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  • čas přidán 19. 03. 2013
  • During this case study, I use this Ford as an opportunity to cover my O2 sensor circuit integrity test in great depth. I not only explain its value during diagnostics, but also try to address any concerns or questions you may have as far as any potential to harm a computer. We also get to see the interesting backup strategy employed by Ford for O2 sensor issues, and how this can potentially mislead you if you’re not aware of it.
    Engine Performance Diagnostics chapter 5
    Symptoms
    - check engine light (P1000, P1131)
    Fix
    - replaced the bank 1 sensor 1 O2 sensor
    Tests shown
    - using scan data (O2 signal and fuel trims) to evaluate O2 sensor performance
    - how to recognize closed loop operation using only short term fuel trims
    - understanding how a trouble code can change closed loop operation on some vehicles
    - how to configure data lists on a Snap-On Solus Pro
    - understanding Ford Keep Alive Memory (KAM) and why it’s important
    - how to use propane to check for a lean condition or a sensor problem
    - how to check for a bias voltage on an O2 signal circuit
    - using sensor-side O2 wire colors to identify signal and heater circuits without a diagram
    - how to perform an O2 signal circuit integrity test
    - understanding why having the sensor plugged in or unplugged is important
    - understanding current and voltage levels during the O2 signal circuit integrity test
    Tools used
    - scan tool
    - propane
    - incandescent test light
    - digital multimeter
    Playlist
    - (Chapters 4 and 5) Fuel Trim and Oxygen Sensor Testing
    • (Chapters 4 and 5) Fue...
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    For more information on this topic, I have written a “field manual” called Engine Performance Diagnostics which is available at www.scannerdanner.com as an eBook or paper book.
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Komentáře • 274

  • @michaelr6205
    @michaelr6205 Před rokem +14

    Worked at a half of dozen shops over the years, a lot of people hate on CZcams. Every good diag tech I bump into, knows about you and are fans of your content. Thanks for all your help Paul.

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před rokem +1

      This really means a lot to me. Thank you so much for the comment

  • @jamesbarratt593
    @jamesbarratt593 Před 7 lety +17

    Whenever I have issues with cars, I always type the problem into the search bar and add scannerdanner. Not interested in the other peoples videos. This guy explains his shit fluidly and leaves me excited to rush out to my vehicle and try the stuff. Awesome dude. 11/10. Ha ha.

  • @engineereuler1762
    @engineereuler1762 Před 2 lety +3

    Mr Danner. I know that this is an ancient video, but I am an engineer and I just found it and wanted to add something to your explanation. Your body's resistance is a few mega ohms, as is the cold sensor signal/ground pair and even the digital multimeter input circuit and the computer sensor input circuit (most people call it bias, but in electronics they call it open collector or high impedance). taking those mega ohm values into consideration where nothing is ideal makes the circuit voltage and current calculation a little different. There is a video for Eric (South main auto) and Ivan (pine hollow) where they have a truck with both sensors bad and Ivan shows that he carries in his tools a bunch of little resistors of different values. I think he did some trial and error and found that the best value was 22kohms or close. Thank you for all those years of great videos, I wish I can work for you as a helper for free one day as a form of payback. God bless

  • @michaelr6205
    @michaelr6205 Před rokem +1

    Started at a Ford dealership about 6 months ago, I'm the #2 Diag Tech. Been doing alot of factory training, so I haven't been watching your content for a while. Stumbled across this video, instantly remembered why I watched your content to begin with. Love it!

  • @Turbotomass
    @Turbotomass Před 11 lety +2

    Man, I've worked at a few different shops w/ numerous lead techs and no one is on your level. No one has the confidence and testing skills to confidently determine sensor, wiring, or computer in such an accurate/simple way. Your videos and ebook is a god sent.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +2

    Thank you so much for this comment! It is very nice of you to say this in a public setting. I owe you one

  • @rushbanskharookharoo8047
    @rushbanskharookharoo8047 Před 7 lety +4

    All I can say is you are great,,,,very good video,,, don't worry about your voice,,, you have a great voice you are not roaring,,, you got the right DB level of recordings,,,keep it up and thank you for all the helpful videos.

