The Gospel of Mary - A Lost Gnostic Text?
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- We celebrate Easter by looking at one of the most interesting non-canonical texts from the early development of Christianity.
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Asgeirsson, Jon (2005). "Thomasine Traditions in Antiquity The Social and Cultural World of the Gospel of Thomas". Brill.
Brakke, David (2012). "Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity". Harvard University Press.
Brock, Ann Graham (2003). Mary Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority". Harvard Divinity School.
de Boer, Esther A. (2005). "The Gospel of Mary: Listening to the Beloved Disciple". Continuum.
King, Karen L. (2003). "What is Gnosticism?". Harvard University Press.
King, Karen L. (2003). "The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the first woman apostle". Polebridge Press.
Tuckett, Christopher (2019). "The Gospel of Mary". Oxford University Press.
Van den Broek, Roelof (2013). "Gnostic Religion in Antiquity". Cambridge University Press.
Meyer, Marvin (ed.) (2009). "The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume ". HarperOne.
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I am a Muslim and your content helps me understand other religions and focus on similarities rather than differences. You have changed my world view in the best way possible!
Thank You!🙌🏼
Keep doing what you do!!
Thank you very much!
What a lovely liberal response Thank you
The original word meant TO MISS THE MARK’ it had nothing to do with sin/ guilt/ wrongdoing/ shame.
The Judeo /Christian influence added that regrettably.
Love this 🙌🏼
I am orthodox Christian and his videos were also very enlightening to be about Islamic scholarship. I will eventually have to get around to reading the Quran myself, but it’s nice to know additional information.😅
You are listening to a wrong sect of blv! Catholics are not Christian!
They are idolator and actually Islam and most of Shia rituals is a copy of their rituals!
Any religion with rituals are religion and religion is not from God!
God has only one way to Him and that is Jesus but the true one not thé made up one by religions!
Blessings!
What a pity it's such a fragmentary text - great work, friend! Blessed Ramadan, happy and kosher Pesach and happy Easter to all celebrating!
It's not from God, that's why, or it would be complete like the 5,000 manuscripts of the bible in all kinds of languages, God word is pure, true, and remains forever.
@@EternityBlessings you haven't watched the rest of this channels content have you lol.
@@EternityBlessings you know, there were 350 milion copies of Spiderman comics sold around the world. That's how I know it's a true Gospel from our Lords and Saviours: Stan Lee, Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby!
@@EternityBlessings Your causal, causation argument is weak.
And Happy Songkran!
The more we find out about Mary-Magdalena, the more fascinating she becomes.
Imagine having lived right by Jesus's side for most of his life, and the cannonical Bible essentially erases your existence. I'd be pissed. I hope we find out as much as we can about her and restore her rightful place in Church history.
I agree her story is very intriguing and feel she serves as a feminine example women should strive for.
In 1969, the Pope renounced her prostitute misnomer but unfortunately it's not common knowledge and many churches still weave her mistaken identity in their sermons, which IMHO makes them sadly negligent. I feel she has transcended the human emotion of outrage, although we can certainly feel that on her behalf and should spread awareness when possible. I am pleased that Pope Francis made a public declaration about her importance as a apostle of Christ and elevated her memorial day to a feast day. I'm hopeful that one day all will know her true nature.
HISTORICALLY ,Jesus had no problem with women - - his ' right hand ' was a woman , the apostle of apostles , Mary Magdalene - - Peter lacked the smarts to understand the messages in the parables - - several times Mary was asked to explain .Historically women were second class citizens in the culture of Jasus' time .The church does not like to talk about HISTORIC TRUTH - - only talk about faith & beliefs which , in fact were created by the zealous bishops to push THEIR agenda .WHen Constantine accepted Christianity , called the bishop to have a synode at which time the Nicene creed was created by a small percentage of all the bishops at that time who had a strong desire to push their agenda- -among them patriarchy & misogyny which around 425 was reinforced by Augustine of Hippo , the so called father of the church and the demonizer of women- -the cause of women's discrimination to priesthood . The old boys do not like to talk about the historic TRUTHS & too WIMPY to allow women priests .
