Rough Corundum (ruby/saphire)
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Found this video because I got my hands on tons of raw sapphire, ruby, garnet and emerald. And needed help identifying them properly before sending them to be cut.
Thank you so much! I just bought some supposed uncut rough sapphires, now all I need is a tumbler. Thank you for this informative video!
No you are not crazy! You are fantastic!
There is so much of this stuff everywhere we kick an dont even know!
So i am super greatful
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO, SHOWING THE ROUGH , LIKE YOUR HONEST APPROACH!
thanks for sharing such amazing video , by the way , I luckily live in an area where such rough stuff is available abundantly , i purchased 3 rough corundum last week from Peshawar, Pakistan's Gemstone market and they are under cutting n shaping process .. as well as some other rough stones i have .. I usually collect these as i am living in a country where world's highest mountains meet and we have abundant of such natural wonders ...
Hi can i chat with u a quick question plz
Well sorry I didn't see your comment until now. I hope you still remember what it was.
Good job
Great video.
Remember
He is watching too.
God Bless You
You habe some great finds. And you are absolutely right about how hard it is to cab. Although the star sapphires and rubies are worth the time and diamond grit, to polish instead of trying to facet them. If you get a good Star, its value is higher than most faceted stones. I have one 83Ct. Medium blue, translucent 5point Star, that will help me retire comfortably. It seemed to take forever to polish, but its worth every hour!
I know you're right but it's just the overall diamond grits that we have at our lapidary club we don't have anything over 800 idk y. But its impossible to cab corundum there, but on our flat laps we have up to 4000? I'll see if I can press for a extra fine belts cause I know it's worth it, but it's based on whether it's in the budget or not as well as a vote that's why I don't really cab I would if I could.. I want a nice star one day.
Go to Montana and get some Yogo sapphires. Best in the world. They don’t even require heat treating once cut.
Agreed! Much ❤ from MT!
Wow thank you I'll check them out!
Looks like my recent finds! I found about 2000 carats worth of rubies and sapphires in the mountains of NC. That's not counting the garnets.
bravo congrats your awesome and a natural thanks for the vid very helpfull
I like this video so much that I'm now your subscriber. Good job on describing everything. I'm feeling less frustrated about this same issue.
Good to see I could be of help. Thank you.
You rule!
love digging for gems i dont care on the size just seeing that colure im just happy
I 100% agree!!!! Cant see raw ore anywhere online! Jeez yes i wanna make some videos like this. Please make more vids!
Thank you I had to do it! It was my first attempt at this and I still have things to say about them i forgot to mention and I want to do a black light test as well. I appreciate your comment very much and I say do it. Take the knowledge and run with it. Hit me up if you do.
Dude Amazon and all over the web are you kidding rough "ore" lol and it you polish them and cut them and polish them again and wire wrap them or set them you could make good money but acting like it's hard to get is stupid it is easy for the average person with 40$ extra bucks to spend on like to have all that and more sorry but that's the truth bud dont tell people fake fakes
FINALLY. Wow this is amazing! Smart man right here 👍
I actually have some of these rocks wow now I know what it is thank you for your information
Thank you thank you bro I appreciate you straight up your Boston is Albright about it
I was gifted a rather large ruby recently from a good friend. I think he found it in Utah. He said its worth a lot. It's raw uncut & I'm guessing 80+ carat. It's dark red, black & some purple. After doing more research, I think it may even be red diamond? An suggestions or ideas? Any tips to getting an appraisal without getting ripped off? And suggestions of an appraisal in the MT area?
It turned out to be a large 298c garnet darn it! ☺
BigSky Family What does a raw uncut ruby look like? I found this boring looking pitted rock, semi-dark in color that looks like it has a film of green chipping off of it. In one particular video when they were describing the flowers and gems of the months of the year… They showed a rock that looked exactly like mine and claimed it was a ruby. Is there any way you could describe it?
@@ciara8998 Maybe ruby in zolsite?
