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Komentáře • 464

  • @overweighthikerwannabe901
    @overweighthikerwannabe901 Před rokem +639

    When filling a water bottle directly from a stream you should point the opening away from the flow so you don't get as much stuff that isn't water. I suppose you fill the bottle faster pointing it upstream but the current carries everythingbit is carrying into the bottle along with the water.

    • @swisswildpicsswp3095
      @swisswildpicsswp3095 Před rokem +85

      yeah, and use a cloth to filter out twigs, debris and bigger particles. A small piece of cheesecloth or handkerchief weighs nothing and goes a long way.

    • @soothingmeow22
      @soothingmeow22 Před rokem +7

      ​@@swisswildpicsswp3095 I do the same

    • @nevanoconnell3356
      @nevanoconnell3356 Před rokem +21

      Im in a country with very clean streams, NZ, and the tips I heard from the outdoor pros was to find the least flowing spot possible then place it as close to outflowing rapid section as possible, put your water bottle in line with flow of the water. Cause the only major threat is particulate this works very well.

    • @xanderfish1645
      @xanderfish1645 Před 11 měsíci +6

      He also shouldn't be handling the tablets with his bear hands. Cut an x in the packet and pop it right it.

    • @d.Cog420
      @d.Cog420 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@50ccCrazy I dunno, his hands looked a bit beary to me. HIs face was def beary.

  • @paavoviuhko7250
    @paavoviuhko7250 Před rokem +197

    I'm turning 74 this year and do long day hikes to stay in proper shape. Although I live in canoe tripping country I prefer to watch these ultra light hiking videos because I'm concerned with efficiency, though not necessarily at the expense of comfort. At my age I need to avoid being concerned about speed and more about long slow days, whatever it takes to get to my destination, which usually isn't too far away.

    • @jessemeyer3052
      @jessemeyer3052 Před rokem +2

      I also live in canoe country. I'm not an ultralight hiker by any means, but I do find there's an advantage to having everything in one pack.
      But when trips are usually while under a mile with a pack, I'll err on the side of comfort.
      But as long as you aren't in an area that suffered from a forest fire, one lighter weight solution I've found is a hammock instead of a tent. I found it very comfortable as a sleep system.

    • @LordDougall
      @LordDougall Před rokem +1

      respect

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 Před 11 měsíci +4

      👍 .. Yep, after 73 Summers, comfort is now a priority. I have a forest almost on my doorstep with others, including Alpine Areas, an easy commute using the superb Swiss Transport Infrastructure. No need to trek for miles to 'get out there'.

    • @paavoviuhko7250
      @paavoviuhko7250 Před 11 měsíci

      @@thomasmusso1147 Best wishes to you.

    • @teflonsheep6083
      @teflonsheep6083 Před 9 měsíci +1

      This is the right attitude no matter your age👍

  • @cybersecurity_7704
    @cybersecurity_7704 Před rokem +191

    5lb pack but you still carry a pillow, thats quite the luxary

    • @miniveloman3642
      @miniveloman3642 Před rokem +21

      Every ulterlitre deserves a little luxary

    • @dccaps6404
      @dccaps6404 Před rokem +17

      Can't compromise on sleep

    • @cybersecurity_7704
      @cybersecurity_7704 Před rokem +1

      @@miniveloman3642 that's the whole point of UL, to avoid luxuries and stick with the basics

    • @GypsyGirl317
      @GypsyGirl317 Před rokem +14

      @@cybersecurity_7704 everyone, including ultra light backpackers is allowed one luxury... 🤦🏻‍♀️ 🤷🏻‍♀️ 🙄
      It's not deprivation/martyr backpacking, and his total pack weight is still excellent for his preferences.
      Stop judging and just hike your own hike. 🙆🏻‍♀️😅

    • @cybersecurity_7704
      @cybersecurity_7704 Před rokem +5

      @@GypsyGirl317 Im not judging or telling anyone what to do, I'm just poiting out the whole philosphpy of UL is to literally take as little as possible while still being 100% efficient.
      I thought with a 5lb pack he'd have to be brutal but his pack decisions but he seemed somewhat comfortable, good for him

  • @mercedesaponte6201
    @mercedesaponte6201 Před rokem +41

    LOL - I like that you and Stephanie are contemplating getting "older". I'm turning 60 this year and still backpack with some consecutive days of 18 miles. I DO keep my pack as lite as possible. Keep on trekking you two.