  • @tomsparenberg409
    @tomsparenberg409 Před 3 lety

    I was directed here from a forum post at Taurus Car Club of America, and I'm blown away. This is perfectly done, with everything well explained and shown. What a wonderful resource. Thanks for your dedication and excellent work ScannerDanner.

  • @GRUSSNewton
    @GRUSSNewton Před 11 lety +2

    It's like a episode of myth busters! I did some body signal integrity testing the other day. The guys in the workshop were amazed! Very educational video Paul.!

  • @user-pw8yu7nd7p
    @user-pw8yu7nd7p Před 5 lety +1

    There is nothing better than being able
    The teacher has the theory to apply it in practice
    We thank you

  • @odellkimes4497
    @odellkimes4497 Před 9 lety +2

    All I'm going to say is your videos are so informative and I've learned so much from them. Your a awesome teacher. Thanks for all that you do.

  • @user-uj1xg7hb2u
    @user-uj1xg7hb2u Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Paul, Let me give thanks for sharing the Knowledge on how to test the O2 sensors Using Bias Voltage and the PCM Response Testing. I'm assuring you that now I can take 3 Minutes to diagnosis Fault Codes about O2 sensors.
    Always on your back Danner ❤❤❤

  • @faustogonzalez8397
    @faustogonzalez8397 Před 6 lety +2

    Outstanding Paul, I like the way you illustrate irrelevant of the resistance in series with 12 v battery, you will still drop enough voltage into the O2 signal line to the CPU, to peg the CPU interperted signal voltage. You are a great teacher Paul by reinforcing your troubleshooting setups with backed up voltage signal readings.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @redsson6669
    @redsson6669 Před 11 lety +2

    another great video, without resetting the KAM, i would of immediately thought there was a PCM problem,would of thought erasing the code would have been enough.Great job Paul,i've learned so much from your channel,keep up the good work and im waiting for the new lectures to come out.

  • @ozzstars_cars
    @ozzstars_cars Před 11 lety +2

    Another awesome video. My favorite part was how you proved the myth that directly applying 12v to the O2 signal wire did NOT fry the computer, though the circuit is only designed for 1v of current. Looking forward to viewing part 2 on the MAF!

  • @steveguest8028
    @steveguest8028 Před 5 lety +1

    This is superb Paul,I particularly like the circuit integrity test using your body....Many Thanks 👍🏻

  • @Fran-yg4jp
    @Fran-yg4jp Před 7 měsíci

    Paul I have learned a lot from your videos even know I am a DIY . I always say " A Nosy Tech Is A good Tech " They want to find the rot cause of a issue not throw parts at it !

  • @billrimmer5596
    @billrimmer5596 Před 5 lety +4

    Super info. Especially since I’m working on a 2000 Taurus dead upstream O2. Got to this video thru Paul’s book. It links automatically to you tube. Sweet

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +3

    I agree and I believe the programming is set to not use the signal again until it crosses the 450mv threshold. I thought I did a good job showing the reaction maybe I needed to explain that part a little better

  • @retroguitarmaster
    @retroguitarmaster Před 11 lety +1

    I thank you Paul because you have taught me not to be a parts changer and to think outside the box, I have your book and its a tool much like my ratchet.

  • @TheMarkoo2
    @TheMarkoo2 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi thanks for the videos just to let you know we had a flat lean burn .02 volt 02 changed sensor computer tested signal circuit get worked great. Propane test still flat lean. A real stumper. The fix was to reinstall the plug wires that the previous shop installed incorrectly. Moral to the story is they measure oxygen not fuel. When the plugs finally lit the mixture oxygen was used up.

  • @SuperCarfix
    @SuperCarfix Před 11 lety

    Paul you had me at Hello.Just saying that you have been sending a rich signal with your test light or body to the O2 for 20 years is enough for me to be convinced that it is very safe . Thanks.And who the heck watched this awesome video and gave a thumb down?

