I got into UL backpacking only a couple years ago and in that process I've watched probably a hundred "BUDGET UL GEAR LIST" videos. This is probably one of the best lists I've seen. A lot of the pieces (pack, stove, headlamp) are "legit" UL gear pieces that experienced backpackers actually include in their kit. The rest are actually good, quality pieces of gear, no "walmart gear" like you'll find in a lot of other budget lists. If I had a friend interested in UL backpacking, I'd probably tell them to copy this exact loadout.
Yes, this is a really great packlist and relative cheap... many, even most, of the budget ultralight loadouts are for half the price or even less, so going a bit up in price is also going up in quality! Buy once, cry once, but with this list, the crying is short lived.
I've used a Klymit Static V pad for years. Love it! I supplement with a closed cell foam pad that I've cut down to just my torso length (one of the old army-issue pads). Provides added warmth and protection for the Klymit pad. BTW, if that Klymit pad EVER gets a leak in it, send it back and they'll replace it, no questions asked.
A good alternative for a lightweight pack is the REI Flash 55, I’ve used mine for a while. It weighs under 40 ounces, and costs $200. It sometimes goes on sale, and I think later this month REI has a 20% off coupon. It has a well padded hip belt, and it is fully framed with a roll top closure. Overall, a light pack with nice features!
I’m amazed people still miss this one backpack. The Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight. It’s a framed pack in a 45 L and 60 L version. Both weigh under 2 lbs. the 45 L is $200 and the 60L is $215. Hard to beat.
I watched this video a year or more ago, because I am interested in backpacking, and this was such a great overview of how to get into it in an affordable way! Really well done video. I came back to this video today because I want to buy a cheap rain suit to wear when my kids play in the rain and I knew I remembered you had a cheap but durable enough option. Thanks!!
I’ve watched a good bit of these videos but I don’t really understand how ultralight works. You mentioned first-aid and a knife, but do we not include fuel canisters into the weight? Food? Eating utensils? Battery banks? Stuff sacks? Water bottles? The water itself? Spare clothes? At least some socks? The list is endless of the things I see omitted on the pack weight. Especially the dudes with a 6lb “total” weight and 55lb of camera equipment lol.
I am quite surprised that almost none of the non-European hikers talks about Montane Trailblazer. It is a great, simple, ultralight, framed backpack with 44 litres capacity, weight of 960 grams and amazing vest straps system. For me the most comfortable backpack of this size. The only disadvantage it has are the side pockets which don't perform the best for water bottles. Otherwise I am a big fan of this pack. :) And by the way, it only costs around 100 Euros.
Good call on the Lanshan Pro 1. Love mine. As for a pack, the Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight is 2lbs and just at $200. Actually, a lot of their gear is great, and half the price of the major names. Most my gear is Outdoor Vitals. Base weight is 11-13lbs depending on weather.
I've seen far too many negative outcomes for anything but very fair weather camping with the Lanshan tents. IMO for the very minor delta you could get a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo or for even cheaper you could get a Six Moon Designs Skyscape Scout (with the Trekker model being a more expensive option. The Solo and Trekker are FAR more weatherproof, made of better materials, pack smaller, all while giving your money to a company who does NOT supporting a Chinese company/slave labor.
@@BeegEazy Manufacturing is in China (now; used to be in the US but lack of qualified/competent seam shops were cited) but is indeed a US owned company unlike Lanshan, etc. which have stolen many designs from US/UK/etc companies.
I just came across your channel and I wanted to say that I'm really enjoying your videos. You and your content come off as genuine and I don't feel like there is some agenda being pushed. Your trip videos are refreshing and enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to more trip videos and gear advise.
Thanks! I’m glad you are here and enjoying the content. My only agenda is to make the best backpacking videos I can do I’m glad to hear good feedback like this. Thanks for watching.
Some options: Lanshan 2 (3 season - 4 season is available at the same price as the single skin Pro and virtually identical). Cheaper (US$158), double skin and comes seam sealed. Great tent ! Naturehike FC10 pad is excellent, 570g and US$65 (I have the Trekology Pad in Europe - I slept on it in a friend's lounge for 9 months when marooned in Vienna and was unable to get back to my residence in Shanghai - first one leaked, second one was great ... as was the customer service). I prefer the Naturehike though. Also from Naturehike the semi-inflatable pillow is 320g and US$55 but it is far far far better than any of the many inflatables I've ever owned. Super comfortable.
A great alternative to the feather stone moondance is the Outdoor Vitals storm loft 30° quilt - at about 225 after tax without any coupons and weighs 18 oz
Very good recommendations. There are 2 packs that I considered which were the Flash 55 and the Granite Gear Crown 2 60 L. I ultimately went with the Crown 2. I got the Aegis Max Black Long 45 Degree Sleeping Bag. The Lanshan 2 was my choice for the shelter.
I also went with the Crown2. Still waiting on it to arrive though... Shipping to Europe isn't easy. Also considered the Nature Hike Rock 60 but that one doesn't come in different sizes and only tend to fit torso's at the longer end of the spectrum...
Cascade Mountain Tech poles are a huge bang for the buck. Aluminum option for under $25 and carbon fiber for under $60. They sell parts to fix or maintain basically every component and they seem really solidly made so far. I even just got the aluminum ones for my 7 year old and they're easy enough to figure out for her. They're sturdy enough for a 230 lb adult (me) for all the usual ups and downs for semi-mountainous hiking, including hopping ruts, staying stable on a thick branch over deep mud, and dealing with sudden areas of loose soil.
I actually really the granite gear crown 2 for a budget friendly option. However ive never use the minimalist though. Great video! I love GGG. Great place
Dan Durston sells a 40L backpack that is just under 2lbs, with a frame. It was $120 when the stock ran out late last year, and they are expecting more stock soon. I don’t own one, but it gets pretty positive reviews. I have a Durston tent, and I really like it.
I have a 1970s H Frame backpack in nylon with paracord ties that weighs 500g. Brilliant bit of kit and so retro. Gets lots of comments on the trail. I have a Teton Fox5200, great pack but 2kg heavier. Got a huge weight cut on my base load in one fell swoop! Best of all, the backpack was a gift from an old bloke who used it on the Hippy Trail from London to Australia via Afghanistan in 1972!
Great stuff! I think it's wise to start cheaper, so once you use it for a while, you'll have a better idea of what to look for when you can afford to upgrade. I'm moving from car camping to backpacking...I need to replace everything. My husband would kill me if I spent $700 on an Ultralight tent. Love your advice; thank you for sharing with us.
