There were soooo many overt and subtle signs of racism and prejudice scattered throughout the episode: 1. Lindy was revolted and blocked the Doctor when he first appeared on her feed. 2. Lindy didnt block Ruby. She was more receptive to Ruby when she appeared on her feed. Lindy spoke to Ruby and believed her over the Doctor. 3. When the Doctor appeared for the second time on her feed, Lindy asked him if the monsters "have something to do with you" (she didnt ask Ruby this, just the Doctor) 4. Lindy told her groupcall to listen to the Doctor and that "i know this is wrong and after this is all over he will be so disciplined, i cant wait, and he doesn't look as stupid as he looks" (of course due to the color of his skin) 5. No person of color lived in Finetime 6. Lindy was shocked to learn that Ruby and the Doctor were in the same room together in such close proximity 7. Lindy told the Doctor "Didnt I block you? I knew it. I just thought you looked the same, but you're the same person I blocked. I was so right to hate you." (Implying all black people look the same) 8. When they met, Lindy told Ruby and the Doctor "Gosh, you two, this is strange." (meaning a white and black person working together) 9. And a few more microagressions towards the Doctor before they met in the final scene AND in the final scene where the racism got blatant.
They did a really good job of sort of misdirecting our attention. I think mostly we weren’t supposed to see it… at least not until the end, because the Doctor didn’t see it. Because despite his near limitless experience, this is probably the first time he has ever experienced racism directed at him. It’s the first time prejudice against him has prevented him from saving someone. Ruby was able to spot it before him because she’s seen it before with her family. So they set it up as an on the nose commentary on social media and privilege and then punched us is the gut with the racism at the end. I thought the writing and the acting was brilliant all the way through.
Let's acknowledge the acting skills of the woman playing Lindy. She played the part of one of the most despicable human beings I have ever seen, and she did it very well. How about we bring her back 40 years older, as a nun who's suffered and is seeking to repent for her sins.
She did do a marvelous job. I can imagine it's a bit nerve racking; oh you're going to be in the British institution that is doctor who and by the way you'll be carrying the whole episode . Don't mess it up 🙂
That song at the end is "The long song" mixed with a slower version of 15's theme. The Long Song is from the Rings of Akhaten, in series 7 with 11 and Clara, trying to rescue the little girl who has to sing a song to please the evil sentient sun. It's a beautiful song in both episodes in my opinion 🥺
You may notice on a second viewing that Ricky September was much more welcoming and friendly towards the Doctor than the others, definitely implying that he wasn't racist or at least not as much... which just adds to the tragedy of him dying and adds to the already lengthy list of reasons to hate Lindy. lol
Yeah since he existed outside of a "bubble" he was much open and capable. Ricky would have been in the TARDIS making tea before the doctor finished asking people to come with him.
Also, a great point RTD made with this episode was that a lot of people's first question with a black Doctor going back in time is: "will the Doctor encounter racism in the past?" but very rarely do we think about "what if the Doctor encounters racism in the future?" which is entirely fair.
I'm a reaction junkie also and I've been noticing we melanin blessed folk haven't caught on to the racism as quickly as most of our lighter complected relations (or our LGBT brethren and sistren). I just find that fascinating. 🖖😎👍
As a white man, I've actually seen the opposite happen - that we're failing to notice it, while people that have to put up with microaggressions like this are picking up on it pretty quickly. I suppose it's more down to the individual than race. One response that did interest me quite a bit was my friend, who hadn't seen the rest of the season yet. I recommended he check this one out. Now. As vore is my anti-fetish, I was genuinely quite frightened of the slugs, but my friend found most of the episode kind of funny. He was putting it at a 6/10, up until the twin reveals bumped it up to 7 as he felt they changed an enormous amount of the context for the episode.
@Drekal684 I've since seen more reactions, and you're right about it being the individual. Though the LGBT reactors I've seen still seem to catch on quicker. But I'm still watching other reactions. Like I said I find it fascinating.
The fact that you and I share humanity but just happen to have a different skin colour proves, at least to me, that we as people can miss the obvious without question, as I missed the overt racism, but I did pick up the on the contaminated remark as a openly superiority that the rich kids thought they had. I felt that when Peppa Pig walked into the lamppost, not just once but twice which I guess was meant to hammer home the point that it sometimes takes more than once to learn a lesson.