Yeah no,woman shouldn’t talk in church.some point are good in her texts but some are wrong
@@tiborbeck8016 exactly
@@blacksea_charm why shouldn't women talk?
I am a devout Christian and love watching all your content. It is very enjoyable to hear you break down each aspect of Abrahamic faiths, history, culture and lore as. I find every topic to be interesting and appreciate that you credit sources where applicable. I really enjoy other religions covered on this channel as well. Thanks for your hard work!
Thank you!
Glad I'm not the only Christian that enjoys such content!
@@redmoonfilms Another Christian here enjoying this channel very much! 🙂
I just wanted to second this! There is a community of practicing Christians who find your content very informative and helpful!
@@kaidenmunsey7380 Where can such a community connect?!
Early Christianity is the most interesting topic to me on this channel, you're doing a great job, thank you
Thank you for this! Just a few days ago I laid flowers at the altar of Maria Magdalena in the basilica of Assisi. I feel a strange familiarity to her story and I imagine this gospel might be closer to the "original" teachings than the orthodox church would like us to believe. Thank you for shedding some light on this darkened corner of history!
JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
lmao
Sadly she was a fictional character, much like all of those who were said to follow the also mythical character of Jesus.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs😂
@@TheGuiltsOfUs Don't want to be rude but archeological history strongly says otherwise. Jesus is a real historical figure wither you believe him to be divine or not, the matter is He existed and that much is undeniable. To deny His existence is to be incredibly ignorant.
Wow, this is why the canon is so important, just a single exclusion of a book like this changes everything. And it also shows and tells a story how the mysteries of His teachings could have been erased completely from the very beginning of the moment following his death. Apart from Mary who is instantly rejected.
If Jesus was teaching Mary things that he didn't share with the others then I'm certain that was for a reason because these things were not to be shared as part of the gospels for teaching. I'm not worried we don't know these teachings because it is contradictory to everything else he was openly sharing.
@@dawn5227depending on the Bible your reading
Like everything else
Catholics were the top dogs for a while and we all know bout some of the things they got up to whose to say they didn’t stomp out some early competition
As a religious studies major, I greatly value your content. Thank you so much!
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I’ve been considering it how is it?
You could give a try to the talmud of Jmmanuel 5th edition
The travels of the soul through the gatekeepers is also reminiscent of The Bardo in the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Always fun to find synchronicity in the various traditions. Great vid as always.
I was into Tibetan Buddhism and it's mysticism like Rdzogchen and even their roots from Bon. All great stuff,informative, eye opening for sure but I was lost and searching.As fate would have it I've found what I was looking for.I was introduced to Christianity as early as 1969 when I was born by my Grandma.As time went on I wandered away from it because I thought that it was archaec and not relevant to this "modern age" but as time went on I began to see how fake this world is. I began to notice another presence around me that would make good things happen and would answer my thoughts, always but never on my time.I almost died 16 times in my life.When I listen to His prompts I always am successful in building my "Knowledge Repetoir".Any other book toward "truth" never stacks up to what the Bible instructs.I know because I'm a former Pagan-Gnostic- New Ager! If you accept The Holy Spirit into your life everything changes.Your myopic paradigm shifts a few noticable degrees and continues relative to your ability to grasp things on this crazy, tumultuous and uncertain road of life.I'm now a solid-as- rock Believer because of what all I've seen and experienced.Not bragging,just sayin'😒
I was thinking the same.
Both are full of shit. That is their only similarity.
@@Georgia-Vicyes when you have spiritual encounters with demonic spirit and you know that they Tremble in the name of Jesus then you that everything about Jesus is real
@@winterheart1984 but of course!😉
I sleep too these videos, they help with my anxiety. So soothing ❤
Hi Filip! Happy to see you are covering this. Hope one day, when time's right, you'll be able to do the Gospel of the Beloved Companion.
