What Must I Do to Be Saved? Catholicism and the Doctrine of Justification | Prof Francis Beckwith

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    This lecture was given at the University of Oklahoma on February 6, 2020.
    Francis J. Beckwith is Professor of Philosophy & Church-State Studies at Baylor University, where he also serves as Associate Director of the Graduate Program in Philosophy. Among his over one dozen books are Defending Life: A Moral and Legal Case Against Abortion Choice (Cambridge University Press, 2007), Politics For Christians: Statecraft As Soulcraft (IVP, 2010), and Taking Rites Seriously: Law, Politics, and the Reasonableness of Faith (Cambridge University Press, 2015), winner of the American Academy of Religion's prestigious 2016 Book Award for Excellence in the Study of Religion in Constructive-Reflective Studies. He is a graduate of the Washington University School of Law, St. Louis (MJS) as well as Fordham University (PhD, MA, philosophy).
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Komentáře • 40

  • @JoeGantz
    @JoeGantz Před 7 dny

    Great talk. I Iiked the analogies and the ';both\and' description of Catholic Doctrine.

  • @nancya8262
    @nancya8262 Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderful lecture!! Thank you so much for sharing this brilliant man's insights and reflections. The Thomistic Institute is a true gift from God.

  • @ThruTheUnknown
    @ThruTheUnknown Před 3 lety +1

    I'm just wondering how a treasury of merits fits into this idea of justification & not having to work to pay off sin debt?

  • @mvwil
    @mvwil Před 2 lety

    What is this about the Eastern Orthodox believing that baptism is unnecessary?

  • @zachweaver5878
    @zachweaver5878 Před 2 lety +1

    18:21

  • @jessebryant9233
    @jessebryant9233 Před rokem

    29:55 - How do you deal with that? Uhm... (1 John 2:1) Sinners cannot atone for their own sin (singular). (James 2:10) Death is the wage of sin, not SINS. (Romans 6:23a)

  • @ConciseCabbage
    @ConciseCabbage Před 4 lety +3

    24:10 - This is offensive to a Protestant at best, and dishonest at worst. I would not recommend saying this in a conversation with a Protestant. "If you had the grace of God, you'd agree with me" lol.
    On a different note, the idea that Grace is a substance that can be absorbed is very strange. Protestants tend to view Grace as a growing in relationship / knowledge of the other. Entering into covenant with God is entering into a grace filled relationship (as opposed to getting your grace meter filled up with grace substance).

    • @jstevo1349
      @jstevo1349 Před 3 lety

      and protestants are wrong

    • @deaconjohn7875
      @deaconjohn7875 Před 3 lety +2

      Eastern Orthodox teach that Grace is participating in God's Divine energies, which is what St.Peter calls a partaking in the Divine Nature this causes us to grow more and more in the Divine Likeness, which is our original calling since creation. With this distinction included, the western distinction of justification as being in phases i.e initial, progressive, and final is helpful and the view that it is both an event and a process is also helpful. The unmerited event makes the process possible.
      Grace is uncreated and through grace we have communion with God, through the God Man Jesus Christ.

    • @deaconjohn7875
      @deaconjohn7875 Před 3 lety +1

      @C&M K Have you considered the claim of Eastern Orthodox to be the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ and Rome to actually be in schism and culpable for many distortions and innovations away from the Faith once for all delivered unto the saints? Perhaps Rome's teaching on what the Petrine office is may not be how the early Church understood it? Have you compared Orthodox ecclesiology to Roman ecclesiology? God bless.

    • @deaconjohn7875
      @deaconjohn7875 Před 3 lety +2

      @C&M K I think in the core of things we have the same doctrines but the problem, theologically, from our perspective as Orthodox, is that Rome has added many layers of scholastic speculations and made those into dogmas on top of the core Apostolic doctrine itself. It is these additions that divide us. We believe these are distortions or mutations of the faith.. Orthodoxy allows no additions or subtractions to the Faith...so the idea of the "development of dogma" is a big difference and basically encompasses all of our differences. On the positive side, We do have a lot of theological and moral truths taught in common. I do appreciate the contributions of Roman Catholics in sharing these truths with others. I find the Roman catholic works written on the subject of justification to be very helpful and that is what brought me to the CZcams page. I am very interested in this subject and in the subject of the atonement too. God bless.

    • @mvwil
      @mvwil Před 2 lety +1

      @@deaconjohn7875 something I think that those in the East sometimes miss is that the Latin scholastic definitions are almost tautological-or at any rate, they are fully compatible with the eastern way of seeing/thinking of things. And there is historical precedent for this. I think at the council of Florence the Greeks had to be assured by the Latins that despite our iconography we do not insist that the fires of hell are literal physical fire. What the church obliges its members to believe may surprise you. I mean just the fact that there are Eastern Catholic Churches, and the Catholic Church encourages them to retain and hold on to all their traditions, including or even particularly their theology! That should say something about the Catholic Church’s conception of itself and its own dogma-in a word, there is great leeway in the expression of the same divine mysteries.

  • @jessebryant9233
    @jessebryant9233 Před rokem +1

    Okay, so what _IS_ the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Roman Catholic Church? "...what must I do, that I may be saved?" (Acts 16:30)

    • @lukasg9031
      @lukasg9031 Před rokem

      Believe and be baptized

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 Před rokem

      @@lukasg9031
      Believe what and why?

    • @lukasg9031
      @lukasg9031 Před rokem

      @@jessebryant9233 believe the Gospel…

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 Před rokem

      @@lukasg9031
      What IS the Gospel?

    • @lukasg9031
      @lukasg9031 Před rokem

      @@jessebryant9233 what type of trap are you trying to set up???
      We all know what the Gospel is… it’s that Jesus Christ, fully God and fully man came as a humble baby through the Blessed Virgin Mary, performed miracles on earth, later dying on a tree for the sins of all humanity so that we may be reunited to God as Christ as our mediator. Christ would 3 days later resurrect from the dead proclaiming his victory over death.

  • @Norbert-yk4jy
    @Norbert-yk4jy Před 4 lety +1

    Guys, don't you think a title like "what must I do to get closer to God" is more appealing? For a start, "what must I do to be saved" sounds selfish; it's also based on fear rather than desire.

    • @stephenjohnson9632
      @stephenjohnson9632 Před 4 lety

      Chosen Skeptic
      Not exactly

    • @stephenjohnson9632
      @stephenjohnson9632 Před 4 lety +3

      Chosen Skeptic
      Faith is only in “God’s works on the cross”?
      Faith is without repentance?
      That’s not what scripture teaches. For the sake of your soul, I hope you aren’t relying on that alone.

    • @stephenjohnson9632
      @stephenjohnson9632 Před 4 lety

      Chosen Skeptic
      Ok, I don’t read the KJV anymore. What do you think Romans 11:29 is saying?
      What did Saint Paul mean in 1 Timothy 4:10 by “trust in the living Savior”? That sounds like more than just His works on the cross.

    • @stephenjohnson9632
      @stephenjohnson9632 Před 4 lety

      Chosen Skeptic
      Belief in a what or belief in a who? Belief in an event or belief in a Person?

    • @stephenjohnson9632
      @stephenjohnson9632 Před 4 lety

      Chosen Skeptic
      We don’t attempt to earn our salvation. We can’t. We cooperate with whom we trust, whom we follow, whom we give ourselves over to, whom we serve, and whom we love - Jesus Christ. It is He who saves us and leads us to heaven. It is by His works done for us, on us, in us, and through us that save, not our own works.