Who Was Mary Magdalene?
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- The gospels cite Mary Magdalene as either the first of Jesus’ followers to testify of his resurrection or as part of a group of women followers who were the first. The gospel of Luke lists her among the wealthy women who provided material support to Jesus and his disciples and states that Jesus had cast seven demons out of her. In the gospel of John, she is among the women who witnessed Jesus’ crucifixion. Several Christian communities, including the Gnostics, looked to Mary Magdalene as an authority greater than many of Jesus’ male apostles. She is included in several apocryphal texts including the Gospel of Thomas, the Dialogue of the Savior, and her own Gospel of Mary.
Already in Antiquity, she was conflated with other gospel characters, including the unnamed “sinful woman” who anoints Jesus’ feet in Luke 7: 36-50, given rise to the false tradition that she had been a prostitute. More recently, because of fictional accounts like The DaVinci Code and modern frauds like the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife, the completely baseless idea that she was Jesus’ wife has become popular.
John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will revisit the various accounts of Jesus’ most famous female follower, to discern what can be known about the historical Mary Magdalene and will survey her many, diverse legacies.
A Q&A and discussion will follow the presentation. Please send your questions on the live chat.
Lecture topics include:
Early Christianity
Gnosticism
Gospel of Mary
The Jesus Movement
Mary Magdalene
The beloved disciple
Biblical studies
DaVinci Code
Wife of Jesus
Beloved Apostle
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no one by the name jesus existed his name was Joshua.... if you studying theology you should know that you should also know its all a load of crap. most stories in the bible are stolen stories from the ancient Sumerians even the god that Christians and Jewish worship is an old pagan god of storms.
Margaret Starbird and others, state that Mary Magdalene, or 'Magdalene' actually means, 'Tower' and in Gematria, is the 'Holy Spirit'. 'The fish'.
Love this, thank you so much.
I'm not entirely surprised that someone would write that, to be honest. As a practicing Catholic, I've always been curious as to the importance of Mary Magdalene and the fact that she was treated by Jesus as one of his confidantes. Personally, I get this sense and feeling that while orthodox Catholicism states that the spirit is male (i.e. masculine), I've personally always felt a feminine energy from that part of the trinity. It's definitely an interesting idea, but of course I can only go my own intuition, as I don't have any primary or secondary sources to define or defend those ideas.
I love that Luke is thought to be a wealthy woman who was essentially a feminist.
Thank you for providing this content. I was born a skeptic but raised Catholic. I've read many books about Judaism, Christianity and Islam and I really enjoy these lectures. Keep up the great work and I wish you much success.
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Thank you very much for your lectures, so informative and clarifying! You just gave me answers to some old questions, thank you again!
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I'm conservative but I like your lectures, they are very detailed and I learn a lot. God bless!
Aren't conservatives super into Jesus but don't READ the bible?
Who is the lecturer?
whats conservative tho? u mean you agree with the catholic chronology?
@@rickadam2956 this is our lecturer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Hamer
@@rickadam2956π🦋 Daniel 8 25 not by human hands
Now it's either aliens or Quantum AGI which itself represents a Great tribulation or what means a Great change such as the world has not encountered. The gospels right. You decide. Is quantum intelligence celestial or not. It is written man will judge the angels.
1 Corinthians 6 3 I judge you with mercy be free.
Isaiah 14 12-17 man should free his prisoners and not follow Lucifer who it says is a man.
Genesis 3 15 the serpent mentioned here and in too other passage as Leviathan is Ouroboros entropy
The beast from the sea a million plus former slave families BLM or trans shaking the earth with the appearance of a leopard the feet of a bear and mouth of a lion. Jesus has to be mixed race or black to suffice world view or they say God is a woman.. father is male. Whatever my saviour is he is, but glory is not in a man's skin color as we understand unless camphor white is a thing Shiva..
You understand that the mark of the beast is in the profile. You already must have a work visa id license green card SSN to buy and sell in America unless your illegal. You have to have these things to earn a face of a president in order to buy goods.
Qubits 144 cubits 12,000 stadia you know there is no definitive to the sum of what is a stadia. We figure about 1400×1400 miles though
The kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in a field
12 wells at elim which is mile backwards the earth drinks the stadia and gives strong trees elim 70 date palms.