  • @theomnipresent1
    @theomnipresent1 Před rokem +123

    The bravest thing here was taking an Uberlite into the desert without a groundsheet!

    • @antonio7334
      @antonio7334 Před rokem +1

      even with just sand?

    • @Gpray75
      @Gpray75 Před rokem +12

      Yup. To put it nicely, it's not a smart decision....at all. lmao

    • @antonio7334
      @antonio7334 Před rokem +2

      @@Gpray75 thats insane, I would expect ANY sleeping pad to be able to handle grass/sand

    • @colinriordan3357
      @colinriordan3357 Před rokem +4

      They shouldn’t be on sale still. The design is clearly faulty because so many of them leak badly, or the baffle seams fail, making them almost impossible to sleep on.

    • @sasquatchrosefarts
      @sasquatchrosefarts Před 11 měsíci +6

      The one day a month it rains in a desert,.it pours, and it's cold......this tent can easily get you killed if there's wind blowing the rain sideways.

  • @Swimdeep
    @Swimdeep Před rokem +12

    If you’re gonna use such a delicate sleep pad, it makes sense to bring a footprint for it. Having to clear debris every camp is a huge pain after a long day. Maybe a piece of tyvek or a diy piece of Cuban fiber.

  • @johnhutchison2268
    @johnhutchison2268 Před rokem +21

    I regularly walk long through hikes. This allows me to walk long distances at 72 years of age. Longer distance per day and more fun in the process. My one luxury is my ZPack Duplex. It is an amazing tent. I am a Scot so I have used the duplex on wet and cold conditions. Set it up properly and it keeps you dry. Plus it does not absorb water which again reduces weight as you walk. Thanks for posting

    • @toocleanpappas5397
      @toocleanpappas5397 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Last year I walked Oban to St Andrews, the Fife Coastal way, and the John Muir way, and yeah, you Scots definitely know about rain! haha I had about a month straight of it! Had a great time in your country!

  • @lynettepeck2752
    @lynettepeck2752 Před rokem +61

    I think a ground sheet and netting for protection from snakes are scorpions is essential. You were very vulnerable in the desert.

    • @ingridlynch2716
      @ingridlynch2716 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How does the ground sheet assist? Genuinely want to know - I’m going wild camping soon & might encounter snakes

  • @CaptainBrash
    @CaptainBrash Před rokem +17

    I think that some of the UL crowd takes things a bit far but there is definitely things we can learn from people who really test the limits. My setup isn't truly ultralight but I think I've done a good job with my budget. Basically for me to save weight now it's a matter of dropping some real money on my tarp, pad, quilt and pack.
    My shelter and sleep is 3.3kg and my pack is 1kg. I did go for a bigger tarp though as I'm 1) new to tarps so a bigger one gives me more margin for learning how to set one up 2) I live in a wet and windy country.

    • @pentachronic
      @pentachronic Před 11 měsíci +4

      My tent is 2.2lbs and I got a 4oz ground sheet. 3 season tent. Seriously why would you allow bugs and scorpions into tour tent in a desert environment ?

  • @cyrilhaessig27
    @cyrilhaessig27 Před rokem +16

    Compromises, personal tolerance, and planning. These are key. This is a really good video and an amazing kit for fair weather with still some allowances for significant variation in temperature between day and night. That quilt looks amazing !

  • @Merlmabase
    @Merlmabase Před rokem +9

    Love me some aquatabs. Bring em on every trip in case the filter fails

  • @ropersix
    @ropersix Před rokem +5

    I've been working on getting my pack weight down, and cringe when I think of how heavy my pack used to be. But then again, I have nothing but fond memories of old trips with a 40lb pack (and big old leather hiking boots). The main thing is to just get out there and do it.

  • @jodigreanead7315
    @jodigreanead7315 Před rokem +6

    Love that you’re pushing the limits and showing us new options. Thank you!

  • @johngiesemann5293
    @johngiesemann5293 Před rokem +13

    Great video. You may have to explore this some more.
    A polycro groundcloth would add 1 ounce and a lot of peace of mind. A head net or bug repellent could add significant comfort/safety for little weight. I like a water filter instead of tablets and you might still sneak in under the 5 lb limit. You might also consider a 20/30D quilt and no down sweater. It would cut down on flexibility, but the alpaca hoodie would probably meet most of your needs.

    • @BradyPatterson
      @BradyPatterson Před rokem

      I was thinking same about groundsheet although I'd opt for tyvek. I use a bandanet for a sleeping head net if it's really bad but I've been a tarp camper for 20+ years and while netting is nice, it's often unnecessary depending on the site chosen.