@@bigsky445 that's an awesome story I'm sorry I couldn't reply sooner I didn't see your notification. But to find a nice real red big garnet is pretty rare especially if it's capable of producing gems. Not all garnet material is suited for cutting or jewelry due to impurities and fractures so finding real nice pieces is very cool indeed.
So i bought a raw sapphire and a raw ruby but when i got home i forgot which one was which so i did a uv light test and the that was ruby had glowing pinkish spots the sapphire didn't glow and it looks similar to a rubby but it isn't
Same way I got mine that is funny I got a sapphire that will blow your mind
Gemstones are elusive and travel its amazing where they hide sometimes. Some of the most uninteresting rocks ive had and just "split it to see" have had the best surprises from a cheap parcel nobody looked at and stored for years. Its hidden otherwise you wouldn't have it! Maybe a quarter of the jems sold in the world are lost or thrown away thinking they're fake. It broke fell off or lost at beach or its costume jewellery grandma's dated fashion just throw it!😮 Study stones keep your eyes peeled! It'll put you in a position for luck. And yes things are hard if your not in the loop! Create your own and have fun.
My clarity is flawless and it's never been cut it is a rough sapphire but I can't find no one else that got this good of sapphire
Thank you so much. Your video is just what I needed. It is nice to see it as rough! Great video
Thank you very much!
yes brother you are right..this is the most important shit...our brain to save the real look of it
I totally agree bro. Thank you for your video. So dang frustrating looking for identification videos.
lol Yea I had to try and do the people some justice and it's hard enough doing research and getting a bunch of directions why not keep it simple. I appreciate the support honestly Thank you!
Joseph Grindle bra.. !! I know right
Thank u. We make our own rock group lol
I’m not good with electronics or computers but I will try to send pictures of what I have rock wise in the morning ok. It’s late and wife’s in bed.
I have an old mans collection who gave it to my son and he didn’t want it and it’s got some MAJOR finds and I want to sell it all ! If you want to see it get a hold of me.
I'd like to see what you have just for the hell of it maybe I can tell you what it is, I'm not really an online buyer but it never hurts to take a look. I'm putting my links in the Description to my other social media platforms.
I will try in the morning but I have a large collection. Uncut and cut but I have stage five liver failure so my time is short so I’m passing them on cheep!
@@scottwippel5871 well I still hope your hanging in there man stones or not I wish you the best for what it's worth god bless.
we test and tell you the value
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LOL thank you!
Oooh nice! I have some of these that I'm interested in cutting. I wish I knew more about it.
Nice.👍
0:12 to 0:56👏
Good advice in this vid too.
The reason these stones were a $ a lb is because that's all they are worth. None of them are any good for faceting or cabbing they are just specimen pieces cool to have but don't really have any monetary value
if you treat them and polish them they become amazing
show me one that looks amazing. heat treating and glass filling isnt going to improve these. no treatment will improve them to get gem quality stones
not all want a gem quality..not all can pay for it..but in that price on the video with that name of stones you can make as much money as a gem..what i mean...above you have some stones that have heavy names..like ruby if you polish it and put it in a silver ring you can sell it 100$ easy..it cost you 5..thats marketing mate...no one can tell you its not a ruby..no one will tell you its ugly or cheap...you have all the tools to make good money
For one real rough corundum is still valued. Cleaned up can still reward your efforts. This video was to show what it looks like rough not all cleaned up and even if it's not the most transparent it can still be utilized and btw people love specimens.
Super video👍👍👍
How do you know without a flashlite, for example walking by a river bed, how do you know what to pick up?...
Ok first and foremost you look at the topography and history of the land if your surrounded by mineral rich beds then it's all about what's there. holding them up to the sun and trying to see yellows, blues, orange, greens, pinks, or red. usually small rounded super hard colorful rocks are something good so you never really know what you've got until you do a scratch test and eliminate all other possibilities. you can find all kinds of cool stuff in the river beds but unless they're kind of known for having sapphire in them it's usually a gamble
Bro you are my hero fr cool video and ty
Finally another person telling the truth
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Wow thank you so much for the info!
Does it feel like rubbery on the surface?
