptainPupu pretty sure that's the point I was implying in the first place. Human beings not thinking of others, dumping these tools in walkways & not thinking of others bar themselves.
@@CaptainPupu Conflating 'being raised properly to respect others' with 'collectivism' is a pretty hot take. You know what it takes to raise someone right? Parents, guardians, and teachers focusing on them as an individual. Some might even call that an 'individualist' approach. Don't get me wrong, you're absolutely right that most Americans are uncultured and disrespectful, but that's a problem caused by the degenerate urban environments of our major cities, which spills out into the suburbs like a plague. And you know what perpetuates that urban degeneracy? Sending children to dilapidated public schools where there are 30+ students for every 1 un-fireable unionized 'teacher' who barely managed to get a liberal arts degree. That, my friend, is 'collectivism' in its worst form: dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
@@CaptainPupu Its really annoying as an American to see how inconsiderate this country as become. I live were some ppl will still hold a door for you if your entering behind them, but on occasion I've had ppl let it close in my face.
Here in germany it was a mostly positive experience to me. They're useful for the last mile between bus/trainstop and your destination and only cost 1-3€ for the trip. And generally people parked them in spots where they aren't bothering anyone. I guess it helps having the city designed with bicycle traffic in mind. In terms of the amount of scooters, it seemed to be just the right amount. I've rarely seen more than 2-3 at a location.
As a Canadian who has the EXACT same experience, I think we're seeing a case of "Americans think the rest of the world acts like they do". Majority of everywhere that has had these installed outside of the USA has been absolutely great. If anything, Lime's becoming a very good bar at seeing how terribly selfish a population is.
Do they venture on the autobahns? Where I drive the speed limit is strictly 90 kmh, and cameras on every lamppost. I have to stick to 90 (alright, 100 to make for untaxable margin) - but these dudes on scooters have no number tags and they don't follow any speed limits. And the law says, if the scooter flying at 120kmh rear ends my car, I'm liable for a pedestrian accident. Nice. Really nice. Just imagine what they would do on German autobahns.
@@jmi5969 Pretty sure those things max out at something like 20kmh, and as such are not allowed on the autobahn. There is a minimum speed limit of 60kmh. Not sure how liable you are if you hit some hapless idiot venturing onto the autobahn tho.
@@MrAntiKnowledge Even a wimpy 5KW motor can easily propel a lightweight rider to 100 kmh. The kids that pass me on the freeway are more into 10KW or even 2*10KW range. That's real motorcycle territory... on 4-inch wheels.
It really pains me to see those things getting destroyed like that. Don't get me wrong, although the concept is good in theory, the execution and the companies are horrible... But it's sad to see how much we take for granted high tech objects. The lithium had to be mined, transformed, built into a battery (sometimes in unethical ways), the electronics contains numerous precious metals and a lot of toxic stuff too. Yet here we are, with precious ressources going from mines to trash poisoning the environment in only a few months. What a shame
I see it as a good thing to disencourage these dumb stop gap solutions to real problems before more unethical resourses are spent on it. Its like burning up a store that sells products made by slave labour, it migh disencourage any company from using slave labour afterwards.
Who cares lmao, if you love the environment so much go build a boat and start scooping plastic out of the ocean. You won't tho, you will just complain online.
It's a shame that all of these things (batteries etc) went into shitty products that don't last in the first place - and that's even not considering deliberate trashing of it
They temporarily banned them here in miami and now have implemented all these new rules, you can only go 10 mph on sidewalks and you have to wear a helmet. I can’t imagine tourists carrying around their own helmets tho so idk how that’s gonna work lol
Imagine tourists (or anyone for that matter), riding them without a helmet, just tapping the "Yes, I am wearing a helmet" button, without actually doing that. No one would do that. Definitely not where I'm from, where helments are mandatory (at least I think they are).
My sister and her friend once attempted to use them in Krakow, Poland. They scooted from the scooter parking to their destination, but once they got there, they found out that it was illegal to park scooters there. That it was only legal to park them in that one spot from which they began their ride. Which means that they had to scoot back through the entirety of Krakow again, to get the scooters legally parked. Then, they just walked from the scooter parking to their destination, by foot. 🤷♀️
the problem is people are riding on sidewalks and crashing into people, and when they ride on the streets they are getting hit by cars.... bike infrastructure would have solved this...
I'll say the danger comes from a few things: 1) not being separated from other traffic. this is the same problems bicycles have had since the invention of the motor car which is they are too slow for roads but too fast for pavements. This could have already been solved by having segregated bicycle infrastructure the scooters were able to use. Car drivers in most cities are undertrained as it is in dealing with small fast moving objects like bicycles existing in their space as it is 2) unlike said bicycle where you start off slowish and gradually get faster as your fitness increases giving you time to adjust the electric scooters give you full speed straight away allowing anyone with a credit card and no braincells to access fatal speeds 3) Bicycles large wheels often mean they are able to ride over many smaller obstacles/ potholes that would otherwise throw scooter riders off 3) bicycle users generally own their bicycles and therefore are more cautious as it's their own property. they also tend to own the relevant safety equipment (i.e. a helmet) and tend to wear it as it makes sense to invest in a helmet if you ride everyday but it doesn't if you are a casual scooter user EDIT: My main point here was the E-scooter/ electric bicycle is absolutely a great option for the future of personal transport but it needs proper infrastructure to do their jobs. Something cyclists have been asking for years and now the powers that be have decided it's easier to just ban the "problem" than dismantle the cult of the automobile
In the UK in a small town where I live I see them about a fair bit... However they aren't treated badly because people are actually using them at reasonable speeds, and treating them well because it's their own scooter. Like with idiots doing wheelies on bycicles you have idiots trying to sit down on the scooters... Idiots are idiots, but because it's new it seems to attract more of them. Overall I'd say these things are safer. (from my experience using a scooter now and having used to ride a bycicle to work) Because you can easily bail out on a scooter, you can from my experience due to the small wheels be more nimble in areas you need to (flat pavements with lots of pedestrians). You can lock your speed to a certain limit (which is something I think the apps should do for the hire scooters, or scooters in general) so that you know in a crowded area you should always be going slow enough. I see it as these just having the same exact issues as Bycicles have, but due to the mass scale and availability these have come with it has only exaggerated those already existing issues.
Cities with proper bicycle infrastructure are fantastic with these scooters. They are a great way to do final mile transportation after taking public transport. Haven't had to take a taxi anywhere since they arrived.
I found e-scooters fun to ride in cities with paved roads. But in Europe, many of the city centers have setts, cobblestones or other stone pavements. Not only does this shake your organs into a smoothie, but thanks to the small wheels of e-scooters, any rough patch can launch you right into the stratosphere.
This comes from most e-scooters having absolutely no suspension, and mostly not even having air-filled tires. I have seen full-suspension scooters with cushy air tires, I couldn’t give you a link, but you might wanna research specifically that.
even worse if you don’t have good roads in your city, you can feel your organs being shaken or if you absorb the shock by crawling while riding, you can feel your legs numb
@@scanialover Lol same I can imagine them being problematic in colder countries with terrible roads. Kinda explains why they are not a thing in places that snow a lot.
As a lime juicer I ride them like a block or two back to my car when I pick them up. They are fun but given that we have to pick them up and drop them off every night to charge and that you have to have at least a mid sized vehicle to do so (I drive a minivan with a tow hitch) that whole green thing doesn't really hold a lot of water
That's true but to be fair America police now either hunt you down or start shooting so I guess they went for honey catches more Flys then salt approach
When the lockdown started, the busses in my hometown stopped running at 5. I worked until 530. Those scooters were my savior. That being said, it's still super obnoxious when they're just laying all over the sidewalk, especially in historic areas
The rental scooters laying on streets isn’t an unsolvable problem, actually. In the city I live in, you have to lock the scooter to somewhere available and then open the app and take a photo of it to prove you actually locked it. And I’d say it’s working just fine since I’ve never seen an unlocked or abandoned scooter so far.
Where I live the buses don't even exist. It's either car or you're screwed. You have to ride the scooter on sidewalks, as bike lanes don't exist either and the roads have traffic at up to 45mph
@@qqndetriste same in my town, you cant fucking just leave them around, they come with bike chains to lock em up. reducing vandalisim and just fucking scooters everywhere
Or some drunk ass just throwing it in front of your door on the sidewalk and you trip over it on a dark and icy morning. And it’s annoying that people bring them into supermarkets in rush hours taking up way to much space.
My father works in the hospital. They joke e-scooters were invented by an orthopedic surgeon who wanted more work. (you get a lot more complicated bone breakages than with bicycles with these, apparently you can see nice T-shaped indents on the patients from the handles, too)
During pre-Christmas revelries my cousin decided to go get pizza on a scooter. He came back with multiple breaks in his hand. The fall wasn't the problem, the handle fell on his hand.
@@themoviedealers Anesthesist and first responder. Man has seen som sh*t, you know you're dealing with doctors when you hear "oh the funniest suicide we had..." (FYI it was a lad who crushed his head under a hydraulic steelpress, he said the cause of death was very easy to determine)
I live in Zürich (the one in Switzerland), and while there aren't that many e-scooters (yet, there are a few rental companies), razor push-scooters are everywhere. The advantage of them is that they'll fold in the middle and you can take them on the public transport, which is excellent here. Huge numbers of people have one, and you'll see commuters on the tram with them under their arms. You can just hop off the tram at your stop, flip it open, and scoot off to your office block.
@@jemmytaveras bro how many electric motorcycles do you think exsist, plus the renting cost for those would be way higher than an ebike, not to mention the fact that motorcycles don't go into the bike lane?
