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  • Rain Dove, Kate Bornstein, and María José get real about sex and gender.
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Komentáře • 702

  • @luciacalleja8788
    @luciacalleja8788 Před 8 lety +214

    María José is stunning; I was enthralled watching her speak. What a beautiful way of talking, her expressions, her mannerisms, her face are just gorgeous.

  • @annika2174
    @annika2174 Před 7 lety +387

    Rain Dove is actually the coolest name ever.

  • @Ale-rq1nz
    @Ale-rq1nz Před 8 lety +1201

    the person with the long hair is so beautiful I'm in love

    • @poppyspainting1393
      @poppyspainting1393 Před 8 lety +7

      the man*

    • @evaashaaw
      @evaashaaw Před 8 lety +53

      +Natalie S. you've commented so many times on this video and you're so hateful, I hope one day you find peace within yourself and can be more open minded.

    • @poppyspainting1393
      @poppyspainting1393 Před 8 lety +5

      +eva shaw I commented two times, he's a man, there's only 2 genders

    • @poppyspainting1393
      @poppyspainting1393 Před 8 lety +1

      +SegwayIsTrash sorry I didn't know there were chromosomes for transgender and nonbinaries

    • @BluePlatipi
      @BluePlatipi Před 8 lety +24

      Sorry, I thought you meant /gender/, not sex.
      That's more of a linguistics error, seeing as how the actual definition of gender does not refer to chromosomes.

  • @MariaJacobe12
    @MariaJacobe12 Před 7 lety +95

    "chu chu"
    I CAN'T!!!!

  • @LarrosaMari
    @LarrosaMari Před 8 lety +400

    There's a part of me wanting Kate to be my grandma

  • @donteatmytoxiccandy4730
    @donteatmytoxiccandy4730 Před 7 lety +494

    Dafuq has BDSM to do with gender?

    • @malaka.1535
      @malaka.1535 Před 7 lety +4

      Don't eat my toxic candy ikr

    • @alexlikesgirls
      @alexlikesgirls Před 7 lety +33

      bdsm is not part of the lgbt+ community. there are obviously lgbt+ people who are into that but just because you like kinky stuff doesn't make you queer. imo

    • @nriracha
      @nriracha Před 7 lety +14

      I think they were talking about the style

    • @herpsenderpsen
      @herpsenderpsen Před 7 lety +24

      idk when BDSM slip under the LGBT term. it's a kink thing, it's unfortunate to mix it in with LGBT.

    • @floppybeef8689
      @floppybeef8689 Před 7 lety +51

      It was a joke lmao

  •  Před 7 lety +82

    Rain Dove looks absolutely as stunning in a dress as she does in male clothes and I really don't understand why she'd be seen as aggressive for wearing one. I was literally like "damn" when I saw her in the dress.

    • @WickedNPC
      @WickedNPC Před 7 lety +13

      She wouldn't be seen as aggressive for wearing a dress per se.
      It has to do with the different expectations on how men and women should behave. When people believe that she is a man her attitude comes across as normal but if people believe that she is a woman the same attitude comes across as aggressive and domineering.

    • @Galemor1
      @Galemor1 Před 5 lety +3

      She has a stunning body, but because of her masculine looking face, people think she's a boy, or a trans-woman, which they don't want to relate to.
      Because of that stigma, she comes forward as aggressive, but also because she doesn't really embrace the femininity, she still walks like "a man" when she wears a dress, and if she doesn't go all the way thru with makeup and stuff, she's actually just sending a message that screams and that is aggressive.

  • @InflightMami
    @InflightMami Před 8 lety +29

    "..so I'd wear a conductor cap for the next two years. whenever someone would call me 'tranny danny', I'd be like 'choo choo.. all aboard' " LMAO :D

  • @TonkaUpsidedown
    @TonkaUpsidedown Před 8 lety +37

    I honestly and truly can't see why somebody would be angry about this. These people are wonderful, amazing and have an inspiring story. The aren't hurting anyone by being who they are. On the opposite side, people who can't accept these persons are the ones who are the problem, they are the ones that we should be angry about.