If you have a good outfitter you can rent stuff from, it’s amazing. Sometimes you just don’t know what you’ll love or hate until you try it. So even if you “waste” money renting a couple times, saving the purchase you regret adds up fast.
Good things for me to check out. The one that's a no way for me (and I already own it) is the V-static pad. I will happily carry more and pay more for a better night's sleep.
That's some good gear, I'm especially happy to see @sixmoondesigns on the list and that packs is a good transition into UL without losing the frame. And I like that SMD is local in Portland, Oregon, just like CNOC. I do think the 36-degree comfort on the quilt is a little too high for summer nights in the Oregon and Washington Cascades, but maybe just wear everything under the quilt on a cold night.
The Paria Theromodown 15F quilt would probbably be a better choice in the PNW. And its cheaper at $165 or so; they also have the welcome10 coupon code to save 10%.
@@lakorai2 If you can get them in stock they are great quilts. Took me four months to catch them in stock but didn't pass up the opportunity and love it now for quite some time of use.
For many people $850 IS A LOT OF $. Especially for new backpackers. It costs hundreds of $ to reduce from 12 to 9 pounds. REI Flash 45 fits my 18.5 inch torso. Best pack I've ever used in 50 years or hiking. Carried 25# on Bright Angel. Tent is Northface O2. Discontinued. 2.3# and plenty of room for one person under 6' tall. I make sleeping bags from a down throw. Use Climashield on the bottom. Zipper on top, center. With hood weighs about 28 ounces. Costs about $75. Good to 45F. Tom Loves DIY for videos.
Great ideas! Like others, folks should look at Outdoor Vitals and Dan Durston. Durston’s tents are more than the Lanshan and hard to come by, but worth every penny. Outdoor Vitals has excellent quilts at great prices.
Another vote for the Granite Gear Crown 2 backpack. Been using it for years, still my go to. It's better then packs twice its price. Keep an eye out for sales and promos on their website.
When it comes to a backpack I really would rather get something durable so my choice would be the Osprey Exos 58. You really can't beat their warranty and it's not that much heavier. And it's priced similarly.
I highly suggest checking out the REI Flash 55 pack! It is only $200, but you can find it on sale often apparently. I just got mine for only $140! At just over 2.5 lbs (has a removable brain and hip belt pockets if you want to go even lighter), it is a framed pack and the features are great, especially the water bottle holders! So easy to reach your water with your pack on. I like it 10x more than my Osprey Atmos AG50! Edit: I just wanted to add that the trekking pole storage system isn’t great, but I made my own stow on the go system, like on Osprey packs, very easily and it works flawlessly! Quick video on my channel 🤙🏼
I also love this pack. Recently I discovered Essentia water and have replaced my smartwater bottles with Essentia water bottles because they are better proportioned to fit in the Flash pockets - the 1L bottles are lower and wider so they tuck in better and don't stick up as far. I recommend checking them out. They seem custom made just to fit the Flash pockets perfectly
@@helpfulcommenter Glad I’m not the only one! Lol I also think the Essentia bottles are perfect. Smart water bottles still work fine, but the shorter/fatter Essentia bottles fit much more snug for sure.
Traded in an overweight Gregory baltoro that kept cutting off circulation to arms for flash 55. Couldn't be happier with it and I got it on sale for 140-160?
This might be the best video on CZcams. If you require a pillow, Klymit X is only good if you lay on your back and don't toss and turn. I got the trekology aluft 2.0 and it's amazing for people that can't stay still.
@@derekhand7904 That was one of my thoughts as well. Upgrade that pad. But everything else was pretty solid. Could also save some weight on the tent if you get the Gossamer Gear The One (only 17.7 ounces, but only $300!).
@@wolfeadventures Ya, I've found I really like a thicker pad. Current favorite (also budget) is the Trekology UL80. 4 inches thick, 75 inches long, and 23 inches wide. Just used it for a 100 mile trip in the Uintas and it was awesome!
My friend has the Outdoor Vitals Shadow Light 45L backpack that as I write this is listed for 199.97. It weighs 1 lb 14.5 oz. The 60 L version is currently listed at 214.97 and weighs 1 lb 15.5 oz. I have to say that the Shadow Light looks to be extremely well engineered and very well made. It gets excellent reviews as well which makes it a very viable option for anyone wanting a high quality backpack at a very reasonable cost.
I agree. Outdoor Vitals looks like they have good quality stuff for a reasonable price...except the Ventus hoodie. $175 is steep for a hoodie. But I am going to get the DragonWool hoodie just because the name is awesome...well not just because but I want it!
Great video! I just happened to refresh my YT page at the perfect time as this was posted! What about the Flash 55 Pack by REI for a light pack? I believe it's just over 2 1/2 lbs and is $200...but with REI's frequent sales, it's often less.
I've been looking for rain gear to keep in my car that doesn't take up too much space and isn't too expensive. I think this recommended rain jacket will do for that. Looks like they've doubled in price since this video was published. Though you can get the same jacket with matching pants for about $5 more.
Another lightweight vote is the just under 2 lbs 3F UL gear 40 liter pack from aliexpress .Immensely comfortable and expandable to 56 liter. Create a frame with yoursleep pad. For $65 delivered this has turned into a top favorite not because of the absurdly low price but the sheer comfort and performance.
If you have a large torso length, and if Amazon has them the Naturehike 60L Internal Frame Hiking Backpack cost like $80 and I've had no problems with mine
You can get a River Country Tent 2 person or a 1 person for under a hundred dollars with similar weight. You can get a similar sleeping bag from Paria but much cheaper. If you want a light weight backpack Palante for 210.00 dollars or you could try and pack it in a Kelty Outskirt or Asher 35 for under a hundred bucks.
$850. is still a lot of money and can make backpacking inaccessible to many. I started backpacking when I was 11 because of the Sierra Club’s Innercity Outings. The provided basic gear that was donated by North Face, Kelty, and Vasque.
I don't do ultralight but I do watch my weights. I use a Klymit motion 60. Weighs in at 1.2 kg. Very comfortable pack and can be had for under 100 bucks if you shop around.
Agree with mosy things on this list except the Kkymit pads. Klymit lies about their R values and the V shaped grooves have zero R value. Combined with that quilt there ia zero insulation within the V shaped grooves. Klymit advertises that sleeping bags can "fill in" the insulation on the V shaped grooves but this does not have any science to back that heavilly compressed down will keep you warm. The Paria ReCharge XL and UL are better choices in this regard as is the Big Agnes Air Core Insulated pads. I might alao recommend the LanShan 1p or 2p, or even better, the Paria Arches 1p or 2p instead of the pro for beginners. These come seam sealed and are double walled. The Paria version of the LanShan has a lifetime warranty and is supported by a US based company. If the X-Mid 1p had wide availability then it would be hands down the winner for a budget backpacker. Way better quality thsn the LanShan. Another alternative for packs would be the Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor series. This is a framed pack designed by Andrew Skurka and weighs well under 3lbs. For quilts the Paria Thermodown 15 and 30F should be considered as well. At the higher end of the spectrum the Hammock Gear Econ Borrow ia incredible and they do 15% off coupons all the time.