    • @johngiesemann5293
      @johngiesemann5293 Před rokem

      @@BradyPatterson I use Tyvek myself, but it is significantly heavier than polycro. I was trying to keep him in the extreme ultralight category. Tyvek is practically indestructible, but relatively heavy. In fact, my 4x8 Tyvek sheet weighs more than my 8.5x10 DCF tarp.
      I also seldom need a bug net. But, since he said something about it, I mentioned it. I rarely need bug repellent. I think the Permethrin on my clothes also acts as a repellent.
      I have been a tarp camper exclusively for at least 15 years. Lighest, roomiest method I know and most flexible. Can’t see myself going back to a tent.

    • @BradyPatterson
      @BradyPatterson Před rokem

      @@johngiesemann5293 Sure, but a sheet of Tyvek about the size of his pad isn't going to be 4x8 like yours. I should have been more specific about the size. I was just thinking of protecting the pad only.

    • @tomscott1159
      @tomscott1159 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BradyPatterson The nice thing about polycro: it can be large enough to double under a delicate pad, or wrap over you like a simple bivvy if the rain starts blowing/splashing around the edges of your tarp, all for an ounce or two of weight.

  • @kaitlin5264
    @kaitlin5264 Před rokem +19

    Very interesting! Glad you test the limits for us! I don’t think I could ever go that UL, but we can all learn from these types of videos to see where we can potentially cut weight for future trips!

  • @omglolwots
    @omglolwots Před rokem +5

    I feel like around 10-11 pounds is the sweet spot (for me). I have sleep clothes, extra socks, a pillow, a heavier charger, but the rest of my set up still has lighter gear and is simple even with the few extra "luxuries." I did the PCT last year. I never felt like I needed anything else, nor that I had anything extra. All the gear I had got put to good use, and I was still super comfortable.

  • @barbara-holley
    @barbara-holley Před rokem +8

    million percent agree with fixing the water bottle issue and tbh i'd add a foam pad in case the thermarest popped because i would be to stressed at the thought of it popping and wouldn't get good sleep because of it. can't wait to see more durability testing on it!!

  • @SmolderOutdoors
    @SmolderOutdoors Před rokem +25

    I really agree with a lot of what you said. I’ve never gone SUL but I have taken out a kit with 7-8lb base weights using the same tarp. It’s fine in moderate weather. In rain the bathtub floor addon really helps mitigate some of the wind/splash.
    Thanks for sharing!
    Ps- you’re brave. I’ve never relied on just tablets for water purification. I think the befree is worth the weight 😊

    • @Pneumaticcannon
      @Pneumaticcannon Před rokem +2

      I only just use chlorine tablets. So much easier and faster than a filter. Although I'll prob need to try a different water filter.

  • @LMay64
    @LMay64 Před rokem +1

    Very nice. I think its great to push limits with weight while also being aware of safety (as opposed to comfort). My tarp system is a zpacks 9x7 dcf flat tart and I throw in a 4 ounce borah bivy with a dcf bottom. It adds a bit of protection and warmth while handling backsplash if it rains or sleets. It also keeps the bugs off my face. my uberlite and quilt are both thrown into the bivy, holding the system in place as I sleep. The borah bivy is incredibly breathable on top, creating comfort without condensation. I found a zpacks regular width, short length, 30 degree quilt at just 12 ounces in the zpacks bargain bin about two years ago. It's been wonderful for summer and shoulder season and kept me warm even during freezing rain and snow storms within the tarp/bivy configuration. The great thing about a flat tarp is that you can create different configurations to handle changes in temps or conditions. The rest of my system is similar. I use a p'alante or a Nashville Cutaway, both of which have a bottom stretchy pocket (replacing the hip belt storage) and shoulder strap pockets for my garmin and a water bottle. My cook system is similar. I did just purchase some cool "pill box" stove tabs that absorb alcohol and are not consumed regardless of usage. They are created using the same material as a pizza stone. I hope to test these this summer. I'd say the biggest downside to using a tarp and bivy is that you can't really just "hang out" in a shelter to escape bugs. A tremendous advantage to a tarp, as I discovered on longer thru trails, is that when in a raised mode, it can cover a cooking or social area for a few people to gather in the evening, talking, telling stories, playing dice or card games. Then, it can be lowered or moved to be a comfortable sleep shelter. The versatility is wonderful.

