Royal Marine Reacts To The US Army's New Mk18? The Compact SIG SPEAR ASSAULTER K
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You have to remember the US Marines were clearing rooms in Fallujah with 40" long M16A4s. The M7 with a suppressor is 36" and has way more armor penetration
True, but were the Marines happy about it? lol
If Command will have it's way, they'll make them carry the full length Spear in close-range urban battles and the short-barrel Spear in areas where engagements favor the range of the full length version.
@PocketDrummer Hell no, but I'm sure they would of been happier if it was 4 inches shorter and didn't take 7 rounds to drop someone
Nah, this gun isn't AP by any means. AP is a specialty round.
@VoFALT The standard round the US Army is going to implement for the M7 is literally designed to ne effective against modern armor. Literally the entire point of switching to the new round. Do some research homie
Mag dumping the new sig spear is like $75-$100 each time. Woof
I image it will be cheaper when more rounds are made
@@arrocoda3590It absolutely will be. I also think the sig spear will become a more prolific weapon in the civilian world as well. I reckon it will be on par with the AR-15 in sales within 20-30 years.
@@gavynhohon2818 Maybe but here's the thing about the SPEAR that I fear might happen. That it will end up going the way of the SCAR. Very little use within the US outside SF, but popular with civilians. It all depends on how much the rifle will do with the full power military ammo.
It is currently only slated to be in the hands of troops destined to close and destroy the enemy. The true ground pounders. So the economy of scale will make more sense when looked at it as a front line only weapon while everyone else uses the m4a1 with m855a1 ammo. People are worried about controllability of the ammo and gun when it's going only Into the hands of people who will be practicing with the ammo as there job. So I feel this might truely be it and not suffer the fate of the SCAR/XM8 or G11 fate.
The reasons they all failed is because there was no marketed improvement in ballistics or useablity between the scar and m4, and that the scar L was NOT a reasonable improvement of the M4 and the ScarH was notorious for destroying and causing drastic zero shifts with even rugged optics with its recoil system.
I really do get the boy cried wolf feeling with all these other systems claiming they were going to revolutionize big army in its effectiveness, but The 6.8 has shown better accuracy, distance and terminal performance. That's what I think is going to make this one last over the other systems failures.
Especially with the new belt feds coming out, those are seriously amazing.
He also has a half American half British flag on some of his kit. My best guess is it’s from the different militaries he has trained with
That's a canadian flag.
@@PhuVet and he also has a British/American flag. He had the Canadian/ American flag in the video he watched.
URGI basically refers to the latest upgrade package for the M4A1 as issued to USSOCOM units. Some like to refer to it as the M4A1 Block III.
Since you seem to be quite interested in the SIG Spear and Mr. Thumb, I'd highly recommend you check out his video on the Vortex XM-157. It's some really cool stuff. Video game mechanics in real life kind of cool.
I agree. I was just going to post this too.
I also left a comment about it. I just watched a few minutes of that video & you can see that he’s really impressed with the scope.
Mr thumb????
Even if they dropped the rifle (and kept the M-250), just keeping the scope will be worth the whole program. Combining all the strapped on extras into one optic saves so much weight and batteries, plus the ballistics calculator and comms ability, sharing stills and videos with the chain of command, programming up to 10 different targets at different ranges, plus acting as a rechargeable battery supply for a white light or anything else they might need to add to it.
The US isn't getting rid of the 5.56 it's just adding a new round to its inventory we have to much 5.56 in storage the toolbox is just expanding
Yeah. I think the Spear is designed to also accept 5.56 and 7.62 conversions as well to make it easier on logistics anyway.
They still have lots of XM-193 (and still order lots of it) for the various m-16's and M-16A1's still in inventory in the Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard.
@@ronaldmcreagann6343 The 5.56 Spear LT and Spear receivers are incompatible with regular AR uppers because of its gas system. There's no buffer tube for the bolt carrier to go into.
@@wittsullivan8130 He didn't say AR uppers. He said conversions meaning kits for the rifles.
The 5.56 may be phased out over time. For now, it's not going anywhere. Just because big Army adopts a new rifle and caliber doesn't mean every branch is switching immediately, if ever. There are also rear troops that won't be issued the newest rifle right away. I'm sure the military will sell off any surplus they have when the time comes.