Thats a great load out. I'd probably bone out for a warmer quilt but that is a solid kit for sure. Add in a pound of diddy stuff and you're still under 10. Then blow the whole thing up with big cameras, wet wipes, battery chargers, phones and 10lbs of beagles, cream cheese and that coffee press you can't live without. Boom back up to 40....can't wait, backpacking is around the corner....as soon as I get my spring chores done. PS. please please please review the 700.00 (not a typo) pack from Osprey ...a whole two years in development to see how many zippers, straps and buckles can be used on a single pack...it has a highly innovative clamshell opening on the front (in lieu of that useless stretchy pocket)...now you can easily unzip the WHOLE front of your pack....to reveal the side of your trash compactor bag, which last I checked still has a top opening. The best comment I read Osprey : here's our new flagship pack two years in the making Still Osprey: It'll cost 725.00 China: Hold my beer Still China 2 weeks later: that'll be 39.95
You crack me up. Osprey agreed to send me a loaner $700 pack for my trip with Dan but it couldn’t arrive in time. Otherwise I would have checked it out to see what the fuss is about
@@MyLifeOutdoors I knew you'd be first on the list! I'm just blown away by the arrogance of Osprey to put that out at that price with nothing really new or pricey like dyneema....they seem to have just gone the heavy route. I can't wait for the review if you get a chance. Have a great day.
Nice Review. I think a better option from 3FUL would be the standard Lanshan 1 which comes seam sealed and is within an ounce of weight of the pro for $32 less. Also A US made UP insulated topquilt from Cedar Ridge (presently 15% off) comfort rated to 40F at 22.5 oz and $123. The next model up conservatively rated to 30F is only 2oz and $10 more. Lastly It's not accurate to spec an uninsulated pad with a 30-40 deg quilt. I would look at the Klymit insulated Static V at 24 oz and $72 after a frequent 20% discount. Total weight with your presented choices is about 8 - 10 oz lighter overall, but at the cost difference of $63 - $73. Eliminating a non-insulated pad as an option the new setup is $74 - $84 dollars cheaper and within 1-3 oz weight difference and provides higher quality more weatherproof gear.
The fabric on the regular lanshan is far less superior to the pro. It's double sided silicone which brings its strength wayyyy up over the regular, even though there's only 5d difference between them. The regular is PU-sil which allows them to seal the seams with tape at the factory, but reduces year strength significantly
What's the base weight of this?. I'm shooting for under 10 to 8 I use a one Tigris tactical backpack it weighs 2 pounds but I took the cuben fibre poles in frane and got it under 2 pounds it's an awesome it is 35 liter but can be more like forty liters Itvswallows up gear well I use a thermarest full length foam pad which I can put between the pack and my back although I usually try to get it in my pack. This sorta acts like a frame. I used to use a 30 liter sea to summit stuff sack for waterproofing but I came across a couple massive garbage compactor bags. I am trying to use less stuff sacs. And have only one of each thing that can be difficult because I'm a bit of a buscrafter and survivalist mentality person extra fire capability back up shelter and knives extra cordage other cutting implements that can weigh a lot plus what I cary on my person I carry a cheap metal water bottle which Is very light jacket as a backup for boiling water. Plus when I have ice water it is phenomenal and I keep it in a camelback tactical water container which can keep it cold for like 12 hours and slows any leaks the MOLLE water bottle pouch can be worn in a belt I alo have cordage connected to carry it and I transfer between a sub nero dynema bag one of my more expensive prices of gear z packs 30 liter at 9 0z for a less robust EDC bag that can stay in my kit centralized I also like to keep modular so I can swap out gear as stand alone if need be. One of my favorite peuced of gear minus the condensation is the six moons designs Gatewood cape and serenity net tent both Erich together about 22 oz but I've swapped out some cords and made mods that can bring heavier weight I carry a tarp or poncho on my person at all times it's like a philosophy of never being homeless. I love wearable gear and I dress in roll up long sleeve button up and pants a bandana custom embroidered and buffs at all times I know I probably look odd but to me it's a blend of three to four season wear clothing that can be buttoned up to look nicer and is my work clothes lol. My sleeping system Is a sol bivvy tyvek 8 onces paired with a sea to summit liner and the reflective abilities and breathability is awesome I also have a ranger roll bedroll which is for fridgid days but I don't always carry it it is quite heavy but it has a poncho and woobie liner which are classics in my book. I have a dedicated water bottle with a filter I believe it's Sawyer and a few tablets just in case so and with a bandana that gives me three ways to procure water well actually four if I use a poncho as a rain cache. Currently have a paracord knife bracelet instead of a heavier knife flint and litter. I just bought a titanium folding stove mostly for emergency heat but I want a titanium water bottle and cook cup you didn't mention as much about disposable ie food feul Medici. I take medicine I use treking poles one for so many things I actually am designing some gear as well. I know I'm rambling but this is exciting to me. Please know that I am not Bragging at all I love to share. And an open to suggestions and ideas. There is an alure to minimalist gear. As well. My pack with a water and a little food is about forteen 1bs closer to fifteen but that's with my treking poles and bear spray in it and a do you consider your basewieght mostly your big three or other smaller things beside expendable items? also have you ever tried the Gatewood cape or the zelter shelter I love them both. If so what are your thoughts on them? I did hit the bell so I can get updated from you because I have severe depression and your videos on budget gear shorts encouraged and inspired me thank you. I also really like tutorial type of videos skill type of stuff if your up to putting more if that on or trail etiquette etcetera. Thank you man this was a great way to start my day
Spot on. I was thinking the same thing. I have owned dependable cars that cost less. My €300 kit may not be "high quality " but it is functional, have used most of it 30+ times.
I like all your choices but the Frog Toggs. Mine gave out on the first use. At the end of a one hour use my back was drenched. When I took it off I examined it to find hundreds of pin sized holes? No idea how that happened😮…
Granite Gear Crown 2 38 is a good lightweight, cheapish framed backpack.(also, even though it says 38, it's not 38L, with the brain and belt pockets fits more gear than some 45L packs I have owned, but I don't use the brain).
