We Needed MORE!!! The Owl House Season 3 Episode 2 Review
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Meh 😑
I've had it for a year but can't for the life of me use it. Everytime I turn it on, on any of my devices it blocks internet for some reason.
Willow and Hunter slowly becoming Canon makes me wish they gave us more episodes, because i still think that their relationship could use more development but i'm sure a lot of people would think that another shipping arc is the last thing that this show needs.
I wish it had more development too but I love it
Blame the mouse!
Like Lumity needed a little more to but this one needed the most.....thank the mouse
It’s all Disney’s fault. I don’t care how undercooked and underdeveloped it is in canon thanks to corporate meddling, I’ve been a fan since it was a crack ship. I’m here forever, baby!
@theluigifan1 that's honestly my opinion on the owl house as a whole. I wish that some day we would see "The owl house: Terrace's cut".
So, I think Basha actually has a crush on Amity. At the very least, on some level, she treasured her friendship with Amity more then she realized. She was a bit hurt when Amity started hanging out with Luz and even started dating. She popped up every now and then just to try and get Amity’s attention. It probably hurt even more that Amity never truly saw Basha as friend to begin with.
Also, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALADORE?! We saw Ed and Em have a wholesome sibling moment with Amity and we even saw her mother with the collector. What about Aladore? Is he ok?
he probably got turned into a puppet, ot seems everyone who was AT the day of unity had the most risk of being turned into a puppet as they were the closest to the collectior and had to still be weak from the draining spell
I was genuinely expecting Basha to just outright confess to Amity when she dropped on her knees like that.
This whole "Letting you go" speech really indicates twards this.
@@yves9055 EXACLY
I noticed how Boscha acted towards Amity too
“The only thing I ever really wanted was to be understood”
RIGHT IN THE NUERODIVERGENT FEELS!!!!!!!!!!!
So TRUE!!!
Facts!
Right in the to cheesy, but to true feels.
I learned a long time ago to not need it.
Relatable
Willow’s arc is just so DAMN SATISFYING!! And the lesson about how the reliable people needs people to support their emotional needs too. Super relatable!!
(Still wanted a Willow Vs Boscha fight so badly though)
I also like the fact that while she definitely developed, she doesn't feel like a completely different character, unlike Amity.
It reminds me of Deku’s arc “dark” in My Hero. He’s so used to being the self-sacrificial martyr guy that when others try to offer him help, it gets to a point where he starts insisting he’s fine and begins bottling up his emotions. Same for Steven in Steven Universe: Future.
@@theluigifan1 Comparing Willow to Steven Universe future feels like a sin
Dana must have seen all the people saying “I love Lumity but I don’t love how it took focus off of Willow, Gus, and all the other Hexside kids development” and was like “don’t worry I gotchu”
@@philly_sports1558 Better late than never I guess, especially since never is only 1 episode away
I love how Dana and the crew managed to turn Huntlow into a legitimately great pairing outside of just cute aesthetic reasons. Those two characters see themselves in each other, they have fantastic chemistry, and the way they help one another with their issues is just so heartwarming. Between Lumity, Huntlow, and Radea, Dana and her crew know how to write compelling romance better than pretty much every cartoon I’ve seen.
Huntlow is basically the best romantic sideplot since Holt & Kevin from B99 and Felix & Calhoun
WAY better than Bow and Glimmer let's be real
I’ll be honest, I wasn’t a fan of huntlow before but now I’m OBSESSED!!!! LIKE THEYRE SO CUTE TOGETHER WTH😭😭😭
@@ninatheinkling5748 huntlow is what 2020 me wished glimbow was
@@ebonydarknessdementiaraven4610 me too
I think The Collector being somewhat harmless was on purpose, as long as he play "the owl house" with King he won't be too dangerous, and that them saying _"I want to play a new game"_ is him just breaking free of the "safe box" King put them in with the play pretend game
if the collector goes and transfigures the whole isles in the finale that would make sense
Nice job with the he/they pronouns! I feel a lot of people just pick “he” or “they” for people who use those pronouns.
I think what makes the collector seems less threatening Is that he's a Chaotic Neutral character. He's not inherently evil, he's just an overpowered child. His intentions of having fun is pure and the threat he gives mostly coming from how unpredictably powerful & easily manipulated he is. And put that next to Belos, a Lawfully Evil character that we understand his evil plan, corrupted intentions and his power: a flesh sucking monster that possess people. Can't top that.
Villain wise I think the whole series is focusing on Belos as the main antagonist. And yes, kikimora is just a side antagonist joke to help the story progression imo.
I agree. I think the fact that he’s not actively rampaging the country side turning everyone into puppets is more in line with his character anyway. He’s a child so his little minion star monster bringing him “toys” makes more sense. He doesn’t actively care about getting new ones as long as he’s still having fun with whatever game he’s playing. If he gets a new doll awesome but its not like he really wants or needs them. I’m also surprised no one brought up the rest of the bed time story. Collectors of the past possibly killed each other or were killed for interfering with mortals? The poem seems to say that he’s literally meant to be god, to keep all of creation in a zoo like environment to ensure its survival. Who wrote that story? Other collectors? Titans that killed them?
@@Cegg960 I think that line was meant to imply the opposite. That if mortals interfere in the Collectors' affairs, they will kill them all. To me, the moment I realized that was the most harrowing thing in that episode. The fact that there are other Collectors out there, with all that power, that are so much worse than this kid.
@@nicholasrowland5899 honestly it would have been nice to see the collectors father being evil, and sure putting in more dangerous villains is an anima thing but dang it I wanted this show to continue.
@@nicholasrowland5899 The irony in this is that the Collector rewrites that bit saying he'll just become friends with everyone instead, not realizing that what he's done by turning everyone into puppets is just a sanitized version of the passage saying to neutralize all threats.