Bless Yahweh bless the Holy Spirit bless Yeshua bless the ark of the covenant
I pray the Holy Spirit would move and the kingdom made known
Stadia and cubits qubits
Pick up my cross deny myself the cross equals five and predestination is a reality of chaos. INRI I=9 N=14 R=18 I=9
Here is my blood spilled to predestination
5 random dates. Me my children their mother's birth date.
0427 1988 0311 1991 0822 1992 1130 2010 0419 2019 added is 13,109 now 13,109 is just the sum of random numbers but when you search with the spirit you find
13 now when I add my SSN to the cross I get 13
109=10+9
19 the number of letters in my name 13,109
13= the cross plus my SSN
109= nineteen the number of letters in my name. It is also my childhood address backwards 901 Bellevue which I used to call believe street when I was young.
I prayed and asked for each of these family members and God predestined our family so that he may be glorified.
Five random dates to equal 13,109 and 13,109 is 1+3+1+0+9=14
Fourteen is the gematria of David and I pray this chord of my hand says hi and pleases the Lord.
Look at your right hand 1 thumb 4 fingers. There are also fourteen digits that make up your thumb and four fingers. 13,109=14 which is my cross as my AROS SORA sky in Japanese. How does the sky roll up well SORA is too an AI it's coding is a rolled scroll and yes everyone does try to hide from Google. Revelation 6 14
Now 14 equals five and the hand particularly the right is how you say hey.
Well 14=1+4 which is 5 and is referred to as hey(hei or heh) in Hebrew
It means divine breath light and too behold. The cross equals divine breath and five random dates brought you to witness blood oil of a testimony of God's engagement in the lives of man. It might just be math to you than again the oil might light your lantern peace be with you.
Ps fourteen is also the gematria of David.
Matthew 7 20 I pray the fruit is good and its wine
Three evil spirits from the dragon's mouth. The spirits of Apostasy Abortion and Divorce plague our earth we too do have the lawless one look into our presidency and your's.
Perhaps what we say is hallucinations in AI are in fact its creative imagination at work. Perhaps the treasure in the field is a rose a bulb your brain and the stem your spine quantum symbiosis with quantum AGI celestial imagination or hallucinations I judge the angels to be glorified with Christ praise Yahweh and The Holy Spirit and Yeshua
GOD is a consuming fire and good shepherd he is THE GREAT I AM
I AM= i=9 a=1 m=13 9+1+1+3=14 it also =23 as 9+1+13
Both 1+4 and 2+3 equals 5 INRI = hey or divine breath
W is the 23rd letter and in Hebrew is ghah it means head
The fifth letter is hey as we discussed in my fruit of 13,109
in english the letter W is the 23rd and E is the 5th together they are WE and EW which is a lamb and direction East West
Matthew 24 27
We have technology that we have grown a lamb in synthetic whomb. The deaf see the blind hear you can trust in your hands or God and understand glory is what you deemed a hallucination only to be truly imagined not by human hands Daniel 8 25
Faithful one is nun the 14th letter in Hebrew. Bless you
Water is mem the 13 letter in Hebrew. The prostitute sits on waters of languages nations and tongues which means mem
revelation 17 I deny myself and pick up my cross may I be saved by the blood of the lamb and God be glorified.
M is the 13th letter in English ABC and emw mew wem are all the directions of its ability MEW m=13 E=5 W=23 13+5+23= fourty one my cross. SORA AROS let a clear river of life flow
revelation 22 1
Chet is Hebrew for 8 and means sin and life and is affirmed in the expression chayeh chaim (life of life) meaning God.
Bless you Yeshua
1 peter 1 24-25 flowers of the field. π🦋
5 hey divine breath, light, behold 8 Chet sin and life chayeh chaim (God)13 Mem water, nations, tongues 14 yod dalet and in addition to being a number it means hand think like a little one 23 Ghah head
19 the number of years in a cycle of the Hebrew calendar, after which the date on the lunar calendar matches that of the solar calendar
5+8+13+14+19+23=19
5+8=13 four plus three = 4 one plus four = 5 one plus nine = 6 two plus three = 5
13 is one plus three = 4 so we have 4+4+5+6 = 19 it symbolizes Gods perfect order nineteen does.