  • @eschurma
    @eschurma Před rokem +38

    If you’ve never tried them, there are several manufacturers of water bottle pockets that attach to the front of the pack straps. Mine weighs like 11g, it keeps the bottle in trivial reach, and it balances out some weight front to back. I love it - also, at 6’2”, none of the pack water bottle pockets work for me (even on the Flash 55).

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 Před rokem +3

      I've always been a fan of military-style webbing belt and braces, the ALICE or PLCE stuff, mainly.
      It adds a bit of weight, but distributes it nicely, meaning you can carry a couple of flasks and put your heavier things into a buttpack or two kidney pouches. Anything you might want quicker access to can go in pouches at the front, and your rucksack can just contain your shelter and spare clothes. Plus you can get sets for not much money, which is great if you're on a bit of a budget.

    • @benkristendotcom
      @benkristendotcom Před 11 měsíci +2

      Just DIY a tiny string with a loop.

  • @miken7629
    @miken7629 Před rokem +3

    My backup water filter is a liner sock over my wide mouth bottle to filter out anything big, then a small dropper bottle containing Clorox (2 drops per quart - 30 minutes to kill bacteria & virus). U could use a coffee filter + rubber band as a pre-filter on that bottle U have.

  • @CAM-hc8ip
    @CAM-hc8ip Před rokem +33

    I think this just goes to show that an extra 1-2 lbs of more functional gear would setup well for a thru-hike as long as you're staying close to a ~10lb pack weight

  • @tylersingleton9284
    @tylersingleton9284 Před 11 měsíci +27

    The desert is about the only place you could get away with such a sleep system. It is also the one place you should NEVER count on finding water to top off.

    • @MrBig913
      @MrBig913 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The desert gets pretty cold at night though, shouldn't risk not bringing warm sleeping gear.

  • @barrymeeks3339
    @barrymeeks3339 Před 10 měsíci

    Love this trail in my home. It was awesome in the early spring this year due to the rains that blessed our land. You were here just before the furnace fired up for the summer. I still hike but usually very early in the morning or night with headlamps.

  • @peterjohnson6273
    @peterjohnson6273 Před rokem +1

    Always like your videos, Justin. Thanks.

  • @jbvertexx
    @jbvertexx Před rokem +2

    Good video. A couple of worthwhile add-ons: Zpacks water bottle shoulder pocket (16g), polycro groundsheet from Gossamer gear adds protection for your uberlite (cut to ~50g), thinlight foam pad from Gossamer Gear adds a bit of warmth and protection for the uberlite (76g). Of course, all these add a bit of weight.
    I also like using a 6x9 DCF flat tarp for the versatility, will pre-treat clothes with Permithrin and sleep with a bug head-net.

  • @ultralighttravels
    @ultralighttravels Před rokem +2

    Great video, with some interesting gear! Good to see it getting some serious views. Well done, Justin!

  • @davesgarage78
    @davesgarage78 Před rokem +26

    I'll take comfort and a slower pace over a load out like that. Don't get me wrong I like lighter gear and stuff that packs smaller when possible but not at the expense of functionality and comfort. My goal is to get out and spend time in nature not trek through it as fast as possible. I enjoy the camping part of backpacking as much as the backpacking itself. 30 years ago I carried an almost 40lb pack at Philmont but equipment wasn't as light as what you can get now and I don't think UL even existed as a thing.

    • @khorneflakes2175
      @khorneflakes2175 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I feel you amn i almost don't understand some of these guys om youtube who almosy jogg on trails with 1000$ + ultralight setups.
      To each their own i guess, i like my two person tent to myself and my wide mattress.

    • @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32
      @TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I've noticed alot of people especially the ultra-light crowd never pay attention to the pack, just the gear inside.
      10kg in a pack that has no structure or rigidity to the hip belt saves weight sure, but will feel like a 30kg pack by the end of the day, with your neck and shoulders searing with pain, then add poor sleep ontop of that and your in a war of attrition with your own body putting strain on parts of your body not meant to be stressed.
      where as if you take a pack with a frame and struts that connect to the hip belt like the Tatonka Lastenkraxe yeah it weights 2.7kg on it's own but load it up with 25kg of gear and water it feels like a 10kg pack with the weight being supported on parts of your body meant to support your weight.
      Another way to put it, you can go to the gym for 5 days a week working out hard, lifting weights, come home and get good rest and be sore by the end of the week.
      You go two days without good sleep and a hike ontop of that and you will be stumbling like a zombie feeling miserable.