I love the Atom packs RE30 408g $193.46 back pack light cottage industry made brilliant I went for the Lanshan 2 Pro brilliant for the weight and size I love my NU25 brilliant … Frog togs jacket too amazing All the above used on the West Highland Way in Scotland 🏴 😊
I'd love it if you checked out and review Paria Outdoors Shelters and Sleep Systems. They seem to have a lot to offer at really good prices. Also, no one seems to be really reviewing their stuff.
40L pack is crazy small, sure if you are a tiny person like you it can work, but for those of us over 6 feet tall and larger, it can't hold enough for a 3 day hike much less a week or thru.
Hey you can get started much cheaper than this. I recommend the quality and know how of the OGs via second hand gear. And the ali express option has done me well. If you do some learning and looking around you can get better comfort and protection with lower weight for hundreds less. I like all the gear here, but for low cost of entry I didn't prefer your suggestions until the brs stove. I watched vids like this in 2016, made a list and then started collecting gear to get started. Then I saw what people were using out and about.
A very realistic ultralight affordable setup, but I'm curious as to why you didn't suggest a Chinese pack to go with the tent. Plenty of great quality Chinese packs, well under a hundred dollars and weighing under 2 pounds
Thanks! Mainly because I was aware of and comfortable recommending the Lanshan. Im not familiar enough with a similar pack to recommend it on this list. If you have some you would like to recommend I’m interested in checking them out.
453 grams for the Forclaz trek100? Decathlon website states 290g, and other reviewers states similar weight. However yours is the first orange color that I see. I was wondering if there is a difference in weight within the colors available. Maybe there they are different materials?
Overall this is a solid list. Coupons that are stable are probably OK, but still feel a little #cheatcode. There were some missing items that were mentioned (or implied), but not in the cost or weight. So, add: Trekking Poles for the tent These can be considered "consumables" - but you still gotta have them in the budget and in the pack! Seam seal kit for the tent Lighter for the stove Fuel canister Smart Water bottle(s) There were some missing items that were not mentioned, but should be for n00bs: Eating utensil of some sort Food sack or bear canister (as appropriate) Trowel
Agreed, this loadout really isn't complete so I think the video is just a little misleading. The weight and cost will definitely increase when you finish the loadout.
The HG Econ burrow has been the long-standing champ for a cheap UL quilts. Is there any reason you suggest the featherstone instead? Not to say that it’s not a great quilt too, but the HG is well tested, warmer for the price, and lighter. Might be another good option to look into. Great video as always!
I'm guessing cheap is a relative term when it comes to ultralight and 12 bucks is not an oh I can afford to throw this away that's a jacket to keep I take care of my used $5 jackets from the Goodwill
If you can make your gear yourself, ultralight is super cheap. Your paying a premium for someone else’s skills and labor, and convenience. You don’t really need a store. Just need to know where to get materials. It’s not like you can’t learn to make the stuff.
GEAR FROM THIS VIDEO:
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Lanshan 1 Pro: geni.us/i6ps
Moondance 25 Quilt: geni.us/5g8LFw
Static V Sleep Pad: geni.us/ONPs
BRS 3000T Stove: geni.us/wPgXB
Toaks 550ML Pot: geni.us/mQNOH
Toaks 650ML Pot: geni.us/yMC4t
Quickdraw Water Filter: geni.us/0CABg1c
Decathlon Puffy: geni.us/pRCxH0
Nitecore NU25 Headlamp: geni.us/3ThMg
Frogg Toggs Rain Jacket: geni.us/gZa8kI
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I got into UL backpacking only a couple years ago and in that process I've watched probably a hundred "BUDGET UL GEAR LIST" videos. This is probably one of the best lists I've seen. A lot of the pieces (pack, stove, headlamp) are "legit" UL gear pieces that experienced backpackers actually include in their kit. The rest are actually good, quality pieces of gear, no "walmart gear" like you'll find in a lot of other budget lists. If I had a friend interested in UL backpacking, I'd probably tell them to copy this exact loadout.
That’s a great comment! Thanks
Same with me I just posted this in my backpackong fb group for the newcomers. Great advice!
Yes, this is a really great packlist and relative cheap... many, even most, of the budget ultralight loadouts are for half the price or even less, so going a bit up in price is also going up in quality!
Buy once, cry once, but with this list, the crying is short lived.
I've used a Klymit Static V pad for years. Love it! I supplement with a closed cell foam pad that I've cut down to just my torso length (one of the old army-issue pads). Provides added warmth and protection for the Klymit pad. BTW, if that Klymit pad EVER gets a leak in it, send it back and they'll replace it, no questions asked.
Outdoor Vitals - SHADOWLIGHT ULTRALIGHT BACKPACK $200 and 45l
They also have a sub 2lb 60L version for just over $200
A good alternative for a lightweight pack is the REI Flash 55, I’ve used mine for a while. It weighs under 40 ounces, and costs $200. It sometimes goes on sale, and I think later this month REI has a 20% off coupon. It has a well padded hip belt, and it is fully framed with a roll top closure. Overall, a light pack with nice features!
Yep it's a great pack I'm taking it on the PCT this year
@@helpfulcommenter me too! I'm starting SOBO in early July.
@@nessiehikes Whoa awesome! Maybe we'll cross paths, two Flashes passing by in a Flash
Great pack! Loving mine
@@helpfulcommenter hey. Did you hike it?
I’m amazed people still miss this one backpack. The Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight. It’s a framed pack in a 45 L and 60 L version. Both weigh under 2 lbs. the 45 L is $200 and the 60L is $215. Hard to beat.
Same with the Gregory Optic which can be found on sale on a regular basis. Not considered ultralight but just over 2 lbs for a 58L it's hard to beat
Great tips. Good to see you mentioning Decathlon's gear. It's great value for money, but not at the expense of quality.
I watched this video a year or more ago, because I am interested in backpacking, and this was such a great overview of how to get into it in an affordable way! Really well done video.
I came back to this video today because I want to buy a cheap rain suit to wear when my kids play in the rain and I knew I remembered you had a cheap but durable enough option. Thanks!!
It's a really great load out, this will be great for a new beginner, but also, it can be used by seasoned hikers on a long thru-hike.
Solid breakdown. I definitely appreciate alternatives to the big big brands.
I’ve watched a good bit of these videos but I don’t really understand how ultralight works. You mentioned first-aid and a knife, but do we not include fuel canisters into the weight? Food? Eating utensils? Battery banks? Stuff sacks? Water bottles? The water itself? Spare clothes? At least some socks? The list is endless of the things I see omitted on the pack weight. Especially the dudes with a 6lb “total” weight and 55lb of camera equipment lol.