Right before e-scooters, stockholm had a functional system called citybikes, with bus stop like stands where you scanned your card (30EUR/year) to unlock a bike, and to end the ride you had to lock it into another bus stop-like, clear channel bike stand. it was sponsored by the city and it was amazing
Here in the Netherlands they're banned for now. Just like dockless shared bicycles. We've a massive shared bike system called OV Fiets which is a last mile solution of the Dutch Railways. Shared moped scooters are okay though and are our e-scooter alternative to vandalize.
If you want to see the apocalypse in action, just go to Istanbul. Wherever you look, they are everywhere. Streets, sidewalks, poles, inside malls, in the bosphorus bridge. And they keep coming. They have now evolved to E-motorcycles and E-mopeds.
i never knew i need a documentary about e-scooters, but here i am. i feel like you could say that about most of this guys content. It's content you didn't know you needed, but you love it when you do.
To be fair cars are generally pretty shitty about treating pedestrians and bicyclists safely either. So basically if you cannot follow road rules for bikes and people walking and there is no real consequences they cannot handle scooters
I think the biggest problem with e-scoters is the fact that they are dumping too many of them on every sidewalk, plus as the video said since there is multiple companies competing against each other you have too may scooters and they start to pile up everywhere, people kinda treat them like trash and disposable when there's literal piles of them
my biggest problem with them is price. Just to start a ride you need to pay 1€ upfront and then smth like 20 cents every minute. If I take a ride that's 10 minutes I already paid 3€ which is even more than a simple bus ticket for twice the range. If I had to go 30 minutes with that thing, I'd pay more than a whole day ticket for the whole public transport in my city, which is insane.
Lime is still present in Hungary in many cities. The newest scooters are made of heavy, chunky bars of steel, weigh a lot and can top out at around 20-22 km/h. In my experience they are maintained well, they even have indicators, the coverage is acceptable. Non-scooter zones and parking spots/areas are changing sometimes as I discovered. The only thing that drive people away is the price and app-dependency. I took few rides to work and a one way 15 minute trip cost me 3x the money compared to going with my car. I only see the potential of rental scooters in busy capitals and tourist cities where they could provide an alternative to scheduled public transport.
I rode an e scooter for the first time after a concert last night. I was waiting for a $30 Uber along with everyone else and saw scooters littered all over a sidewalk. Picked one up without knowing how much it’d cost. Rode it 3 miles home and paid $12. 10/10 They’re fucking fun too.
@@TuriGamer It's sooo fun to destroy property, waste other peoples work and resources, throw trash into rivers and oceans and help bring down a company that provided jobs. So fun.
To be fair renting this type of transport is actually very convinient since you don't have to carry the escooter/ebike with you after travelling to a certain point and you can start the journey from any different point. They also have the potential to be environmentally friendly although both producers and user must act in accordance with that goal.
There are use cases for them, provided they are not vandalized, become more economical, more environmentally friendly, and their allocation is discussed in advance with city planning. 1. When the taxi, or uber, or bolt, or lyft are too expensive, or scarce, for short to medium trips these are ok. 2. Commuting from your home to a train / metro station. In my country, I cannot do this via bike, as if I leave my bike regularly for 4-6 hours parked, in the same metro station, for 2-3 days a week, it is a guarantee it will get stolen in the near future. Therefore, it is convenient to use the rented e scooter from your house to the metro station, and get another when you are back
I actually used to work for Lime in a certain California college town, and the majority of my time on the job was spent pulling waterlogged scooters out of the sand on the beach and cleaning up rows of parked scooters that people had knocked over. I loved working there, but the amount of people who thought it was fun to vandalize the scooters and/or throw them into the ocean because “they wouldn’t get caught” was really sad. On the bright side, I did learn to ride 5 scooters at once.
@@ProPrince I would stack them on top of one scooter, the bottom scooter would carry them all while I stood on top of the stack. Five was my limit because it was difficult to control the weight balance after that. If I was only riding two scooters I would ride both with one for each leg and using both throttles with each hand. I don't recommend trying it as there's so many ways it can go wrong (you can't use the brakes when riding like that) but it was so much fun lol.
Yooo I can do the 5 trick too 😎 nanobot ES4? More difficult with newer models. I did this to bring them back to my home to charge them while living in Wellington nz
@@alilallier5490 Ayyy nice I wish it was the Ninebot ES4s here, we had the model that came after the ES4s in my area known as the Lime Gen 2.5 scooters. They were about 6 lbs (3kg) heavier than ES4s and a lot thicker. Before I got hired to LimeOps I was also part of the juicer/charger program and I could only fit about 4 of the Gen 2.5s into my car vs. 7-8 ES4s, wasn't worth my time after that.
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One good thing about e-scooters: I think they made people realize how poorly fit our infrastructure is for anything but cars in most cities. Without protected bike lanes people will either ride in the street or on sidewalks, neither of which is a good solution for either biking or scootering
It would be interesting to get rid of bike lanes and just widen the sidewalk to fit bikes, scooters and pedestrians. Just require that pedestrians have the right of way and scooters and bikes are expected to slow down when passing.
@@monev really bad idea... a good idea would be to get rid of "car lanes" and expand public transportation, bike lanes and walkable districts... bike lanes are necessary even in walkable districts
bike lanes aren’t really a solution. Where I live there are a lot of bike lanes and bicycles either drive on the regular street side or on the sidewalk.
The scooters in the ocean reminds me, in brighton theres e bikes you can hire remotely with card deets to hop about to different bits of the city. Was on the beach there once, and a friend was gonna hire one to go home on. They opened the app, and the closest one to us, was 0.7miles from us, but straight out to sea, and the tide was pulling it further out, could see it getting further on the app. I found it absolutely hilarious ngl, but i think half of the amusement was that the tracker was still working 30 metres under the ocean
@@sellotape6475 I'm half an hours drive from Brighton. Not that crazy. A video with 630k views, and made by a Brit, meaning it likely to have a higher proportion of British viewers than other non-British creators. And a city with a population of 300k which is small as cities go. But in terms of pure numbers of people is a lot.
A veritable _tour de force_ delivered with style and wit. *Beautifully written and narrated: some of the finest prose on CZcams* Masterful use of humour: verbal, visual, contextual and often _laugh out loud_ funny. Been bingeing your videos since the first one I saw (on Gaia) and am seriously impressed. Superlative content - interesting, entertaining and informative. Thank you!
The first time I saw one of these I immediately began to wonder how many security features they have and how hard it would be to hotwire one or just remove their most expensive parts. I'm not a career criminal, just realistic about the kinds of challenges a business model like this must face.
Not to mention the bullet-proofing they have to put around the electrical components and battery. It astounds me that none of the scooters in the destruction montage caught fire.
having done something this questionable, the answer is that it is very possible but requires more electronics knowledge than the average person, so i doubt thats a huge issue.
I felt jealous at first, living in an area where these never came to be, but now I'm glad we don't have them. Lord knows, drivers and pedestrians are both already terrifying here from either perspective, so adding this probably would've upped the body count.
My college campus had tons of these when I started school, but they've pretty much all been replaced by rental bikes within 2-3 years. Drunk college students and electric scooters are a BAD combination, to say the least.
The problem this video it almost pushes the agenda that escooters are bad and they really aren't. Go watch some e scooter videos ones with a seat maybe or something. Watch actual riders riding them on youtube videos and not a clip of some idiot on a cheap shitty scooter falling over.
@BattyFlaps The batteries used in these Oriental deathtraps leave behind a noticeable amount of pollution as a byproduct of their creation process, and you can bet your very last buttered biscuit that the corpos cranking these contraptions out via assembly line process don’t always properly dispose of their hazardous waste. 😑
Here in Germany, E-scooters are heavily regulated by special laws like E-scooters only allowed to go up to 20 km/h (about 15 mp/h) , only allowed on car streets and bike lanes and they require a special insurance to be useable. Not following any of these will end up in a pretty hefty fine and sometimes even jail time. This comes from someone who owns a personal E-scooter.
Funny how most of these "alternate transport fads" could really be solved if we had built efficient cities in the first place. The dude was right with one thing though, cars are killing our cities. Not enough public transport and everything is built way too far away from one another.
Even without cars these would be great in theory. These give people a way to get around outside of pre determined paths, the biggest issue of public transit. They are very small so you can fit way more on the road. The scooters just need to be owned personally so you are more inclined to take care of them.
they still will be e-waste within a year or two of being made so I don't really get how they're "great". Just use a bike or your legs. Hopefully those will work for longer than 2 years.
I once heard a quote that goes something like this: “Ideas are nothing, execution is everything.” The e-scooter sounds good on paper, but the execution has been awful.
I think the main problem is with the people treating the scooters like trash. Another thing is that these big companies, and all these scooters being dumped out in cities are going to force these places to put more laws and regulations on scooters and ruin it for experienced private scooter owners like me who know what they’re doing.
I dunno, his handshake video made me feel it was an impotent attempt to rid the world of handshakes, because shaking hands with him must be like grabbing an eel by the tail end while it's trying to wriggle free from your grasp, all loose and slimy, and he just doesn't want handshakes being a part of the social norm, because he's always outed by them as being the salt avoiding snail that he is. Other than that, yeah, his videos are fantastic.
Lord the anxiety from just seeing people take those scooters on the highway, I'm anxious enough in my own car I can't imagine being on a flimsy scooter dodging trucks.
it so fun, dude you should try it) i ride mine 55km/h on the road with cars, i feel like a mad max everyday p.s. cheap ones really do fuck up your knees in 2-3 months, so consider double suspension
@@denisblack9897 coudnt you just glue some anti-stress foam on the top of the deck? that and riding with your knees slightly bent to act like a shock absorber for big bumbs.