  • @Epic501
    @Epic501 Před rokem +2

    Pro audio tip, attach a fluffy little windsock over your mic, even if its just a built in camera mic, it will totally kill the wind noise, otherwise use a High Pass Filter to take out everything below 80-100Hz, it's quite distracting.

  • @ChrisHufnagel_Polymath
    @ChrisHufnagel_Polymath Před rokem +4

    Love how to push the limits to see how things work. I don't think I would use all of those items, but would consider some, especially if the environment was appropriate.

  • @lanecountybigfooters5716

    Extreme UL would be an excellent choice for a daypack, and an emergency overnight, I would imagine. Looking into that Patagonia pullover. Have you ever tried the Coalcracker Bushcraft ultralight T-Zero tarp? Super easy to use and very light, good for summer.

  • @thegingerpowerranger
    @thegingerpowerranger Před 9 měsíci +2

    Add a tyvek ground sheet and that hiking pad will go the distance for negligible extra weight
    Peg the tarp down further on 3 sides and it will help keep the mozzies out by reducing the opportunity for them to come in, that and you can add a mosquito net for your face to stop them biting for negligible extra weight
    The brs1000 is light but it chews through the gas. It is ok for small trips but on longer ones you will want to conserve the gas - titanium twig stove works a treat in these scenarios as long as you have access to dry twigs to feed it

  • @troychilds6050
    @troychilds6050 Před rokem +2

    PUSH the water bottle up from the bottom of the pocket, you'll get the hang of flicking it up and out and catching it. bring extra caps, lol
    the pockets are angled so it assists making it fall forward into your hand, and putting it back into the pocket.
    For extra cool factor, go for a full bottle flip.

  • @CAM-hc8ip
    @CAM-hc8ip Před rokem +4

    Would love to see repeated with a "superlight" setup at 7.5 base weight
    Ex: XLite NXT, + Altaplex tent + Katadyn water filter + Warmer quilt would add a ton of extra functionality for only a couple extra lbs

  • @damonfinken
    @damonfinken Před rokem +1

    A hose sounds like a great idea to convert a bottle to a bladder. Great idea, but... a simple loop of paracord with a sliding knot ... use the loop to create a larkshead knot around your bottle neck holds it. The sliding knot keeps it from falling off. Now you can reach the cord and pull.

  • @musubk
    @musubk Před rokem +3

    I wish I could get away with tarp camping here in Alaska, but the mosquitoes makes a full bug net nearly a requirement, and I often camp in places where you can't put stakes in the ground. I have a little 1p semi-freestanding tent and that's about the most minimal I can get away with.
    Mostly I use lightweight gear to make it easier to carry my videography equipment. I end up with a total pack weight similar to a traditional backpacker, but half of it is camera and audio gear.

  • @mercylessplayer
    @mercylessplayer Před rokem

    I really want to try and go SUL soon, this was an interesting perspective, thank you

  • @lt2246
    @lt2246 Před rokem +4

    Nice video.
    A head bug net might be a nice addition at a low weight

  • @bllarkin
    @bllarkin Před rokem +2

    Cool to see Weaver's Needle in your video!

  • @ChopperChad
    @ChopperChad Před rokem +1

    Enjoyed this vid and found useful as well. I’m also trying lighter and less but I’m landing around 8.5 lbs base. Some things I won’t hit the trail without.

  • @michaelkork6773
    @michaelkork6773 Před rokem

    I use a tarp generally, mld 6oz bug bivy is the secret to no bugs! And wind is shockingly rarely an issue and always management with minimal thought about camp location

  • @brucewarren5248
    @brucewarren5248 Před rokem

    Great information.

  • @ianmacfarlane9454
    @ianmacfarlane9454 Před rokem

    Great video,thanks 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @corleyoutdoors2887
    @corleyoutdoors2887 Před rokem

    This was a very interesting video!👍

  • @Mecha04
    @Mecha04 Před 10 měsíci +1

    beautiful scenery. Where was this filmed

  • @markthomas2436
    @markthomas2436 Před rokem

    I gotta have a sewn in floor in my tent, and I really wanna have bug proof mesh screens. The rest of that hike I can probably live with. It IS amazing just how light backpacking is getting.

  • @c.jarmstrong3111
    @c.jarmstrong3111 Před rokem

    Alpaca wool is AMAZING

  • @Andy-Mesa
    @Andy-Mesa Před rokem +4

    Uberlite in the desert with no protection is a great recipe for failure. I’d have taken your Decathlon pad if not a Thinlight.
    I love cold soaking. Not having to worry about fuel or spending time cooking is amazing.