And a big THAK YOU from me. I feel a little bit better about myself. True story - when Lindy said "You sir, are not one of us." my wife said "I knew it!". I looked puzzled and she said "I saw immediately that they were all white." Oh, yeah, they were, weren't they. D'oh. Relevantly, my wife is of Indian heritage. And even after forty years of seeing the world vicariously through her eyes - we have walked into pubs in the UK where it suddenly went quiet and we just looked at each other and walked right out again, and so many other examples - how did it not click with me straight away? I mean, there were plenty of other reasons to dislike Lindy and the rest of them; privileged, vapid, infantile, selfish so racist was like the inevitable nasty icing on a very unpleasant cake.
Yay! I'm not alone in missing it. And exactly, the society is privileged, entitled, vapid, selfish and dim, I focused on disliking them for those obvious reasons and missed; oh and also racist 🤦🏽♀️
Those people will be dead in 30 seconds. In the final scene, you can see what lokks like a waterfall behind the boat. Not sure if its intentional, but it looks like they might drown shortly. I mean, i doubt they can operate a boat.
No worries past future you, I had the same awareness my first time through. One constant in this episode is just how much that society has to go. Team HAL9000 with space slugs all the way. Since finding your channel it’s a highlight to my week when you do these reactions, commentary, and fantastic editing. Thank you so really very much!!! My vote for which doctors would have left them would be One, Three, Six, Nine, Twelve, and Thirteen… possibly Two, Seven, Ten and Eleven depending the mood. Though it has been a minute since I’ve watched classic who.
i noticed some people saying that Lindy blocks the Doctor immediately but talks to Ruby,this is because the dot highlighted the doctor in red as a unsoliceted request, warning the user to block request,Ruby was not highlighted in this way so Lindy talked to her.
This episode was a humbling one for me. In another reaction video, I tried to give my thoughts on why I noticed the racism so quickly compared to many viewers, but I honestly just gave myself the ick because everything came out full of white privilege, hubris, and hypocrisy. Instead, I would like to point out another person's observation... that The Doctor said the Dot was an anti-grav so and so (rather than an anti-MAV) I'm extremely interested in finding out which strings will tie together in the end, and which are merely red herrings
@@Darkly_i_Shine Everyone was super nice about it. I'm the one who was mortified when I realized how self-centered it came across, on top of everything else, and I apologized on the thread.
P.S. (What I've been posting about this ep): This episode breaks two unwritten rules of the show as it pertains to prejudice/racism. First rule, established in Classic and continuing in Nu: collective racism/prejudice must be overcome for our planet to survive. Second rule, established in Nu: individual prejudice is something to be frowned on but will be overcome one day. (TEARING SOUND AS RTD RIPS UP THOSE RULES :) ) WOW....Um, gee.... Who is RTD going after? Anti-immigration movements in Europe? The Right worldwide, including in America? The Doctor Who anti-woke crowd? Everyone? Although the Jordan Peele/"Black Mirror" crowd will not be losing sleep over this, I deeply appreciate RTD's willingness to put up a very big finger at people who don't like his direction. This is very different from his first, more subtle DW take. There will be a lot of criticism of Ncuti crying *again.* But from the point of view of this American, this cry is more out of the tradition of 19th-century Frederick Douglass than a 20th-century British-created Time Lord, recreated in this century to great impact. ********************************* In all my posts on this episode I say it would be a fun game to figure out which Doctor would have walked away from this situation at the end. My votes would be Nine, Eleven and Twelve.
It's interesting to think that they would have gone with almost any other Doctor (not when Ten was with Martha or Rose and Mickey or when Twelve was with Bill or with Thirteen most of the time), which is why the Tardis didn't take any of them there, I suppose. But if the Doctor and Ruby hadn't come, Lindy would have gone along blindly, never taking her bubble down, until it was her turn to be eaten. (Maybe the other people too -- I don't believe any of them got away without also talking to the Doctor or Ruby.) Now she's just going off to her death a little later. So is the Doctor just there to have this experience? He wasn't very sensitive when Martha brought up racial issues ("Just act like you own the place. That's what I do") as Ten and punched a racist for Bill, which may or may not have been that helpful. Or is the audience (are we) the point, and how does that fit in with the walls between fiction and reality coming down after the Doctor invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe? Are we part of the show?