I'm not a huge fan of these dockless e-scooters, but I also don't have much experience with them, especially since the whole category is effectively banned in the Netherlands. That being said, it does humour me to see photos of the "problem" of escooters which usually involves a handful of them clogging a 1 metre sidewalk ... with a six lane road for cars in the background. Apart from the effects of dumb VC money and environmental issues of their manufacturing, the majority of the "problems" with escooters comes down to them having to fight with pedestrians and cyclists over the scraps left over after basically all space in the city has been given over to motor vehicles. You mentioned it briefly at the end, but these scooters, or at least something like them, will continue to exist, and it's probably a good idea to find a way for them to fit in. For all of their flaws, they're still better for the city, in almost every category, than cars, so it's probably worth the trouble. I've referred to these before as "square peg vehicles", the kind of transportation options that exist in-between the options we design for. Whether the future of transport is an escooter, an ebike, a mobility scooter, or a Birò microcar, it's going to be something different than what we have today, so it's worth trying to find a way to make these square pegs fit in our cities. (I almost wrote, "fit in our round holes.") That being said, I really hope that the future of mobility is not "dumb money" VC-backed garbage mobiles.
They are supposed to solve the last mile problem. But they are the tech bro's solution - trying to reinvent the wheel and flooding the cities with unusable junk. A simple bike would do the job perfectly, but they just had to be different and techy. In cities with cobble roads/sidewalks like mine you cant use them at all. Also they are super expensive - I can rent an electric car for one trip for the same price. Huge fan of your content, btw.
From personal experience with e scooters in New Zealand. I actually love them as a far better alternative to busses in my city as during COVID the last place you want to be is in an overcrowded steel box which is at overcapacity and slow. The local government did an evaluation process and allowed 2 companies to operate within the city with a limited amount of scooters. There zones where the scooter has reduced speed and there zones where you are not allowed to park them and if you do it will cost u $10. One of the companies is local and the one I personally use. They have a subscription service which gives me perfect amount of runtime to get to work and back while being cheaper than catching a bus. And with the scooters being around for over a year now the population which rides them has become way more cautious and aware of pedestrian, but a lack of effective cycleways and an abundance of narrow footpaths is annoying and potentially dangerous. Also the scooters I use a very well desighned as they have suspension and a great weight distribution as well as great breaks. All of this results in great control and better safety for the rides and their surroundings. I cannot say the same for lime scooters which a @##@#£ danger to society as they have no suspension and a higher center of gravity than snoopdog and breaks that don't slow you down but rather make you skidd and they do not have electronic braking allowing you to reach speeds of 50kmh if not more depending how steep the downhill is. In conclusion e scooters are great when they are well desighned and well implemented with a considerate population.
I’ve used them a few times including in San Francisco before the ban. It was super fun and convenient to just hop on a scooter and scoot around and then drop them off at your destination. It really feels a niche that no other service provides. Zipcar for example is basically useless because you have to return the car from where you got it.
When bike rentals were banned in my home city, the Chinese company pretty much abandoned them on the street and left. People swiped them, painted over the logos and kept them. I did it as well. Free bike is a free bike.
These are actually amazing as a student or really anyone living in a small appartment within cities, dont need to struggle with parking, very nice for getting to and from uni as well as shopping. Also takes nearly no room inside.
I'm feeling this now since I got one after my bike got stolen from the public rack Fuck the cities, having reliable transport shouldnt be this hard to sort out.
I rode one of these for the first time recently and I hated it. I believe the branding was Lime(?). The throttle kept getting stuck so it would randomly try to get away from me when I stopped. I constantly felt like I was going to fall over. I was so tense that I swear my muscles ached far more than they would have if I'd walked. I felt like I had to apologize to everyone I got within 10 feet of. I absolutely had tears in my eyes when we finally stopped. 0/10 will never complain about my feet hurting on a walk ever again. The only good thing was we did, indeed, get where we were going faster, but I'd rather there were just better infrastructure and public transit options. I think the "it's fun" argument ignores the--I suspect--fairly large population that thinks they are the opposite of fun.
One of my favorite memories is riding a scooter through Skid Row in the middle of the night while drunk. I have never felt so much in danger in my entire life. I highly recommend it
Australian here, a lot of states have been very harsh with legislation. I personally regret getting one, our cities are just not built for them, yet they still flood the streets of many cities here. New South Wales has banned them altogether, but that didn't stop these companies from flooding the streets with excessive numbers of e-bikes instead (most of which have missing helmets or broken brakes). Circular Quay in Sydney is drowning in those things.
It seems to me that at least 90% of the problems people are having with these scooters are caused by people having a problem with those scooters. A thing being smashed to trash and thrown into lakes isn't the fault of that thing.
I'm 68, and I own and ride an e scooter in my neighborhood. We have lots of bike lanes in my city, and I love my scooter. I first used rental scooters in Washington DC. It was a great way to beat the traffic for short trips.
Had so many good times riding these things in Berlin with a couple of friends. The amount of abuse those Bolt ones could take is honestly impressive. When we left a bar in Berlin I decided to do a bunny hop on a sidewalk. It completely bended the frame but it took it like a champ. I still managed to make it back to the hotel. Thank God for Bolts.
my city is relatively walkable but public transport has a relatively small window of operation and doesnt work on the weekends. so scooting to work has saved me a bunch on cab fare and the like. the main problems with those scooters (atleast the cheaper ones) is the narrow wheels which make them more prone to falling and the lack of suspension that makes using them on bumpier roads a mess.
The big problem with scooters is that most riders don't plan ahead of time to ride one and end up doing so without a helmet or padding. People don't carry helmets around in case they find a scooter, and we all know if the scooter came with one, they would be stolen.
The fundamental problem with e-scooters is the lack of infrastructure. They're too slow for the street and too fast for the sidewalks. Unless your city has a robust bike lane infrastructure or is just so congested the average car goes less than 15mph, they're going to be dangerous. They do really solve the "last mile" problem of public transit though.
I have been riding one to work for a couple of years and this is the only real issue with it. There are no bike lanes and even the sidewalks are in a miserable state. At least its not a boring commute when you need to dodge holes and other obstacles. Its so extreme that two days ago one of the cooks from work fucked up her face real bad after tripping on a stray rock.
In Italy it's like the opposite. The scooters are usually kept in order in the street, few people still vandalized them and certain parts of the city have speed limit. I think we can all agree that the problem are the people, not the scooters. In the video you make it look like it's the scooter' fault, they are not dangerous, people who use unproperly are. :(
That's wrong, they are inherently dangerous, since there isn't enough tolerance in user error or unexpected terrain handling. For example, a small rock is enough to completely knock someone off balance on these things. A simple increase in the size of wheels would make them significantly safer along with thicker (non solid rubber) tyres.
He throw shade at everyone. Going off facts.... Really like every outer nation the French are just there own taste of awful. Spiced up just to fit the funny stereotype of UK/French relations. But really there are very few worthy notes of positivity any country/state deserve to be parsed for. I can not think of a single one that do not in general have a bad stigma attached just to them. Germany... China. Japan. USA. Sweden. Russia etc etc.
19:10 pros go in the toe… learned that from finding a junky a nodding off in a porta pottie in New Orleans 20 years ago. That place will make you grow up real quick.
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No.
I can’t believe people still think flying cars will become a thing when people can’t even be trusted on e scooters
Flying cars do exist. They have 3 tiny wheels, are ~150m long and are called “planes”.
they are beginning now to sell actual flying drones with chairs... they are about 100k... theyre not automated yet but they should be... it would be much easier to automate them than anything on the ground
@@dab_u7185 planes are buses with less wheels, not cars.
@@tiefensucht And Buses are just longer cars
@@dab_u7185 ..with much more seats. Just to make a point: Flying cars are about personal transport, like in The Jetsons.
“You can’t reinvent the wheel, but with enough venture capital you can try” is pure poetry.
the famous line about reinventing the wheel is actually about how it's stupid and pointless to do so, which is certainly still the case here
Ordinary things is beautifully vicious in his on point criticism.
@@janthran yeah. That is the point.
@@janthran No way? We had no idea! So cool! Thanks for letting us know. Literally none of us have access to the largest repository of knowledge in human history so we're lucky to have people like you to fill us in.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow in 2k22 internet is a censored garbage bin.
During "dystopian, oppressive, censored soviet" times my father used to go to the public library to take fresh ГОСТ standard for free because: it is the standard, you know. Nowadays, just try to take something like ATX, PCI or just soldering class Standard like IPC-it is all paid and there is always an excuse to be paid even for ГОСТ made in Uzbekistan.
So, nowadays internet is just a huge marketing dumpster full of hopeless shiteaters. It was a lot more easier to take a publication that did it in my university than download it: he didn't get paid if I would paid for publication to "elsevier".
Just imagine public library full of free newspapers from local supermarket, rewritten books of the same book for around 10 times, manuals like "how to make shit without taking off your sweater" and everything else censored or paid by ridiculous amount of monet to buy a cat in the bag.
Back in high school, some friends of mine went "fishing" for these scooters in a local lake, tore them apart and built a shopping cart chariot out of the parts which still worked.
That's way punk dude. Lol
EPIC!
“Back in high school” if these existed during your high school career it wasn’t that far back
So two years ago
Ah yes, the ye olde times of covid-19
By far my favorite experience with one of these things is when I was in the Navy a Chief got a DUI on one of these things. My CO made this man give a speech to the entire squadron explaining this and to this day it is one of the funniest things I was not allowed to laugh at.
Can you perhaps share any excerpts from this speech please?
@@emmetcoyne6436 there's nothing really memorable what he said, he was definitely just making it up as he went along. A lot of "I was an idiot, don't make the same mistakes I did, etc." kind of stuff.
That would be a Dishonorable Discharge for me!
Dude, your cheeks were probably inflated like a squirrel’s trying to hold in the laughs
In fact you could’ve revolutionized balloon travel
No, really the Birds mission is to make lots of money for Bird…..