  • @einsame_Maria
    @einsame_Maria Před 8 lety +99

    Rain Dove...I think I fell in love...

  • @imagine2C
    @imagine2C Před 7 lety +25

    when you have to think that hard to say who you are....just say "I am me"

    • @lunarcorpse
      @lunarcorpse Před 7 lety +1

      Or in Swahili, mimi nina me: meaning I'm me.

  • @july1996ful
    @july1996ful Před 7 lety +422

    I get gender fluidity because I like relate but like damn if your gender is a whole sentence. GIRL

    • @jvlixn
      @jvlixn Před 7 lety

      lmao

    • @KateHedgehog57
      @KateHedgehog57 Před 7 lety +21

      I believe they went with the "full title" as a point about how society is determined to put you into a box, by any means necessary. And the extended title shows how stupid that is. That being said, realizing that there was a word for how I am, which is also gender fluid, made me feel like I am not alone because there's enough people in the world like me, in one way or another, to grant a title.

    • @wayjae
      @wayjae Před 7 lety +5

      I get gender fluidity, but those outfits genuinely made me cringe. If you wanna be a manwoman, please wear a dress.... or at least something that matches.

    • @irise6661
      @irise6661 Před 7 lety +37

      saying that someone has to wear something to 'pass' a certain way is directly going against the idea of gender fluidity because you're saying they have to look like a man or a woman. that's not the point

    • @randomnessiscool
      @randomnessiscool Před 7 lety +21

      People can wear whatever they want and describe themselves however they want. Their 'gender' is a whole sentence because they're describing difference aspects of themselves. Just like someone saying "I'm a blonde, athletic, musically inclined, nerdy, gay, trans boy." That's just who they are, you can chill.

  • @userin2963
    @userin2963 Před 8 lety +14

    "I'm not transsexual because I love the body I have. My state of being is just unique."

  • @aden-lj7wb
    @aden-lj7wb Před 8 lety +390

    gender is such a personal thing. in my opinion, it's up to an individual to decide what labels make them feel good and fit them the best, or no labels at all. i think it's ridiculous that we're expected by western society to shove ourselves into these two ridged boxes, male and female. we only have one short life, why spend it trying to fit into a label that's practically unobtainable?

    • @musicnerd1967
      @musicnerd1967 Před 8 lety +8

      Well said!

    • @ruffey1748
      @ruffey1748 Před 8 lety +25

      gender is man and woman, not male and female. male and female are biological facts, which society has attached either masculinity or femininity to. male+ masculinity= man
      female+ femininity=woman.
      The only logical, factual part is the biological sexes, which aren't the same as gender.

    • @musicnerd1967
      @musicnerd1967 Před 8 lety +4

      Ra Fie That's a good explanation, I might use it some time.

    • @aden-lj7wb
      @aden-lj7wb Před 8 lety +5

      Ra Fie absolutely, i completely agree. using male and female as the equivalent of man and women in my first comment was just me trying to show how most of western society perceives it to be, as gender and sex going hand in hand. which isn't true. thanks for making me clarify though.

    • @cbreeze123
      @cbreeze123 Před 7 lety +1

      perfect, this is the difference

  • @contrabassoon
    @contrabassoon Před 8 lety +282

    Im very much part of this. I just don't get why all the labels are necessary. In my head, I'm a man who simply enjoys dabbling into the feminine realm.

    • @Romulano100
      @Romulano100 Před 7 lety +17

      Exactly!! All these people are trying soo hard... I can see their eyes screaming "I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE" I don't want to be rude but...
      (Sorry if my english is bad)

    • @rosysingh6699
      @rosysingh6699 Před 7 lety +4

      somehow...somewhere..i love you. Your comment is beautiful.