I am quite surprised that almost none of the non-European hikers talks about Montane Trailblazer. It is a great, simple, ultralight, framed backpack with 44 litres capacity, weight of 960 grams and amazing vest straps system. For me the most comfortable backpack of this size. The only disadvantage it has are the side pockets which don't perform the best for water bottles. Otherwise I am a big fan of this pack. :) And by the way, it only costs around 100 Euros.
I have this pack too!! It’s so comfy and weighs only slightly more than a pack like Atom Pack Mo
Good call on the Lanshan Pro 1. Love mine. As for a pack, the Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight is 2lbs and just at $200. Actually, a lot of their gear is great, and half the price of the major names. Most my gear is Outdoor Vitals. Base weight is 11-13lbs depending on weather.
I've seen far too many negative outcomes for anything but very fair weather camping with the Lanshan tents. IMO for the very minor delta you could get a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo or for even cheaper you could get a Six Moon Designs Skyscape Scout (with the Trekker model being a more expensive option. The Solo and Trekker are FAR more weatherproof, made of better materials, pack smaller, all while giving your money to a company who does NOT supporting a Chinese company/slave labor.
@@dangerpudge1922 Hate to burst your bubble but Six Moon Designs' stuff is manufactured in China
@@BeegEazy Manufacturing is in China (now; used to be in the US but lack of qualified/competent seam shops were cited) but is indeed a US owned company unlike Lanshan, etc. which have stolen many designs from US/UK/etc companies.
I just came across your channel and I wanted to say that I'm really enjoying your videos. You and your content come off as genuine and I don't feel like there is some agenda being pushed. Your trip videos are refreshing and enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to more trip videos and gear advise.
Thanks! I’m glad you are here and enjoying the content. My only agenda is to make the best backpacking videos I can do I’m glad to hear good feedback like this. Thanks for watching.
@@MyLifeOutdoors Yea absolutely, see you in the next one!
Some options:
Lanshan 2 (3 season - 4 season is available at the same price as the single skin Pro and virtually identical). Cheaper (US$158), double skin and comes seam sealed. Great tent !
Naturehike FC10 pad is excellent, 570g and US$65 (I have the Trekology Pad in Europe - I slept on it in a friend's lounge for 9 months when marooned in Vienna and was unable to get back to my residence in Shanghai - first one leaked, second one was great ... as was the customer service). I prefer the Naturehike though.
Also from Naturehike the semi-inflatable pillow is 320g and US$55 but it is far far far better than any of the many inflatables I've ever owned. Super comfortable.
I like the snow peak 1400 I can all most do everything with that kit.
A great alternative to the feather stone moondance is the Outdoor Vitals storm loft 30° quilt - at about 225 after tax without any coupons and weighs 18 oz
I got a 15° Hammock Gear Eco Burrow which can be customized a bit for $216
Or the Paria Thermodown 30F quilt. $165.
Very good recommendations. There are 2 packs that I considered which were the Flash 55 and the Granite Gear Crown 2 60 L. I ultimately went with the Crown 2. I got the Aegis Max Black Long 45 Degree Sleeping Bag. The Lanshan 2 was my choice for the shelter.
I love my Flash 55
Flash 55 is an excellent deal, I love mine
I use my Aegis Max for 3 seasons and love it! Can't beat the size, weight, and cost. Great suggestion.
Crown 2 awesome
I also went with the Crown2. Still waiting on it to arrive though... Shipping to Europe isn't easy. Also considered the Nature Hike Rock 60 but that one doesn't come in different sizes and only tend to fit torso's at the longer end of the spectrum...
Cascade Mountain Tech poles are a huge bang for the buck. Aluminum option for under $25 and carbon fiber for under $60. They sell parts to fix or maintain basically every component and they seem really solidly made so far. I even just got the aluminum ones for my 7 year old and they're easy enough to figure out for her. They're sturdy enough for a 230 lb adult (me) for all the usual ups and downs for semi-mountainous hiking, including hopping ruts, staying stable on a thick branch over deep mud, and dealing with sudden areas of loose soil.
Naturehike ultralight framed pack, $70. 45 and 65L. It's excellent for the money.
I used Paria's Arches 2p which is "lanshan" like and it was seam sealed and like $150.
I actually really the granite gear crown 2 for a budget friendly option. However ive never use the minimalist though. Great video! I love GGG. Great place
Dan Durston sells a 40L backpack that is just under 2lbs, with a frame. It was $120 when the stock ran out late last year, and they are expecting more stock soon.
I don’t own one, but it gets pretty positive reviews. I have a Durston tent, and I really like it.
Dan Durston does great gear... If you can get it.
A pack I suggest you have a look at is the Montane trailblazer 44.
I have a 1970s H Frame backpack in nylon with paracord ties that weighs 500g. Brilliant bit of kit and so retro. Gets lots of comments on the trail. I have a Teton Fox5200, great pack but 2kg heavier. Got a huge weight cut on my base load in one fell swoop! Best of all, the backpack was a gift from an old bloke who used it on the Hippy Trail from London to Australia via Afghanistan in 1972!
Cool !
New Tek can be over rated lol
Great stuff! I think it's wise to start cheaper, so once you use it for a while, you'll have a better idea of what to look for when you can afford to upgrade. I'm moving from car camping to backpacking...I need to replace everything. My husband would kill me if I spent $700 on an Ultralight tent. Love your advice; thank you for sharing with us.
If you have a good outfitter you can rent stuff from, it’s amazing. Sometimes you just don’t know what you’ll love or hate until you try it. So even if you “waste” money renting a couple times, saving the purchase you regret adds up fast.
Tbh use someone else’s gear😂 also let them guide you, dont go out there alone
Good things for me to check out. The one that's a no way for me (and I already own it) is the V-static pad. I will happily carry more and pay more for a better night's sleep.
That's some good gear, I'm especially happy to see @sixmoondesigns on the list and that packs is a good transition into UL without losing the frame. And I like that SMD is local in Portland, Oregon, just like CNOC. I do think the 36-degree comfort on the quilt is a little too high for summer nights in the Oregon and Washington Cascades, but maybe just wear everything under the quilt on a cold night.
The Paria Theromodown 15F quilt would probbably be a better choice in the PNW. And its cheaper at $165 or so; they also have the welcome10 coupon code to save 10%.
@@lakorai2 If you can get them in stock they are great quilts. Took me four months to catch them in stock but didn't pass up the opportunity and love it now for quite some time of use.