At first, I thought this was going to be one of those episodes that after my first watching, I'd skip it. However, after watching it, I find it's one of those episodes that I end up skipping unless I am in the right emotional place to deal with it. The way I headcanon the whole Doctor and Ruby timeline is simple... The Beatles episode was likely written to be the first weekend of June episode. It would explain so much, including the idea of that teaser at the beginning of the episode seeming like one of those beginning-of-the-season teasers for a later episode, plus Ruby's "Ruby powers?" being so much more than snow, yet then in the next episode it just returns to snow, not to mention the idea that the Maestro is the most powerful individual enemy The Doctor has faced, and somehow defeated them in one episode at the beginning of the season??? I figure that Disney wanted a BIG BAD at the beginning (to give new viewers an idea of what Doctor Who would be like, plus the exposition that was already in the episode), and they redid some of the episode order during post-production to allow for this. As for why Lindy could use stairs, Ricky did tell her to use him as her arrows, lol. But, in all honesty, walking without instruction probably began to come back to her as I doubt she was "in Finetime" as a toddler. I'm also sure Ruby and The Doctor were suspicious as to what happened to Ricky, but they didn't know how evil she was... at least, not quite yet. I do wish that The Doctor had mentioned the TARDIS when he first spoke to Lindy's group of friends (in which they question his box that is bigger on the inside), that way there wouldn't be any logical statement at all breaking up their racist rantings. They could easily keep the "voodoo" reference at the end, however.
@@Darkly_i_Shine People are on about Ricky, but Gothic Paul has as much chance of not being racist or at least able to change. (They all are, I think, and mostly would never change.) At least he could get outside himself enough to notice people were disappearing.
I think 73 yards didn't have an intro because the episode took place in an alternate timeline, and in that timeline DW does not have an intro sequence.
I fundamentally disagree with you, I think. Life is precious and one has to hope for redemption. If you can do something to save even those dreadful people, you should. To step back and choose who lives and who dies is to be like them. Were they they scum? Yes, but Ricky September, who probably wasn't perfect either, showed there is the possibility of redemption.
It was a good episode, especially compared to the rest of the season, but, yes, the inhabitants of fine time were awful people. A number of people (all white, that I’ve seen) have commented in reviews on how everyone, except the Doctor, shown was white and that was a sign they were white supremacists, and berated other white people for not picking up on that. I think it would be odd to pick up on that on the first watch, as there’s nothing unusual about the cast of a TV show being entirely from one ethnicity, what we saw was normal. We are so used to seeing all white or all Black or all South Asian &c casts that we don’t notice, same as we don’t see air and a fish doesn’t see water, it’s around us all the time. There is a question of why that is normal and how we can change that, but disingenuous faux hand wringing and virtue signalling doesn’t fix discriminatory casting. We do, however, have to factor in that Doctor Who is a British show and 82% of the British population is white, which is going to impact on the pool of actors available.
There were soooo many overt and subtle signs of racism and prejudice scattered throughout the episode:
1. Lindy was revolted and blocked the Doctor when he first appeared on her feed.
2. Lindy didnt block Ruby. She was more receptive to Ruby when she appeared on her feed. Lindy spoke to Ruby and believed her over the Doctor.
3. When the Doctor appeared for the second time on her feed, Lindy asked him if the monsters "have something to do with you" (she didnt ask Ruby this, just the Doctor)
4. Lindy told her groupcall to listen to the Doctor and that "i know this is wrong and after this is all over he will be so disciplined, i cant wait, and he doesn't look as stupid as he looks" (of course due to the color of his skin)
5. No person of color lived in Finetime
6. Lindy was shocked to learn that Ruby and the Doctor were in the same room together in such close proximity
7. Lindy told the Doctor "Didnt I block you? I knew it. I just thought you looked the same, but you're the same person I blocked. I was so right to hate you." (Implying all black people look the same)
8. When they met, Lindy told Ruby and the Doctor "Gosh, you two, this is strange." (meaning a white and black person working together)
9. And a few more microagressions towards the Doctor before they met in the final scene AND in the final scene where the racism got blatant.