I'd love to cover all these texts!
wow! have not yet heard of this one.
I'm a Muslim, I really love your videos, they are enjoyable
Totally agree with you bro may Allah guide all of us to the right path ameen 🙏😁
Islam SUCKs
And informative too
No doubt
Mans based for all religions not just one, I’ve learned so much about Islam through him and I’m an atheist lol
Even though it's non canonical I cannot help but feel drawn to this gospel and its contents. I am once again in awe at the spiritual ideas of early Christianity and the common ground between Christian Mysticism and other spiritual practices. In the end I guess there are no straight answers in this world.
Well of course. People have always loved fairy tales which the book of Mary is
@@Nomad58you say fairy tale. It was true to the writer. You cant dismiss any text. All have clues.
@@kristinakilby6798 sure you can dismiss false teachings and writings. You absolutely can
@@Nomad58 don't be daft
@@jope76 don’t treat comic books like inspired scriptures. Don’t be dumb
Thank you, Filip, for covering the important text of Mary.
May all have many blessings today with one's own celebrations during these days of fasting and prayers of all faiths.
With the deepest appreciation and respect for your wisdom and for all your knowledge, you effortlessly share. .🙏❤
It's truly amazing to read such pleasant comments in all your videos. Your content is truly uniting. God bless from this curious mystical Christian.
Love this channel so much. Thank you for this amazing content!
Superb video. Thank you! The teachings of Jesus & Marie have a deep Buddhist understanding. Much misunderstood - as light and love often are, sadly so.
Thank you for your beautiful work❤️
Jesus is the Truth, the Way and the Life. Buddhism has almost nothing in common with Christianity. The Buddha never spoke at all about God. Nirvana is interpreted as "what's left when you blow out a candle."
Gnostic Christianity concept and those gospels removed from the bible are all very similar to Buddhist and Hindu Isopanisads.Not a surprise they were removed and concealed by church.Everyone here is not sure whether Jesus was GOD,or he was son of God.Next,here everyone is not sure even the name of God and what was God’s personality.What is this uncertainty religion all about?At least non Abrahamic religion have clearer understanding on Supreme Godhead
@@worldrocker5914 you are right with your argument but you should not blame the religion but blame the people who are in charge, just like how most of the teachings of the disciples of Jesus were not added to the Bible the people who decide to do that are the problem, that’s why God says he will start from his own household and those who walk in his name
Always apreciate the deep dive!
A really excellent summary just the right length ❤
Tack för ännu en intressant video, Filip. Glad Påsk!
I could write a book of gratitude here but I will keep it brief.. I am amazed but not surprised that these 'lost' teachings are not at the top of the list of research etc.. Much thanks to Elaine Pagels for opening the doors to the spirit behind the mythology called Christianity and to you as well for sharing this priceless information.. What this Gospel as well as Thomas parallel are the teachings of Sri Nisargadatta and others in South India that sprouted around the same time or perhaps earlier.. Thank you thank you thank you.. Not many have grasped the importance of what these pearls of wisdom offer to so many who hunger for such guidance.. Peace
JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
The world is tired of new age historical revisionism.
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The "lost" texts were all written far after the canonical gospels. They are all forgeries. Mary was long dead in the 2nd century.
Thank you for this fascinating research! Every video on your channel is interesting.
Many thanks and many blessings to you for sharing this fascinating, informative, and visually beautiful podcast with us on CZcams.
Mr. Holm, you are the best: fair, open 📖 minded and unbiased.
A very wise and loving rendition to our beloved Saint Mary Magdalene’s gospel… you are continuing her and our Lord’s work undoubtedly 🌹
Love your channel! This is my favorite channel on you tube. Thank you!
Your work is much appreciated... thank you for doing what you do...
This channel continues to be the most soothing channel ever.