For many people $850 IS A LOT OF $. Especially for new backpackers. It costs hundreds of $ to reduce from 12 to 9 pounds.
REI Flash 45 fits my 18.5 inch torso. Best pack I've ever used in 50 years or hiking. Carried 25# on Bright Angel. Tent is Northface O2. Discontinued. 2.3# and plenty of room for one person under 6' tall.
I make sleeping bags from a down throw. Use Climashield on the bottom. Zipper on top, center. With hood weighs about 28 ounces. Costs about $75. Good to 45F. Tom Loves DIY for videos.
Exactly, "cheap" is very subjective in this case.
Great ideas! Like others, folks should look at Outdoor Vitals and Dan
Durston. Durston’s tents are more than the Lanshan and hard to come by, but worth every penny. Outdoor Vitals has excellent quilts at great prices.
Another vote for the Granite Gear Crown 2 backpack. Been using it for years, still my go to. It's better then packs twice its price. Keep an eye out for sales and promos on their website.
Indeed !. Thats a tough little pack lotsa great adventure s w it
Wow, you put so much work into this & it really shows. Thanks for hustling for us all.🙂
I think a better pack is the Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight 60 liter pack that’s just under 2 pounds. 😎. Also, priced at $215.
When it comes to a backpack I really would rather get something durable so my choice would be the Osprey Exos 58. You really can't beat their warranty and it's not that much heavier. And it's priced similarly.
I actually own the Shadowlight and it is quite durable.
I highly suggest checking out the REI Flash 55 pack! It is only $200, but you can find it on sale often apparently. I just got mine for only $140! At just over 2.5 lbs (has a removable brain and hip belt pockets if you want to go even lighter), it is a framed pack and the features are great, especially the water bottle holders! So easy to reach your water with your pack on. I like it 10x more than my Osprey Atmos AG50!
Edit: I just wanted to add that the trekking pole storage system isn’t great, but I made my own stow on the go system, like on Osprey packs, very easily and it works flawlessly! Quick video on my channel 🤙🏼
I second that! That's the pack I have.
Anniversary sale next week!
I also love this pack. Recently I discovered Essentia water and have replaced my smartwater bottles with Essentia water bottles because they are better proportioned to fit in the Flash pockets - the 1L bottles are lower and wider so they tuck in better and don't stick up as far. I recommend checking them out. They seem custom made just to fit the Flash pockets perfectly
@@helpfulcommenter Glad I’m not the only one! Lol I also think the Essentia bottles are perfect. Smart water bottles still work fine, but the shorter/fatter Essentia bottles fit much more snug for sure.
Traded in an overweight Gregory baltoro that kept cutting off circulation to arms for flash 55. Couldn't be happier with it and I got it on sale for 140-160?
This might be the best video on CZcams.
If you require a pillow, Klymit X is only good if you lay on your back and don't toss and turn. I got the trekology aluft 2.0 and it's amazing for people that can't stay still.
Yeah the strap is a nice touch and the soft cover. As a side sleeper it goes well with my exped downmat.
Thanks for the lighter pack I love geeking out on that stuff!🔥🔥🙌🙌
Hey Steven. Great list! Lots of great gear here that I own as well. I'm curious, if you had another $150, what would you spend it on?
For $150 I’d up grade the pad that klymit pad is great in the summer but even there isolated pads are no good if it gets a bit chilly
@@derekhand7904 That was one of my thoughts as well. Upgrade that pad. But everything else was pretty solid. Could also save some weight on the tent if you get the Gossamer Gear The One (only 17.7 ounces, but only $300!).
The pad. Xlite. The klymit is miserable for side sleepers.
@@wolfeadventures Ya, I've found I really like a thicker pad. Current favorite (also budget) is the Trekology UL80. 4 inches thick, 75 inches long, and 23 inches wide. Just used it for a 100 mile trip in the Uintas and it was awesome!
My friend has the Outdoor Vitals Shadow Light 45L backpack that as I write this is listed for 199.97.
It weighs 1 lb 14.5 oz.
The 60 L version is currently listed at 214.97 and weighs 1 lb 15.5 oz.
I have to say that the Shadow Light looks to be extremely well engineered and very well made.
It gets excellent reviews as well which makes it a very viable option for anyone wanting a high quality backpack at a very reasonable cost.
I agree. Outdoor Vitals looks like they have good quality stuff for a reasonable price...except the Ventus hoodie. $175 is steep for a hoodie. But I am going to get the DragonWool hoodie just because the name is awesome...well not just because but I want it!
The Shadowlight is my choice.
@@natehoover5266 there is a reason that the ventus costs that much.
I think its a little steep but its honestly such a good jacket.
I have the Shadowlight backpack and it's a very high quality pack. I also have the Ventus as well as other gear from Outdoor Vitals.
The Ventus is 100% worth the cost. Definitely a 4 season piece of gear.
Great video! I just happened to refresh my YT page at the perfect time as this was posted! What about the Flash 55 Pack by REI for a light pack? I believe it's just over 2 1/2 lbs and is $200...but with REI's frequent sales, it's often less.
I love my Flash 55 it might be the favorite pack I ever had
I've been looking for rain gear to keep in my car that doesn't take up too much space and isn't too expensive. I think this recommended rain jacket will do for that. Looks like they've doubled in price since this video was published. Though you can get the same jacket with matching pants for about $5 more.
Another
lightweight vote is the just under
2 lbs 3F UL gear 40 liter pack from aliexpress .Immensely comfortable and expandable to 56 liter.
Create a frame with yoursleep pad.
For $65 delivered this has
turned into a top favorite not because of the absurdly low price but the sheer comfort and performance.
If you have a large torso length, and if Amazon has them the Naturehike 60L Internal Frame Hiking Backpack cost like $80 and I've had no problems with mine
You can get a River Country Tent 2 person or a 1 person for under a hundred dollars with similar weight. You can get a similar sleeping bag from Paria but much cheaper. If you want a light weight backpack Palante for 210.00 dollars or you could try and pack it in a Kelty Outskirt or Asher 35 for under a hundred bucks.
I would love to see you review The outdoor vitals Shadow light 45/60 liter pack
Backpack - outdoor vitals shadowlight pack weighs less than 2lbs and for the 60 l pack come in at $215
Hey! As a backpack I use a Granite Gear Crown2, it is a "framed" backpack, very versatile under 1kg! And it goes up to 60L
$850. is still a lot of money and can make backpacking inaccessible to many.
I started backpacking when I was 11 because of the Sierra Club’s Innercity Outings. The provided basic gear that was donated by North Face, Kelty, and Vasque.