  • @frogturtle
    @frogturtle Před rokem +1

    hey Justin, love the channel! what weight is a good sweet spot for you in terms of keeping weight down but also packing the comfort you want? thanks!

  • @stevenlangevin1159
    @stevenlangevin1159 Před 11 měsíci

    ive got a similar setup, but i use the katabatik pinon, almost a tent, 200g, protection from bugs and splash! also almost a bivy so it is a bit warmer, letting you use a sightly colder/light quilt

  • @kennethstarr5545
    @kennethstarr5545 Před rokem +1

    I make my backpacking hybrid
    Just because it ultra I won’t sacrifice my comfort
    Take for instance what you said about cold soaking. I’m on board about freeze dried and chicken Alfredo is the best! Anyway, cold soaking sucks and it doesn’t save that much. I’m not going to lose enjoyment over crap food.
    The whole reason for me is grounding and enjoyment. Otherwise I could walk trails in a city

  • @OrganizationalEngineering

    Did you permethin your tarp? Might help with the mosquitos.
    This isn't for me, but my pack has been getting gradually heavier the last couple years and this does make me think about ways to drop that down.

  • @REMPLACEMENT-TV
    @REMPLACEMENT-TV Před 12 hodinami

    the massive gear backpack is the main thing that makes me don't want to go wild camping , i'm cool with long walks but not with carrying huge and heavy stuff for hours

  • @douglasconrad8969
    @douglasconrad8969 Před rokem +1

    Love SUL !!

  • @jays7318
    @jays7318 Před rokem

    For my summer ultralight set-up I sleep in an 8oz Sol Escape Bivvy (breathable) and all my clothes on. No quilt taken! Cheap! I have taken it down to 6 deg Celcius in my hammock with a lot of clothes on, and was warm enough.

  • @Pasequale100
    @Pasequale100 Před 9 měsíci

    do you use an inlay/ liner for for sleeping bag? or not to save weight?

  • @KrizAkoni
    @KrizAkoni Před rokem

    I think this video may have convinced me to develop an UL setup for some of my trips. I have a lot of the components, just not thought of leveraging them this way.

  • @john_jacob_jingleheimerschmidt
    @john_jacob_jingleheimerschmidt Před 11 měsíci +6

    If you want to go lighter, buy a folding esbit stove. The x wing one works perfect with that toaks pot. With 3 tabs included your entire cook kit will weigh less than that fuel can. Wouldn't use it if you expect wind or need to melt snow for water though.

  • @TheRealLOLExpress
    @TheRealLOLExpress Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm sure you know this... But a tip for others that are going to use the purification tablets: After about 5-10 mins turn your bottle upside down, slowly undo the cap until some water creeps out. That way, some of the tablet can get to the threads that touched the water when filling up the bottle! :D

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner Před rokem

    algo suggested this; nice video!
    if you want to go even lighter and actually improve your lateral stability, try a pair of V-Trail 2.0 from Vibram. You can probably carry an extra couple pairs, depending on how heavy your current shoes are. Not an affiliate, I just use them and they're like off dirt tires for your feet. If you need more stability still, they re-released the Spyridon (of Warrior Dash fame) with the new 2.0 trail soles, and it has a metatarsal strap (like the VTrainer, for gyms).

  • @angelag5708
    @angelag5708 Před rokem +5

    I'll take another 200g so my tent can have a floor 😂

  • @gokucrazy22
    @gokucrazy22 Před rokem +1

    A system i use for bugs in my tarp setup is to use the quilt itself as a barrier for my body, then get a treated S2S bug net for my head, wearing a hat to keep the net lifted off my face

  • @hikingwheather
    @hikingwheather Před rokem

    Peak Refuel chicken alfredo is one of my fave meals!

  • @DrofJustice
    @DrofJustice Před rokem +16

    I use a lot of ultralight gear. It allows me to choose the comfort items I really want without worrying about weight. I can hike a lot farther and faster the lighter my pack is but my ChairZero is non-negotiable 🤣🤣

  • @3top5
    @3top5 Před rokem +1

    ZPacks makes nice shoulder strap water bottle pockets.