Yours is the best and most clear description / interpretation I have encountered ever. So cool! Subscribing as I click "like, like"!
One of my FAVORITE courses ever was "The Gnostic Gospels," with one of my favorite professors, David Brakke. It was a small class, with perhaps a dozen of us, most of whom knew each other from other classes in the Religious Studies department. We had some of the COOLEST discussions and debates about the material. 25 years later, and I can still remember the course number (R425/565, combined graduate/undergrad).
Bentley Layton had recently published his seminal work, covering everything from Valentinus, Ireneus, Gospel of Thomas, etc. I don't remember whether Mary was in the book, but we DID cover it.
As an atheist who still finds religion to be both a source and chronicle of the evolution of the mind of mankind, discovering the Thomas and Mary gospels was a transformative moment, opening my mind to studying Christianity, both from an historical perspective, as well as the theological contemplation of its proferred wisdom. I truly wonder how the Church, and civilization itself, would be different if Thomas and Mary had been included among the canonical texts. It almost makes me sad.
Anyway, thank you so much for this great video
Thank you so much for this.
I feel the need to share the moment my mother passed away in Ireland in 2012.
Briefly I had been with her for the last 3 days holding her hand, when she stopped breathing I reached down to give her a hug and was met with this beautiful force rising from her body, it went through me and out my back heading upwards. I looked down and immediately realized that this was the vessel that carried my Mother's soul, her suffering was over.
Your message here resonated with me for that reason.
My lecturer later told me that was my Mother's greatest gift to me, the confirmation that I always knew, what happens at death.
Mary is the only disciple that has ever captivated my attention, when I pray it is always to her.
This interpretation from you has helped me immensely on my journey.
Thank you and may God bless you 🙏.
You don’t pray to any of the disciples, you pray to God through the Saviour!
I'm always so happy when I new video of yours drops. The last few have been stunningly made , polished and professional. The subject matters are just fantastic, I never knew much about Suffism before. Out of the prominent religious scholars on CZcams, and as amazing as channels like " Religion for Breakfast " &
" ESOTERICA" are in their own specialist ways, " Let's Talk Religion " is really smashing it out the park. Wonderful to see so much interest in these subjects, most people probably never had others to discuss these topics with before and its brilliant to see. 👍🏻 Have a nice Ramadan my friend
You are very kind, thank you! And may you have a beautiful Ramadan as well.
That "look over here look over there" bit sounds like something in the Gospel of Philip: "Love does not say 'this is mine!' Or 'that's mine!' But 'what is mine is yours"
As usual, clear and well put together. thank you. The non canonical writings are all very interesting.
Indeed!
Thank you, amazing content as usual 🌞
keep working on and do what u do best. keep covering all things that are hidden. thngs u share is gold. salam ramadhan and eid mubarak
Another blessed impartial explanation of spirituality from respectable Mr. Flip H. In the holy month of Ramazan on a blessed day GOOD FRIDAY. may Allaha bless you Mr. flip H. With lots of love from a sufi student from India.❤
Always appreciate your kind and engaged comments!
There’s a lot of hidden knowledge in these gospels, thanks for the beautiful video!
The only things that are hidden is because of fear and self imposed ignorance.God hides nothing from his children because He wants us to prosper and succeed.If you think that things are hidden from you, you are a pathetic victim and will never make it out of this!
@@Georgia-Vic Hidden in the sense that it's not so common knowledge, not in the literal sense.