    • @trinityhill3084
      @trinityhill3084 Před 7 lety +1

      Romulano100 oh my gosh yes! :)

    • @Shizznickel
      @Shizznickel Před 7 lety +7

      I'd love it and I'm sure so many others would, too.. if it were this simple. I'm a woman.. I look like one, feel like one, and sometimes talk like one.. but sometimes, I'm kind of manly, too. :)
      Unfortunately stupid people like to push their rules on others so we need terms to make it easier for said stupid people.

    • @clairelouise3591
      @clairelouise3591 Před 7 lety +20

      Exactly! The first person is literally struggling to list all the things they label themselves as, they just seem to want to be 'different'. My friend is a girl and was born a girl but wears shirts/guys jeans etc. and people are always like 'oh so youre queer, transgender, non-conforming, genderfluid etc. etc.' and shes like '..i just like the clothes'

  • @MeerschweinchenLol
    @MeerschweinchenLol Před 8 lety +486

    I'm not sure what pronouns they prefer but i really wanna kiss the person with the long hair

    • @Ale-rq1nz
      @Ale-rq1nz Před 8 lety +32

      same holy crap they're aesthetically pleasing

    • @MariaJose-re4lt
      @MariaJose-re4lt Před 7 lety +8

      she/her

    • @Ale-rq1nz
      @Ale-rq1nz Před 7 lety +9

      +CARMEN Estrellas I'm recognizing her beauty ❤️

    • @icedovermoon
      @icedovermoon Před 7 lety +31

      How is saying someone looks good objectifying them?

    • @pupberry
      @pupberry Před 7 lety +2

      +CARMEN Estrellas what😂

  • @montieez
    @montieez Před 8 lety +588

    It's called pansexual and I'd kiss all of you.

  • @catherineheathcliff9025
    @catherineheathcliff9025 Před 8 lety +10

    Omg Maria Jose you are so so so so beautiful. Not only physically but that confidence you project. You left me speechless.

  • @torinakins
    @torinakins Před 7 lety +34

    seeing people as people really isnt that hard. you just choose not to.

  • @dianaherrera3828
    @dianaherrera3828 Před 7 lety +20

    Ok but I think I fell in love with Rain Dove srsly

  • @adelafejkova17
    @adelafejkova17 Před 7 lety +1

    I am crying like a baby and just replaying this video again and again, I cant stop my tears, this is SO BEAUTIFUL!

  • @shiho15
    @shiho15 Před 6 lety

    I was smiling with misted eyes all the time watching this. "There is more people that feel this way!!"
    Thanks for the clarity and the honesty.

  • @albatross7327
    @albatross7327 Před 7 lety

    "I'm looking for respect and intent" well said and full of compassion for themself and others. People who overcome society shunning them learned to love themselves without the help of the masses, and in doing so gained a compassion they can share with every and anyone. We misfits have the most golden hearts.

  • @OdinsSage
    @OdinsSage Před 3 lety +1

    Rain Dove, you are voicing EVERYTHING that I have been feeling since I was a child and it is SO validating. Thank you!

  • @nicole7193
    @nicole7193 Před 8 lety +6

    that was beautiful and....heart swelling....this made me cry in such a way that...i feel amazing but also sad because these things are taboo to talk about and that its not ok to be who you wanna be and act how you please....love who you wanna love....thank you for this beautiful video...

  • @jenbroccoli861
    @jenbroccoli861 Před 7 lety +2

    "I thought that meant that I was into trains." Wowzersssss! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @twosecondboy3378
    @twosecondboy3378 Před 7 lety +46

    BDSM aint a gender, darling. its a kink.

  • @cakeonaplate
    @cakeonaplate Před 8 lety

    rain doves childhood story always gets me! soo cute

  • @RICOLAWW
    @RICOLAWW Před 7 lety

    I don;t think I've ever loved a video on CZcams as much as this. Thank you. They have brought light to something I experience to a wider audience than who I come into contact on a normal basis.