Don't you just hate youtube when they mute not only the music (understandable), but also your commentary reaction?!
Yea sorry mate!
6.8 x 51 is supposed to be 20% lighter than 7.62 Nato.
this begs the question of Scar 17 (MK17) vs M7. The Scar is the lightest 762NATO combat rifle out there by roughly 1lb naked. So, are the gains of the M7 better than a longer ranged weapon system of the Scar? Keep in mind 762x51/308 will do the sameish dmg as the M7's 277 fury if you load down to a 113gr for the 762/308.
@@joshmorrison5142 Far as I understand it, its more complicated than that.
@@mrjtfang2 it really isn't. The only thing they did is beef up some spots on the rifle to handle the 80,000 pressures. If they made a MK17v2 with this in mind, it would be the same performance. Though, I like accuracy more out of FN and HK firearms over Sig. Something FN and HK do to make them sub moa to 1moa rifles.
@@joshmorrison5142 The 308 Spear destroys the "lighter" Scar 17 and least we forget destroys optics, Ug boot always breaking stock, the reciprocating charging handle, the pencil barrel, FN Mags and of course, Belgium is right next to those damn Dutch.
The NGSW was actually about replacing the 5.56 & 7.62 Nato ... with a 6.8 Common Cartridge. The Army had considered moving back to the 308 and moving from the 5.56 to 6.5 GR or 6.8 SPC. They wanted wanted 308 performance .. from the new CC and SW ...with lighter ammo ... and with only single rifle & MG ... for the squad weapon needs.
The only major mistake the Army made ... was return to a full length battle rifle cartridge ... when .. they should sought a a high pressure( short magnum) 6.8 SPC with high BC 130 gr ball ammo ... for a piston AR ... & ... the M249 ... and then sought the replacement for the M4 & M249 ( eg Sig Spear LT and the M250). Especially when the 277 Fury ... is roughly .... a high pressure 7mm 08 with a steel head. The 6.5 Creedmore ... could be shortened for an AR and in s Short Magnum case or with the Steel Head for higher pressure so the AR cartridge would perform close to the 6.5 CM... but from a AR rifle instead of a Battle Rifle. The Army knew about short Magnums and new ammo like the 6mm ARC and the 6.8 SPC ... needed more pressure and a heavier higher BC bullet And had the 6.8 CC ... been an AR cartridge with near 7mm08 performance .. then everybody civilian & military would have gone gaga over the new US Army cartridge.
Take a trip back to the states and start looking for houses, we would love you to have you back.
Wait till he winds up with an invite to @Unsubscribed and he will be back😂
I heard a seal say he isn't taking less than 14 mags into battle. You carry what you think will keep you alive not what makes you comfortable.
Depends on a lot of factors. I bought 50 mags each deployment and when I got to my fob or cop I loaded them up with as much ammo as I could get. I stored some in an ammo box on the roof and some in my room/office and the rest were in my NTV.
the chrono he uses is the garmin xero c1 pro. its 599 usd
Fantastic chrono. Made all other chronos virtually obsolete. (With a slight exception for lab radars etc for calculating Ballistic coefficient)
You need to watch the video on the M250 from SIG. UNREAL.
The cyclic rate of the shorty spear sounds and seems a lot faster than the 556 rifle
You kept asking about the comparison of weight between the SA80 and the Spear with ammo and so was I, so I did some math.
SA80 full weight with optics and loaded magazine is 10.9 lbs. A 30 round magazine of 5.56 being about 630 g or 1.3 lbs. Combat loads are about 210 rounds divided into 7 mags of 5.56 with a weight of 7.4 lbs. Total combat load out is 17 lbs.
SIG Spear 13" barrel full weight is 9.84 lbs with ammo and suppressor. A 20 round magazine of 6.8 is about 680 g or 1.5 lbs and the proposed load out is 140 rounds divided into 7 magazines of 6.8 with a weight of 9.8 lbs. Total load out is about 18.1 lbs.
So the Sig in comparison to the SA80 is 1.1 lbs heavier with a combat load out and has 70 rounds less then the SA80.
From what I've seen, the difference in basic combat load would be 140 (7 x 20 round magazines) vs 210 (7 x 30 round magazines). So a 33.33% reduction in cartridges for a ~10% increase in weight of the ammunition. That would be a quarter of a kilogram or ~0.6 lb, not including differences in weight of the magazines.