@@jassimarsingh6505 I see what you are alluding to but for something to be "hidden" it cannotes secrecy and intentionally hiding something from someone's view in order to deceive them or to outright trick them. A better word, definition or description would be something like: not very well known, obscure, uncommon knowledge, unordinary, vague or anything else but "hidden!" These aren't semantics but a more clear way of relaying something to someone else without being ambiguous. Other people don't always know our biased and peculiar ways of talking. Jesus hides nothing from us. If by some chance we fail to see the message, it's only because we are unable to understand it. If we don't get the gist of a teaching it's only because we either have not had enough life experience under our belts OR we just are outright rebellious and childishly refuse to receive it, in which it's no ones fault but ours, not the person speaking,writing or conveying the message to us! If we say "well I didn't know about it, therefore I'm exempt from the consequences!" we then are irresponsible and a victim and that is unacceptable to God. We hold ourselves back from progress! God gives us free will and discernment, if we don't use them then that's our problem. God forces nothing on us and He hides nothing from us because we are His children. When the KJV Bible speaks of secrecy and things being hidden, that's the certain interpretation of the translator. Old English is a dead language. We don't call rabbits "Coneys".We don't call seals "Badgers". We don't say:" Thee" or "thou" and we don't speak like the people did in Great Britain 300 some odd years ago. King James hired William Shakespeare to copy the Bible. William then subcontracted 70 other men to do the research to make his job easier. Those men worked with candles and oil lamps in low light and the sources and resources were questionable at best.They were in a hurry to get their pay and the longer they took to translate the longer they went without money.We update our dictionary every 5 years!😏😳also when things are penned on paper, the translators' (and the Prophets) intentions were not like what we today think they are. We think that things are only one way; the way that we think that they should be without exception and that's closed minded, selfish and myopic because we take things out of context just to suit our own egos or to win an argument! There are different ways of looking at something. Sometimes if you'll turn it around you will see a different aspect of it and lastly things in Ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek cannot be translated into our modern English which is an amalgamation of various other borrowed languages! 🫤 And some words cannot be translated because they don't have those words and vice versa. Some cultures don't have words for "good bye" or "future" or "hidden"...so what does a translator do? They make up words, suppose,conject or find a suitable word to replace or fill in. Does that mean that it's wrong? By no means, it's just the only way that we can make something broken whole!
dude you sound so angry. He just meant the church hides this shit.@@Georgia-Vic
@@entidy458 not angry just reactive. Look at it this way though: Why should a thing be hidden and from whom?
Thank you.This is really great stuff! God bless
I like Mary! She is the truly enlightened one!
Marry is a holy hand maid, she was not enlightened, only Jesus was. You're on your way to hell replacing God with a mortal woman.
This text was written far after Mary had died. It's a forgery from the Gnostics.
You are a Christian?
Plus she had a big booty
Happy Easter and May you be blessed
The Gospel of Philip also stated that Mary was the favorite disciple of Jesus and he used to display great affection towards her.
Yup and she was the first one to see he was risen
it does, and also that she could 'see' what others could not. the same is found in another text, the dialog of the saviour where it says 'she spoke as a woman who understood everything'. this is the text one can find her addressing a saying of her own to Jesus "we take our stand in this [your teaching] and to the world we are transparent". Similar ideas occur in the pistis sophia, and 1 obscure church father 'the lord always used to sit and listen to her wisdom' (from memory). together with the gospels, if you add this up it points to a significant tradition that's only now being recovered. i think her idea of the gospel may be found in the text, The Odes of Solomon
@@peacefultruth9803 Thank you for that additional information.
Great topic. Well covered. Thanks 👊
Most enlightening. Your voice and diction are superb. Thank you very much.
Hey Filip, I really like your content! Thanks for making these topics so accesable. I was wondering if you have read "the sacred mushroom and the cross" and how you would evaluate its proposed theory with the knowledge that you have.
🛐 The body a vessel shall pass - "Spirit" the true "essence" -
Shall continue on it's journey to enlightenment 🛐
Thank you for resources in description ☺☺
I enjoyed this very much. I’ve always been curious about all of this. I’ve read the book on The Gospel of Mary
I have faith that a full text will be found one day
Thanks for the great insight on this gospel.
The attack on Mary by Peter and most of the other opostles , hints at the patriarchal control we see in the writing of not only most Christian text , but the power structure of the church as well.