I can understand why the Collector appears underwhelming due to the ominous buildup he had in earlier episodes. However, that doesn’t make me any less nervous about what he plans to do in the finale. I also don’t mind that the resolution might be found in a single conversation b/c honestly the lack of communication has been the root of most of the problems in this show. So talking is a reliable theme. In addition, I think the way to deal with the Collector has always been to shoot first ask questions later so a little compassion would go a long way.
9:53 Philip will always continue to believe that Caleb fell in love with a witch because he was under a spell that "tortured him against his will" and Philip as an advocate of euthanasia believed that killing him would free him from his "torture".
The brothers' story really reminds me of Hansel and Gretel' in the "Fables" comics. After escaping and killing the witch, Hansel and Gretel wondered the world until (as adults) they emigrated to our world with the rest of the fairytale characters in New York. There they discovered that the witch had survived and is now under amnesty for her crimes. Gretel stayed in the fables' community, but Hansel refused and instead went to Europe where he became a witch hunter. Years later Hansel retired to New York to find that not only had his sister befriended the witch, but had also started practicing magic with her. Hansel said "Oh dear God! Satan, unable to attack me directly, strikes at me through my own sister!" and then he killed her.
@@valentinkambushev4968 well that's messed up...
There's so much ya can interpret from Belos little sidequest and hallucinations this episode. I also just love how the Gus/Hunter/Willow friendship has become such a prominent little group and its nice to see them all support each other. The Huntlow scenes were also adorable and its cute to see that they finally have started to own up to their feelings while still being a relatively new thing for both of them. Raine continues to catch no breaks.
“Raine continues to catch no breaks.” and then I died 😭
The Owl Crew really said: "We are going to introduce a character halfway through our whole runtime, make them the most lovable and awesome person and then continuously fuck them up, so you don't actually get a lot of time with them."
I would really have preferred a real confrontation between Willow and Boscha instead of Boscha revealing some abandonment issues to Amity.
Honestly, the fact that Willow wasn't uncontrollably trying to hurt Basha was a bit of a let down
Man I was waiting for Willow to just punch her in the face or something
@@0Magicallywild0 Thw fact that there could've been Willow beating the crap out of Boscha with her plant magic out of control was a letdown.
I was 100% ready to see Willow throw down with Boscha since its LONG overdue
@@0Magicallywild0 satisfying for us, but Willow just isnt vindictive like that. she would hate herself for letting loose like that.
Emerald Trio (Willow, Gus, and Hunter) own my SOUL and I am not afraid to admit it. I have repeatedly called them the best example of platonic and romantic soulmates, and the fact that their scenes all feel so well balanced and they all love one another so much is SO GODDAMN SATISFYING TO WATCH. They legit deserve their own spin off. Emerald Entrails Sports Anime WHEN?
The fact Gus is so vital to Willow and Hunter is great too. It's a true trio and I love seeing them bring out the best in each other.
Honestly wish we could’ve had more from those 3, mainly just Gus and Willow in season 2. Gus got completely sidelined in his 2 episodes because of Hunter and Lumity, and Willow was just forgotten. If we got all 20 episodes of season 3 I like to believe that those 2 would’ve been fleshed out more, but it really sucks as those were both awesome characters :(
“The only thing I ever really wanted was to be understood.”
Us, Luz. Us.
For anyone who feels it can still be seen as a “best friend” gesture, the pinky hold is an intimate gesture that suggests flirtation and playfulness. It’s a sign that the relationship between both parties is relaxed and built on firm trust and a strong bond.
So Huntlow/Winter/Golden Garden stans, WE WON!!!!
IM SO SO SORRY I JUST STILL DON'T FEEL IT I'M TRYING SO HARD TO AHHH
LETS GOO
I love Huntlow, that is to say that it's not personally a problem to me with them, in general, I can't keep thinking about how ironic it is that the GP people who whine at queer ships that "men/women can't be friends anymore," are NOwhere to be seen when it comes to het ships. That being said, I love and HOPE that we can have a least an episode showcasing the depth of their relationship (I can dream lol).
@@sunnysducks DID YOU NOT SEE THE WAY THRU CLICKED THEIR HANDS?????
IF THEY WERE JUST FRIEND THEY WOULD HAVE ONLT HELD PINKYS
I NEVER NEW THE NAMES WINTER AND GOLDEN GARDEN I LOVE THOSE SO MUCH THANK YOU
Disney can't keep getting away with this.
Disney and Netflix have proven to have no interest in showing shows with real Quality.
@@toadlord8594 and HBO max too. God 2022 was a horrible year for animation on the small screen.
@@valentinkambushev4968 honestly hbo max the only one still putting on for animation tho
They have enough money too
@@rummyz6412 they canceled every good animated project to make room for Velma.
I do have to appreciate the fandom on this front when it came to the episode leaking because there were incredibly few people spoiling it. The whole fandom collectively agreed that this episode was gonna need gatekeeping and I am here for it.
Actually, Kikimiki and Boscha had some utility in this chapter.
Yeah, kiki is everything but a menace and Boscha is only a Bully, but considering that this chapter had FINALLY some focus on Willow, they need something to make her explode, that's why Boscha is here, to be mean and help Willow explode, but considering that this is a critical situation, there was some small, really small possibility that Boscha had some "development" offscreen, so we need something that ensures she not only remain mean, but also static so she can "develop" in this episode, and here is where Kiki enters the stage.
She wants to survive, so she used some kid to gain some power and feel strong for once, then they use her to separate the group, and that way we have our 3 scenes: Willow crying, Boschamity one-sided, and Luz finally being understood.
So, those two are not characters but tools to move the plot forward.