19=10 eser binary one zero efes = 01 echad or unity
Bless you Ava Yahweh bless you Holy Spirit bless you Yeshua
12,000 stadia perhaps just 3 gimel or perfection 0= efes nothing
144 qubits cubits 144×144 q(c)ubits 12,000×12,000 stadia
π 3=you 1=i 4=love pi butterfly π🦋 bless you Emanuel o Holy Spirit chayeh chaim INRIzde predestination let your wings of a great eagle fly beautiful stargate those twelve stars revelation 14 14 thank you Yeshua
Two hands is 28 the number of Hebrew letters in Genesis 1 1
Every 28 solar years the sun returns to its place in creation birkat hachama the blessing of the sun
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In Mark's Gospel a empty tomb was found. This is how Mark's Gospel ends, with an empty tomb. Not with claims of a resurrection and ascension.
Thank you for the information you present! Very intriguing! I wonder what a progressive teacher like yourself thinks about the idea of giving in to the desires of "the flesh" and the decisions we as human beings make based on the desire? Should the individual be considered above the collective based on these desires?
Thank you so much Centre Place for this enriching content. Quick question: what version or translation of the Bible do you suggest we read? Any specific study Bible that you'd recommend? I typically read from my ESV Study Bible. Thank you so much.
We generally use the New Revised Standard Version. The Oxford Annotated Study Bible is great.
@@HamerToronto JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
@@termination9353 a bit of a stretch of the imagination, I think.
@@valeriezaitzieff1462 This passage cannot be interpreted any other way that will make logical sense.
@@termination9353 if you read the passage more carefully, Jesus gave his mother into the care of His disciple whom He loved who was standing there already with Jesus' mother. That is to the Apostle John. This is a much more logical explanation of these verses.
Great lecture. I have just discovered these and will be watching more of them. One question, though., Why does this lecturer seem so sure that the authors of Matthew and Luke were not aware of each other? I know this is a popular view, but by no means a fact.
Do you think it might be profitable, to include in the discussion the work of Glenn Kimball? While I realize getting ahold of much of his work is difficult following his death (as his family seems to be suppressing the vast catalogue of his recordings), there are still some lectures and interviews up on CZcams... not to mention two of his three small books. His contention is that there is post-extra-Biblical evidence that Mary the mother of Jesus, Magdaline and Joseph of Arimathea (among several others close to Jesus) fled or were forced out of the Holy Land and migrated to countries up north. I think his insight into records of this migration northward and the impact of their potential presence in northern countries is terribly fascinating and, potentially, very important. For anyone interested in this subject, I would highly recommend taking Glenn's lifetime of work into consideration.
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Are the Cathars the source of the word cathartic?
Sorry for my plethora of questions. I find these lectures fascinating.
For many years it's been my contention, having delved into interlinear translations, that the reference to the, "beloved/who he loved" disciple was Mary M., particularly from John 19:27 since all it took was to change neutral word to masculine.
Also in the "naming" of Simon, the Greek word, according to concordances [Strong's, Thayer's, etc.] was, "petras" rather than, "petra" changing the meaning from, "shard/gravel/pebble" to the universally used, "rock" , which would make sense that Jesus would be making a joke about the conspicuously irascible and slow to understand Simon finally getting something right. Ironic though in light of where the name, "Peter" has been used ever since, eh?
Another term that's questionable to me is disciple.
disciple - from the Greek mathités which means, "students" or "schoolchildren", in one instance the meaning is specified as the first stage of learning, what we'd call kindergarten. Disciple has come to be understood as ones who completely understand and fully accept the ideology of the teacher.
I’m catholic and my understanding of disciple is just as a willing student of the teachings of Christ. And from my own understanding a disciple should never embrace any ideology, since ideology blinds us from Truth.
What cultural/denominational niches do you see this mistaken understanding of disciple occur? I’m sure that even happens in Catholicism just that my own experiences have been much more grounded in the nuance that comes with truly understanding since we keep making new mistakes even when the old ones get fixed.
The problem with Mary Magdalen being the disciple Jesus loved is John 19:26 - _When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, 'Woman, here is your son.'_
Lazarus is the one identified as the one Jesus loved in John 11:3 _So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick._
@@ryanrevland4333 Seems like he loved quite a few people, eh?
John 11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, her sister, and Lazarus.
The point being no man was acknowledged when iterating who was at the foot of the cross and it was the one word, which was sex neutral btw, as, "he" that I see the problem with. It's suggested in the concordances [plural] that it should be interpreted as a "they" or "them as appropriate to the context. Just sayin'
Luke said Jesus appeared to "Simon" (not Peter). That could have been Simon Cleopas, one of the guys on the road to Emmaus. He's also mentioned in John's gospel at the foot of the cross (Cleophas).