  • @alabalanutnbolt
    @alabalanutnbolt Před 11 lety +1

    great video paul. if you made it 20 times on different vehicles I would still watch it . because it sometimes takes me that long to grasp things now.but its getting there.
    cheers.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    you are welcome and thanks for the comment

  • @fidstang
    @fidstang Před 11 lety +1

    Also, the way Ford did their code in these earlier ECM's, they check for dead sensors before startup. So it would ignore the bad sensor immediately and store that and LTFT data in its keep alive memory.

  • @faustogonzalez8397
    @faustogonzalez8397 Před 9 lety +1

    Paul, another outstanding troubleshooting video!!! Love your technique, much appreciated !!

  • @sivucit
    @sivucit Před 11 lety +1

    Thanks Paul, Nice video.. I learn one or other things in your every video.. all the tips and tweaks that u give are priceless. Simply amazing... keep it up and keep doing

  • @nickayivor8432
    @nickayivor8432 Před 2 lety

    Good Evening ScannerDanner take care and have a great day ScannerDanner 👍 God bless you ScannerDanner 👍
    Great tutorial thank you 👍
    From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧

  • @martyisabeliever
    @martyisabeliever Před 10 lety +1

    Exactly the test I need for what I'm working on great time saver... Thanks Paul again!

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +2

    I would like to hear your theory of how the O2 signal circuit is checked before start-up on this design. Ford does not use a bias voltage on either the signal or ground wire.
    The heater circuit can be monitored immediately, but I don't think the signal circuit can be on this design.
    I believe it ignores this sensor immediately due to a previous fault and will not use it again until it sees activity on the signal. (voltage must cross the set point of 450mv)

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    correct, and I did say that in one part of the video. we did have some amount of voltage drop through my body so there was some amount of current flow taking place.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +4

    this is a Ford thing, of course with the right scan tool too.
    On systems that do not offer this, a battery disconnect works too.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +1

    thanks for the tip Michael! makes sense, although I would think that the trim numbers would have had more of a swing due to the delayed reaction from the converter doing its job. So higher positives and deeper negatives and we weren't seeing that. it almost mirrored the other bank.

  • @MrNotorius-cv4yw
    @MrNotorius-cv4yw Před 10 lety +1

    So you can use your body for electrical circuit integrity testing. That's awesome!

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +4

    thank you so much. what a great compliment. great way to start my day.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +1

    It will not work on most other sensor circuits. There is too much resistance in your body. Check out my "signal circuit integrity update" video on how to do those types of circuits.

  • @user-pt5nx1np5t
    @user-pt5nx1np5t Před měsícem

    Hi Mr Paul I'm Salah from Oman 🇴🇲
    I had the same issue with my 2009 gmc terrain V6 engine .
    I had O2 sensor code,I looke at the live data and I noticed 1)open loop bank 2
    2) 0% STFT on bank 2
    Two evidences for a bad O2.
    I've replaced it and it's working now.

  • @jimenezautorepair4450
    @jimenezautorepair4450 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice video Mr. Danner I like all your videos and im learning from you thank you apriciate what you do for us thank you again!!!

  • @malisa696
    @malisa696 Před 11 lety

    Great video mister Paul. I always believe that giving 12V on O2 circuit trough our body we give 1V because of our resistance. Never thought to check that... :))) . Thanks for sharing this.

  • @davidkierzkowski
    @davidkierzkowski Před 10 lety

    excellent quick and in depth tutorial to o2 troubleshooting.. thanks!

  • @javiersolis4072
    @javiersolis4072 Před 11 lety

    HEY PAUL I GOT YOUR EBOOK I HAVE SEEN. GOOD VIDEOS IN OTHERS CHANNELS BUT YOURS. THE BEST. YOU ARRRRRRRRE THE MAN THANKS FOR SHARING

  • @RNN24
    @RNN24 Před 5 lety

    The BEST O2 video by far. Didn't leave any room for any doubt. Thank you for taking time sharing your experiences.

  • @manolocordovez9323
    @manolocordovez9323 Před 2 lety

    Very nice video, thanks for sharing!