There was a better way? Absolutely, but considering there's no time to waste, better use those two and give them a small role to help the main group
To be honest I forgot Boscha even EXISTED and I was pretty sure that kikimora was dead or turned into a puppet
Boscha felt COMPLETELY forgotten to me as a side character until literally this special and it's feels weird giving focus to a mean character that..didn't matter much in the story. At least Pacifica felt like a relevant side character.
Honestly, I think it was smart to use Boscha. There were past episodes that were entirely dedicated to her being the antagonist to the rest of the group, so it makes sense to use her to move the plot in this one. I do think the sudden abandonment issues came a bit out of nowhere, but it does make sense in the context of a kid who lost their family and closest friends to what's basically an apocalyptic event. She probably thought Amity was puppeted/dead too, so she wanted to grab on and not let go to this piece of her old life that suddenly came back.
Yeah, hard disagree that the two didn't need to be in the series. We don't have a lot of time left, and it'd be nice to wrap up every character. Boscha needs to have her story - however small - come to a close.
And Kiki NEEDS to be in this episode because I NEEDED to see Luz's mom beam her in the face with a wooden bat. I honestly needed that more than the new ship sailing - and I was all about Hunter FINALLY getting some kind of happiness in his miserable life.
@@namegoeshere5220 that Kiki get hit by a bat was the funniest and greatest thing I've seen in this series.
I wish we had more episodes but I'm hoping for books after the show ends
what if we get willows photo album
@@tiptoewordsgo maybe a diary of what happened in the human realm and this adventures would be fun to explore
Yeah, or a series of books that are graphic novels that tell the story of what the owl house could have been if it wasn't cut.
We'll probably get the Marcy's Journal equivalent to the Owl House. next year or so.
I'm so happy huntlow is cannon its my comfort ship but if gusmatt doesn't also become cannon I'm gonna cry, they literally had some moments in this episode and it was adorable. I also felt so bad for willow when she said she missed her dads, I started crying so hard. These kids are my age and they go through so much shit its sad, they are trauma magnets.
In my humble opinion, i think they should stay as friends
I see them having a funny dynamic as friends
canon*
Considering there's one episode left I don't think Gus is going to get into a romantic relationship at the end of this.
@@Mary_Studios is it confirmed? like we definitely will be getting atleast one more episode, or a few more? and also, do you know how long it may take? i recently binged it from start to finish so im still pretty new ;;
@@nephosia from what I've heard that's the case
Why does Dana and crew insist on making me suffer with Raine Whispers?
GOD YES, WHY COULDN'T HE POSSESS LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE
possessed raine is hot tho
@@theflaminglitten-fo6jd Because Odalia's body would've rotten away too quickly, so he went with Raine due to their body being made of wood
Did Basha have a thing for amity? Because she instantly dropped to here knees and begged this girl to stay with her, at first I thought it was because she missed her grudgby team but after rewatching the scene again I’m getting different vibes
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I could legit buy the concept of Boscha having a thing for Amity. WOuld have been neat to see this be explored more in depth.
@@pedanticat9479 Even if the show wasn't shortened I don't know how Boscha has fans, but I feel it's mostly from her looks and character design cause her personality without development doesn't grab me.
Something I also love about this ship is that Willow and Hunter are both equally incredibly powerful and strong. This isn’t a case of “strong female character who later can’t do anything without her love interest” or “dumbing down male character so female love interest seems better than him”, this is 2 equally strong characters who can hold their own fight. And at the same time, it doesn’t shy away from the two needing to save each other, and does so in such a good way.
i kinda feel that the Collector problem will kinda be solved in the finale, due to Belos convincing him that King is out to get him and Luz is gonna help him, it now feels like Hes out for blood, and theres not gonna be much the cast can do to physically stall him
My snails are on the Collector being depowered and rendered mortal. This episode makes a big point of the Collector being a kid despite his powers, and Disney wouldn’t want to kill off a kid.
@@jbcatz5 well tbf this is The Owl House we are talking about, who knows maybe they pull the trigger on him
Willow reminds me too much of myself, stuff it all down until you break
Also, the star willow gets drawn on her forehead looks like the symbols on the puppets foreheads
Thinking about these last two specials of The Owl House, I realized that the structure and pacing of these episodes remind me of when an anime will have a recap movie that condenses a season of the show into a feature film running time. These episodes feel like recap specials that are condensing content worthy of multiple episodes and just focuses on the important story beats of the season. Even though I am impressed that these episodes were able to have impactful storytelling and phenomenal character progression and execute them pretty well within the timeframe provided, I feel like this season (and the latter half of season 2 to an extent) won't be able to escape the stigma of condensed stories and cut content that show audiences that more was clearly planned for the series but the staff weren't able to follow through on these ideas.
I became a big fan of this ship after a while, and i thought willow was kinda undedeveloped but this episode helped and looking over, she has more than i realize, with becoming a confident plant magic user despite being bullied and originally issued with a coven she wasn’t even good in. She even gets her own team but still has a panic attack during tough circumstances but is reassured that her holding it in isnt good for her health.
It really is crazy how despite being in the show for far less time + only having a handful of interactions, Hunter has a deeper bond with Gush and Willow than Luz does. I think this is stemming from the fact that the show prioritized Luz's relationship with Eda, King, and Amity being fleshed out compared to Gus and Willow.
Willow is more or less absent in S2 until she and Hunter meet as well now that I think bout it
Oh hey. You're here too?
@@floricel_112 Eeeyup!
9:28 Luz finally took the number of steps necessary for the egg to hatch.
💀
I love that they gave us Hunter and Willow I hate that we won't be able to see there relationship grow. This episode was great and made me cry my eyes out a handful of times. But the fact they have been able to push 20 episodes into 3 episodes they are doing amazing.
Winter/Huntlow's gotta be my OTP, and I'd KILL to see more of them.