  • @cocoacoolness
    @cocoacoolness Před 7 lety +31

    The first time my little brother dressed himself, he put on a tutu

    • @DabDiichLiieb
      @DabDiichLiieb Před 7 lety +7

      aish almotery why are you so angry, it's just a cute story

    • @selenalamothe997
      @selenalamothe997 Před 7 lety +2

      "Because tutus are usually for girls, look at him breaking the stereotype"
      on the other hand, its just cloth. cute.

  • @EmilieReneeRicordeau
    @EmilieReneeRicordeau Před 7 lety +5

    The person with the long hair somehow reminds me of Violet Chachki

  • @Warrendoe
    @Warrendoe Před 8 lety +7

    I'm sure when I was 20 I'd have found this confusing because I had never met people outside the broadly accepted 2 gender.s...but now at 60 life didn't go the way I thought to it would, I've had a fascinating life I'm just an ordinary woman single till I was 34....met a man totally opposite to what I thought I'd spend my life with and he died last year after w6 years together. The ONLY things that matter are being happy in your own skin, and to be loving and accepting with others....( as Jesus said "Treat others the way you want to be treated) and hopefully find someone to share your life with...all the rest is entirely up to you. I find these three people intriguing and beautiful and would love to meet them...I wish all 3 of you well in your life journeys. To those making negative comments ...if you were living a life based on love and tolerance you would not be making such comments and would understand. You have time to grow and open your mind and heart.

  • @rickyyblitz4971
    @rickyyblitz4971 Před 7 lety

    You're all so fabulous! Everyone of you deserves to live the life you want, you are all, truly an inspiration xxx

  • @vivianrose3273
    @vivianrose3273 Před 8 lety +1

    I saw Rain Dove in the thummbnail and screamed. Also great video!

  • @user-wo3mq1nk1k
    @user-wo3mq1nk1k Před 7 lety

    I actually relate to the person with the pink jacket thing, it feels good to know that there's people like me in the world. ☺

  • @cakeonaplate
    @cakeonaplate Před 8 lety +11

    while it would be ideal to go without labels, society isn't ready for that yet. We're still hung up on liberal vs conservative lol. I feel for these individuals. Feeling threatened for experimenting and discovering is absurd. Just because I have manly qualities doesn't mean that my femininity is broken. This movement kind of encourages people to see others as human beings, rather than a label. And for some people, humanness is scary. Talk about being scared of your own reflection!!

  • @arrahmasyafrani5481
    @arrahmasyafrani5481 Před 8 lety +3

    Whatever you want to be in life be the truest you. what an inspiring soul ❤

  • @elafrum1278
    @elafrum1278 Před 5 lety

    Anybody choking back tears hearing their stories?

  • @towhatdegree
    @towhatdegree Před 7 lety +1

    This is beautiful. It's so inspiring to see people unapologetically being themselves.

  • @birde7421
    @birde7421 Před 7 lety +2

    Beautiful. I truly love this.

  • @katrinekaersvang2438
    @katrinekaersvang2438 Před 7 lety +29

    I definitely support that one can be whoever and whatever they are. But, I often hear trans people say something like "as a kid I couldn't imagine growing up as a woman and like wear dresses and have long hair and stuff so I knew I was a man" and theres just something wrong with that statement in my opinion... I identity as a girl/women and can't imagine wearing dresses and having long hair neither... If one thinks that thats the only look a women can have then I understand why one would think that the gender is too shallow for them to feel comfortable identitfying with. But if you think the gender society put on you from birth isn't enough or that its too shallow for you, why not just redefine it? With that being said, again, you can be whatever and whoever you are:)

  • @user-gt8xg3fk4e
    @user-gt8xg3fk4e Před 7 lety +40

    I HAVE THE SAME TARDIS NECKLACE. YYYAAAASSSSSS DW.

  • @alexskmidy776
    @alexskmidy776 Před 7 lety +1

    Maria Jose please put out a hair routine I am LIVING FOR IT

  • @aimlessalix8066
    @aimlessalix8066 Před 8 lety +4

    6:40-6:47 Love that, best way I've heard it explained

  • @ZaraOver
    @ZaraOver Před 8 lety +14

    Maria is attractive really

  • @amyg4983
    @amyg4983 Před 8 lety +16

    Fuck who you want look how you want act how you want, as long as it's not hurting anybody then who's to judge

  • @nickorange4881
    @nickorange4881 Před 7 lety

    The person in the red purple-y jacket looks awesome in the white dress.