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 Před 7 lety

    My guess would be that there is a zener diode across the input to the ECM clamping the voltage at 1.6 volts, and also probably a resister in series which is evident by the fact that the voltage at the t-pin was over 6 volts when touched. The purpose of the zener of course is to protect the input against over voltage input. Depending on the zener being used I would guess the maximum current would be somewhere between 0.5 and 1 amps. There's no way your body would ever provide enough conductance to get the current anywhere near those levels, so you're not in danger of damaging the input circuit in the ECM.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +2

    nice! that is exactly how I wanted it to be. a part of your "tool box"

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    thanks Frank, almost done with MAF sensors, it is a longer one. Then I am doing Section 20 after that (idle speed controls)

  • @oscarrojas4281
    @oscarrojas4281 Před 3 lety +1

    You are a great teacher

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    yep. one final check is the signal wire integrity. unplug the sensor and it should read near 5v on the signal wire. watch my latest video on testing the dpfe sensor for more help. it was on a taurus i think

  • @brenyz5013
    @brenyz5013 Před 2 lety

    Let’s face it the guy is good !!! . Thank you for this vid sir .

  • @fidstang
    @fidstang Před 11 lety

    True, but it does look for the switching of the signal like you stated. If it doesn't respond for a set amount of time the ECU registers a fault. It is stored in the keep alive memory, which the code looks for when the key is on. What I should have said is that if the keep alive memory isn't cleared, the programing will look for stored failure codes when the key is on. Thus ignoring that bank reading immediately. Sorry for the miss wording.

  • @kennydoolarchan9515
    @kennydoolarchan9515 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you use a AA battery (1.5 volts) to test the integrity of the signal wire on the Oxygen Sensor?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 2 lety

      Yes but the battery must be grounded to the car

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    I did not know that. If it has the ability to do that then I guess it is time to get one!

  • @OnYok1974kuwait
    @OnYok1974kuwait Před 8 lety

    great video about o2s,, but you did not put direct line positive in pcm o2s signal.. i have seen shorted burn signal positive/nega signal.. heater ground and positive heater,, but im currious about giving a direct 12v to the o2signal and afraid that it will fry the ecm..??

  • @jHuff-dm7lz
    @jHuff-dm7lz Před 11 lety

    Damn, it just keeps getting better!! Yipeeeeeeeeeee.
    Only need 23 more.......

  • @TROOPAVIC99
    @TROOPAVIC99 Před 10 lety

    I have the same problem with my 99 crown vic codes 1131 and 1152 I changed all 4 o2s and I have the same problem car runs lean so the pcm is trying to correct it but running rich how do I fix this problem and how can I erase the kam without using a solus pro??

  • @alirmeiti2542
    @alirmeiti2542 Před 4 lety

    Hi
    I have bmw 328i 2008
    The o2 sensor before the catalic is 2.04v
    When i unplug the sensor it’s stay at 2.04V
    No change so what’s wrong

  • @paulsimpson2232
    @paulsimpson2232 Před 8 měsíci

    ScannerDanner it's good to know you can just jump on these vids, sometimes I just need to refresh the old memory and get on the right path. Question doh ,did you have a check engine light on this fault..I have the same issue on a Vauxhall but no check engine light..did the checks ,changed the O2 and we are all good..so greatly appreciated for your time..❤
    But why does it not throw a check engine light.i guess we all comes across this scenario on other problems and we ask why no light......keep safe man ..

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 7 měsíci

      I dont remember? I think I was teaching a class

  • @interstategar
    @interstategar Před 5 lety

    Code P013A Bank 1 sensor 2 O2 sensor. '12 Ford E350, 5.4L flex fuel engine.Replaced the sensor still get the same code after driving about 140 miles straight or 1 stop and driving another 15 miles the next day. Wiring issue, PCM issue? Also when the ck eng light for this codem fuel gauge reads normal. Ck eng light not on, fuel gauge reads about 1/8 of a tank lower than what it should be. Any ideas?