What you say is true, but $850 is pretty inexpensive for this weight point. You could do a video about free backpacking through the Sierra Club.
I don't do ultralight but I do watch my weights.
I use a Klymit motion 60. Weighs in at 1.2 kg. Very comfortable pack and can be had for under 100 bucks if you shop around.
I would also suggest the hammock gear budget burrow. My favorite piece of gear.
Agree with mosy things on this list except the Kkymit pads. Klymit lies about their R values and the V shaped grooves have zero R value. Combined with that quilt there ia zero insulation within the V shaped grooves. Klymit advertises that sleeping bags can "fill in" the insulation on the V shaped grooves but this does not have any science to back that heavilly compressed down will keep you warm. The Paria ReCharge XL and UL are better choices in this regard as is the Big Agnes Air Core Insulated pads.
I might alao recommend the LanShan 1p or 2p, or even better, the Paria Arches 1p or 2p instead of the pro for beginners. These come seam sealed and are double walled. The Paria version of the LanShan has a lifetime warranty and is supported by a US based company.
If the X-Mid 1p had wide availability then it would be hands down the winner for a budget backpacker. Way better quality thsn the LanShan.
Another alternative for packs would be the Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor series. This is a framed pack designed by Andrew Skurka and weighs well under 3lbs.
For quilts the Paria Thermodown 15 and 30F should be considered as well. At the higher end of the spectrum the Hammock Gear Econ Borrow ia incredible and they do 15% off coupons all the time.
Great post my friend. I appreciate your perspective.
Thats a great load out. I'd probably bone out for a warmer quilt but that is a solid kit for sure. Add in a pound of diddy stuff and you're still under 10. Then blow the whole thing up with big cameras, wet wipes, battery chargers, phones and 10lbs of beagles, cream cheese and that coffee press you can't live without. Boom back up to 40....can't wait, backpacking is around the corner....as soon as I get my spring chores done.
PS. please please please review the 700.00 (not a typo) pack from Osprey ...a whole two years in development to see how many zippers, straps and buckles can be used on a single pack...it has a highly innovative clamshell opening on the front (in lieu of that useless stretchy pocket)...now you can easily unzip the WHOLE front of your pack....to reveal the side of your trash compactor bag, which last I checked still has a top opening. The best comment I read
Osprey : here's our new flagship pack two years in the making
Still Osprey: It'll cost 725.00
China: Hold my beer
Still China 2 weeks later: that'll be 39.95
You crack me up. Osprey agreed to send me a loaner $700 pack for my trip with Dan but it couldn’t arrive in time. Otherwise I would have checked it out to see what the fuss is about
@@MyLifeOutdoors I knew you'd be first on the list! I'm just blown away by the arrogance of Osprey to put that out at that price with nothing really new or pricey like dyneema....they seem to have just gone the heavy route. I can't wait for the review if you get a chance. Have a great day.
$850 for quality safe gear is worth it , especially if it’s a hobby you love
Nice Review. I think a better option from 3FUL would be the standard Lanshan 1 which comes seam sealed and is within an ounce of weight of the pro for $32 less. Also A US made UP insulated topquilt from Cedar Ridge (presently 15% off) comfort rated to 40F at 22.5 oz and $123. The next model up conservatively rated to 30F is only 2oz and $10 more. Lastly It's not accurate to spec an uninsulated pad with a 30-40 deg quilt. I would look at the Klymit insulated Static V at 24 oz and $72 after a frequent 20% discount. Total weight with your presented choices is about 8 - 10 oz lighter overall, but at the cost difference of $63 - $73. Eliminating a non-insulated pad as an option the new setup is $74 - $84 dollars cheaper and within 1-3 oz weight difference and provides higher quality more weatherproof gear.
The fabric on the regular lanshan is far less superior to the pro. It's double sided silicone which brings its strength wayyyy up over the regular, even though there's only 5d difference between them. The regular is PU-sil which allows them to seal the seams with tape at the factory, but reduces year strength significantly
You make great videos. I liked the choices you made. Many of the pieces I have too. Lol Others I will look into. Great tips.
Thank you
The shoes are Danner 2650! Third person I seen with those shoes!
you got deeper pockets than I have
What's the base weight of this?. I'm shooting for under 10 to 8 I use a one Tigris tactical backpack it weighs 2 pounds but I took the cuben fibre poles in frane and got it under 2 pounds it's an awesome it is 35 liter but can be more like forty liters Itvswallows up gear well I use a thermarest full length foam pad which I can put between the pack and my back although I usually try to get it in my pack. This sorta acts like a frame. I used to use a 30 liter sea to summit stuff sack for waterproofing but I came across a couple massive garbage compactor bags. I am trying to use less stuff sacs. And have only one of each thing that can be difficult because I'm a bit of a buscrafter and survivalist mentality person extra fire capability back up shelter and knives extra cordage other cutting implements that can weigh a lot plus what I cary on my person I carry a cheap metal water bottle which Is very light jacket as a backup for boiling water. Plus when I have ice water it is phenomenal and I keep it in a camelback tactical water container which can keep it cold for like 12 hours and slows any leaks the MOLLE water bottle pouch can be worn in a belt I alo have cordage connected to carry it and I transfer between a sub nero dynema bag one of my more expensive prices of gear z packs 30 liter at 9 0z for a less robust EDC bag that can stay in my kit centralized I also like to keep modular so I can swap out gear as stand alone if need be. One of my favorite peuced of gear minus the condensation is the six moons designs Gatewood cape and serenity net tent both Erich together about 22 oz but I've swapped out some cords and made mods that can bring heavier weight I carry a tarp or poncho on my person at all times it's like a philosophy of never being homeless. I love wearable gear and I dress in roll up long sleeve button up and pants a bandana custom embroidered and buffs at all times I know I probably look odd but to me it's a blend of three to four season wear clothing that can be buttoned up to look nicer and is my work clothes lol. My sleeping system Is a sol bivvy tyvek 8 onces paired with a sea to summit liner and the reflective abilities and breathability is awesome I also have a ranger roll bedroll which is for fridgid days but I don't always carry it it is quite heavy but it has a poncho and woobie liner which are classics in my book. I have a dedicated water bottle with a filter I believe it's Sawyer and a few tablets just in case so and with a bandana that gives me three ways to procure water well actually four if I use a poncho as a rain cache. Currently have a paracord knife bracelet instead of a heavier knife flint and litter. I just bought a titanium folding stove mostly for emergency heat but I want a titanium water bottle and cook cup you didn't mention as much about disposable ie food feul Medici. I take medicine I use treking poles one for so many things I actually am designing some gear as well. I know I'm rambling but this is exciting to me. Please know that I am not Bragging at all I love to share. And an open to suggestions and ideas. There is an alure to minimalist gear. As well. My pack with a water and a little food is about forteen 1bs closer to fifteen but that's with my treking poles and bear spray in it and a do you consider your basewieght mostly your big three or other smaller things beside expendable items? also have you ever tried the Gatewood cape or the zelter shelter I love them both. If so what are your thoughts on them? I did hit the bell so I can get updated from you because I have severe depression and your videos on budget gear shorts encouraged and inspired me thank you. I also really like tutorial type of videos skill type of stuff if your up to putting more if that on or trail etiquette etcetera. Thank you man this was a great way to start my day
Another light pack option under 2 pounds $214, is the outdoor vitals shadowlight pack
Thank you! Another great video. 🙂👌👍
As someone who uses milsurplus (European surplus isn't made by lowest bidder). My first kit was like $250. So your loadout is astronomical in price.