Edit: YES! You're gonna make a Huntlow video!
Willow truly is the embodiment of Robin William's quote, "All it takes is a beautiful fake smile to hide an injured soul and they will never notice how broken you really are."
omfg the hunter/willow romance that’s budding has my heart completely, i need these two in my system, *rn*
Someone on twitter made me realize that in the scene at 6:53, when Hunter thinks he heard something outside the house, he instinctively tries to grab his staff, and then becomes self aware of it. That was a big oof.
This has gotta be one of the best The Owl House episodes here. But words cannot describe how 3rd and final part's episode is gonna turn out. But looking forward to see what happens. Countdown to April starts now! Just 3 months away! And can't wait to see Luz test out more of her Snake Shifter pailsman!
Is it wrong that I am more invested in Willow, Gus and Hunter's relationship then I am with the one that the fandom won't shut up about?
No. The show shown enough of lumity in season 2 (i don't hate the ship, I enjoy watching the couple), but it made a problem for gus and willow not getting enough spotlight
Willow character get more development is what was needed and yesterday's episode helped with that.
Season 2 was 40% lumity, 20% hunter, 20% King and 20% everything else
Seaosn 3 episode 1: 50% luz and Camila, 40% hunter, 6% amity (she convinced the others to keep looking for a way back to the demon world and she came up with he idea to tell luz at a costume party), the other 4% is gus, willow and V
Seaosn 3 episode 2: 50% Camila and luz, 30% hunter, willow and gus, 19% king and collector, 1% amity for convincing bosha to switch sides and help the gang
Point is, amity and luz got their spotlight as a pair and its good seeing hunter and willow get the screen time they deserve
I love them too. Gus and Hunter's friendship is so wholesome and something about Huntlow just brings me comfort.
I love Luz and Amity but Gus, Hunter and Willow have a great bond with each other because I think they can relate more to each other because they've all have trauma that are somewhat alike but I still love Lumity but Huntlow has more heart
not at all, Digimon had people choose their favorite Digimon and the fandom never agreed on their favorite. you like what you like.
They’re both great. I don’t like pinning one great part of the show with another great part of the show. I just enjoy both.
Funny how no one realizes that Camila is going to be the one to talk to The collector and make them realize that they've done wrong, she will be the real hero here
I'm ready to see Camilla adopt Collector and give them a proper name.
9:14 It ALMOST got you? ALMOST? I cried for a quarter of an hour after that scene.
Also everyone in the team needs therapy asap and I just love the way Camilla asked willow kind of instinctively feeling that she also is not okay
Personally, I cried at the Willow segment. I related a lot to her bottling up all those feelings for the sake of others, trying to be the glue that kept everyone together, trying to be the shoulder to lean, not wanting to bother others with her problems, only for everything to come crashing down until she found comfortable enough to let out all her pent up emotions and break into tears
@@floricel_112 same. Just yeah. You summarized that extremely well btw. This show is damn good at pointing out stuff to you that you should discuss with your therapist.
I wish Christianity wasn't such a taboo in animation, because if it wasn't we would have been able to see how Philip's twisted understanding of Christianity affected his worldview and set him on his quest to annihilate every witch. He would have been this generation's Frollo.
I completely agree! I was pretty confused as to why terra talked back to the collector since she had seemed intelligent up until now lol
"Reasons to hate Disney list."
Yeah... this episode sums up a lot of bad things about Disney.
Releasing on iTunes early? Check.
Release on CZcams for Kids for no recommendation and ad revenue? Check.
Poor advertising across the board? Check.
Disney as a corporation can go boil itself in the isles.
Hell, Disney channel Bulgaria was advertising season 2 more than the American one. And I was expecting that the show would banned in Bulgaria for the LGBT resolution, but no. Season 2 was not even censored. What is this crazy world?
I have a perfect relationship with my mother, I love her and I genuinely think she is the best mom ever.
the scene with Luz made bawl out nonetheless
God imagine how much character development, screen time, back story and action we would have gotten from 20 episodes like originally planned. Fucking Disney.
Probably ten episodes would have been wasted on stupid Earth shenanigans, so it's just ten episodes of character development, screen time, back story and action.
Dana Terrace why do you have to make our characters so dang cute!!! ❤
First with Luz and Amity, now with Willow and Hunter. As well as our other favorite characters, this show is just by far the best in my opinion.
I wish there was a vote or a fundraiser before Disney considers quitting shows because most of the criticisms of this season is because they only had 3 episodes and so far they've done amazing considering the cards they were dealt
I’ll be completely honest, I wasn’t a big fan of huntlow but now I’m OBSESSED!!!!!
THE PINKY HOLDING??????
THE BLUSHING?????
THEYRE SO CUTE WTH I NEED MORE😭😭😭😭
I have no idea how you managed to make this video since the release of this episode!! It’s incredible!
Leaks 🤣
This guy is always so fast
The leaked one
I don't get the people who watched the leak, and then proceeded to spoil things for people who didn't. Like, just shut your mouth and wait till everyone's seen it, it's not that hard.
I believe that the collector seems less dangerous in this episode is cause hes not pissed. Like Belos kept telling him lies so he straight destroyed him. But none of these people have done anything to him so theres no reason for him to act the same way. Plus hes an actual child that likes bagel pizzas, yea hes strong, but he uses his powers for kid stuff cause thats just how he is.
The collectors problem is he's supposed to be the bigger bad revealed for the final season. But he's not. He's a kid getting manipulated by different characters.
Hate to brake it to you, but there where signs about the Collector for quite some time. Honestly much of the fandom had already predicted that this would be how the Collector would behave and act. The real surprise though is that background images and other things hint that the Collector has a bit more depth to him, and may have some trauma that he's not dealing with (kind seems to be a theme in this special the more I think about it)
Why does everything have to trauma?!