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety

    thanks man, just keep this test limited to narrow band O2 sensors, wideband O2s are completely different in how the circuit is monitored. also this test is not needed on an O2 with a bias voltage on the signal wire.

  • @Xantylon74
    @Xantylon74 Před 2 lety

    1 test is missing in opinon. Would this Ford ECU clear the keep alive memory by itself and using the new O2, if you simply would have changed to a new sensor? Is clrearing the fault codes enough in this case or has he ECU to relearn. On some crazy Toyotas you need to clear the codes, unplug the MAF sensor, clearing the codes again and restart the engine to even accept a new O2 (wideband) sensor.

  • @MisterE103
    @MisterE103 Před 9 lety

    I replaced both updown and the one downstream O2 sensors on my Ford E250 ('98) with Motocraft sensors. Also changed plugs, air filter and that sensor that mounts to the EGR valve. I've also replaced the MAF sensor, sealed all vacuum leaks, no Sevice engine light and I can still smell strong raw hydrocarbon fumes in the exhaust. Can you point me in right direction here? Would a burned out Cat. result in these hydrocarbon fumes? My scanner shows normal readings, I think the max voltage is ~ .790 mV upstream and about the same downstream. I'm going to take a look at the fuel trims later after watching your video - Thanks, Reese

  • @emesiobikevin815
    @emesiobikevin815 Před 6 lety

    Great lectures, please I have an issue I would like to ask some questions, there in a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder in my workshop, customer complain that the vehicle take a lot of fuel, fault codes are P0488 and P0463. I’ve checked the resistance of the oxygen sensors, all the value seem to be within range, but I noticed that the MAF sensor has no activity with value stuck at .1g/s, the LTFT has no activity while the downstream oxygen sensors are stuck on 0.288 volts while the upstream sensors has very little activity and the ECT is about 187degrees centigrade, at high RPM of about 2500rpm the STFT drops tp -20 on bank 2 and -14 on bank 1. No fault code related to the oxygen sensor. I’m thinking it a wiring problem. What’s your take.

  • @frutbum
    @frutbum Před rokem

    Great lesson

  • @alexgonzales3305
    @alexgonzales3305 Před 9 lety

    Scanner Danner, I am having trouble with a 1996 chevy 1500 V8 vortec. The truck starts and idles fines and sounds great but... when you rev the motor it acts like it wants to die at 2000 RPM. Also when you put it in gear the ABS light comes on and the truck stumbles on its face like its hit limiter at 2k RPM, any thoughts?

  • @steveo3002
    @steveo3002 Před rokem

    thanks for this , learning alot

  • @mlb0611
    @mlb0611 Před 11 lety

    Paul, you are wrong, first time I have gotten to write that to you:) when the ecm finds a non responsive O2, on fords with 2 rear o2s, it trims off the working rear 02 on that bank so as soon after the KAM reset the ECM realized that O2 was dead, it started triming again from the rear O2, also always do a KAM reset on Fords clearing codes will not reset trims at all.

  • @oscar1105diaz
    @oscar1105diaz Před 11 lety

    Yeah you should check it out it also has a variable circuit braker that you can set to brake from 1 amp to I belive 65 amps

  • @mrthomson5582
    @mrthomson5582 Před 8 lety

    hi there , wondered if you can help a wee bit?
    my bank 1 sensor 1 is throwing out up to 800 plus and back down to low numbers that's constant, not sure if numbers be so high?
    my bank 1 sensor 2 numbers are matching the upstream 02 sensor numbers
    she failed emissions! I've bought new sensors so need to fit them once get old ones off!
    any thoughts would be something to look into b4 I go for new cat!

  • @elecktrofe2
    @elecktrofe2 Před 11 lety +2

    gracias!!! muy buenos videos y si voy a comprar el libro.