The Abrahamic religions to this day keep a tight leash on woman , not just in the secular world , but as religious teachers as well. We see that the Magdalena writings didn't even make the final cut of the Cannon. And I agree with you that it had to be written by a helenistic Christian because a Jewish wouldn't have written it . ❤
Another great one man! Ive never even heard of this gospel, super interesting stuff
First time listener. Great content! Thank you so much for delivering truth..I love that you and Esoterica support each other! That's what we were created for! ❤️ I have been a Christian my entire life. Only in recent years have I been open to the idea that the bible didn't give us all the info. Unprograming can be difficult. Especially since I am a woman, who has been called to heal. What I know for certain is, is Christ is love. May we all spread/show love. Love and Light ❤️💋
You took the best part of Christianity. I'm Xavienne
Hi Janel, The Gospel of Mary was written far after the historical events. Mary, mother of Jesus, was long dead in the second century, thus everyone knows this text is a forgery and has no relevance to the historical Jesus. Stick with truth!
Absolutely beautiful teachings... wow.
Brilliant video - as usual. I love the way you present the information in a non biased manner and allow your audience to come their own conclusions. It's such a rare and precious thing to find these days and allows for true learning and understanding.
I cannot wait for you to do a video on Swedenborg. From my limited understanding he seems like a cross between Christian/Perennial mysticism with a heavy pinch of Spiritualism/Shamanism thrown in for good measure.
Non biased? Did he mention Mary was long dead in the 2nd century when this forgery was written?
Thanks so much a lot to reflect!!!
Gospel of Mary is one of my favs- great job 👍
Seems like Paul, Thomas and Mary are the only ones who actually had mystical experiences and understood the message.
❤
And John the beloved
Yes because they are direct disciple of Jesus and are in pure in heart and doesn't controlled by church orthodoxy father.
Only paul is a historical figure out of those three.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs yes and only about half of the letters are believed to be actually written by him.
Ótimo trabalho!! Obrigado.
This shows what Jesus was really trying to convey and what, in my view, was mis-construed and what has caused so much strife (as it has become externalised as though he is "out there" somewhere and we need to find him/salvation, hence all the conflict and control involved in such a pursuit). When you truly go silent within in total trust, you are in connection with him/God and your true nature. This can still be a process of discovery, but that is the essence of it. You cannot silence the truth and the truth is silence. God bless
Then he was a failure and his very name should be publicly derided whenever it appears in conversation.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs With the greatest of respect, he never failed. It was the disciples who misunderstood his teachings to a certain extent - APART from Mary Magdalene - which in turn were then formed into a 'religion' that somewhat missed the point (although there is still much wisdom to be gained there IMO). He is very much real as a spiritual entity. One can deride him as much as one wants, but it cannot destroy the truth of his existence, which is actually YOUR true nature (pure consciousness). He taught that you and he are ONE. Only each of us can find this out for ourselves. Peace
Thank you... Great video... Everyone can eventually achieve equanimity through spiritual practice leading to self realization.
There was a section in there which reminded me of Luke 17 Vs 21 ' The kingdom of heaven is within you ' . ✌️✝️🕉️
Thanks agains for sharing so much knowledge I do love you so much!
Thank you for making this message possible
As always the more you learn the less you know. True salvation is knowing understanding and forgiving yourself.
A video essay on the day of resurrection (yawm al-qiyamah) would be class
Many thanks for this video.
God bless you.
I love your work man.
I have no words for how grateful I am for this
None?
As a religious person I love your unbiased videos.
Thank you so much. Great information. Eva
I enjoyed this so much… as a seeker this really fascinated me ❤
As an agnostic who went to catholic schools in until college, I find it interesting that they were more willing to teach us about other non-christian religions than the history of early Christianity. While I don't feel particularly drawn to belief of any sort (even calling myself agnostic is being charitable. I simply believe that if there is some omnipotent/omnipresent being, then it must be impossible to scientifically prove it disprove) I find it absolutely fascinating to see all the ways in which Christian teachings were interpreted and communicated in the early years before the development of the church as a monolithic entity.