I'm just not okay with Belos taking over Raine's body.
I HATED how the Collector stopped eavesdropping on King's conversation with Eda and Lilith. Like a few more seconds more and they would've seen he had good intentions and Belos would've just kept manipulating more negative thoughts on them. I dont know I just hate that miscommunication trope. But that's my negative note. Everything else was perfect in my opinion💕
It was interesting how much it made sense to me that the coven head were the Collector favorite puppets. Being only connected with Belos the whole time the Collector would somewhat of have a familiarity with the Coven Heads.
yeah, i was a little shocked to see how little changed on the boiling isles, i was expecting full weirdmageddon but it's only really localized to where the collector is, and the skull...
12:58 Mrs Blight: so my husband thinks I'm a bad mother? he's going to see how I turn this kid into a success and not a disappointment like Amity...
Interestingly the recipe for a Grimwalker has palistrum wood, making Hunter part palisman in a way (I theorize this is why flapjack was able to fuse with Hunter)
I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembers the misfit hideout. I mean this was the perfect chance to bring it back as a way keep all the kids in hiding. It's not like the space is too small and all three misfits that new about it are still in the school. Hell they could have used it to plan stuff out instead of hiding the photography classroom. They probably just forgot about it in the the rush to condense the season into 3 episodes.
I may be biased, especially with the fact that Emperor Belos has genuinely worked his way up into being my favourite villain of all time, but I think Belos is one of the most complex characters in the entire show and every single one of his story beats has not missed and it keeps me constantly engaged
He's a horrible person but such a compelling character. His determination is insane.
I get some of your points. I have personally loved both episodes. Because this is a character driven show/episode, I think it did make sense to show KiKi and Bosha the way they are here. They're both characters who want to have authority and command over others. I recall Amity saying in the grudgeby match episode Bosha's identity became tied into being the captain figure. When she lost her team, it looked like she didn't know what to do. Having Kiki by her side to round people up, and Amity to relive some of her "glory days" made Bosha desperately want familiarity back. I also think Bosha refused to admit she was hurt when Amity initially left the pack. I also suspect that the lovely art we get in the credits is trying to serve a bit more story/context as the creators of the show know they don't have alot of time to tell certain tidbits of the main and side characters during an episode.
I feel like you're missing a vital piece of the collector's nature when describing how much of a threat he can be. While true, he is harmless as long as you play his games, the real threat here is him WANTING to play a game with YOU and YOU becoming the sole object of his desires. The collector does not like being told no, so being told that "i don't want to play right now" would probably make him do what that scratched out verse in his story book said they're capable of
7:44 WE GOT THE FIRST WILLOW BLUSH HUNTLOW NATION IT'S F*CKING MUTUAL
Huntlow is sweet and most adorable. Who dares to throw shade on it.💖💖💖💖
Pausing the scene where King reads The Collector his "bedtime story" and reading the scribbled out bits gives some interesting lore implications. Like maybe The Collector is the least threatening out of a whole species of Collectors that go around the cosmos collecting worlds Mass Effect Reapers style, and maybe we should be glad he's rather harmless... So Far.
You're definitely right about people latching on to one character because there wasn't time for all of them. I watched it with my older brother, and he cried when Luz realised her dream (I did too, but I cry at commercials on a bad day), meanwhile, as a mum friend tm, I broke down and sobbed when Hunter and Gus were comforting Willow
I literally just watched this episode like an hour ago and this could be the serotonin of the show being back and everything but I LOVED this episode. The only complaints I have really have to do with the suddenness of Kikimora and Boscha and that I wished we got more time with Mattholomule (Mat Tholomule?) which could have both easily been solved if Disney had simply allowed this season to be an actual season.
So yeah main takeaways-
1) Camilla: Yes daughter, like you I too used a be a nerd.
Liz: HOLY SHI-
2) I GET HUNTLOW NOW. I SEE IT. I can understand why people like it. I’m jumping on the train! At first I was just to a stupid envious Goldric fan and I thought the shipping was all to sudden and I couldn’t see it BUT I GET IT NOW. I KNOW WHY. MY IGNORANCE HAS BEEN DESTROYED AND THIS EPISODE HAS MADE ME SEE THE LIGHT! HUNTLOW
3) STRINGBEAN SUMPREMACY! I would kill and die for this little baby. I love it how they made it a shapeshifter type of deal and found it really funny when the characters were spouting the fans’ theories. I think it’s really in character for Luz AND I LOVE STRINGBEAN AWWW
So yeah great episode.
Ngl it was a pretty okay episode. First, luz’s mom was actually irritating me a little. It’s understandable the shock but it looked more of disgust, and she barely tried to hide it, which contributes to Luz’s feelings of needing to return back. Second, willow and hunter didn’t get the development they deserved. Willow confronted her feelings very briefly and the ship didn’t really get to sail. Luz’s palismen felt like something that happened a little randomly, which is something i’d expect in the more middle of an episode. Third, Boscha didn’t get redeemed. It sucks a little since Boscha is practically the same as before. Lastly, Hunter’s behavior for most of the episode came out of nowhere. I get that he may be scared or fearing what belos has done but he legitimately had no reason (from what I could see, correct me if i’m wrong) to act this way, and it’s almost like a redemption reversal, like he has the attitude of his golden gaurd days. Definetly didn’t expect it and it really just felt out of place. I just think alot was abrupt and the episode felt like someone slapped an ending. It’s such a shame since it had so much potential to be such a classic. All in all, it’s not the best and I think it falls a little below average, compared to some other world-class writing in other episodes the team has done. I totally get the time constraints, but in full honesty, everything just felt out of place with a lack of context. I wish that things were done a bit differently.