I think 73 Yards didn't have an intro because the Doctor went missing, so it's like he couldn't travel in the vortex for the title sequence
They did a really good job of sort of misdirecting our attention. I think mostly we weren’t supposed to see it… at least not until the end, because the Doctor didn’t see it. Because despite his near limitless experience, this is probably the first time he has ever experienced racism directed at him. It’s the first time prejudice against him has prevented him from saving someone. Ruby was able to spot it before him because she’s seen it before with her family. So they set it up as an on the nose commentary on social media and privilege and then punched us is the gut with the racism at the end. I thought the writing and the acting was brilliant all the way through.
Let's acknowledge the acting skills of the woman playing Lindy. She played the part of one of the most despicable human beings I have ever seen, and she did it very well. How about we bring her back 40 years older, as a nun who's suffered and is seeking to repent for her sins.
She did do a marvelous job. I can imagine it's a bit nerve racking; oh you're going to be in the British institution that is doctor who and by the way you'll be carrying the whole episode . Don't mess it up 🙂
That song at the end is "The long song" mixed with a slower version of 15's theme. The Long Song is from the Rings of Akhaten, in series 7 with 11 and Clara, trying to rescue the little girl who has to sing a song to please the evil sentient sun. It's a beautiful song in both episodes in my opinion 🥺
Oh I actually really like "the long song" didn't realize it was in there. I wonder/hope they add this version to Spotify or something
Watching this again, you find yourself rooting for Dot and the creatures. Loudly.
Yeah, I hope dot is doing well.
You may notice on a second viewing that Ricky September was much more welcoming and friendly towards the Doctor than the others, definitely implying that he wasn't racist or at least not as much... which just adds to the tragedy of him dying and adds to the already lengthy list of reasons to hate Lindy. lol
Yeah since he existed outside of a "bubble" he was much open and capable. Ricky would have been in the TARDIS making tea before the doctor finished asking people to come with him.
There's a lot of room for Ruby and the Doctor to have Big Finish audio adventures.
Go team Dot/Slug!
You’re brilliantly funny!
💜💜➕🌈🟦
Thank you!!!😊
Ncuti was incredible in this episode
Yes! He was fantastic
As hard as the Doctor tries. Not even Dr Who can save Gen Z.
Lol!
100% Capaldi would have let them die! 🤣
Also, a great point RTD made with this episode was that a lot of people's first question with a black Doctor going back in time is: "will the Doctor encounter racism in the past?" but very rarely do we think about "what if the Doctor encounters racism in the future?" which is entirely fair.
I saw that and loved that thought process.
I'm with you. Go HAL!
Just Horrible people
I'm a reaction junkie also and I've been noticing we melanin blessed folk haven't caught on to the racism as quickly as most of our lighter complected relations (or our LGBT brethren and sistren). I just find that fascinating.
🖖😎👍
Actually yeah that is really interesting.
As a white man, I've actually seen the opposite happen - that we're failing to notice it, while people that have to put up with microaggressions like this are picking up on it pretty quickly.
I suppose it's more down to the individual than race.
One response that did interest me quite a bit was my friend, who hadn't seen the rest of the season yet. I recommended he check this one out. Now. As vore is my anti-fetish, I was genuinely quite frightened of the slugs, but my friend found most of the episode kind of funny. He was putting it at a 6/10, up until the twin reveals bumped it up to 7 as he felt they changed an enormous amount of the context for the episode.
@Drekal684
I've since seen more reactions, and you're right about it being the individual. Though the LGBT reactors I've seen still seem to catch on quicker. But I'm still watching other reactions. Like I said I find it fascinating.
The fact that you and I share humanity but just happen to have a different skin colour proves, at least to me, that we as people can miss the obvious without question, as I missed the overt racism, but I did pick up the on the contaminated remark as a openly superiority that the rich kids thought they had.
I felt that when Peppa Pig walked into the lamppost, not just once but twice which I guess was meant to hammer home the point that it sometimes takes more than once to learn a lesson.
They were space Nazis lol. I love your reactions ive just subscribed to you ❤
WELCOME! thank you for joining!
And a big THAK YOU from me. I feel a little bit better about myself.