Catholic HS graduate here. Church History and World religions were both required to graduate. It may depend on the diocese or the school itself.
Hi, I share the same background as you and appreciate your honest comment here. I'd like to share this: About 10 years after finishing college, I started reading a lot of non-religious philosophy on my own for like 6-7 years (Greek, German, British, etc). It was kind of incredible but these texts actually drew me back towards Christian philosophy and teaching, like Thomas Aquinas. In the past year I started going to church again and feel pretty good about it. I bring my young children as well. I guess one major takeaway after the life experiences I've had is that the church is a more wholesome and stable institution for my children than the tumultuous secular ones we have available. It took me years to arrive here and lots of consideration --and I don't "know" I'm right. Part leap of faith I suppose. Keep searching and reading!
12:41.. Had to go back to that line because i didnt appreciate it enough the first time it caught me off guard😂👏🏼🎤
Thanks so much for posting.
Good work !! Thank you !!!
Such an interesting text. I’m fascinated by gnostic teachings.
I never considered how interesting early Christianity was before what is now the Orthodox and Catholic churches decided what was true.
POPE SUPRESSED THAT JESUS AND MARY WERE TRANS👨👨👦❤❤❤👍👍👍WAKE UP
Thank you for sharing this with us
Unbelievable... thank you brother for this, this really helps a lotto stay calm and even my faith become more stronger...💚🕊🙏
"After this mic-drop Jesus tells his disciple's..." best sentence I've heard in a while.
Interesting Philip. I appreciate your dedication to truth telling. How does one maintain one’s religious commitments in light of the obviously culturally and temporarily defined mandates? I’ve always wanted to ask Dr. Sledge the same question
Hi, Filip! I was wondering if maybe you could do an episode on the development of liberal Christian theology from figures such as Friedrich Schleiermacher. The topic of Christian modernism has always been something so fascinating to me in my study of religion, but there are barely any videos on CZcams about it and I know you would knock it out of the park if you covered it. I would appreciate it, but I understand if you have other plans. Thanks!
Thank you so much. This make things very clear.
Another great video Filip! Thank you so much. On another note, I was thinking about Ibn Sina's Floating Man experiment and began to wonder if it could have been a refutation of the Buddhist belief of sunyata. I would really like to hear your take on how Buddhism and Islam may have interacted in the Middle Ages.
Buddhism and Islam is something which almost never explored by contemporary Muslim scholars, parts of it can be blamed from Muslim Perennialists' overt focus to Rene Guenon's frameworks and similar late orientalist (or more of contra-orientalist) eras of Scholars, which Buddhism as the most latent Sramana Faith is discarded and even never historically dissected of both "Early", "Mahayana", "Vajrayana" and new age eras of Buddhism's history asides from non-Muslim Western Scholars whose brave enough to jump into said Depth of Emptiness in Buddhism
All of these despite Al Biruni's records of Buddhism can be very prevalent, with some Muslims at that time even believes about The Buddha and similar Mahayana Buddhist figures in the newly conquered Muslim era of Khorasan (basically Transoxiana to Western China) to be Prophets that taught Religious systems to "banish Satan', which directly references Buddha triumphs over Mara(s) figure in the Buddhist history of Gautama, this on top of the other possible theories of Prophet Dhul Kifl in The Qur'an might also refer to Arabised suffix term reference of Gautama Buddha birthplace origin in Kapilavastu alongside the Fig Tree in Surah At-Tin being a possible reference of Gautama achieving Nirvana under The Bodhi Tree
Another more personal findings given to how Prophet Ezekiel in The Tanakh also describes visions of Wheels at the Kavod (Glory) of God which happens to be incidental with Buddhism's concept of Turning Wheel of Dharma which represents Noble Eightfold Path, the number 8 also plays pivotal role in Orthodox Christianity, Sethian Gnostic and reference of Qur'an Rub El Hizb and Eight Doors to Paradise in Islam
Fascinating how many of these non-orthodox ideas are very close to Indian mystical and philosophical traditions, or at least don't have major contradictions with the latter, unlike Christian orthodoxy.