E-scooters are so environmentally friendly, people were exceedingly eager to help sea creatures use them as well.
"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a Lime e-scooter"
Still waste full to trash the scooters to the sea
The ocean is allowed a few e-scooters, as a treat
A seal riding a lime scooter is cool.
You have to toss them a phone too so they can scan it. They’ll know what’s up
As an intoxicated person who has used these many times in Berlin I do like them on the weekends, when I'm drunk, just missed my connection and don't want to wait another 30 minutes to cheerfully puke in my own toilet. However, as someone who has ridden many dangerous vehicles like (motor)bikes, skateboards and your mum I'd say these things are the most dangerous. The tiny wheels with the relatively wide steering makes these things into an unstable mess.
Straight out of left field with that one
well said
especially when drunk lol
In Sweden, the police sometimes fine people not following the rules of the scooters
Mommy 🥺
Is it true what the man on the internet said?
Yes, they can turn off when you're riding them. Voi recently pulled out of Birmingham, but I did use one while they were here. While going through the underpass under the Bullring shopping centre, it detected that I was in a pedestrian zone (I wasn't, I was on a road that was *under* a pedestrian zone) and cut out - in front of a bus.
I work delivery in one of the big danish cities and yeah...the amount of people that dont have their shit in order is high, but add in fuckery of that nature and things just....nooooo.....once tried one of the electric bicycles and they are equally fucked
Correction: Xiaomi scooters are not powered by just efficient lithium ion batteries, they are also powered by the data they farm from you because all of the features are tied to their phone app.
You have basically explained how all tech companies work. From facebook, google, apple,...
My ankles are still recovering from the razor scooter craze of the early 00s.
My ankle just started hurting by reading this ^^
Oh god, you're gonna give me war flashbacks. My ankles started throbbing just from reading this
Dude my ankles were fine until I read that.
It was a dented shin for me, but I think it's comparable
Everyone wanted one regardless
Wow, this movement must have set a record for throwing batteries into the ocean.
uga uga me rebellious throw battery in watta uga uga me so against capitalism hehehe so smart yes yes
I swear most of these people trying to safe the planet by throwing lithium ion batteries into oceans etc must be the worst caveman moment we have seen till this day
@@Stormsolid I don't give a fuck about capitalism this capitalism that bitch I just wanna throw batteries in the ocean
Of course! It's a safe and legal thrill!
@@Stormsolid to be fair, a scooter that only lasts like 3 months in public use is gonna create a ton of e-waste even if it doesn’t get thrown in the ocean
@@SpookySnek9 safe? Yeah safer than most thrilling activities.
Legal? Definitely not legal kid lol.
But as the Germans say; No risk, no fun.
Literally nearly had my scooter stolen yesterday. A group of kids kicked me off my e scooter at fullwhack knocking me clean unconscious. I'm grateful to the people who helped me and got the guys caught. Suffered a broken jaw and a few broken teeth. Not the best experience.
Holy shit, that's horrifying
@@deviant2324Can we not please?
@@deviant2324 weirdo detected
Stay away from black teens
@@deviant2324 yeah, dude, only black people attack others. That’s been the case since the dawn of time……….
As a new zealander I can indeed confirm I was terrified i couldn’t surf the scooters or turn it into a pie
Or play rugby on them!
Did you all perform a haka before annihilating the scooter menace?
lol
Enough e-scooters. We need highly pollutive inefficient V12 Diesel Scooters with monster truck wheels.
Are you from the US?
Fuck mother earth, we're America, we own this shit now
Ironically some diesel cars might be less polluting than those e-scooters
Bring back the v10 engines
What about motorcycles?
The problem with the scooters is the same as the problem with bicycles in the USA: our cities are not built for them and people have zero respect for other people's property. If you leave it in public it will be stolen and/or vandalized.
I ride my e-bike all over San Francisco. It's great.
@@airops423 How's that $5k rent treating you? lol
@@tippyc2 I pay $1650 (per bedroom, two bedroom) for a nice remodeled unit in a great neighborhood two blocks from the water. This city is more expensive than I would like, of course, but I knew what I was getting into and I am compensated accordingly.
@@tippyc2 nailed that comment, dudes a fool 1650 a month for one bedroom it's a two bedroom he shares rent cost with someone to survive and its 4500 and I bet that doesn't include his internet 100 water gas electric say 300 cause commiefornia then your cell bill minimum 60 a month bet he leases his phone so like another 50 on top then all the food cost boy oh boy seems like even without food cost and my generosity on how low I assume certain Bill's are there for "clean" energy (totally not supplemented with nuclear or coal or gas plants because solar is intermittent and so is wind and tidal generating methods
Well the problem here is with RENTAL scooters. If everyone just owned them you'd have none of the issues. But they do have to go much longer distances before they're going to be adopted en masse in the USA
My city in Eastern Europe is one of the pioneers of this idea and it's fucking horrendous. There's scooters piled up everywhere, they get stuck under snowplows, they block streets...
if only we could treat cars like angry motorists treat scooters
Go for it. If you can pick my truck up you’re free to throw it in a river.
I'm a radiographer. There was guy who had injured himself while intoxicated with an e-scooter (first e-scooter accident I scanned). Some cab driver had found him laying in the streets. He had a big epidural hemorrhage in his brain and they had to open and remove a part of his skull to save his life.
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So, e-scooters are bad then? Maybe you need to be more open-minded, like your patient
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I get that there was way too many scooters, but I find it more messed up that hundreds of people filmed themselves throwing alternative transportation into the ocean
Yeah shit pissed me off, whats funny is I bet plenty of the people who did that shit are probably the same people who say we need to take care of our environment and stop climate change
Yah they probably didn't do it for any "altruistic" reasons, just general mob mentality to take your aggression out on something
Same, that just pissus me off, absolute lowlifes
it's alternative transportation fueled by hyper-privatization, appified fare gouging and venture capital so
@@Tuxfanturnip Lots of buzz words there buddy
I went to Rome recenlty and had a blast riding around on these things, felt very unsafe but thrilling risking my life on the Italian roads
Me too! It was awesome in Rome on these!
Biggest issue it seems is the cities that have taken to attempting to use them is they have no solid infrastructure to handle them being used (no proper cycle lanes)
Having recently visited Stockholm it was honestly amazingly useful to have them everywhere, the city is progressive towards electric vehicles and was built for cycling it seems, had no issues with them and travelled all around the city with no problems
This is about it aint it, coming back to this vid after Not Just Bikes’ stuff on YT makes me think: “yeah theyre just not made for the car dependent infrastructure that about all of the western world have pigeonholed themselves into” lol
I agree, I used the Birds to get around Rome a couple of months ago. We would find ourselves in the midst of traffic creating dangerous situations because we had to cross 2 lanes of cars to make a turn.
Coming from the Netherlands, I’m also really used to using my hands as turn signals. Trying this on a scooter while driving 25 km/h on a cobblestone road and looking over your shoulder to make sure you’re not getting flattened by Italian drivers is a perfect way to get rid of unwanted teeth. The added sense of danger and recklessness did made it extra fun though.
Edit: Shout out to Not Just Bikes, he’s opened my eyes to a lot of things to be grateful for that most Dutch people not only take for granted but don’t even notice.
As an avid cyclist, I want these and E-"bikes" as far from cycling infrastructure as possible.
That’s cool 😎
Europe is full of cycle roads. You should visit America. Even in their " most advanced city" new York there's about 6 bike roads. Half of those are only around parks. The average American drives to the park even if it's only 5 minutes from their house. Saw it myself. Giant obese woman, kids and all. Didn't want to walk less than 5 min. The concept of biking to places is unknown to them
I feel like there's two points that could have been mentioned in the vid:
1) The program that Lime had where you could pay a set amount of cash to 'own' one of their scooters and get a cut of all the rides on it, then after a period of time you had the option to either purchase it for yourself or it just became your property automatically (I can't remember, the idea was so ludicrous that I couldn't get to the end without laughing). A fantastic way to lose money and get a 6 months of constant wear-and-tear scooter for yourself afterwards.
2) The promo codes for rollout of new cities were not region locked. If somebody from, say, Barcelona, scouted some free unlocks or ride promo codes and sent them out globally, everyone could participate. Before Lime realized and started locking the codes out, people would get a good couple of hours for free. Because y'know, it's 2020, we haven't exactly figured out how that internet thing works yet.
Does it assume that your scooter will survive the period?
When they were dropped here in Sofia Bulgaria, in just two days you could see "lime trees" in the city park with scooters hanging from branches.
@@SyntheticParanoiaBulgarians sure know how to make a joke :D
Holy fuck, that sounds hella sketchy.
I think it's telling that the biggest problems with scooters (them being left all over the place and used unsafely) is more a problem with people than the scooters themselves.
Well, we aren't getting rid of the people...
No, when the herd doesn’t like something we aren’t supposed to just accept it. It is natural that we reject it with primitive displays.
Unless you see our base nature as a problem, but that does seem pretty common with the amount of delusion flying around social media.
@Herkimer Snerd The property of the big companies? That's not the societal concern, it's the disrespect for the environment. And I don't just mean in an 'environmental' sense, though that is very important too. I'm talking about how people have to live around the junk/mess people make. I wouldn't even call it that societal, just fucking stupid. Like they aren't smart enough to think one step ahead about the consequences for their actions. But it is American... Not all countries are better, but quite a few are much more intelligent/respectful. I was in Norway recently and it was great. They even had e-scooters that were just being used properly.
Agreed. The scooters are fine. they are not really the problem.
Some people are respectful.
It's important to mention that not all riders are the same...
@Herkimer Snerd I could care less about property from a major company.