  • @breesevere
    @breesevere Před 7 lety

    This is great! These are beautiful people inside and out.

  • @naomi-art-stuff
    @naomi-art-stuff Před 7 lety +5

    I love this video thank you so much

  • @trompijoe
    @trompijoe Před 6 lety

    María José is just breathtaking 😍 (I'm from the island and I would give anything to be somebody that feels this comfortable in their own skin)

  • @andyfreak
    @andyfreak Před 8 lety

    This is really good!

  • @axica5434
    @axica5434 Před 7 lety +9

    What a group of beautiful people

  • @katustay
    @katustay Před 8 lety +2

    I love all these people! Rain Dove is one of my fave people of all time, the person with the long hair is pretty fabulous/awesome and the older person is so cool :)

  • @4ratx99
    @4ratx99 Před 7 lety +2

    I'm a pan demiboy and I. love all of these people they're such inspirations

    • @4ratx99
      @4ratx99 Před 7 lety

      the bab with the gender is over shirt is the best I love them

  • @coocoobananass
    @coocoobananass Před 7 lety +15

    hello, I'm Amanda I'm a girl but I dress both really. I'm bisexual and I'm doing great :)

    • @thatsnotmyname4091
      @thatsnotmyname4091 Před 7 lety

      what do you mean you dress both????? CLOTHES DON'T HAVE GENDERS RIGHT??? :D

    • @Shizznickel
      @Shizznickel Před 7 lety +1

      Lets not split hairs here.. We all know that they mean "traditionally" because traditionally clothes are usually associated with specific genders and some are not.

    • @thatsnotmyname4091
      @thatsnotmyname4091 Před 7 lety

      Shiloh 陆冬恋 I think everyone should just wear whatever they want, and not what they ''traditionally'' should wear

  • @sashafierce5764
    @sashafierce5764 Před 5 lety

    Maria Jose is littt. The energy is giving me life

  • @tesslouise7722
    @tesslouise7722 Před 7 lety +1

    Rain Dove slays in that dress! She's looks absolutely beautiful! 💃🏽

  • @surcarilita
    @surcarilita Před 8 lety +1

    love these videos

  • @tacos394
    @tacos394 Před 7 lety

    awesome video!!!!

  • @draxula7325
    @draxula7325 Před 7 lety +1

    Rain dove is absolutely stunning I love her so much

  • @theofficialwatermelon8583

    Be what makes you happy so long as you're doing no harm

  • @GirdyTee
    @GirdyTee Před 6 lety

    Thanks for sharing, like also the age range.

  • @milenuez
    @milenuez Před 8 lety +1

    I just love this videos

  • @luizavazquez7029
    @luizavazquez7029 Před 7 lety

    CHOOOO CHOOO ALL ABOARD I'M LITERALLY DYING

  • @aprilfinucane
    @aprilfinucane Před 7 lety +1

    I'm so incredibly in love with this

  • @valkyrienanjo5750
    @valkyrienanjo5750 Před 7 lety

    Rain Dove is legit like my favourite stranger though 😭👏🏽👏🏽❣

  • @meanlittlegoblin
    @meanlittlegoblin Před 7 lety

    Power to these beautiful creatures, so wonderful to see people who know who they are and who tell their stories. xx

  • @KC-to9xl
    @KC-to9xl Před 7 lety

    Choo choo! that is adorable and hysterical :)

  • @Ami_Ama
    @Ami_Ama Před 3 lety

    I ❤️ Rain Dove. I'm in love with her personality, mindset, the whole her.

  • @snaileef
    @snaileef Před 7 lety +2

    I love all of these people and their styles and their mindsets so fucking much

  • @lonnie_illustrator
    @lonnie_illustrator Před 5 lety

    So is gender like if your masculine or feminine or you like to do both?