Have you seen his video on the scope made for these rifles? It's scifi stuff. Garand has a video on it. XM-157 Vortex scope.
If you want a good description of the handling specs for this gun watch Brandon Herrera’s vid on “does it suck” he goes into detail on the weight.
The gel they use is called “Ballistics Gel”
11:05 that's true, but to your point, it's something shooters will be trained around. That's one reason why the M7 is going to "front-line" infantry units who, by the nature of their MOS, will be constantly training to overcome such limitations anyway, like Rangers, airborne, cavalry and such units which are expected to be regularly in contact with similar "front-line" enemy forces within small arms range, while the M4 stays with "rear-line" units like artillery & indirect fires, logistics, etc.
Rangers are spec ops
My favorite garand thumb videos are his weather/adverse conditions testing. Really informative and also funny, hearing them rag on certain guns all the time is great. I think he's made one with mud testing and one with cold weather/ice testing.
7 mags of 20 rounds of .277 fury are 2 pounds heavier from 7 mags of 30 rounds of 5.56.
Guns and ammo (140 rounds) are 4 pounds heavier from current load of 210 rounds (no scope, no can in both loads).
And let's not forget that the fabled "advanced Russian body armour" this was designed to defeat has been proven to not exist.
@@AllThingsCubey To play devils advocate, why would you want to wait and do nothing until an adversary DOES have said armor? Best to be ahead of the curve, at least.
@@fraleo2192 Because there are numerous disadvantages to this new rifle such as weight, cost, supply chain, and now quickly it burns out its barrels, which are absolutely pointless if the enemy doesn't have good body armour, which we know they don't.
@@AllThingsCubey Weight is an issue, cost really isnt, with the giant budget and how expensive things already are, a couple thousand dollar rifle isnt much, supply chain will be worked out in time, and the barrel life issue ive seen thrown around doesnt seem like a big issue, sig themselves says the barrels are good for 10k rounds, which is perfectly acceptable.
I can get 6 20rd Lancer L7's in the space as 8 30rd USGI aluminum (9 if I really want to squeeze it in). That's going to be a bigger issue than weight, imo. I'm sure they found a way to tackle this issue early in the program, but I've not heard how they're going to do it. Some new "stripper-type" magazine reloader that can reload a 20rd mag in a few sec? Tossing another guy into each squad and making him carry a duffel bag full of magazines? lol
4:58 his family is from Canada and that is why he spells his channel name like that
URGI stands for “upper receiver group improved” it’s a geissele AR15 setup
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Just an FYI the gas trap idea goes back to the origins of the semi automatic rifle. In fact the original M1 Garands were gas trap designs because they were unsure about wear and about how accuracy would be affected by drilling a hole in the rifling. If you look at the G41s made by germany they were of a gas trap design for the same reason.
It is so funny how ideas ebb and flow with technology and design preferences.
If you didn’t know, Garand Thumb, AKA “Flannel Daddy”, is a veteran who served in the TACP (Tactical Air Control Party) in the Air Force. Which is some pretty badass stuff.
4:58 And if I am not mistaken, yes he lives In Idaho.
He lives in Rohan, Admin is in Arrakis.
@@MikeRehfuss real
@@MikeRehfussHe’s the Lisan Al Ghalib
I've watched a lot of Garand Thumb's videos and I have to say that none of his crew are in any way 'normal', which means they are the greatest group of guys to hang out with. They have that vibe of just a bunch of kids out for a day of play with the sorts of things that boys love.
Mom: What are you going to do today?
Me: Gonna go out with the guys to play guns.
Mom: Have a nice time dear.
To complete the videos for the new M7, you need to watch Vortex XM157 optic that is going to be paired with it. It's awesome!
You should definitely check out the video for the XM-157 scope, which is what will be paired with the Sig M7. It’s an incredible piece of equipment.