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +1

    that would probably work. just be sure to ground the battery to the car body. you need a complete loop

  • @gvvq-pi5ml
    @gvvq-pi5ml Před 9 lety

    Hi Paul i wondered how an LED test light would do testing the computer operation instead of you fingers....i made a tool once that went from zero to 1 volt, was just a small box with a 9 volt radio battery in, very small one, we call them PP3, i cant remember the circuit but i believe i connected the battery across the variable resistor via a switch in the battery line, and 2 wires came from middle and one outside terminal to the output leads, i believe there was a correction resistor to cut voltage from 9 volts down to 1 volt...it worked anyway, you just connect it across the O2 wires to the computer and set it where you like, make it run rich or lean or set it to 4.5 volts for average running...Fred in essex uk.

  • @bartscave
    @bartscave Před 5 lety

    I wonder how long it takes the computer to recognize the new O2 sensor and correct fuel trim. Or is it better to go ahead and reset KAM?

  • @mateiion3215
    @mateiion3215 Před 8 lety

    My ECU does the same. I've chnanged three O2 sensors till now. He doesnt see rich or lean condition, its fixed on his long and short term values. With new sensor work smooth for few days. O2 look's good for a period, than fixes to 0 volts, mil on and p0170 code. I've checked circuit with your method and ECU respond well, but he doesnt add or cut fuel.
    Rover 45 1,6 petrol with 1 bank.
    Sorry for bad english.

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 8 lety

      That's okay friend. It's good enough that I understand you. Nice job.
      As far as adding or subtracting fuel, the ECU may not respond to your simulated rich and lean conditions because it knows there is a fault in the circuit. So know matter what you do it will ignore the O2 signal.
      As far as why the O2 is working for a few days then not. It is either a wiring harness issue (shorted to ground) or you need to use a factory O2 sensor.
      I just completed a video on a Ford with an O2 harness issue. It will be a few weeks before I upload it.

    • @mateiion3215
      @mateiion3215 Před 8 lety

      Thank you, ScannerDanner !

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 8 lety

      for sure

  • @alexmessina3383
    @alexmessina3383 Před 5 lety

    Hi Paul ive just discovered that some of the thimble type zirconia o2 sensors do not have a PWM heater but rather a constant 12v. Thought a 2004 hyundai had a faulty driver but some research showed it is constant 12v ... but pulses at very beginning of warmnup cycle. Not seen much info on these and dont think u mention them? Have u had experience with them?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 5 lety

      yes of course! I have a ton of video talking about PWM heater circuits. This one in particular was really good,
      czcams.com/video/-lUYRqaYvYI/video.html
      czcams.com/video/gtTKOuu6EPw/video.html

  • @anisarfat
    @anisarfat Před 3 lety

    Many thanks for this very informative video. Can you please guide me some resourse to identify the signal wire on my ford explorer 2014, its a six pin adapter with five wires coming in to it. Searched a lot but struggling to find the right info.

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 3 lety

      I have some links here on where to get service info. Thanks!
      www.scannerdanner.com/forum/post-your-repair-questions-here/3757-need-service-info-check-here.html

  • @josmith5155
    @josmith5155 Před 4 lety

    What about testing the signal and earth circuit with just a DMM or test lamp? Could you use your body as a resistor between the red probe of DMM and above wires?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 4 lety +1

      you can do that and even use your ohm and diode scales as a source to do a signal circuit integrity test. I have a great series on this on my premium channel if you are interested www.scannerdanner.com/scannerdanner-premium-chapters/chapter-10-signal-circuit-integrity-testing.html
      There is a 14 day free trial and it is only $11 a month after. Hope to see you there!

  • @theoldwizard998
    @theoldwizard998 Před 11 lety

    IMHO the propane test was overkill. As soon as I saw the downstream sensor reacting, I would know with confidence that the upstream sensor was bad and gone the circuit integrity test.
    The strategy was probably using the downstream O2 sensor for fuel trim.
    Never would have thought to use "skin" as a high resistance test lead !
    I'm glad you said at the end that "current was flowing" and that the amount of current (likely in the microamp range) was just below the capability of the DMM.