True story - when Lindy said "You sir, are not one of us." my wife said "I knew it!". I looked puzzled and she said "I saw immediately that they were all white." Oh, yeah, they were, weren't they. D'oh. Relevantly, my wife is of Indian heritage. And even after forty years of seeing the world vicariously through her eyes - we have walked into pubs in the UK where it suddenly went quiet and we just looked at each other and walked right out again, and so many other examples - how did it not click with me straight away? I mean, there were plenty of other reasons to dislike Lindy and the rest of them; privileged, vapid, infantile, selfish so racist was like the inevitable nasty icing on a very unpleasant cake.
Yay! I'm not alone in missing it. And exactly, the society is privileged, entitled, vapid, selfish and dim, I focused on disliking them for those obvious reasons and missed; oh and also racist 🤦🏽♀️
18:02 Completely understandable.
Those people will be dead in 30 seconds. In the final scene, you can see what lokks like a waterfall behind the boat. Not sure if its intentional, but it looks like they might drown shortly. I mean, i doubt they can operate a boat.
I think since the Doctor was erased before the intro in _73 Yards,_ the intro was erased too.
😮 oh, I like that theory
@@Darkly_i_Shine :)
I think for 73 Yards, the only reason I can think of that we didn't get an episode intro was because the Doctor disappeared at the beginning.
How do they procreate without interacting? That’s what baby farms are for, I guess. Hopefully they haven’t doubled back to the same system. 🤔
Ohhh good point
This is your first vid ive seen and i cant wait to binge the rest ❤ subscribed ❤
Oh thank you and welcome!
@@Darkly_i_Shine absolutely love your sense of humor and editing 👏
The nice music at the end is this doctors theme... each dr since tennant have had their own theme written by the wonderful Murray gold....
No worries past future you, I had the same awareness my first time through. One constant in this episode is just how much that society has to go. Team HAL9000 with space slugs all the way.
Since finding your channel it’s a highlight to my week when you do these reactions, commentary, and fantastic editing. Thank you so really very much!!!
My vote for which doctors would have left them would be One, Three, Six, Nine, Twelve, and Thirteen… possibly Two, Seven, Ten and Eleven depending the mood. Though it has been a minute since I’ve watched classic who.
Thank you for all your kind words. And you're right 9 totally would have been off and left them.
The song theme u heard was a bit from the ring of akten episode with Matt Smith episode
i noticed some people saying that Lindy blocks the Doctor immediately but talks to Ruby,this is because the dot highlighted the doctor in red as a unsoliceted request, warning the user to block request,Ruby was not highlighted in this way so Lindy talked to her.
ANother piece of subtle racism? Whay was HE highlighted in red, and not Ruby?!
I just thought it was because he tried a making a friend request and Ruby just hacked in
This episode was a humbling one for me. In another reaction video, I tried to give my thoughts on why I noticed the racism so quickly compared to many viewers, but I honestly just gave myself the ick because everything came out full of white privilege, hubris, and hypocrisy.
Instead, I would like to point out another person's observation... that The Doctor said the Dot was an anti-grav so and so (rather than an anti-MAV) I'm extremely interested in finding out which strings will tie together in the end, and which are merely red herrings
PS - I obviously liked your edit :)
Hope no one gave u attitude when you were giving your opinion
@@Darkly_i_Shine Everyone was super nice about it. I'm the one who was mortified when I realized how self-centered it came across, on top of everything else, and I apologized on the thread.
P.S. (What I've been posting about this ep):
This episode breaks two unwritten rules of the show as it pertains to prejudice/racism. First rule, established in Classic and continuing in Nu: collective racism/prejudice must be overcome for our planet to survive. Second rule, established in Nu: individual prejudice is something to be frowned on but will be overcome one day.
(TEARING SOUND AS RTD RIPS UP THOSE RULES :) )
WOW....Um, gee....
Who is RTD going after? Anti-immigration movements in Europe? The Right worldwide, including in America? The Doctor Who anti-woke crowd? Everyone? Although the Jordan Peele/"Black Mirror" crowd will not be losing sleep over this, I deeply appreciate RTD's willingness to put up a very big finger at people who don't like his direction. This is very different from his first, more subtle DW take.
There will be a lot of criticism of Ncuti crying *again.* But from the point of view of this American, this cry is more out of the tradition of 19th-century Frederick Douglass than a 20th-century British-created Time Lord, recreated in this century to great impact.