  • @tracykooken2606
    @tracykooken2606 Před rokem

    nice shot of the NEEDLE as a back drop !!😊 interesting about the 40 EE ..
    been thinking of one as my 20 EE Convert 950 fill, is to much 4 a ' summer ' quilt ! i had thot of the EE 50 degree in Apex .. if the temps was going 2 b so low y not go w 1 of ur other bags ??? just curious as 2 the motive !!... strickly 2 c how lite u could b ??? is my guess 😊.. 1 thhot 4 u is that desert sand releases heat at nite so im anxious 2 c how it goes for u in same weather/temps ect but on other surfaces ??? things that make ya go hmm 😅

  • @zmuzzy101
    @zmuzzy101 Před rokem

    Worth looking at the mini fuel system from air horns and the like to cut weight for short trips like this.

  • @MoosebearAdventures
    @MoosebearAdventures Před rokem +2

    NatureHike Cloud Trace (Ultralight Backpacking Double Wall Ten)
    best tent I've used so far

  • @angelosasso1653
    @angelosasso1653 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Footprint is crucial when using these kind of sleeping pads. Sand is basically small glass, I am pretty sure it would not last long like this.

  • @Fresh1O1O
    @Fresh1O1O Před rokem

    Where is your shirt/hoodie from? I’m looking for a wool shirt like that.

  • @andrewralte4844
    @andrewralte4844 Před 9 měsíci

    Off topic, your voice is great for presentation. My volume was way down but it's still clear.

  • @petaaaaa1234
    @petaaaaa1234 Před rokem +11

    I'm seriously debating a lot of these options... I've always been a big pack guy, but some of these are tempting. I'm just so attached to the idea of being prepared for any situation...

    • @giuseppejones1554
      @giuseppejones1554 Před rokem +1

      Look at it as a way to be prepared to take it easy on your knees, legs, and back?

    • @johnny555
      @johnny555 Před 7 měsíci

      Going ultra light is great but don't go extreme. You'll be way better off by using some of that weight savings on luxury like a Helinox chair etc. You'll feel better and 3 lbs of luxury items won't be noticed.

    • @petaaaaa1234
      @petaaaaa1234 Před 7 měsíci +1

      See I'm just not excited at all by a chair, and I guess that's just me and my styles. But my 2kg 1 person 4 season tent that will last 20 years? I can't let go of that kind of thing...

  • @michaelkent2203
    @michaelkent2203 Před rokem +2

    "Sand, everywhere ..." - Anakin Skywalker

  • @HikingAZ
    @HikingAZ Před 6 měsíci

    I love the Peralta trail area.

  • @glenloewen7507
    @glenloewen7507 Před rokem +2

    Almost all the packs I own weigh the better part of that entire system when they’re empty! I definitely have not embraced the ultralight trend, but do enjoy owning some ultralight gear to save on space and overall weight. I still don’t know why a pink titanium spoon would be better than any other titanium spoon. Mine is from Sea to Summit and weighs just a few grams (looks like the same length too).

  • @V4li4nt018
    @V4li4nt018 Před rokem

    Is that a cork extension for your trekking pole? Did you make it yourself? I can't find it in your gear list. It's really cool!

  • @sinusnovi3826
    @sinusnovi3826 Před 7 měsíci

    7:10 To combat armpit odors, I recommend before hiking: after washing, spray the shirt in the armpit area while it is still damp with Micropur classic dissolved in water and let the shirt dry. I always do this with all of my shirts, even in everyday life.

  • @allansoares9153
    @allansoares9153 Před rokem

    what is the triange towel attached on your bag ?

  • @drewangel9487
    @drewangel9487 Před rokem +1

    I think this loadout with the exception of subbing a proper tent for the tarp would be the sweet spot

  • @jpriddle
    @jpriddle Před rokem +3

    Love seeing you trying a system like this. As Mike Clelland wrote in one of his books, food and warmth are all you really need to survive.
    I’ve gotten down to 6.5lbs on some trips. The added weight included a GG Thinlight pad under the Uberlite for puncture protection/backup/etc and polycryo ground sheet or ultralight bivy.
    On purification tablets, Chlorine Dioxide (like Katadyn Micropur and Potable Aqua) is the only type that are effective on giardia and cryptosporidium. Philmont uses MicroPur exclusively for thousands of people every year. And there’s lots of cattle and rodent contaminated water there.

    • @jhonyermo
      @jhonyermo Před rokem

      Glad you mentioned Mike Clelland. I don't understand why his book is not read more. It is a classic.

  • @northwestwalking
    @northwestwalking Před rokem

    Curious what you’re filming with.