What I hate about E Scooters is the fact that people just leave them anywhere without thinking of others. The amount of times I've seen them dumped on walkways/curbsides. They end up blocking access for individuals with physical disabilities at times.
But in the end it's down to human beings thinking of others and doing the right thing... people just want to get from point A to B real quick, once there dump their stuff in the sidewalk off you go!!
They're a blight tbh
That's where you are wrong. That's not on the scooters. They are just a tool. That's on the uncultured, disrespectful, individualist riders fault. individualism is mostly manifests among Americans who think the world revolves around them. It's not just scooters, they don't care about others. Talking loudly on the public transport, banging Bluetooth speakers, I even witnessed dozens of Americans leaving their shopping cart in the parking lot amidst cars after they were done packing into their own car.
This doesn't happen in a cultured society where there is emphasis on collectivism. Look at Japan or Europe. I am European and always was raised to think about others. Whatever I do. That means always sitting on the inner seat of the bus, letting others use the other one, minding where my shopping cart is at all times, being quiet etc. I drive a scooter as well but I always mind where it's parked. Always out of the way and minding others.
Do not blame the tool. Blame the people using them. It's about being cultured and not an asshole.
@@CaptainPupu pretty sure that's the point I was implying in the first place. Human beings not thinking of others, dumping these tools in walkways & not thinking of others bar themselves.
That is part of the scooter business model. Don't blame regular people for the decision the scooter owners deliberately made.
@@CaptainPupu Conflating 'being raised properly to respect others' with 'collectivism' is a pretty hot take. You know what it takes to raise someone right? Parents, guardians, and teachers focusing on them as an individual. Some might even call that an 'individualist' approach. Don't get me wrong, you're absolutely right that most Americans are uncultured and disrespectful, but that's a problem caused by the degenerate urban environments of our major cities, which spills out into the suburbs like a plague. And you know what perpetuates that urban degeneracy? Sending children to dilapidated public schools where there are 30+ students for every 1 un-fireable unionized 'teacher' who barely managed to get a liberal arts degree. That, my friend, is 'collectivism' in its worst form: dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
@@CaptainPupu Its really annoying as an American to see how inconsiderate this country as become. I live were some ppl will still hold a door for you if your entering behind them, but on occasion I've had ppl let it close in my face.
Here in germany it was a mostly positive experience to me.
They're useful for the last mile between bus/trainstop and your destination and only cost 1-3€ for the trip.
And generally people parked them in spots where they aren't bothering anyone.
I guess it helps having the city designed with bicycle traffic in mind.
In terms of the amount of scooters, it seemed to be just the right amount. I've rarely seen more than 2-3 at a location.
As a Canadian who has the EXACT same experience, I think we're seeing a case of "Americans think the rest of the world acts like they do". Majority of everywhere that has had these installed outside of the USA has been absolutely great.
If anything, Lime's becoming a very good bar at seeing how terribly selfish a population is.
The last mile? You can run that, no need to spend money
Do they venture on the autobahns? Where I drive the speed limit is strictly 90 kmh, and cameras on every lamppost. I have to stick to 90 (alright, 100 to make for untaxable margin) - but these dudes on scooters have no number tags and they don't follow any speed limits. And the law says, if the scooter flying at 120kmh rear ends my car, I'm liable for a pedestrian accident. Nice. Really nice. Just imagine what they would do on German autobahns.
@@jmi5969 Pretty sure those things max out at something like 20kmh, and as such are not allowed on the autobahn.
There is a minimum speed limit of 60kmh.
Not sure how liable you are if you hit some hapless idiot venturing onto the autobahn tho.
@@MrAntiKnowledge Even a wimpy 5KW motor can easily propel a lightweight rider to 100 kmh. The kids that pass me on the freeway are more into 10KW or even 2*10KW range. That's real motorcycle territory... on 4-inch wheels.
It really pains me to see those things getting destroyed like that. Don't get me wrong, although the concept is good in theory, the execution and the companies are horrible... But it's sad to see how much we take for granted high tech objects. The lithium had to be mined, transformed, built into a battery (sometimes in unethical ways), the electronics contains numerous precious metals and a lot of toxic stuff too. Yet here we are, with precious ressources going from mines to trash poisoning the environment in only a few months.
What a shame
I see it as a good thing to disencourage these dumb stop gap solutions to real problems before more unethical resourses are spent on it.
Its like burning up a store that sells products made by slave labour, it migh disencourage any company from using slave labour afterwards.
Who cares lmao, if you love the environment so much go build a boat and start scooping plastic out of the ocean. You won't tho, you will just complain online.
It's a shame that all of these things (batteries etc) went into shitty products that don't last in the first place - and that's even not considering deliberate trashing of it
@@Clergy4Life Wow you are so smart bro. You're really good at solving problems. Why don't you go solve all the world's problems?
@@Clergy4Life you can also just go pick up trash at your nearest park as well instead.
They temporarily banned them here in miami and now have implemented all these new rules, you can only go 10 mph on sidewalks and you have to wear a helmet. I can’t imagine tourists carrying around their own helmets tho so idk how that’s gonna work lol
The smartest e scooter company will integrate a helmet holder
Imagine tourists (or anyone for that matter), riding them without a helmet, just tapping the "Yes, I am wearing a helmet" button, without actually doing that.
No one would do that. Definitely not where I'm from, where helments are mandatory (at least I think they are).
I thought that just ment that you can be fine for not wearing a helmet
I recall last time I was in tampa there were lots of segways.
@@thenamesjohny1490 10 mph on the sidewalk, if you want to go faster you use the bike lane. The street is always smoother than the sidewalk
I feel out of my chair when you said “on the search for some stinky festival box”🤣🤣😭bruhhh stoppppp
My sister and her friend once attempted to use them in Krakow, Poland.
They scooted from the scooter parking to their destination, but once they got there, they found out that it was illegal to park scooters there. That it was only legal to park them in that one spot from which they began their ride. Which means that they had to scoot back through the entirety of Krakow again, to get the scooters legally parked.
Then, they just walked from the scooter parking to their destination, by foot.
🤷♀️
It's only illegal if you get caught.
Humans with technology: “We must advance this and progress our knowledge”
Humanity as a whole at the sight of the scooters: hAIrLesS mOnkE sMaSh
Unfortunately, a few idiots make everyone look bad
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
@@thelonesculler I wonder if it originaly is from men in black
the problem is people are riding on sidewalks and crashing into people, and when they ride on the streets they are getting hit by cars.... bike infrastructure would have solved this...
@@joeg5414 hmmmmm always this way
At least we can have a Paul Blart 3 with these bad boys
Silver lining
Nah, this is the Paul Blart: The Game. It’s open-world
Wouldn't really work, lol
@4:02 “Stinky festival box”. That’s pure gold. 😂😂😂. Great vid as always!
E-scooters have just hit my town a few weeks ago and they have quickly become a sidewalk/trail Hazard
I'll say the danger comes from a few things:
1) not being separated from other traffic. this is the same problems bicycles have had since the invention of the motor car which is they are too slow for roads but too fast for pavements. This could have already been solved by having segregated bicycle infrastructure the scooters were able to use. Car drivers in most cities are undertrained as it is in dealing with small fast moving objects like bicycles existing in their space as it is
2) unlike said bicycle where you start off slowish and gradually get faster as your fitness increases giving you time to adjust the electric scooters give you full speed straight away allowing anyone with a credit card and no braincells to access fatal speeds
3) Bicycles large wheels often mean they are able to ride over many smaller obstacles/ potholes that would otherwise throw scooter riders off
3) bicycle users generally own their bicycles and therefore are more cautious as it's their own property. they also tend to own the relevant safety equipment (i.e. a helmet) and tend to wear it as it makes sense to invest in a helmet if you ride everyday but it doesn't if you are a casual scooter user
EDIT: My main point here was the E-scooter/ electric bicycle is absolutely a great option for the future of personal transport but it needs proper infrastructure to do their jobs. Something cyclists have been asking for years and now the powers that be have decided it's easier to just ban the "problem" than dismantle the cult of the automobile
In the UK in a small town where I live I see them about a fair bit... However they aren't treated badly because people are actually using them at reasonable speeds, and treating them well because it's their own scooter.
Like with idiots doing wheelies on bycicles you have idiots trying to sit down on the scooters... Idiots are idiots, but because it's new it seems to attract more of them. Overall I'd say these things are safer. (from my experience using a scooter now and having used to ride a bycicle to work) Because you can easily bail out on a scooter, you can from my experience due to the small wheels be more nimble in areas you need to (flat pavements with lots of pedestrians). You can lock your speed to a certain limit (which is something I think the apps should do for the hire scooters, or scooters in general) so that you know in a crowded area you should always be going slow enough.
I see it as these just having the same exact issues as Bycicles have, but due to the mass scale and availability these have come with it has only exaggerated those already existing issues.
Something you learn in life is that giving stuff to the public guarantees it to get completely fucked.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer the car is the paywall.
Cities with proper bicycle infrastructure are fantastic with these scooters. They are a great way to do final mile transportation after taking public transport. Haven't had to take a taxi anywhere since they arrived.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer hahahahah
I found e-scooters fun to ride in cities with paved roads. But in Europe, many of the city centers have setts, cobblestones or other stone pavements. Not only does this shake your organs into a smoothie, but thanks to the small wheels of e-scooters, any rough patch can launch you right into the stratosphere.
This comes from most e-scooters having absolutely no suspension, and mostly not even having air-filled tires. I have seen full-suspension scooters with cushy air tires, I couldn’t give you a link, but you might wanna research specifically that.
even worse if you don’t have good roads in your city, you can feel your organs being shaken or if you absorb the shock by crawling while riding, you can feel your legs numb
@@scanialover Lol same I can imagine them being problematic in colder countries with terrible roads. Kinda explains why they are not a thing in places that snow a lot.