Spot on. I was thinking the same thing. I have owned dependable cars that cost less. My €300 kit may not be "high quality " but it is functional, have used most of it 30+ times.
"European surplus isn't made by lowest bidder" it absolutely is lmao.
This just in: heavier gear is cheaper
I like all your choices but the Frog Toggs. Mine gave out on the first use. At the end of a one hour use my back was drenched. When I took it off I examined it to find hundreds of pin sized holes? No idea how that happened😮…
Crushing this! Excellent review
Granite Gear Crown 2 38 is a good lightweight, cheapish framed backpack.(also, even though it says 38, it's not 38L, with the brain and belt pockets fits more gear than some 45L packs I have owned, but I don't use the brain).
Sadly at my size of 7ft it's nearly impossible to find gear this light or at least relative to the gear shown here plus the extra material.
Onetigris makes a great framed pack that weighs 2lbs for $99. Very well made, can't be beat for the money.
Onetigris ul 40 is an amazing pack
I love the Atom packs RE30 408g $193.46 back pack light cottage industry made brilliant
I went for the Lanshan 2 Pro brilliant for the weight and size
I love my NU25 brilliant …
Frog togs jacket too amazing
All the above used on the West Highland Way in Scotland 🏴
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Nice suggestions on utra light gear.
I'd love it if you checked out and review Paria Outdoors Shelters and Sleep Systems. They seem to have a lot to offer at really good prices. Also, no one seems to be really reviewing their stuff.
Outdoor vitals shadowlight pack is a lighter and cheaper option
Montane trailblazer 44, price 80€, weight 940g. Pack of my choice with aluminium frame inside ;)
40L pack is crazy small, sure if you are a tiny person like you it can work, but for those of us over 6 feet tall and larger, it can't hold enough for a 3 day hike much less a week or thru.
Fair point that I’ll try to keep in mind in the future
I am 2m and use 35L pack with no problems.
Dang you busted that vid out
Lub my 6 moons! ❤
I have all my gear & then some…. But I always love you vids….
I would like to point out, this is a summer sleep system. The price/lower weight reflect that.
Hey you can get started much cheaper than this. I recommend the quality and know how of the OGs via second hand gear. And the ali express option has done me well. If you do some learning and looking around you can get better comfort and protection with lower weight for hundreds less. I like all the gear here, but for low cost of entry I didn't prefer your suggestions until the brs stove.
I watched vids like this in 2016, made a list and then started collecting gear to get started. Then I saw what people were using out and about.
Gr8 video, ty
Great video! (content and videography) Now I’m out of excuses for not getting new lighter gear, except for the whole my wife killing me thing.
there's a lot of comments about murderous spouses in this comment section
Informative and beneficial video
A very realistic ultralight affordable setup, but I'm curious as to why you didn't suggest a Chinese pack to go with the tent. Plenty of great quality Chinese packs, well under a hundred dollars and weighing under 2 pounds
Thanks! Mainly because I was aware of and comfortable recommending the Lanshan. Im not familiar enough with a similar pack to recommend it on this list. If you have some you would like to recommend I’m interested in checking them out.
Do I review for your gossamer gear mariposa 60. I've seen you use it in other videos but haven't seen a review
Pariah outdoors arches one person tent. Comes seam sealed
thank you again. realy like the video's
Hello from România, big like !
453 grams for the Forclaz trek100? Decathlon website states 290g, and other reviewers states similar weight. However yours is the first orange color that I see. I was wondering if there is a difference in weight within the colors available. Maybe there they are different materials?
He probably has a different size. If I recall correctly the 290g is for a size large.
You 100% do not need to spend this much money to walk through the woods
Single wall tent, NOOOO
Amazing video 💯🙌🏽 ⛰
Overall this is a solid list. Coupons that are stable are probably OK, but still feel a little #cheatcode. There were some missing items that were mentioned (or implied), but not in the cost or weight. So, add:
Trekking Poles for the tent
These can be considered "consumables" - but you still gotta have them in the budget and in the pack!
Seam seal kit for the tent
Lighter for the stove
Fuel canister
Smart Water bottle(s)
There were some missing items that were not mentioned, but should be for n00bs:
Eating utensil of some sort
Food sack or bear canister (as appropriate)
Trowel
Budget but awesome trekking poles: Cascade Mountain Tech. Amazing deal.
Agreed, this loadout really isn't complete so I think the video is just a little misleading. The weight and cost will definitely increase when you finish the loadout.
The HG Econ burrow has been the long-standing champ for a cheap UL quilts. Is there any reason you suggest the featherstone instead? Not to say that it’s not a great quilt too, but the HG is well tested, warmer for the price, and lighter. Might be another good option to look into. Great video as always!
I'm guessing cheap is a relative term when it comes to ultralight and 12 bucks is not an oh I can afford to throw this away that's a jacket to keep I take care of my used $5 jackets from the Goodwill
I can get you half a pound lighter at 1/4 the cost.
Can you please explain your suggested setup? Thanks in advance!
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So no bear spray either now 😅
ANOTHER TENT NOT ALREADY SEAM SEALED. I swear I cannot win. Thats like buying a car with no wheels. Like wtf are these companies thinking.
Does anyone know where I can get 10% off? It wasn't mentioned 😂😂
Try Garage Grown Gear. They give 10% off your first purchase when you sign up for their email list. 😉
@@MyLifeOutdoors phew thanks! Nearly missed it! 😉😁
If you can make your gear yourself, ultralight is super cheap. Your paying a premium for someone else’s skills and labor, and convenience. You don’t really need a store. Just need to know where to get materials. It’s not like you can’t learn to make the stuff.
It's not "cheap" gear. It's "inexpensive" gear.