It feels very cold and smooth on most of the pieces. Not so much rubbery but dense and very hard.
I have felt the same texture on freshly dug and cleaning them... Reminds me of some powerdy goldish texture or lizard skin lol ...im courious about why and how as well
I got a fat 174 ct rough sapphire w matrix still on it. What’s the best way to get the matrix off and get to see what’s in the middle. I’m betting it’s nice inside.
Depends on whether it's better using a diamond saw and grinder/ lapidary saws and lapidary grinders then to rather chisel it off if you're not really experienced, because impacting a piece with force isn't the best way of removing excess material and preserving a nice gem. If it's already a nice display piece already it could be worth a lot as is.
@@FirstCallToTheUniverse an acid that dissolves the host rock but leaves the gem unaltered would be my guess. Caution though acid can be really sketchy to work with☠️☠️☠️
Red with micro granulate inside is zoisite mix with ruby.
Yea I wanted to get all the different shades, shapes, sizes I could to show Corundum for reals
Hello 👋, Do you know of ANYTHING that my son and I could look 👀 for in northern Indiana gemstones 💎?
Hi well first off do a quick check of the area for rock clubs, if there are non then the only way to do it is to follow the streams, rivers, clay soil, hard rock, you'd be looking for pockets with potential crystal development sometimes it's right in the open if you look close enough. But crystal hunting is a lot of hours spent finding nothing until you do. But finding other cool rocks could be potential for value as well if it looks uncommon and it's different than what you're used to seeing in the area it's worth following up on. I'm part of a rock and stone ID page on face book post your findings there and we can tell you what it is most likely and what kind of stone you have around you. you can also add me at Facebook/Andy Roads the full name and I'm at the top profile pic the rock cutter.
Thank you very much .
This is black saphire and ruby and ruby with green zoisite.All corundum structure.
They are dark navy colored for the most part one looks more black I agree.
Who are interested to buy
Your awesome!! Thanks for doing this
I used to mine for gem stones when I was 14 years of age. I only did a few days of mining and I found two blue sapphires
That's awesome do you still have them?
Yes preach on my friend this is raw yupp I got it
I’d love some!!!!
I got the best sapphire I ever seen the same way
That sounds amazing! I want to see it!
Do you polish it with cerium oxide? Or Tin oxide works better?
Thanks for sharing I have some stones in finally found out they were corundum crystals they're really cool and they're blue
Yay! Thank you so much! I jave Jade 😁
before i watched it all,, cause i dont have time to wait i think,,,
can i polish Corundum ? will it get nice shiny surface like a normal ruby or , other rocks like it ?
Lol my bro said he has a ruby I told him it’s just a stupid rock and I threw it at him lol 😂 who knew it was a actual ruby
the one you threw the stupid rock at.
@@peanutyes1651 huh
@@victor.a1515 "Lol my bro said he has a ruby I told him it's just a stupid rock and i threw it at him lol 😂 who knew it was actually a ruby" now what i am saying is, he knew it was a ruby, the way you threw the "stupid rock" and do not say i am offended, because i talk a lot on youtube.
@@peanutyes1651 at the moment I didn’t know it was a ruby his friend who I didn’t know would take him to some mountains to collect some rocks and he just so happened to have given him one which he said was a ruby but I dismissed it as a rock but I found out his friend knew more about rocks then me
Wat a load of "rubbish"! 😱
It's really hard next in line to dymond I believe it's very cool stone though. 😁
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Africains rubies
Can i ask, probably a stupid question? The flash light you all use.... it's it special or just a normal one?
Normal LED
This video is relevant.
Ty for the info.
High-quality sapphire can reach the hardness of diamonds?
This is my raw ruby drive.google.com/file/d/1quEnwGytNfV1PUMK5LaLbfSe_LdbatHS/view?usp=drivesdk
@@seeeeeee8 No unfortunately Diamond is much harder than corundum the scale from a 9 to a 10 on the MOHs scale is pretty great they are two completely different materials
No it can’t Diamond is 10 and sapphire is like 9 on mohs scale. Close but diamond is always hard, more dense.