You have to stand on your toe tips and let your Calfs be the suspension
Sounds stupid but works on Berlins cobble streets haha
You just have to look where you are going and stand on your toes every time you see a crack, then you’ve created your own suspension 😅
I remember the bird-pocalyspe. I couldn't walk anywhere without tripping over three of those damn things. Or having a drunk tourist almost hit me.
As a lime juicer I ride them like a block or two back to my car when I pick them up. They are fun but given that we have to pick them up and drop them off every night to charge and that you have to have at least a mid sized vehicle to do so (I drive a minivan with a tow hitch) that whole green thing doesn't really hold a lot of water
It would probably be better if they had charging docks you rented them from. Like how rental bikes have bike locks you have to return it to
As an American, British police have always fascinated me. I don't think I've ever heard a cop here say "thank you for stopping"
That's true but to be fair America police now either hunt you down or start shooting so I guess they went for honey catches more Flys then salt approach
De-escalation starts immediately with the British. Kinda has to be that way on account of the drunkenness
Stop resisting! BAM BAM BAM BAM
As an American, cops are to be avoided at all costs. And I say that as a middle aged white dude.
Thats because we don’t normally willingly stop for pigs
When the lockdown started, the busses in my hometown stopped running at 5. I worked until 530. Those scooters were my savior. That being said, it's still super obnoxious when they're just laying all over the sidewalk, especially in historic areas
The rental scooters laying on streets isn’t an unsolvable problem, actually. In the city I live in, you have to lock the scooter to somewhere available and then open the app and take a photo of it to prove you actually locked it. And I’d say it’s working just fine since I’ve never seen an unlocked or abandoned scooter so far.
Where I live the buses don't even exist. It's either car or you're screwed. You have to ride the scooter on sidewalks, as bike lanes don't exist either and the roads have traffic at up to 45mph
I don't mean to criticise but your transportation situation could perhaps be solved with a bicycle?
@@qqndetriste same in my town, you cant fucking just leave them around, they come with bike chains to lock em up. reducing vandalisim and just fucking scooters everywhere
Or some drunk ass just throwing it in front of your door on the sidewalk and you trip over it on a dark and icy morning. And it’s annoying that people bring them into supermarkets in rush hours taking up way to much space.
Its scarier that the scooters can just be geo-locked or just shut off when ever the companies want
companies will not shut off your scooter, be realistic, and if they would, scooters will just stop slowly
They can do this to modern cars too.
@@sodapopcowboy8620 I know its gay as fuck
I'm beginning to believe the guy that invented these things also owns a hospital or insurance company !
Naw. The VC funds that paid for these scooters to be put in big cities are the ones that own hospitals and health insurance.
Better than the thousands of deaths cars cause
@@DavidRamirez-vc8dr source?
@@tommymarco on what? The amount of car deaths? That’s so easy to look up, bud
@@DavidRamirez-vc8dr nah brah, receipts
My father works in the hospital. They joke e-scooters were invented by an orthopedic surgeon who wanted more work. (you get a lot more complicated bone breakages than with bicycles with these, apparently you can see nice T-shaped indents on the patients from the handles, too)
During pre-Christmas revelries my cousin decided to go get pizza on a scooter. He came back with multiple breaks in his hand. The fall wasn't the problem, the handle fell on his hand.
@@yootx But what happened to the pizza?
@@turrboenvy4612 pizza's on life support. pray for it.
Is your dad a nurse? Don't be ashamed and say he "works in the hospital.". Unless he's a janitor. That is a little low status, ngl.
@@themoviedealers Anesthesist and first responder. Man has seen som sh*t, you know you're dealing with doctors when you hear "oh the funniest suicide we had..."
(FYI it was a lad who crushed his head under a hydraulic steelpress, he said the cause of death was very easy to determine)
I live in Zürich (the one in Switzerland), and while there aren't that many e-scooters (yet, there are a few rental companies), razor push-scooters are everywhere. The advantage of them is that they'll fold in the middle and you can take them on the public transport, which is excellent here. Huge numbers of people have one, and you'll see commuters on the tram with them under their arms. You can just hop off the tram at your stop, flip it open, and scoot off to your office block.
Razor scooters also have the added bonus of doubling as an improvised 2-handed weapon in case a forest bandit tries to rob you.
Yea, they are pretty nice for reasonably built european cities
There's another Zürich?
@@MK_ULTRA420 They only do 1d4 damage, though, despite the name.
@@hjalfi Makes sense since the bladed part is always swiveling around the handle when you try to swing it.
Next up the E-Scooter side car.... which honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for extra stability and storage for a grocery run.
I think this behavior kinda ruins it for those of us responsible scooterers
Id much prefer more ebikes around as long as they’re not crazy priced.
We have those, they're called Motorcycles
The problem with ebikes is theft, you cant leave it anywhere it will just get instantly stolen
@@jemmytaveras bro how many electric motorcycles do you think exsist, plus the renting cost for those would be way higher than an ebike, not to mention the fact that motorcycles don't go into the bike lane?
Or just walk
@@Daniel-om4ce quite funny that some cities are not built to walk... lmao
Right before e-scooters, stockholm had a functional system called citybikes, with bus stop like stands where you scanned your card (30EUR/year) to unlock a bike, and to end the ride you had to lock it into another bus stop-like, clear channel bike stand. it was sponsored by the city and it was amazing
This is very much a thing in lots of cities. London has a huge network.
We have them here in Chicago
I always wondered why they didn't implement something like this; it would've saved millions in collecting vandalised scooters.
It exists in my city, and thanks to it E-Scooters, while still being present, haven't gain a strong foothold.
Here in the Netherlands they're banned for now. Just like dockless shared bicycles. We've a massive shared bike system called OV Fiets which is a last mile solution of the Dutch Railways. Shared moped scooters are okay though and are our e-scooter alternative to vandalize.
If you want to see the apocalypse in action, just go to Istanbul. Wherever you look, they are everywhere. Streets, sidewalks, poles, inside malls, in the bosphorus bridge. And they keep coming. They have now evolved to E-motorcycles and E-mopeds.
i never knew i need a documentary about e-scooters, but here i am. i feel like you could say that about most of this guys content. It's content you didn't know you needed, but you love it when you do.
“Basically pedestrians have become the bowling pins of Santa Monica” gave me a small chuckle. I feel kinda bad
To be fair, pedestrians have always been bowling pins in America ever since cars became prevalent, but now e-scooters are joining in on the fun
Banter
Neither pedestrians nor drivers have a great track record for paying attention to their surroundings
To be fair cars are generally pretty shitty about treating pedestrians and bicyclists safely either. So basically if you cannot follow road rules for bikes and people walking and there is no real consequences they cannot handle scooters
I think the biggest problem with e-scoters is the fact that they are dumping too many of them on every sidewalk, plus as the video said since there is multiple companies competing against each other you have too may scooters and they start to pile up everywhere, people kinda treat them like trash and disposable when there's literal piles of them
my biggest problem with them is price. Just to start a ride you need to pay 1€ upfront and then smth like 20 cents every minute. If I take a ride that's 10 minutes I already paid 3€ which is even more than a simple bus ticket for twice the range. If I had to go 30 minutes with that thing, I'd pay more than a whole day ticket for the whole public transport in my city, which is insane.
@@PvtAnonymous how many minutes would you walk and wait for busses though?
I mean, other countries do it too & they don't get as batshit insane as over there does.
I mean i just started going out for walks and I can confirm those things are usually sideways in middle of the sidewalk
I find one in the middle of a sidewalk once a month I'd say.
3:57 "in the search for some stinky festival box" 😂😂
Lime is still present in Hungary in many cities. The newest scooters are made of heavy, chunky bars of steel, weigh a lot and can top out at around 20-22 km/h.
In my experience they are maintained well, they even have indicators, the coverage is acceptable. Non-scooter zones and parking spots/areas are changing sometimes as I discovered.
The only thing that drive people away is the price and app-dependency. I took few rides to work and a one way 15 minute trip cost me 3x the money compared to going with my car.
I only see the potential of rental scooters in busy capitals and tourist cities where they could provide an alternative to scheduled public transport.
I rode an e scooter for the first time after a concert last night. I was waiting for a $30 Uber along with everyone else and saw scooters littered all over a sidewalk. Picked one up without knowing how much it’d cost. Rode it 3 miles home and paid $12. 10/10 They’re fucking fun too.
Yes I came home late from a bar in nyc and it was awesome to ride a scooter home than have to risk the spooky ass subway at 4am
Just get a real scooter or a bike ffs.
@@tomclancy102 you seem to miss the point, they didnt bring a transport option of their own, and thats where these things work nicely
@@joule400 i get it i get it but I just get real pissed because of these things
@@tomclancy102 lol never had a go on a e scooter so would like to try it one time but yea vespa all the way
The weirdest take i'm getting from is, is that many people seem to be entertained by mindless vandalism. Reminds me of cavemen
2020 in a nutshell
Well, as we are pretty much the same as humans back in the Stone Age? Yeah, we are just better dressed Cavemen.
Well, cave men are just men in caves.
@@TuriGamer It's sooo fun to destroy property, waste other peoples work and resources, throw trash into rivers and oceans and help bring down a company that provided jobs. So fun.
I think it’s facetious to call it “mindless”, there is obviously a motivation here
This is why I like to OWN stuff, not RENT.
To be fair renting this type of transport is actually very convinient since you don't have to carry the escooter/ebike with you after travelling to a certain point and you can start the journey from any different point. They also have the potential to be environmentally friendly although both producers and user must act in accordance with that goal.
There are use cases for them, provided they are not vandalized, become more economical, more environmentally friendly, and their allocation is discussed in advance with city planning.