*********************************
In all my posts on this episode I say it would be a fun game to figure out which Doctor would have walked away from this situation at the end. My votes would be Nine, Eleven and Twelve.
I'd have to think about it but definitely Capaldis doctor would have left them to their fate
It's interesting to think that they would have gone with almost any other Doctor (not when Ten was with Martha or Rose and Mickey or when Twelve was with Bill or with Thirteen most of the time), which is why the Tardis didn't take any of them there, I suppose. But if the Doctor and Ruby hadn't come, Lindy would have gone along blindly, never taking her bubble down, until it was her turn to be eaten. (Maybe the other people too -- I don't believe any of them got away without also talking to the Doctor or Ruby.) Now she's just going off to her death a little later. So is the Doctor just there to have this experience? He wasn't very sensitive when Martha brought up racial issues ("Just act like you own the place. That's what I do") as Ten and punched a racist for Bill, which may or may not have been that helpful.
Or is the audience (are we) the point, and how does that fit in with the walls between fiction and reality coming down after the Doctor invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe? Are we part of the show?
Love your Barbie shirt. That's it. That's the whole comment.
I accept and appreciate it.
At first, I thought this was going to be one of those episodes that after my first watching, I'd skip it. However, after watching it, I find it's one of those episodes that I end up skipping unless I am in the right emotional place to deal with it.
The way I headcanon the whole Doctor and Ruby timeline is simple... The Beatles episode was likely written to be the first weekend of June episode. It would explain so much, including the idea of that teaser at the beginning of the episode seeming like one of those beginning-of-the-season teasers for a later episode, plus Ruby's "Ruby powers?" being so much more than snow, yet then in the next episode it just returns to snow, not to mention the idea that the Maestro is the most powerful individual enemy The Doctor has faced, and somehow defeated them in one episode at the beginning of the season??? I figure that Disney wanted a BIG BAD at the beginning (to give new viewers an idea of what Doctor Who would be like, plus the exposition that was already in the episode), and they redid some of the episode order during post-production to allow for this.
As for why Lindy could use stairs, Ricky did tell her to use him as her arrows, lol. But, in all honesty, walking without instruction probably began to come back to her as I doubt she was "in Finetime" as a toddler. I'm also sure Ruby and The Doctor were suspicious as to what happened to Ricky, but they didn't know how evil she was... at least, not quite yet.
I do wish that The Doctor had mentioned the TARDIS when he first spoke to Lindy's group of friends (in which they question his box that is bigger on the inside), that way there wouldn't be any logical statement at all breaking up their racist rantings. They could easily keep the "voodoo" reference at the end, however.
THANKS for this!!!
You're welcome 😁
Too bad about Gothic Paul.
Yeah I liked gothic Paul
@@Darkly_i_Shine People are on about Ricky, but Gothic Paul has as much chance of not being racist or at least able to change. (They all are, I think, and mostly would never change.) At least he could get outside himself enough to notice people were disappearing.
I think 73 yards didn't have an intro because the episode took place in an alternate timeline, and in that timeline DW does not have an intro sequence.
I fundamentally disagree with you, I think. Life is precious and one has to hope for redemption. If you can do something to save even those dreadful people, you should. To step back and choose who lives and who dies is to be like them. Were they they scum? Yes, but Ricky September, who probably wasn't perfect either, showed there is the possibility of redemption.
It was a good episode, especially compared to the rest of the season, but, yes, the inhabitants of fine time were awful people.
A number of people (all white, that I’ve seen) have commented in reviews on how everyone, except the Doctor, shown was white and that was a sign they were white supremacists, and berated other white people for not picking up on that. I think it would be odd to pick up on that on the first watch, as there’s nothing unusual about the cast of a TV show being entirely from one ethnicity, what we saw was normal. We are so used to seeing all white or all Black or all South Asian &c casts that we don’t notice, same as we don’t see air and a fish doesn’t see water, it’s around us all the time. There is a question of why that is normal and how we can change that, but disingenuous faux hand wringing and virtue signalling doesn’t fix discriminatory casting. We do, however, have to factor in that Doctor Who is a British show and 82% of the British population is white, which is going to impact on the pool of actors available.