Good video, thanks
thank you.
Those are Ruby Zionist
Paleo Mountain Vermont, sapphire.
Do you know the best way to clean rough ones?
Thank you. been asking same quesrion
I get mine from a sapphire mine out of nation. They just sell me the low grade ruby and sapphire, for almost nothing. All I really do is pay the shipping.
Any chance you’d share the name of the place?
@@Jeff4559 Maybe, If I can find them right now. I think that this place resells it, It was shut down or something because the webpage is inactive.
Here is someone reselling it:
www.mailordergems.com/Ruby-Corrundum-Rough-By-the-Pound-p541.html
Is their anyone here i can ask a question regarding a blue shiny raw thing i see in a black coal whats that?
yea add me on facebook and I will help you
Asma Fathima diamond
Do you plan to do rough emeralds??? Asking as a person of the emerald state.
What state?
lol maybe I've just never obtained any real good material and the chances I had to pick some up escaped me. But I know a place and It sounds like a good video Idea thank you I'll sure try!
yes we need
Can sapphires be scratched by sandpaper?
well no, sand consists of mostly quartz so it cannot scratch sapphire you should check out diamond powders which you sprinkle it on a flat surface like wood or metal with a little water to make into a paste the higher the grit number the finer the grit and yo really polish up a sapphire it ends in the above 4000 grit.
Kindly help me I found 453.46 carat corundum. What price it may fetch
OK hello I have a Facebook page if you want to share pictures it's hard to say without really seeing it. My page is facebook.com/Andy Roads I should be at the top.
It all depends on quality. It can worth $10 to $100k or more.
@@FirstCallToTheUniverse hi bro
@@FirstCallToTheUniverse i have a ruby and i need to sale it...pls help me
@@Deepz171 please message me via facebook with your stones I may or may not be able to help as it usually needs personal assessment. Value is a tricky thing and not all rubies are very valuable^
we need corrundum in bulk
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I have a amazing piece of wat a gemologist has told me is the largest sample of corundum hes ever seen OR quitte possibly heard of i was going to attach a picture but cant seem to figure it out and very nice info in ur video man. Rubies r by far My Favorite Gemstone & they r by far the most not seen.....
Use a black light, went to Franklin N.C. and went and dug my own in the mountians, not the salted buckets.
Chunky Gal Mountain? Corundum and ruby zoizite everywhere!
LOl I wanted to make a second video and share another piece I had but it was dirty so I didn't know what it was yet. I wanted to hit on some points I missed and do a black light test, but on camera it just wasn't working. It was too bright or too dark, just wouldn't come out right I'm still trying to figure that one out. Your the second person to mention NC corundum, so I do want to see some good examples of peoples finds. what do you mean salted?
Hi sir I have ruby rocks lots of people sugast me what I do
sell them in bulk
Not a kid . Lol
Thank you sooo much..
I have a bunch of ruby..just like yours. Is there anything to do with them? Cut them open?
I don't recommend just cutting them open. It depends really some pieces can be faceted, and some can be cabbed but you need very fine 1200+ grit diamond grinders for the final steps to really get the job done though, and if you don't have the equipment it can come out sub par and not really look that great. Honestly It all depends on the quality of the material. How clean is the piece how translucent it the material, is it heavily fractured included or flawed, does it require someone more skilled to cut, carve, or cab the piece for you which could cost you extra? Really my approach is experience and working with other stones first will not only give you more understanding of how to envision a design but how to execute it more smoothly and cleanly. I suggest looking up local rock clubs in your area and checking out what they do and try getting involved if your interested in cutting and all that first. I'm just telling you from experience I've gained respect for precious material because you only get one chance to cut shape and design stone so be sure to make the right choice because with a little time and experience what could be a good idea at the time may be something you kick yourself over later. Just knowing what I do now from what I did back when I made this video is even greater so I need to make a part 2 and discussing questions like this. I even have more of an appreciation for keeping a stone natural and just enjoying it the way nature created it and that is something I tried to capture in this video but there is a lot of unanswered questions and facts I need to address and bring to light. Thank you for the question I appreciate your interest in my videos and hopefully this answered a bit of what you were asking and I will get to specifics very soon.
show us , we buy
thank you so much!!!
test that with UV lamp.