1. When the taxi, or uber, or bolt, or lyft are too expensive, or scarce, for short to medium trips these are ok.
2. Commuting from your home to a train / metro station. In my country, I cannot do this via bike, as if I leave my bike regularly for 4-6 hours parked, in the same metro station, for 2-3 days a week, it is a guarantee it will get stolen in the near future. Therefore, it is convenient to use the rented e scooter from your house to the metro station, and get another when you are back
I actually used to work for Lime in a certain California college town, and the majority of my time on the job was spent pulling waterlogged scooters out of the sand on the beach and cleaning up rows of parked scooters that people had knocked over. I loved working there, but the amount of people who thought it was fun to vandalize the scooters and/or throw them into the ocean because “they wouldn’t get caught” was really sad.
On the bright side, I did learn to ride 5 scooters at once.
how do u ride that many at once, do u have them all going or do you have 1 pulling the rest
@@ProPrince I would stack them on top of one scooter, the bottom scooter would carry them all while I stood on top of the stack. Five was my limit because it was difficult to control the weight balance after that.
If I was only riding two scooters I would ride both with one for each leg and using both throttles with each hand. I don't recommend trying it as there's so many ways it can go wrong (you can't use the brakes when riding like that) but it was so much fun lol.
Yooo I can do the 5 trick too 😎 nanobot ES4? More difficult with newer models. I did this to bring them back to my home to charge them while living in Wellington nz
@@alilallier5490 Ayyy nice I wish it was the Ninebot ES4s here, we had the model that came after the ES4s in my area known as the Lime Gen 2.5 scooters. They were about 6 lbs (3kg) heavier than ES4s and a lot thicker. Before I got hired to LimeOps I was also part of the juicer/charger program and I could only fit about 4 of the Gen 2.5s into my car vs. 7-8 ES4s, wasn't worth my time after that.
@@camsqu both of them were trash models. They break so easily... I don't know why they used them
Only 5 minutes in and this already looks to be more comprehensive and balanced than others I've seen on the topics
That's ordinary things for you
Quality takes time. Cannot rush perfection
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no CZcamsr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear bert
@@AxxLAfriku 👀 who asked 👀
@@AxxLAfriku who
I left when it switched from what the title promised to a scooter history lesson.
I’d love to see these in a place like York. Cobbled streets + small unsprung wheels = brilliant ride quality.
One good thing about e-scooters: I think they made people realize how poorly fit our infrastructure is for anything but cars in most cities. Without protected bike lanes people will either ride in the street or on sidewalks, neither of which is a good solution for either biking or scootering
Juat imagine if they create some "scooter line" that prohibits walking and biking. That would be next level idiocy...
It would be interesting to get rid of bike lanes and just widen the sidewalk to fit bikes, scooters and pedestrians. Just require that pedestrians have the right of way and scooters and bikes are expected to slow down when passing.
@@monev Yeah, what a terrible idea!! I don't know were to start
@@monev really bad idea... a good idea would be to get rid of "car lanes" and expand public transportation, bike lanes and walkable districts... bike lanes are necessary even in walkable districts
bike lanes aren’t really a solution. Where I live there are a lot of bike lanes and bicycles either drive on the regular street side or on the sidewalk.
The scooters in the ocean reminds me, in brighton theres e bikes you can hire remotely with card deets to hop about to different bits of the city. Was on the beach there once, and a friend was gonna hire one to go home on. They opened the app, and the closest one to us, was 0.7miles from us, but straight out to sea, and the tide was pulling it further out, could see it getting further on the app. I found it absolutely hilarious ngl, but i think half of the amusement was that the tracker was still working 30 metres under the ocean
Thats a good bloody tracker
ayy im from brighton too! small world i guess damn, ye some areas you just see the odd bike scattered around its daft
@@sellotape6475 I'm half an hours drive from Brighton. Not that crazy. A video with 630k views, and made by a Brit, meaning it likely to have a higher proportion of British viewers than other non-British creators. And a city with a population of 300k which is small as cities go. But in terms of pure numbers of people is a lot.
GPS doesn't work under water. You were probably just seeing one on the road with a messed up GPS module.
Nah Mate that was me, I was skanking down there with the fishis when friction came on, took the underground rave underSEA.
Nothing more cowardly than firing your employees over a one way Zoom call
A veritable _tour de force_ delivered with style and wit.
*Beautifully written and narrated: some of the finest prose on CZcams*
Masterful use of humour: verbal, visual, contextual and often _laugh out loud_ funny.
Been bingeing your videos since the first one I saw (on Gaia) and am seriously impressed.
Superlative content - interesting, entertaining and informative.
Thank you!
The first time I saw one of these I immediately began to wonder how many security features they have and how hard it would be to hotwire one or just remove their most expensive parts.
I'm not a career criminal, just realistic about the kinds of challenges a business model like this must face.
Not to mention the bullet-proofing they have to put around the electrical components and battery. It astounds me that none of the scooters in the destruction montage caught fire.
I didn't realise they were motorized until I saw this video. But once knew that, my mind went to the same place.
having done something this questionable, the answer is that it is very possible but requires more electronics knowledge than the average person, so i doubt thats a huge issue.
@@nordic-chan average person + Google, or just a guy?
if they're going to illegally dump their shit on us, we can at least consider stripping them for parts
I felt jealous at first, living in an area where these never came to be, but now I'm glad we don't have them. Lord knows, drivers and pedestrians are both already terrifying here from either perspective, so adding this probably would've upped the body count.
But think about it. For every person you run over, that is one less polluter in the world. That is how these are green and red!
My college campus had tons of these when I started school, but they've pretty much all been replaced by rental bikes within 2-3 years. Drunk college students and electric scooters are a BAD combination, to say the least.
The problem this video it almost pushes the agenda that escooters are bad and they really aren't. Go watch some e scooter videos ones with a seat maybe or something. Watch actual riders riding them on youtube videos and not a clip of some idiot on a cheap shitty scooter falling over.
@@battyflaps5410 ok, bikes are still better tho
@BattyFlaps The batteries used in these Oriental deathtraps leave behind a noticeable amount of pollution as a byproduct of their creation process, and you can bet your very last buttered biscuit that the corpos cranking these contraptions out via assembly line process don’t always properly dispose of their hazardous waste. 😑
Here in Germany, E-scooters are heavily regulated by special laws like E-scooters only allowed to go up to 20 km/h (about 15 mp/h) , only allowed on car streets and bike lanes and they require a special insurance to be useable. Not following any of these will end up in a pretty hefty fine and sometimes even jail time. This comes from someone who owns a personal E-scooter.
The fact you technically filmed yourself breaking the law is hilarious.
Gotta love how the dude at 15:00 didn't care at all that he fall but the woman who was not affected at all had a major crisis.
Germany moment
was so weird
Funny how most of these "alternate transport fads" could really be solved if we had built efficient cities in the first place. The dude was right with one thing though, cars are killing our cities. Not enough public transport and everything is built way too far away from one another.
Even without cars these would be great in theory. These give people a way to get around outside of pre determined paths, the biggest issue of public transit. They are very small so you can fit way more on the road. The scooters just need to be owned personally so you are more inclined to take care of them.
they still will be e-waste within a year or two of being made so I don't really get how they're "great". Just use a bike or your legs. Hopefully those will work for longer than 2 years.
People who say "cars are killing our cities" have never lived without a car.
@@TheDirtysouthfan Scooters are dangerous and inefficient trash. Ebiking is the future.
imagine living in a city, that's your first mistake. Post covid everyone is leaving cities.
I once heard a quote that goes something like this: “Ideas are nothing, execution is everything.” The e-scooter sounds good on paper, but the execution has been awful.
I think the main problem is with the people treating the scooters like trash. Another thing is that these big companies, and all these scooters being dumped out in cities are going to force these places to put more laws and regulations on scooters and ruin it for experienced private scooter owners like me who know what they’re doing.
Just realized that this bloke does not have a single bad video
This one is pretty bad. Hes got a few other bad ones too.
I dont actually think that, i just like to be negative.
I dunno, his handshake video made me feel it was an impotent attempt to rid the world of handshakes, because shaking hands with him must be like grabbing an eel by the tail end while it's trying to wriggle free from your grasp, all loose and slimy, and he just doesn't want handshakes being a part of the social norm, because he's always outed by them as being the salt avoiding snail that he is.
Other than that, yeah, his videos are fantastic.
He did do one on Lawns. It was like a personal attack on my masculinity!
@@CA999 I liked that one in particular, giving me a good reason to be lazy mowing :)
Lord the anxiety from just seeing people take those scooters on the highway, I'm anxious enough in my own car I can't imagine being on a flimsy scooter dodging trucks.
it so fun, dude you should try it)
i ride mine 55km/h on the road with cars, i feel like a mad max everyday
p.s. cheap ones really do fuck up your knees in 2-3 months, so consider double suspension
haha speed meter go brrrr
@@denisblack9897 ok jensen
@@denisblack9897 coudnt you just glue some anti-stress foam on the top of the deck? that and riding with your knees slightly bent to act like a shock absorber for big bumbs.
@@denisblack9897 Mad max lol. Kaabo Wolf King GT pooooooooooooossssssse
As someone who lost a tooth to lime scooters. This hurts and is glorious at same time
Funny enough nobody beats on eye of all the cars that take so much space on the streets and sidewalks
I'm not a huge fan of these dockless e-scooters, but I also don't have much experience with them, especially since the whole category is effectively banned in the Netherlands.
That being said, it does humour me to see photos of the "problem" of escooters which usually involves a handful of them clogging a 1 metre sidewalk ... with a six lane road for cars in the background.