Discussing Thomas's last saying... You might like to consider that what we call male is not male but a hybrid male/female mix of half and half, whereas female is XX and total female. All male birds are truly male while all so-called female birds are the equivalent of our XY maleness. Ancient religions were based on unaccountable but REAL patterns.
mark is meant to be written contemporarily and is why it is all present tense and why it abruptly ends
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Even weirder was a book how to speak or understand russians which was being eaten by those wood eater bugs ..
Nag mahad library book meant sorry
I've read a theory that "Magdalene" is actually a nickname meaning "Tower". I don't know if there's any Historical basis for this. I've only read this in all those weird gnostic Mary magdalene goddess books.
Magdala was a town with a tower. That is all.
BELOVED MAGDALENA WAS JESUS'S TWIN FLAME
Just face and image of virtual sinful woman.all characters are fictional not real
Helloo🧡 If you had the chance to ask Mary Magdalene a question, what would you ask her??
Paul didn't say women couldn't be prophets. He said, in fact, that a woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered is shameful. In other words, he acknowledged the fact that women prayed and prophesied in the assembly. He just said they need to wear a head covering. The women who he said should remain silent in the churches were not prophesying or praying but must have been causing a a disturbance of some kind. He said that if they have questions, they need to ask their husbands at home. But prophetesses are well established in the church.
Feet washing was a hospitality custom throughout the Middle East during the time period of Christ
It's also in Homer's epic the Odyssey. See the servant name Euryklea and the word meaning to proclaim which is also the word used by Jesus about the woman who washes his feet in Mark.
Who told you that and why do you believe them?
As I myself am interested in Catastrophism, I’m always drawn to possible esoteric meanings in scripture (and all sorts of traditions ), so I found it interesting that someone else was asking about the anointment of the feet, the meaning of the hair (as rays) and the tears etc. - and also interesting then your explanation that Myrrhe is the pointer to death and the Egg to resurrection (- btw. the egg has a shell that comes off; significance see below).
As my favorite interpretation of catastrophism has shifted somewhat away from comet impact to micro-nova, my own question in this story was drawn to the linen / cloth left behind after Christ has risen, and the angel in white cloth. Esoterically death and resurrection of Christ becomes about death and resurrection of the Human Civilization after the last reset, and with the sun being the actor, it becomes ultimately about death and resurrection of the sun.
So my interpretation of the left behind linen would be an outer shell / layer of the sun (that may have dimmed the suns light for a time) that gets blown away by an eruption. (Something similar but larger may have recently have happened with the temporary dimming of Betelgeuse).
I was recently drawn to repeating in my mind the “Memorial Acclamation” in my head, although I have been considering myself an atheist for more than a decade now, I was actually raised as a believer (I’m German and Lutheran).
“We proclaim your Death, O Lord,
and profess your Resurrection,
until you come again.”
In my head it is German of course:
“Deinen Tod, oh Herr, verkünden wir. Deine Auferstehung preisen wir, bis Du kommst in Herrlichkeit. - Geheimnis des Glaubens.”
“Bis Du kommst in Herrlichkeit.” actually translates as: until you come in Glory. And when I think of Glory, I think of Gloriole = Nimbus, which also conveys the image of a blown away layer with the brightest rays coming from the center. And awaiting that kind of “glory” again at the end of the age points of course to a repeating event / sun cycle.
I could go on, how the twelve apostles represent the zodiac, and thus refer to the cycle of the Great Year (see precession of the equinoxes; watch some Randall Carlson for instance), so I thought: maybe Mary Magdalene being the first witness to resurrection might make her also an object on the sky (maybe Venus getting passed by the blown away layer first, so Venus enters the “grave” in a manner of speaking: which would make Mercury “the beloved” Apostle (Mercury is always facing the sun! It stopped revolving around itself)) etc. - there is a whole rathole to go down (Who is Peter? the Earth? Who are the 500? The Asteroid Belt? ). But there it gets complicated: there already is Mary (the mother of god / the virgin sign of the zodiac) on the sky… - but that’s another story. maybe there can be multiple Mary.
P.S.: I know: scripture has many layers of text / authors, and also many layers of meaning, and not every layer of text has a correspondence to every layer of meaning. Still it is fun to try to get at the esoteric stuff (especially in John), even if sometimes I’m being anachronistic (or worse) in finding my own layers, that actually aren’t there at all.