  • @sukeshford2013
    @sukeshford2013 Před 8 lety

    very nice diagnosing

  • @MM0SDK
    @MM0SDK Před 10 lety

    +ScannerDanner Need some advice mate. My Hyundai Getz has MIL lit for P0036 & P0037 heater circuit fault. Bank 1 Sensor 1 is giving good on/off pulsing 450mV up & down. Bank 1 Sensor 2 with the fault code is just giving me a continuous 450mV which only drops very briefly to about 400mV when I blip the throttle. TPS is only going to about 78%, but I seem to remember is being able to rise 100%, but I might be wrong. What would be the easiest way to test the heater circuit for bank 1 sensor 2, as it is difficult to get access to the sensor. The Bank 1 Sensor 2 is really easy to get to at the exhaust manifold.
    Appreciate your advice on this. Thanks.

    • @slashnburndotcodotuk
      @slashnburndotcodotuk Před 9 lety

      Mark, you need to realise that an O2 sensor is, in fact 2 components in one. The actual sensor bit, which will return a fluctuating voltage (not pulsing) of around 0.1v to 0.9v, (sensor 1 - sensor 2 should fluctuate slightly around the 450mv range) and the heater. The heater acts like a diesel glow plug to quickly bring the sensor bit to operating temperature. This is a simple heater circuit, and totally separate from the sensor. Whether the sensor you want to access is difficult or not is irrelevant, you`re going to have to get at it at some point. Unplug it, test that you`ve got 12v at the heater circuit, harness side, then test that you have continuity through the sensor heater circuit....

  • @ScannerDanner
    @ScannerDanner  Před 11 lety +1

    Thank you Cesar!!

  • @user-yg6vq1kf7c
    @user-yg6vq1kf7c Před 4 měsíci

    G.N, if u did put d +lead of d merer on d + on d batt what would happen with that test.

  • @saurabhsharma-ts6ky
    @saurabhsharma-ts6ky Před 6 lety

    my car has only 1 bank and 1 O2 Sencer which is give me 830 to 890 mv reading
    O2b1s1= 830-890mv
    STFT B1S1= -25%
    LTFT B1S1= 95%
    PLEASE give me possible causes and suggestions.

  • @jHuff-dm7lz
    @jHuff-dm7lz Před 11 lety +1

    Silly me!!! I'm sorry, I was thinking, but why not just put a little jumper wire from a AA battery (1.5v). It would be a sort of regulated power source, for testing.

  • @fidstang
    @fidstang Před 11 lety

    I do believe that the programmers do a voltage check on the sensors and know the voltage drop should be between a certain percentage. I don't have proof, but during my tuning sessions with my EEC-IV/V vehicles I notice a sensor failure is registered if they fail to meet the number. An example is an aftermarket MAF reading below the minimum voltage that is set by OEM. I've seen it go into limp mode. Not sure on HEGO's by I have a feeling it is similar.

  • @michaelcox2648
    @michaelcox2648 Před rokem

    Hi Paul. Amazing material on all your videos. I want your advice. I have a todon phenix plus scanner and I want to buy a scope for it. Can you recommend a decent compatible scope for it please? Not sure on how many channels so can you recommend number of channels as well. Seen all your videos by the way. Found missing powers on ecm on my car thanks to you. Didn't know any car electrics before your vids. Electrician by trade so alot of what you teach makes perfect sense. Thinking of moving away from building electrics because I don't find it challenging enough. Want to become a tech like you 😉

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 11 měsíci

      I dont know anything about the Topdon scope. I have one for my Topdon Phoenix Max but I've never used it. It came with a really poor lead set, that may be partially why I haven't used it too.
      I'm sorry.
      But thank you so much! It's awesome to see how much the information transfers. Wishing you good providence on this path.

  • @oscaralarcon6695
    @oscaralarcon6695 Před 7 lety

    thanks for the new tips. Im learning more

  • @djamelabedennacerchiba3233

    Hello paul. But i have learnt with you. In closed loop .the computer uses all o2 sensors. In this video . Closed loop . But the computer doesnt using o2s11.