Apart from the effects of dumb VC money and environmental issues of their manufacturing, the majority of the "problems" with escooters comes down to them having to fight with pedestrians and cyclists over the scraps left over after basically all space in the city has been given over to motor vehicles.
You mentioned it briefly at the end, but these scooters, or at least something like them, will continue to exist, and it's probably a good idea to find a way for them to fit in. For all of their flaws, they're still better for the city, in almost every category, than cars, so it's probably worth the trouble.
I've referred to these before as "square peg vehicles", the kind of transportation options that exist in-between the options we design for. Whether the future of transport is an escooter, an ebike, a mobility scooter, or a Birò microcar, it's going to be something different than what we have today, so it's worth trying to find a way to make these square pegs fit in our cities.
(I almost wrote, "fit in our round holes.")
That being said, I really hope that the future of mobility is not "dumb money" VC-backed garbage mobiles.
They are supposed to solve the last mile problem. But they are the tech bro's solution - trying to reinvent the wheel and flooding the cities with unusable junk. A simple bike would do the job perfectly, but they just had to be different and techy.
In cities with cobble roads/sidewalks like mine you cant use them at all. Also they are super expensive - I can rent an electric car for one trip for the same price.
Huge fan of your content, btw.
The ultimate urban-piller appears. Love your content. Really speaks to me as someone who lives in Texas but can't drive due to health issues.
What about privately owned scooters, like Xiaomi M365, that you can buy in stores?
From personal experience with e scooters in New Zealand. I actually love them as a far better alternative to busses in my city as during COVID the last place you want to be is in an overcrowded steel box which is at overcapacity and slow. The local government did an evaluation process and allowed 2 companies to operate within the city with a limited amount of scooters. There zones where the scooter has reduced speed and there zones where you are not allowed to park them and if you do it will cost u $10. One of the companies is local and the one I personally use. They have a subscription service which gives me perfect amount of runtime to get to work and back while being cheaper than catching a bus. And with the scooters being around for over a year now the population which rides them has become way more cautious and aware of pedestrian, but a lack of effective cycleways and an abundance of narrow footpaths is annoying and potentially dangerous. Also the scooters I use a very well desighned as they have suspension and a great weight distribution as well as great breaks. All of this results in great control and better safety for the rides and their surroundings. I cannot say the same for lime scooters which a @##@#£ danger to society as they have no suspension and a higher center of gravity than snoopdog and breaks that don't slow you down but rather make you skidd and they do not have electronic braking allowing you to reach speeds of 50kmh if not more depending how steep the downhill is.
In conclusion e scooters are great when they are well desighned and well implemented with a considerate population.
I’ve used them a few times including in San Francisco before the ban. It was super fun and convenient to just hop on a scooter and scoot around and then drop them off at your destination. It really feels a niche that no other service provides. Zipcar for example is basically useless because you have to return the car from where you got it.
When bike rentals were banned in my home city, the Chinese company pretty much abandoned them on the street and left. People swiped them, painted over the logos and kept them. I did it as well. Free bike is a free bike.
They also got imported to poorer countries as a form of transport
These are actually amazing as a student or really anyone living in a small appartment within cities, dont need to struggle with parking, very nice for getting to and from uni as well as shopping. Also takes nearly no room inside.
I'm feeling this now since I got one after my bike got stolen from the public rack
Fuck the cities, having reliable transport shouldnt be this hard to sort out.
I rode one of these for the first time recently and I hated it. I believe the branding was Lime(?). The throttle kept getting stuck so it would randomly try to get away from me when I stopped. I constantly felt like I was going to fall over. I was so tense that I swear my muscles ached far more than they would have if I'd walked. I felt like I had to apologize to everyone I got within 10 feet of. I absolutely had tears in my eyes when we finally stopped. 0/10 will never complain about my feet hurting on a walk ever again. The only good thing was we did, indeed, get where we were going faster, but I'd rather there were just better infrastructure and public transit options. I think the "it's fun" argument ignores the--I suspect--fairly large population that thinks they are the opposite of fun.
One of my favorite memories is riding a scooter through Skid Row in the middle of the night while drunk. I have never felt so much in danger in my entire life. I highly recommend it
The feeling of stumbling onto a new channel that's binge worthy is so rare on CZcams these days. Feels good, thanks bud.
I thought it was just me! Good to hear that others are also being exposed to these hidden gems. 😁
Yeah except he seems to always use poor people and homeless people as the butt of his jokes, which is classist
I stumbled upon this channel like I stumble over e-scooters strewn about on the sidewalk.
He’s good right
Dog cops get ptsd.
It’s not the scooters , it’s the people . People suck.
Australian here, a lot of states have been very harsh with legislation. I personally regret getting one, our cities are just not built for them, yet they still flood the streets of many cities here. New South Wales has banned them altogether, but that didn't stop these companies from flooding the streets with excessive numbers of e-bikes instead (most of which have missing helmets or broken brakes). Circular Quay in Sydney is drowning in those things.
Some guy: *Presents a mediocre idea on paper*
Billionaire: I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
It seems to me that at least 90% of the problems people are having with these scooters are caused by people having a problem with those scooters. A thing being smashed to trash and thrown into lakes isn't the fault of that thing.
More like 45% and the rest being it's 5 month lifespan, it being waste of lithium ion batteries, and the fact that bikes exists
we should just solve 100 percent of the problem, throw them in the bins! the proper place for ScootScoots
@@atherapists3331 TBH I prefer the scooter cause I can bring it inside most buildings since bike parking is extremely rare to find here
@@maayazi I don't think you should bring vehicles inside buildings especially motorized ones
@@atherapists3331 most places here don't have a place for you to leave your bicycle outside so scooter becomes a better option
E scooters are soooo much fun, and a great way to get around. I hate that we can't have nice things.
I'm 68, and I own and ride an e scooter in my neighborhood. We have lots of bike lanes in my city, and I love my scooter. I first used rental scooters in Washington DC. It was a great way to beat the traffic for short trips.
Dangerous as they may be, it was stupid fun riding them back from the club with a few friends in the early morning when nobody was on the streets.
Really? You must be easy to please then.
Had so many good times riding these things in Berlin with a couple of friends. The amount of abuse those Bolt ones could take is honestly impressive. When we left a bar in Berlin I decided to do a bunny hop on a sidewalk. It completely bended the frame but it took it like a champ. I still managed to make it back to the hotel. Thank God for Bolts.
@@panzerveps Being annoying and negative isn't a personality
Agreed, anytime I get a chance to ride them I do… Especially in cities that they don’t have speed limits on. Some of those babies get up to 20mph 😂
@@panzerveps you're so annoying man, get out.
There was a missed opportunity there at the start it could have been "A city built for the vehicle wheel and not for the human heel"
are you a poet?
@@Francois_Dupont yes... yes i suppose i am...
my city is relatively walkable but public transport has a relatively small window of operation and doesnt work on the weekends. so scooting to work has saved me a bunch on cab fare and the like. the main problems with those scooters (atleast the cheaper ones) is the narrow wheels which make them more prone to falling and the lack of suspension that makes using them on bumpier roads a mess.
Seeing the bonfire of scooters is a little comical. 😆
I have a scar on my leg from a lime scooter. According to the doctor there were so many injuries in the city they were calling it Lime Disease.
Well at least Razor's shin-bruiser scooters have a rightful successor.
The big problem with scooters is that most riders don't plan ahead of time to ride one and end up doing so without a helmet or padding. People don't carry helmets around in case they find a scooter, and we all know if the scooter came with one, they would be stolen.
TIER escoots come with storage box that has room for a foldable helmet. It's opened with the app so if you steal it they can charge it from your card.
Man good to see you here Redbeard, I see you in my other channels
I remember someone running a kickstarter on a foldable helmet to carry with you just in case for this very reason.
Maybe they should build a protective case around it and add a couple more wheels for stability.
@@LowPolyPixel get you're referring to cars, but Velomobiles basically do just that too.
The fundamental problem with e-scooters is the lack of infrastructure. They're too slow for the street and too fast for the sidewalks. Unless your city has a robust bike lane infrastructure or is just so congested the average car goes less than 15mph, they're going to be dangerous. They do really solve the "last mile" problem of public transit though.
I have been riding one to work for a couple of years and this is the only real issue with it. There are no bike lanes and even the sidewalks are in a miserable state. At least its not a boring commute when you need to dodge holes and other obstacles. Its so extreme that two days ago one of the cooks from work fucked up her face real bad after tripping on a stray rock.
I will never understand the people who willingly vanalize these things, knocking them over or throwing them into rivers.
In Italy it's like the opposite. The scooters are usually kept in order in the street, few people still vandalized them and certain parts of the city have speed limit. I think we can all agree that the problem are the people, not the scooters.
In the video you make it look like it's the scooter' fault, they are not dangerous, people who use unproperly are. :(
the problem will always be the people
There would be no problems without people.
i agree that it is the peoples fault but a good product allows people to make mistakes and still, yknow, live.
@@aviateedits like cars?
That's wrong, they are inherently dangerous, since there isn't enough tolerance in user error or unexpected terrain handling. For example, a small rock is enough to completely knock someone off balance on these things. A simple increase in the size of wheels would make them significantly safer along with thicker (non solid rubber) tyres.
I absolutely love how our ordinary english fellow takes every opportunity to throw shade at the French that he can.
And LA
He throw shade at everyone. Going off facts....
Really like every outer nation the French are just there own taste of awful. Spiced up just to fit the funny stereotype of UK/French relations. But really there are very few worthy notes of positivity any country/state deserve to be parsed for. I can not think of a single one that do not in general have a bad stigma attached just to them. Germany... China. Japan. USA. Sweden. Russia etc etc.
19:10 pros go in the toe… learned that from finding a junky a nodding off in a porta pottie in New Orleans 20 years ago. That place will make you grow up real quick.