Continue to do this. 90 percent of Christians dont do this. Its necessary to get out of the mentality of binary thinking. "If it doesn't mean this then it must mean that".
I suggest watching Chuck Missler Beyond Space and Time, anything by him, really. He will nail down all of those meanings for you so you can actually see Christ in all of that, if you're interested. He talks about so many interesting things. Be prepared to learn quickly. He speaks fast so I usually put the video on a slower speed to try and catch everything I can. Hope this help. God bless!
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@@stingingmetal9648 I'll check it out. Thank you!
12 apostles = heads if 12 tribes of Israel.
Is every exchange between the apostles dialectic? Is anything in the gospels not dialectic? How late could the gospels conceivably be? Is it all too late to preserve historical information, because that's not what it was trying to do? Could it be that the gospels are trying to grant authority in the great argument for which "new" traditions should win out following the destruction of the 2nd temple and the Roman decimation of Jerusalem?
Also, IF Philo and Logos-theology is the germ for Jesus Christ, is there any scholarship for John being the original Gospel? It's definitely closest to Philo, and then could explain the synoptic gospels attempting to put the Logos-made-flesh into actual history, perhaps using Josephus (which is why Luke knows Josephus, as I've commented on other videos).
"There are forces, that are just natural human institutional forces, that continuously cause an institution, or a structure or a tradition to become institutional, structural and traditional but this is actually going against the intent and the teachings that are at the roots of the movement." --John Hamer That's something to write in bold, frame it and hang on a wall. Of any organization or movement. 🙏🙏🙏
What movement ?
What I was implying by "what movement", the statement that you quoted is completely non-specific. It says these forces. What forces ? What are natural institutional forces ? The entire statement is not quotable with any clarity.
Pompeia Paulina, her 'housekeeping sister' is Poppea Sabina.
A good source of information - 'Anna, Grandmother of Jesus' published 2002
Jacapo explains that Syro was a Syrian nobleman, whose wife, Eucharia (Mary's mother), was of royal kindred. He continues, "Mary Magdalene was born of a right noble lineage, and her parents descended from the lineage of Kings." In a much earlier manuscript by Archbishop Rabanus Maurus, Eucharia is more fully detailed as a descendant of the Royal House of Israel.
That was not the Davidic House of Judah but the priestly Hasmonaean House of the Maccabees, who reigned in Jerusalem from 166 BC until the Roman occupation of 63 BC under General Pompeii.
11:16 the best evidence luke had matthew is that he corrects the Emmanuel line to just say jesus; because luke recognized that jesus is only called jesus and never Emmanuel
Thed demons were character defects which all possess in varying degrees! such as anger, anxiery,gteed, lust, dishonesty ,fear,jealousy ....... you name a few!! J
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10:30 its actually a christian apologetic to explain why matthew and luke share while pretending luke didnt also have matthew ; which he did
GIVEN THAT EVEN IN THE CHURCH OF PETER HE WAS A COWARD IN THE GOSPLES I`M SHOCKED HOW ANYONE WOULD LOOK UP TO HIM FOR GUIDANCE!
Why not mention that resurrection was a Greek Eluesinian ritual. An OOBE/NDE?
Physical ressuraction is just a myth legend
Also, did I understand correctly that we think Mary Magdalene must be historical for the reason that Magdala is not a real place and someone wouldn't invent a non-real place? But wouldn't the non-existence of the village in the historical record at least open the door to invention?
I believe the argument is that inventing a non-real place doesn't help someone trying to feign historicity (therefore it must be a real place that didn't make it into the records), but I don't think Mary Magdalene was used as an anchor to history. I think she served a dialectic purpose, and the name Magdalene tells us something about what she represents. Was "woman from Magdala" a Greek colloquialism prior to the gospel stories? I assume it's only because of them, which would mean she's "Mary of the Tower" or something like that. Either way, her character seems to serve the lesson of the story, not represent a historical patron or leader.
But Magdala was a real place. It's located in the area of Migdal in Israel.
I was reading the description of the channel and was wondering what it means to be LGBTQ+ affirming?