I still think the Collector got a really good appearance, but it just felt like we missed too much. Both what happened in the Isles and the many things in the episode that seemed to be briefly mentioned. I get the time constraint but I was just left dissatisfied, and the ending felt very abrupt. It just didn’t come to a soft close, or set anything else up that would leave the viewer in suspense or awaiting the next episode unlike other counterparts. It was just kind of like: “they’re planning stuff, collector”
@@FrappeInsider I do not agree with most of your points, so here's some rebuttals to your points: The reason Hunter was acting like that is because flapjack died last episode, his. First. Friend. Got killed by Belos, of course he'd be mad as hell, Camila is experiencing culture shock and fear of the boiling isles but she is still wanting Luz to stay here. Boscha doesn't need to be fully redeemed because not every antagonist needs to be. The only thing I agree with is that Hunter and Willows development was not fully fleshed out because of Dinsey
@@hybrid3006 First, Hunter's attitude just randomly started, he was not acting like this after the major fight. Second, Camila just rubbed me the wrong way. She had a bit of an attitude to be honest and it just didn't do it for me. Camila is such a supportive person but for most of the episode she had just made things worse for Luz, especially her mental health.
One thing I liked about the lore of Collector’s kind is that they are just supposed to be watchers and they are not allowed to intervene with humans.
But The Collector doesnt like that
The collector reminds me if the kid from the episode “it’s a good life” from the twilight zone. In that episode a six year old kid is born with the powers of a god. He can create anything he wants and make anyone who displeases him disappear or transform them into horrible things. He has made the whole world disappear except for his little farm town. All the adults around him, including his parents are terrified of him and will do anything the boy demands in fear of being transformed or disappear. You can feel the fear the adults have for this kid and how they are walking on eggshells cause there is no reasoning or educating an immature child with the powers of a god. I wish we could’ve gotten a bit more of that fear factor with the characters around the collector. Everyone should’ve been terrified of this kid. I felt like everyone was too careless considering the situation. Still a good episode and enjoyed every minute. But if you were hoping for that fear factor in the collector, go watch “it’s a good life” from the twilight zone, it’s a classic 😌
It’s been a while since I’ve seen it but I’m pretty sure Anthony just moved the town away from the rest of the world.
@@thomasraines1396 i just watched it again cause i couldn’t remember either. But yeah it’s not really clear if he made the world disappear or just moved their town away. All the towns people know is that there is nothing out there beyond their town.
@@pickocha oh fair enough, either way really nightmarish stuff.
The Luz & Camila scene being followed by the Hunter Gus & Willow scene made me tear up so bad ahhhhh
All I can say is wow! There were a lot of unexpected twists and turns that I both enjoyed and a little scared of (possessed puppet Raine is definitely one of them), Willow was one of my favorite highlights I feel bad for her missing her parents, I would be if something like that happened to me but it’s good that she did let her emotions out instead of keeping them in. Boscha’s character arc was pretty good, glad that she won’t be a huge a-hole. Luz’s palisman is absolutely adorable and I can’t wait to see more of Stringbean. As for The Collector, all i’m going to say is Luz and the others better watch out
Overall 100/10.
I kind of agree with the idea that The Collector seems manageable in this episode, but I also want to point out that he had no reason to be pissed off or act out for the whole episode. The entire time the Collector was around he truly and wholeheartedly believed that King was his friend and King was using this to semi-successfully manipulate him to behave himself. The reason why the kids can just hang out at the school without needing to worry all that much is because the collector isn’t Bill Cipher, this isn’t weirdmagedion, truthfully it’s not even really meant to be an apocalypse. He’s not obsessed with world domination and suffering, he doesn’t want to watch the world burn, he just wants to hang out and play games. He has no reason to care about the people that aren’t bothering him. (This is a personal theory) I think it’s kind of funny and cute that the safest place from The Collector is a School because you would think that such an immature kid would want nothing to do with school and probably wouldn’t go anywhere near it. As for the fact that the world isn’t completely different, why would it be? Him and King have been playing The Owl House this whole time, it would make sense that the setting for that game would just be the Boiling Isles. However, I think we will see the collector going absolutely godmode in the next episode considering that now he’s peeved and King will have no control over him and he has an actual target to point his omnipotent power at.
Something that I never liked is how Luz blames herself for helping Belos. Belos has been alive since around 1600 something(idk correct me if I'm wrong) and she was already in his memory because she taught him the light glyph.Luz going to the boiling isles were bound to happen,Belos was just waiting to here about a certain human on the isle. Luz mi amor it was never your fault you just have a heart of gold that this entire fandom loves.
Honestly, as someone whose favorite character has been Willow since the very first time she showed up on screen, I have done nothing but win. I loved this episode. I would have loved it if it had just the Willow scenes followed by 20 minutes of a looping gif and canned voice acting tho fjfkjrbfjfjd. My girl got a mental breakdown and she DESERVED it
As a Kiki-More-Of stan, her presence was not only appreciated, but very satisfying. She was so gremlin in this episode and that is all I really need from her.
Not to mention that we finally saw her without her collar.
I've always liked Kiki. Most ppl hated her but I was genuinely intrigued. Her plan was pretty smart too, if she tried it with adults!
@@gladisseabrook3309 Why try it with adults, when kids are easier to manipulate?
"Kiki-More-Of" LMAO i'm dying- Honestly same. She's such a fun villain, quite nasty too.
Seeing Belos’ Wendigo form (that’s what I’m calling it personally) gradually decay throughout the episode was AMAZING! Watching parts of his limbs fall off into green sludge, as he desperately clawed his way back to the Grimwalker Crypt was nauseating, chilling, unnerving, pitiful; just a maelstrom of emotions seeing this man-who’s barely human at this point-completely hellbent on finishing something he started lifetimes ago. Even after the Day of Unity he planned for centuries failed, and as his body’s quite literally falling apart on him, expiring well past its due, he’s. still. GOING.