That is true, you're right. However Christianity is based on the 4 canonical gospels written by eyewitnesses or people who knew the eyewitnesses. The Gnostic texts are written far after Mary, Thomas, and the others had died.
Great presentation! Thx
Thank you for this video
I wonder if this is the earliest example of the Christian theory that the individual “soul” goes to heaven when a human being dies - as opposed to St Paul’s idea that the dead will all rise, transformed like Jesus, only when He returns in glory.
In my Catholic schooling, I was taught that BOTH were in store for us: When we die, our souls go to God for immediate judgment and an eternity in heaven or hell - or an unknown period of suffering and soul-cleansing in purgatory. Then when Christ returns, all the dead rise and there’s a “final judgment.”
That used to confuse me: Why TWO judgements? Wouldn’t the souls in purgatory all be released into heaven? And weren’t the souls in heaven and hell already judged for all eternity?
You’ve helped me understand that the competing theories go back to the beginnings of the church, which later went on, I surmise, to combine the two.
Even today, more recent Christian groups like Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses apparently propose more complex theories involving multiple heavens and the total extermination of the souls of the wicked.
“Quot homines, tot sententiae” the Romans said - There are as many opinions as there are human beings!
That early theory arose due to a syncretism of the hellenistic and hebraic cultures. I doubt rabbi yeshua, if he existed, would understand it.
Mormons are not Christians and neither are Jahova witnesses. Mormons for example believe in many God's. They believe that God use to be a man who died and became our God. They believe Jesus and Satan are brothers and the litteral children of God and one of his many wives in heaven. They believe God is sexual. They believe when you die if you follow all the mormon ways you become a god of your own planet too. Those cultists believe nothing that actual Christians do. Their God Jesus and Holy spirt are not the same as our GOD (God Jesus and the holy spirt as 1.) None of their creation story is the same as ours. The fight between heaven and the followers of Satan is different. They do not believe Satan is a fallen angel. Mormon and Christian theology are two separate things two completely different stories.
I would have liked to hear more of Mary 5, and more on Mary 4, for that speaks of matter and how it mirrors physics. Because in Mary 5, it sure seems to explain entanglement.
Thanks.
Enjoyed it. Thanks filip
Thanks Filip, really insightful work! You are a ""broad" theologian, but this video could easily be from a specialist in Gnosticism.
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Totally agree 👍🏼
8:35 Such a painful image. Lost information always hurts.
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😂 not the mic drop! I love your content.
Hey Philip ! I recently saw your video on Kashmir Shaivism & I must commend your efforts in explaining subtle & complex theories of Hinduism. I suggest you these topics which might interest you & are rather less discussed upon when it comes to speaking about Hinduism - Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Yoga, Samkhya & Purva-Mimamsa. Nyaya scholar Udayanacharya & Purva-Mimamsa scholar Kumarila Bhatta had played crucial roles in refuting Madhayamaka doctrine through debates & compositions. Samkhya is basically a Hindu version of sorts of the Taoist theory of Ying-Yang & is important to understand Shaktism in general. Like Tantra, Yoga has been heavily misinterpreted by the Western society but the Yoga espoused in Patanjali's Yoga-sutras are much more profound than mere physical exercises. Also it would be interesting to watch your video on the other 5 of the 6 heretical teachers mentioned in the Pali canon.
You are just way too knowledgeable seeing your msg. You are a rarity infact 😂
Andrew basically called her a “heretic” in a Catholic sense of the term saying: “this differs in thought”
Thank you for sharing this illuminating knowledge that is so important to enhancing our understanding of Jesus, and Mary. Mary Magdalene seems to be His Wife.
can't wait for your video about Ivan Agueli