  • @Z14kt12timandjes1
    @Z14kt12timandjes1 Před 2 lety

    So is it safe to add propane to the air box of a mass air flow sensor engine, but it's not safe to add any sort of liquid fuel source, correct?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 2 lety +1

      It's risky with liquids as you could potentially damage the MAF but my brother does it all the time lol

  • @johnkimmel2612
    @johnkimmel2612 Před 7 lety

    Paul if the keep alive memory had not been cleared, would the learned LTFT on bank 1 have taken very long to come down to normal after the repair?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 7 lety

      It is becoming more and more difficult to answer questions here. I have 80,000 people asking me for help now. So I have created a forum to help you guys better. It is free to join and we can exchange pictures, wiring diagrams and waveforms if needed to help guide you through the process of troubleshooting your vehicle. Thank you so much! Hope to see you there.
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      www.scannerdanner.com/forum/post-your-repair-questions-here.html

  • @javiscancino
    @javiscancino Před 4 lety

    My 99 Jetta O2 sensor has 1.2v , if unpluged, it goes to 450mv, from what you said, wiring is ok, will take that, will put a new O2 sensor, will tell. thks

  • @jeremytaurus1
    @jeremytaurus1 Před 11 lety

    My 2000 Taurus will enter closed loop within 30-45 seconds even when at very cold ambient temperatures. My neighbor's Taurus is the same way.

  • @thewt
    @thewt Před 6 lety

    I have been drug around the bushes on one. 1996 Bronco. 5.8l EECV OBDII all the good stuff. Codes are for heater circuit faults. Test voltage at sensor I get battery voltage on both pins for the heater on all sensors. Live data shows they're cold at start up but after running it for a while the o2's report normally. Any ideas?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 6 lety

      Do both heater wires stay at 12 volts with it running? One should drop to ground. If it's staying at 12, you are missing a ground. This can go directly to the block on these older systems but I think yours are computer controlled.

    • @thewt
      @thewt Před 6 lety

      ScannerDanner, thanks for the suggestion. I haven't tried backprobing while running. Just tested while in run engine off. You are correct though, four wire sensor. Computer controlled ground.

  • @JOHNPHUFNAGEL
    @JOHNPHUFNAGEL Před 7 lety

    Oh crap!! I have been mis identifying the location of o2 sensors. I thought that O2S11, was upstream sensor bank 1, and O2S21 was downstream sensor bank 1. I am glad I rewatched this video cause I am trying to diagnose a taurus O2 problem, and that would have had me all F&*ked up :)

  • @metalhead9101
    @metalhead9101 Před rokem

    Can you apply some voltage by external power supply?

  • @whsein44
    @whsein44 Před 5 lety

    Sorry one question why the downstream sensor is not chaging its on "0"

  • @fivesquare9625
    @fivesquare9625 Před 3 lety

    You said you replaced o2 bank 1 sensor 1but demonstrated on bank 2 sensor 1. On this vehicle, where is bank 1 sensor 1?

  • @caribeltran9205
    @caribeltran9205 Před 11 lety

    continuation of previous post i dont know anything about cars but this was the problem they diagnosed:replace all this junction block,temperature switch and radiator relays after replacing that the fan works but still it overheats not too much just above the middle and after putting all that parts they test drive it and my car overheats while on traffic and MIL turn on comtinously now,

  • @user-uj1xg7hb2u
    @user-uj1xg7hb2u Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Paul, Question here, is it true that all Ford Cars uses No Bias Voltage For O2 sensors?

    • @ScannerDanner
      @ScannerDanner  Před 3 měsíci

      Not any Ford that I've ever measured it on.

  • @mlb0611
    @mlb0611 Před 11 lety

    you are used to thinking of the rear O2s for cat moniters, not rear fuel trim, iATN under resources Ford section you can read a little about rear Fuel trim.
    There is very little service info on rear fuel trim, in anything I have found.
    How would a,IIRR, town car stay in fuel control, with both front O2s dead? BTDT I work on a lot of fords,If you find a Lean/Rich codes and a stuck 02 you have 2/3 real codes to chase, also BTDT:) many times

  • @fidstang
    @fidstang Před 11 lety

    After clearing codes, I would have not included LTFT data and included loop state. When the STFT go from a large number to a smaller number suddenly you know the LTFT has been corrected.