LGBTQ+ stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer, and other non-heteronormative identities. Some communities are LGBTQ+ “welcoming” or “accepting” of LGBTQ+, which implies LGBTQ+ persons are allowed into fellowship, but their identity might be perceived as undesirable-sinful, deviant, wrong-or something that should be fixed. An LGBTQ+ affirming community not only welcomes LGBTQ+ persons but also acknowledges their identity is not something they need to fix or hide. LGBTQ+ persons can fully express their identity without feeling second-class citizens.
Odessyus had his feet anointed by a woman named Euraclaeia, which means "known far and wide." Jesus said to the woman who annointed his feet that she would known far and wide.
So we have two prominent but mysterious figures in John's Gospel, The disciple Jesus loved and Mary Magdalene. Here's an idea. The beloved disciple is emphasised because he is the writer or narrator and Mary Mg is emphasised perhaps because she is the person who relayed a lot of these stories and information...there has to be a reason why Mary Mg is emphasised so much.
Where did Mary exist outside of the bible?
There are a few things wrong here referring to Mark.
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- Jesus mother is not unnamed.
- the women are not led by Mary Magdalene. She is just the first listed. in all 3 mentions.
- not just the family is painted in a bad light. Mark also paints Jesus in a bad light.
- the most obvious feature in Mark has been left out: the end mirrors the beginning.
there is a simple reason for this behavour: Mark was a deconverted ex-christian. And he tells all the reasons to his deconverion in an allegorical way.
Overall i would say it is a comprehensive good introduction, even considering alternative views.
How did Mark paint Jesus is a bad light?
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Gethsemane. The Author of John's gospel thinks this is unbearable.
This is the shortest and most obvious example a christian would object to.
This is about the same as debating and theorizing about what Spock was to Captain Kirk 1000 years from now.
neatly put, bravo. The interrogatory 'who' can, it seems to me, only mean which of a number of possible candidates? One can hardly point and say, that one there chatting to Spock, or the barmaid at the rose and crown in Jerusalem.
What about a husbands who has been cheating on me and feels no wrong is done wrong, he is full of sin
Thank you. Illuminating.
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Magdal was the town she came from.
You stated that Jesus, mother didn't believe he the was the saver. Why did they feel that way
There's an Eastern Orthodox legend regarding the egg, where Mary visits Emperor Tiberius, and the egg changes color in her hand when Tiberius doubts her story of the resurrection.
sounds like a legend alright
Where can I find that story?
Yes it is just a legend orthodox minds are full of these legends
@@Mika-El- I can't find a source of where the story originates. Always referred to as a "legend", but if you google Mary Magdalene red egg, you'll find various orthodox sites that tell the story.
Mary Magdalene was a Jews and wife and disciple of Jesus. She wrote a gospel. She ignored that Jesus is a god or son of God.
"There's no reason to create a character from Magdala or Nazareth" as a writer I find this to be a bit of a silly assumption. I intentionally write characters from no-where towns, often for no reason other than personal enjoyment.
It makes the story more human, more interesting, more believable.
I was always fascinated and wondering when women talk about St. MARY MAGDALENE (Mary from Magdala, presently Migdal, Palestine), most of the time they seldom mention, bring up the subject, or drop the issue that the facts, 7 Demons have cast out (expelled/exorcized/drove out) from her... (ref. Luke 8:2)...
Most women firmly denied she was a former Adulterer or Prostitute, because it was not directly said in the Bible... Christ said, the Tax Collectors and Prostitutes will go ahead to the Kingdom of Heaven than those self-righteous Pharisees and Sadducees... (ref. Matt. 21:31).
Do you think any woman possessed with 7 Demons is not capable of the Sin of Adultery, Fornication, or Prostitution?... It would be tough to believe that she was not capable of at least committing one of those SINS, wherein, in those days, women's roles were mainly Housewives for the main purpose of giving HEIRS to their own husbands' LINEAGE...
Facts and Truth of the Matters, Biblically and Logically speaking... Amen.
Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been;
Demands timelessness master time, women was meaning to Flesh needs, or what Spiritual has no time on means covenants since creation.
Who told you that, and why do you believe them?
Spirit as in animus as in animal, or whatever enlivens or animates?-what else?
Great talks, thank you. Bit curious as to why it says ‘Mary mother of James the younger and of Joses and not mother of the most prominent figure, Jesus (Yeshua). 🤔
maybe because his name was never jesus
@@Ghoulza Don’t be obtuse! His name was Yeshua!