  • @makinganoise6028
    @makinganoise6028 Před 11 měsíci

    Can't beat wool clothing, bamboo underwear also good, spray gear with Permethrin and a repellent, I'm mid 50's so save weight where I can, mainly so I can carry more beers and food, the kit these days is for the main, so much better than 40 years ago when I started going outdoors.

  • @davef5916
    @davef5916 Před 11 měsíci

    sick load out for a short trip, feel like itd fail at some point on a prolonged thru or something but yeah. How long did it take for you to figure out what you'd take for this video?

  • @TheRedline161
    @TheRedline161 Před rokem +1

    Great video, loved seeing the set up ! Could have saved on cost and took a bin bag to sleep under 😂

  • @patriciamoscato6586
    @patriciamoscato6586 Před 11 měsíci

    Where does hose come from.ty

  • @kitl552
    @kitl552 Před 8 měsíci

    What trousers you rocking?

  • @Jppnametaken
    @Jppnametaken Před 6 měsíci

    Alpaca wool really is amazing if you have limited space or carry capacity or just want to be lighter. Even underwear I once wore for 3 days in a row and it did not smell at all or feel dirty or uncomfortable, highly recommended for longer hikes.

    • @cortez1030
      @cortez1030 Před 7 dny

      What brand alpaca wool underwear would you recommend?

  • @yuriklaver4639
    @yuriklaver4639 Před rokem

    What about bringing a life-straw for water? Or does that slip from the category Ultralight?

  • @graemefraser2840
    @graemefraser2840 Před 11 měsíci

    With the Toaks (or any other titanium cup) the handle is hot to touch from waste heat from the stove, not from transferred heat from the cup/contents. Forget the sticks, just wait 15 seconds after you switch the stove off and you can pick it up by the handle.

  • @mikkowus
    @mikkowus Před 5 měsíci

    What hiking pole is that?

  • @MattShannon
    @MattShannon Před rokem

    Great video. I wanted to watch your referenced video and hear what you had to say at the end, but the link goes away quickly since the video ends right after your last point. Thanks again.

  • @desperadodeluxe2292
    @desperadodeluxe2292 Před rokem +1

    With less stuff in the pack your keeping it tighter so it's harder to reach the water bottles.
    I'm interested in seeing an ultralight backpacking set up, that's just a tarp wool blanket piece of cardboard and a stove

  • @TannerSwizel
    @TannerSwizel Před rokem +3

    I've found a 10 pound base weight gives just enough creature comforts for me to have a good nights sleep and good 25 to 30 mile days. I used to redline the 20% body weight rule, and I found that it was just too much to be continuously useful. The shoulder and leg pains from the load actually used to keep me awake and affect my sleep.

  • @natlovell122
    @natlovell122 Před rokem

    Justin, what do your workouts consist of?

  • @shawnnimmer8170
    @shawnnimmer8170 Před rokem

    Do you remember what dry creek you were camping next to? When were you out here? These creeks were all flowing back in march.

  • @Oldsparkey
    @Oldsparkey Před rokem +1

    I can't believe you did not use some form of ground cloth under your mattress to add some protection for it. A good one is the 1/8 th inch thick foam pad from Gossamer Gear. Zpacks make a bathtub ground sheet for their tents which would work quite well with your set up.

  • @WolfPackM98c
    @WolfPackM98c Před 7 měsíci

    Only thing I could think about watching this video was sleeping on a sand bed in the desert under a tarp. There are A LOT of poisonous things crawling and slithering the desert floor at night. Mosquitos would be my last concern.
    Love the videos and it's always nice to see people come out to explore the Supes.

  • @Devsterinator
    @Devsterinator Před rokem

    What pants are those? They look super comfy

  • @planesandbikes7353
    @planesandbikes7353 Před rokem +2

    I really need to try OneBottle system. At 6 4 i just cannot easily grab the water bottles from my UL packs - well I can grab them awkwardly but never get them back in the bungied pocket. Maybe I could reach if I bought one of those tempting LightAF packs, which are longer with more wide-open bottle pockets. But I like how budget friendly my wife and my Gossamer packs are (Kumo and Murmur) - the 36L size is about right for up to 6 days for us.

    • @christopherhohman8758
      @christopherhohman8758 Před rokem

      Put the bottle on your strap up front? 2 less lbs on your back might be nice idk

  • @IdRatherBeHiking
    @IdRatherBeHiking Před rokem

    Good test Justin but we know you can push it a bit more. Swap the trekking pole for a carbon fibre, ditch the cook system and tent, cowboy camp lol. Does that 10 lbs include your insta360 x2?