What is your gemstone Little white
I never made a video but I would like to.My sapphire is fancy yellow and blue with pink and a hint of red with super clarity
My name is drew
I got two gem grade sapphires that will blow your mind
Been looking for this
I been finding ruby
Sometimes I find really nice facet that they miss, or just really good crystals.
I want sales rough corundum
Nice 👍❤
price per caret
We need to talk. I do go out and get off the land and have hella finds. Need to team up maybr
I wouldn't mind collaborating together, I'm always happy to help a fellow rockhound!
@@FirstCallToTheUniverse hi sir, i am also a passionate gem lover. I want some one like you to teach me and help me out in knowing the real valuable ruby.
@@hotcool7962 man there's a lot that need's to be said here about corundum and the truth. I will make a second video please watch it.
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i have a diamond from meteorite and black diamond you want to see ? and more ruby likes yours
we buy diamonds
Ganhou mais um amigo like
Actually they are super easy to get, not just in "tight circles" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not quality pieces they're not because they get sold before average collectors can get their hands on them
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I have the same quality of stones.
show us
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Que bueno, seria que lo tradujeran en español,
Can you?
Yeah bro sorry but ruby is not hard to come by in the rough simple buy a stone get it certified by GIA boom no closed loop just people who know there shit and people who dont pretty simple bro lmao
Well sorry this is a video for the common rock collector. This is strictly my interpretation with my own personal experience at the time when I too was first starting out. Tight loops means jewelers, Commercial lapidary facilities, and private buyers. I know of a place now too but the difference is they sell rough sure but it's in bulk and for very good money, And it does get bought out as soon as it hits the floor. I mean sure I've seen better images and videos after I made this but I wanted this to be more for identification purposes more. So people could compare and share their finds. And as for the GIA stones that are submitted usually are cut first, rough stones hide imperfections and flaws. Their job isn't only to Id the material but to grade it as well. The thing is you pay 100 dollars per stone to get a certification to verify and grade it but if it's not worth even that, it's not worth it to you or them time and money wise either. I'm curious about the rough you have found online, please share a link so we can check it out, I'm not doubting you I'm just realistic, and mine is all natural unheated, untreated, rough corundum and not small little pieces real developed crystals.
@@FirstCallToTheUniverse I think you did A GREAT JOB! Very informative! ❤
@@bigsky445 Thank you very much for the support. I'll check out your channel as well!
I got shit ton. Help me and I'll help you if you help me get rid of.
Give me email and I'll send ya pitchers. . I'm in Michigan.
@@KatinaHayter-oi3uf I'll take a look I'm on facebook Andy Roads just message me I'm the one with a bunch of rocks on my page lol.
Would you possibly be willing to help me identify a few?
yea my facebook page is linked below just send me a message and I'll get to you
Sure it's not spinel?
Yea because this looks nothing like spinel and from all the different things going for these stones that ID them as Corundum you'd think tht would be apparent.
Use a black light it will show blood red if rubies.
Not really any closed loop? You can buy rough ruby online cheap the skill has to do with heating them properly for maximum clarity the rubies at least then you need to polish and cut them then put them in jewelry then they can make you money cause if it isn't for making money there's really nothing special man go online cheap ruby and sapphire from all around the world rough for cheap you can even get rough diamonds for cheap online lol closed loop man come on at least Google the shit you talk about knowing sorry but for real.
Yea most of what you find online is not only treated but lead glass filled as well. To find rough decent natural red decent grade corundum it is not that common at all. And it depends where it comes from as well there's a difference from each location. In some places everyone gets searched and the good stuff is taken by those in charge of the area as well as quality and size matter too because anything that can't be used in valuable jewelry is sold to locals, and anything that can is held onto and used in expensive pieces.
I want sales rough corundum