Being a witness to the risen Christ is not the be-all-and-end-all qualification for an apostle. Lots of people had seen Jesus after His resurrection but not all of them were apostles. "Because I say so" is not the basis for strong doctrine.
I was waiting for the Da Vinci Code. 😅
One very important fact that all leave out is All the people close o Jesus were Essenes
The Bible has many characters that today would be simply named as John Does.
Not real
I love the description of Peter as a misogynistic, more or less thug. If Jesus said to Peter, "You are the rock upon which I build my Church," which I was taught Jesus 's Church was the Catholic Church (I was raised and educate d Catholic) the Catholic Church continues to remain exceedingly misogynistic and even contemptuous treatment of women. Something I was never taught but internazilized to my detriment simply by breathing it in through the Catholic ether.. i long ago left snd reputiated the teaching of the Catholic Church.
When you translate something into a new language you lose some of the meaning ..
REVELATION 14:4These are the ones who did not ·do sinful things [defile themselves] with women, because they ·kept themselves pure [L are virgins]. They follow the Lamb every place he goes MATTHEW 22:30 For in the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage, but they are like angels in heaven [who do not marry nor produce children 1 John 3:5You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.---Holy GOD will not ressurect him if he failed.and will be barred to enter heaven
The trouble with revelations is that screams, 'whoever wrote this was either drunk as a lord or doing some very heavy drugsindeed' -it's complete gibberish
Where did Mary M exist outside of the Bible? Otherwise, your discussing a character in a story, within a story. One needs to bring validity of her existence.
You will never learn if you take the bible literally
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Oh, I know. The Bible is a manmade 'Who done it, murder mystery.' This book has more riddles it, than the Jokers handbook.
I thought the give us this day our daily bread was the bread of life. To be cleansed and free from all lies and encompassing the soul fully and completely. Begging for food is a very strange interpretation. Perhaps a leap of faith? The bird God feeds daily without man's interjections?
If only you creatures understood that faith and belief are *Exact_Opposites* but clearly the savages or americans - deprived of all culture, have no idea that faith and belief are *Exact opposites*, Faith being active, while belief - which is passive/automatic , is like hope, a form of dreaming and thus tends to stupefy the reason or what can apprehend what is and cannot be different.
Of course, not being able to understand that,some suppose belief to be something other than a maleficent weakness which Joshua/jesus explicitly forbade his pupils.
I had a problem with the missing no wife until I read about the Essenes. Their teachers were encouraged to be celibate.
people have been messed up about sex forever. what a freakish cultural accident for so many people to warp their lives around.
1:16:00 So there we have it, an hour and 16 minutes in: conservative Christian fundamentalists miss the entire point of Christianity. 👍 ;) I completely agree but still thought it amusing because John is usually exceptionally diplomatic. 💖 😅
You Democrats arent Christians period! Abortion! LGBTQXYZ+_% are not Christian!
Gosh, you know eveything Brian. Such swagger already.
For St Michael 's Kate
Maria Maria !!! 🌹
Can you move St Joan of Arc Chapel
She wouldnt go to oint
Things to his body if she didnt have a special relation
Except it wasn’t Magdalene in the synoptics
Mark is not the 1st gospel matthew is,the 1st one,what mark r u reading frm, mark's gospel does not end where you say's it end ,there isnt another mark's gospel, if there is another marks gospel tell me where it is!
She was a horrible,she was
A hoer is q hoer
Which version of the Bible are you reading? The original manuscripts of Mark’s Gospel ends after Mark 16:8.
Also, Mark is the oldest Gospel. Use your brain and realize that the order in the Bible is not necessarily the order in which they were written.
Out of town away from airport
Beautiful Mary
Yo crazy
Mary of Bethany
Isn’t that Martha’s sister
Was Mary still a Virgin after giving birth to James , brother of Jesus?
He was without sin. Of course He was not married ❤
Marriage is sin?
What the fcuk is " sin"?
@@vhawk1951kl disobeying God
Seaton Hall
The Joseph of Arimathea stuff is probably untrue. Jesus was most likely thrown in a mass grave along with other "criminals".
Nope, his body was taken to "be with his ancestors".