It really makes you wonder, even if he HAD made it to the Portal Door before he’d regressed to his monster form in “King’s Tide,” if the devoured palismen had such a horrific effect on his body…what was the endgame gonna be if he had successfully made it back to the human realm? He’d have still been on a timer if he didn’t keep devouring them, with a clear lack of inventory on the other side. Luz putting the sigil on his arm during the Draining Spell merely accelerated this regression, but he still would’ve ended up like this a day back among humans without palismen to consume. Let that sink in; THAT’s how desperate this man is to get the final say in something more than 3 centuries old, after the only other parties-his late brother, Caleb, and Caleb’s partner-are long gone.
Edit: Nvm, seems you call Belos’ Monster Form a Wendigo too, at 12:14
DISAGREE about Hexside. The Witch School of Demonics has provided some of my favorite episodes. AGREE that Kikimora is more like a mosquito buzzing in your ear & we could've done without her in an episode where even Eda had just a few minutes of screen time.
I was so excited when I saw willow blush at him!!
This is the first time she’s shown to reciprocate hunters feelings, so *FINALLY*
The collector should be used like that Twilight Zone episode. Where the kid was a god and all the adults were terrified of him and having mental breakdowns.
Basha is clearly dealing with PTSD. She watched her only two friends get turned into mannequin corpses, and she only survived by pure luck. This would be horrifying for anyone, but it especially messed with Boscha’s image of being the best of the best of the best.
One might think that a Queen-bee, bullying, star jock would flourish in the apocalypse. But Boscha is totally dependent on society, in that it’s titles, trophies and accolades as a lens for their self-worth. (In the same way how Amity once lost her mind and composure in pursuit of a golden sticker awarded to Willow). So Boscha is desperately trying to surround herself with trappings of the old world. Amity is the last surviving member of the Grudgeby team, who were Boscha’s tools for social climbing through competitive sport. But they were also Boscha’s closest friends, though she’s not capable of acknowledging that vulnerability. Not verbally, at least.
It’s an excellent illustration for why some people will reject progress and revolution, and try to hold society back in the state where the working people are at each other’s throats for scraps. It’s not because they themselves are well-off in that kind of society. It’s just that the only viewpoint for their success is being held aloft above their peers, in some way. In a better world where everyone would be given enough to be happy and secure, people like Boscha can’t track their own progress and self-worth.
After watching the episode, I just reallly despise what Disney did to the show. I really love it. The story, characters, and even it's flaws. The only issue I probably had (especially for season 2) was how rushed it was. Because season 3 was scrapped, we missed so much possible stories and it's so upsetting. The writers of the show did an amazing job actually managing to fit a coherent story line from 3 seasons to just 2 seasons and 3 45 minute specials. I honestly attached to Luz's and WIllow's story because they're both so heartfelt and I just felt myself in those seens. I'm happy Luz found how she wanted to be understood because that's more meaningful to a character than just wanting to be a witch and save your friends. And happy this episode gave Willow the proper character development than in season 2, where she was pushed aside.
For collector I could not agree more.
I think show at some point the crew completly shifted plans for collector as a villian to a just a child. Him snapping at Tera for something less extreme would make him scary but also make him less likebale
About the collector, I think the problem is that it was much easier having him be threatening cause in his introduction, he was against Belos and no one wanted him to live. So without any real villains, it’s difficult to have him keep that same energy as his introduction without hurting fan favorites. At least this way when he does get redeemed, people won’t be so agitated about it.
I believe the reason Collector is so "toned down" is due to the fact that King is holding him back. He's prolly gonna get scarier in Episode 3 but yeah, the way the other characters treated him was.. Unlikely
we can all agree that it seems belos non existant coincous have finally caught up to him and making him relize the gravity of what he has done at least when it comes to his brother and there grimwalkers
⚠️Spoilers!!⚠️
I’m glad I didn’t get spoiled, episode 2 was so good. Luz getting her palisman, Willow Gus and Hunter venting (somewhat) healthily to eachother. King growing up, Lilith’s short hair ❤️ and Belos still being a nuisance-
In the first 10 minutes it looked like Willow was on the verge of crying because if you looked in her eyes you would notice that it had two white dots. And the characters usually have one white dot. More white dots are added when a character is or about to cry.
I hope that makes sense, I'm not that great at explaining stuff
Remember when we were all afraid of kikimora because she did "something" raine but then It was just terra
No shades to the creator and the crew behind TOH, but if you have read the MoringMark comic of TOH about what the Boiling Isle could have been like, you would know that it could have been so freaking cool.
And it still could have kept The Collector as someone everyone is deadly afraid of, and everyone needs to put on a smile and try to appease him
It's so freaking good
I have read the MoringMark comics and i prefer is version of the Collector-Apocalypse
@@andreaniccoli8669 Same, it's so creative. It still gives all the minor characters things to do and a purpose, while amplifying the dystopian feeling of the Boiling Isle wasteland.
Also, there's a freaking rebellion resistance, end Eda's leading it, how cool is that ? It makes the other characters seem stronger and more put together, Eda and Lilith actually have a plan to help save other people, and the whole story doesn't hinge on Luz and the others making their way back to save everyone, because honestly, King's plan isn't working out.
4:47 that actually reminds me of my main issue with this episode: so many side characters, and yet not a single scene with alador? not even in the background, like darius? not even mentioned by his kids? i just don't feel like kikimora is as important of a character as amity's dad, on a purely "who should we be focusing on in the penultimate episode?" basis.