  • @brxwneyedwxman_9564
    @brxwneyedwxman_9564 Před 4 lety

    maría has some of the most beautiful hair i’ve ever seen omg

  • @femiyr
    @femiyr Před 7 lety +1

    im glad im not seeing many negative responses to this video!!! It makes me happy people are accepting, and if not, tolerant to this and that at the least is comforting :^D

  • @MADEbySOUL
    @MADEbySOUL Před 7 lety

    Trany Dany "Choo Choo" THAT IS ADORABLE! I know it was supposed to be an insult but Dany wore a conductor's cap.

  • @laraaaa55
    @laraaaa55 Před 8 lety

    They're all so beautiful oh my God it's amazing and I'm so glad that there is so much love in the comments they deserve all the love in the world

  • @susanacarolinaarenascorrea7920

    Hello @Allure I would like to see this video available in spanish, would it be ok for you if I created subtitles for it?, or maybe you could activate community translation :)

  • @phoebedickinson438
    @phoebedickinson438 Před 3 lety +1

    The person with long hair her outfit is so good I love it where can I get it

  • @aclementine9928
    @aclementine9928 Před 8 lety +1

    wow she looks incredible in that white dress :o

  • @jgr_lilli_
    @jgr_lilli_ Před 7 lety

    Maria José is so stunning. I am so in love with them (her?). Everything about her looks so good! Damn!

  • @KweenCrusha
    @KweenCrusha Před 7 lety +1

    Kate Bornstein is fucking excellent. Thank god for voices like Kates!

  • @alextillett367
    @alextillett367 Před 8 lety +1

    Maria Jose had me cracking up

  • @isabellemiller1834
    @isabellemiller1834 Před 7 lety +1

    "This is not freedom, but a question of how to work the trap one is inevitably in."

  • @Lena-zv7gp
    @Lena-zv7gp Před 8 lety +1

    i love this!

  • @renatarfrazatto1400
    @renatarfrazatto1400 Před 8 lety +1

    I loved this

  • @patches_kitty
    @patches_kitty Před 7 lety

    Have a BALL! lol I love it!

  • @mlmills7873
    @mlmills7873 Před 7 lety

    lovelovelove this

  • @selenakemp6923
    @selenakemp6923 Před 7 lety +1

    The person with the dope glasses sounds exactly like me

  • @victoriawestfall4281
    @victoriawestfall4281 Před 8 lety +1

    Amazing ❤️✨

  • @valkuromi
    @valkuromi Před 7 lety

    That Death tattoo from the sandman comic book series though

  • @chevvy427
    @chevvy427 Před 7 lety +1

    They are all so beautiful. Really beautiful

  • @basmaabid1736
    @basmaabid1736 Před 7 lety

    Love love love

  • @corinne7048
    @corinne7048 Před 5 lety

    i love this so much

  • @samv3244
    @samv3244 Před 8 lety +1

    Love this ❤️

  • @TrasselJoojon
    @TrasselJoojon Před 7 lety

    I just can't take my eyes off them, they're soooooo good looking 💕

  • @mcgillgurl369
    @mcgillgurl369 Před 8 lety

    "yes, choo choo, all aboard" lol

  • @veejhonz1209
    @veejhonz1209 Před 5 lety

    they are all stunning inside and out. Wouldn't it be nice if we just all identified as a person that loves people.

  • @KJHurrison
    @KJHurrison Před 7 lety

    LOVE THIS!

  • @claraz5235
    @claraz5235 Před 8 lety +1

    I love this. We need this. Well all need to love, we all love the same way. Why does it matter?

  • @jadaevans18
    @jadaevans18 Před 8 lety +1

    I love this video so much 🌹

  • @ThinWhiteAxe
    @ThinWhiteAxe Před 5 lety +1

    'I don't believe I'm a woman, never really made it as one. But I like looking like one, that's fun for me.'
    I kinda feel the same about looking like a boy. I like being cute boy.