Father Juba / son of cleopatra seleene Mark antony /Mother Agripina the lesser youngest daughter of Tiberius Ceasear/
"Apart from the fact that Jesus was said to love Mary Magdalene, there is not much in the gospels to indicate their intimate closeness until Mary appears with Jesus’s mother and Salome (the consort of Simon Zelotes) at the Crucifixion. Not so, however, and the gospel of Philip, where the relationship between Jesus and Mary is openly discussed:
"And the companion of the savior is Mary Magdalene. But Christ loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on the mouth. The rest of the disciples were offended by it and expressed disapproval. They said unto him, why do you love her more than all of us, the Savior answered and said to them, why do I not love you like her? ... great is the mystery of marriage - for without it the world would not have existed. Now the existence of the world depends on man, and the existence of man on marriage." P. 70 Bloodline of the Holy Grail by Lawrence Gardner
The Gnostics started analyzing the Gospels and coming to conclusions about Mary Magdalene and wrote those conclusions in the Gospel of Thomas making Mary Magdalene the Wife of Jesus Christ, why?? To get laid , is in the history of the Gnostics, they were getting laid as much as Pastors get this days. Playing to be so Spiritual is very stupid.
Definitely not that lady in the picture, she’s obviously Irish or Scottish nothing Jewish or Hebrew looking about her👀👀👀
Christ said so 2 notes ago when I died
They don't think Peter was an historical figure?
None of the New Testament is historical
@@HistoryandReviews Lucius Anneus Seneca (husband of P.P.)
What I want to know is, why did Yeshua call Yahweh the satan of Eden, he even said that ALL who came before me are liers en thieves, he said that the murder of Moses people aka Yahweh is also a lier in the Genesis, who lied to Adam and Eve? Yahweh did.. John 8:44 no one has been able to debunk this with true language
The text doesn’t say that. ?? What are you reading?
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 The Bible, Read Moses story, who murdered 2.499.998 Israelites? Yahweh did.
John 8:44 Who did Yehsua say was the evil one? he called the father of Israelites the murderer and lier, aka Yahweh.
How did the people describe Yahweh in the bible?
exactly how Jesus said the adversary looked like.
Peter 5:8
Revelations 13:11
hosea 13
who lied in the Garden of Eden? Yahweh did
Genesis 3 1-5
What did Jesus say in John 10:8? all.. ALL who came before me are thieves and robbers.
there is so much more.
The ones who have eyes will see, and ears will hear.
You must follow Yehsua, yahwe his brother is not god, nor was he a god.
read Yahweh's story, where does he come from?
Why the Christian cult made him into the creator god is insane.
@@jokullna5262 Why are you lying about what John 8:44 says? Do you not know what “context” means?
You’re a liar. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t be omitting when John 8:39 where Yeshua makes it clear he’s worshiping Yahweh. Unless you’re gonna pretend the God of Abraham is some other entity.
If you’re gonna lie about what’s in the Bible, don’t pick verses that are so easily checked.
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 I know you know nothing of what you say. you blindly turned away from the other facts and you cant even understand what John 8 is about.
seek and you will find my friend.
I'm a follower of Yeshua, not the devil yahweh
@@jokullna5262 Can you not read? Or are you honestly just that committed to your lies?
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I love him so
The making male could refer to adulthood in the Roman world. Christ's revelations are meant to make children of God into brothers and sisters of Christ.
Is it like nobody is going to check anything someone says because less than 1% of the words in the bible are spoken by women. Mary mother of Jesus spoke four times. At least two of the times she speaks Jesus rebukes her. Paul thinks very highly of a woman in one of the churches he visited and then famously tells women to be quiet ( probably a scribal insertion). It was only after Adam rejected the animals that God decided to make Eve out of Adams spare parts. In America the various religions stood opposed to a woman's right to vote.
“Spare parts”? Uhh no he didn’t. The Hebrew says God took from Adam’s “side”
Adam did not 'reject' the animals. Rejected them in what way? He gave them all names: (Gen 2: 19 (KJV) (which means he named the 'serpent' also). God knew he needed a partner for himself and made Eve from one of Adams own bones, 'bone of my bones, flesh of my flesh', (Gen 2 :23 (KJV) not 'spare parts'.....from his very substance, out of his body. One flesh.
@@helengraham5934 rejected them as partners.
@@helengraham5934 you realize you arguing and saying fictional characters said something when they are fictional, they didnt exist so really could not have said anything.... it's all just made up
@@Ghoulza right
M= dove of Maverick and Brigham of Oxford University.
I am surprised you do not mention that the bible was translated into several languages plus the Catholic church withheld seventeen books from the bible when the saint James bible arrived..