I think this episode probably got hit the hardest for needing to represent all the episodes that transitioned us from the earth stories to the finale. You can imagine so many of the character arcs and facets of Collector!Boiling Isles being explored in turn. But the one thing I will never critique this show is for being rushed, same with Steven Universe. Because "rushed" as a critique means *feels* rushed and without care. These shows were literally rushed in the sense of not getting their intended time.
Luz and Amity got so much brilliant character growth in the early seasons that, while I wish we could have more time with them now, I still don't mourn it. They're a strong pair and such a good example of a loving yet still-working-it-out couple. One of the best, honestly, I've seen on TV given love interests tend to matter only for the will-they-won't-they.
I'm amazed by how TOH has worked with the gutted seasons and even *improved*, giving the time and arcs to characters I expected to fall by the wayside. I can't believe Hunter, Raine, and Philip were only introduced in Season 2 because they feel so intrinsic to the show. Similarly, the Hunter/Willow/Gus trio was a stroke of brilliance to give them all screentime and development with their central goal of finding friends who see the good in them when they themselves don't.
I am very happy that I predicted (partially) what Luz's palisman was going to be. I guessed shape-shifter since Luz is always changing
This guy just preached everything I could’ve said about this episode. I was super disappointed that the collector wasn’t more of a threat, because I was hyped about the idea of a borderline uncontrollable child with no concern for others at all. And I thought the whole hexide trope was kind of a bit of a waste. But then I loved willows little arc and her and hunter are just SO CUTE! I really hope they’ll actually make them get together in the finale.
Overall the episode was good, but not exceptional, but it’s basically excusable just because of the time crunch the team had to deal with when this was supposed to be a whole season long.
i feel like (maybe) Camila will be the one to talk down the Collecter in the finale, and that King will possibly give him François (because of that little moment in this episode). Also i want Hunter to be the one to destroy Belos, and Caleb's spirit is shown smiling/thanking him. It would be amazing if the two finally met for a happy moment in the end.
Someone is going to adopt the Collector. I'm calling it now. Either Camilla, Eda or even Lilith will adopt the Collector and give him the family he needs and the Collector will offer to end the curse but Eda will say no while Lilith might agree to it.
When I saw Belos' brother's ghost, especially with the dagger on top, it was giving me Macbeth vibes
I can forgive the difficulty with spotlighting all these character moments because again, _THREE_ episodes to get all this done. If anything I'm just impressed this one pulled off as much as it did without nearly as much reliance on montages as S3 episode 1.
"Not everything can be solved with a good attitude and a dope music soundtrack" -Willow Park
I get where you’re coming from with the Collector. Out of everyone in the cast, King is the only one who maintains a steady, lowkey terror of this child god. This hurts the Collector’s presence, because even if the Collector isn’t outright hostile, everyone should believe that one misstep equals enslavement, death, or worse. I think in the effort to make the Collector a sympathetic antagonist, the Owl House team overcorrected and dropped how fickle & murder-happy he was shown to be in the season 2 finale.
That said, I feel that it’s fitting that the Collector doesn’t go out of his way to remake most of the Boiling Isles. He could, if he really wanted too (using part of the Titan’s skull to make his castle is clear of that), but the Collector is only interested in playing. He doesn’t exert anymore effort into remaking the environment than he needs to. He’d rather cast illusions than remodel. And who knows, maybe the lack of a complete overhaul indicates some lingering respect for the Titan, as those murals suggest the Collector made friends with the Titans… for a time.
In fact, I swear that’s why Odalia was included in this episode at all. Sure, seeing her play servant and being bossed around after keeping her family under her thumb is cathartic. But her argument that the Collector can remake the Boiling Isles into something bigger, greater, only for the Collector to shoot her down, is like an acknowledgment from the writing staff that, no, he’s not terraforming everything. So shut up asking.
Maybe the Collector (or Belos, if he successfully possesses the Collector) will fully terraform the Titan in the finale, but I feel like it’ll be too little, too late. The finale can only change things & raise the stakes so much in its limited run time. Honestly, it may have been better to use those floating stars & other creations of the Collector more. Have them stalk the Isles more, give some hunter & prey vibes. Something to sell the suspense more. These stars would lack the personality that Boscha & Kikimora provide, but surely the characters could still their moments interspaced with these more suspensive moments.
I feel like the fight with Belos is gonna be like Kenobi vs Maul for the last time. Very minimal movement. A lotta thought put into the movements and at the end you don’t even know how the victor won until a few seconds later
Honestly, I loved the new episode! The sheer amount I could relate to Willow, throughout the entire series, how she started shy, and became a bada** and would rather comfort others before herself, and how sometimes it all comes crashing down and she looses it a little. Luz feeling understood, her PALISMAN? ADORABLE! Honestly, I also feel a little underwhelmed by the Collector. He should have been way more chaotic, and Boscha and Kikimora kind of need to be thrown in a dumpster the episodes they first showed up in. Also Disney shouldn’t have canceled the series!! We need more time to enjoy the show! Dana and the rest of the crew who work on the series need more time to grow the story, and characters and add the little details. But no. Disney has to cancel yet ANOTHER amazing show! Come on! The episode did amazing for the time it had and all the plot one could possibly cram into one episode. Camilla is a queen, we all love the closeted nerd, and relatable mom.
Ngl I'm surprised I managed to avoid the leaked episode clips
All of the Willow stuff was especially brilliant in hindsight, but MAN I'll never understand why the TOH crew went along with the Bosha/Lord of the Flies side story as the background B plot in the penultimate episode. I hope there's less of that in the final episode this spring, but oh well
Even if I don’t ship huntlow/winter, I congratulate and respect the shippers
I will never forgive Disney for cutting this short.
Also- that moment where Hunter freaks out thinking he heard something and automatically reaches for Flapjack's staff but realising he's not there... My heart ;_;