A round that travels 10+ inches in gel before tumbling / fragmenting is not desirable at all, it means that if you don’t hit cover first it will pencil through dumping only a small % of its energy into a human body with most trajectories and body types, I think the military round will behave much more like the new m885a1 with very early fragmentation but with more mass to fragments and bigger wound channel. I wouldn’t worry about the Royal Marines new rifle, I think 5,56 makes much more sense as an infantry round even when armor is considered (you need a 20$ tungsten core 6,8 fury round to dfeat level 4 ceramic by the way) and the l403a1 ks-1 is pretty much the apex of what an ar-15 system can provide
You got to see the 8.6 black out from garand thumb
Great content dude, nice work. Micah is his camera man and editor i believe, he also has a channel, a little less serious than GT
The thing with the spear is that you mix match parts from each other and create your own style of rifle , the civilian one you can swap between calibers just by changing the upper. There is even a different lower with a stock kind of like a sniper riffle , and its the california compliant variant . So you got choices with the spear to create your own style of riffle.
Combat loadout of 5.56 is 210 rounds, or 7 mags. With the 6.8 that gets you just 140 rounds. This is my biggest worry with this gun. Suppression fire is pretty damn important..
fun fact, most “new” technology on the firearms side are pretty old technology, the gas trap system saint john was talking about i know was used is at least one prototype german rifle during wwII
Also the original Garand prototypes before they realized it was an unreliable and unnecessary complication, then they swapped to a normal gas port.
the MCX Spear is about $4200 where I live, and that is for the fully civilian legal with the 16 inch barrel.
Not sure if you will read this or not. But would be cool if you did a reaction to Garand Thumb going over the 8.6 blackout round. It is a pretty insane round if you haven't seen or heard about it yet. He has 2 videos on it, could do a longer video that covers both b2b or 2 separate ones. It is some very cool and interesting stuff!
Yes please. "The quietest and most satitfying round we have ever shot" is a freaking great video. 😃
FYI, don't skip the ads on Garand Thumb videos. If Charlie is around, the SDI and Mantis ads are usually hilarious and are some of my favorite things about GT videos lol
“This video is brought to you by SDI, Self Deleting Italians!” was the last Charlie featured Ad 😂
I'm a radio tech nerd, so for fun with the lads I load up the mag pouches with HTs to hand out, 9 on the front plate holder, 6 + 3 on the admin pouch, and +2, one on each side. Someone has to be that guy. 🤣 Cheers.
I think the Brits will be ok. The 556 round will be used and be relevant for many more years to come.
I swear, the MCX Spear chassis is winning me over. I used to think I'd be a forever lover of the AR-15/M4 platforms, but I dunno. The Spear chassis is fucking baller
I did instructor training with the AMU coach a few years back.
Yes you can buy a civilian version.....but VERY expensive like $7,000 USD
First 3 minutes or so audio cut out, thought I had audio issues or headphone malfunctions or something. Got me good. *shrug*
Copyright claim unfortunately 💔
Well if you're carrying 4 mags of 5.56, you're losing 10 rounds per mag with the Sig. So instead of 120 it'd be 80. And that's if the weight isn't an issue. And I'd be curious if there'd be an issue with the size of plate carriers and mag pouches
The Geissele URGI is a new upper that has been adopted by SOCOM as their issued rifle
When they say "new Mk18" they're not calling this new Sig the Mk 18 (pronounced "Mark"), as the Mk18 is an existing CQB short barrel (10.3") version of the M4A1 developed by the Navy (hence the "Mark" not just "M18" since that's a bit of Navy-ism thing they do differently like calling bathrooms "Heads" or floors "decks" even when not on a ship lol)
I was gonna say that our combat loadout was 7 mags…6 and 1 in the rifle. “Location depending” I might throw a few extra in where I could stuff them! So you’d have to carry 4 more mags (at that extra weight) to get to where we were. But, the penetration and lethality? I guess would be the trade off…And us bigger guys who were (SAW toters) might try to stuff a few extra here and there with those 20 rounders! Never enough when it gets rough! Michael Steele in the comment section used the math and explained it perfectly! I’m just a Rcn. grunt that hates math! lol
you've done a great job looking at the next gen rifle. now you need to check out the optic that comes with it. and the machine gun replacements (squad and heavy) that are coming. they're even CRAZIER
Yeah it does look chunkier. Because it's a larger caliber. Especially the case.
Sig does have a couple different variations of the spear available to the civilians including the mcx-spear chambered in 7.62x51 & mcx-spear lt chambered in 7.62x39 & 5.56 nato
Yes, 13" SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) variant of the MCX Spear in .277 Fury/6.8x51 costs between $4200 and $4600. The "pistol" with a 13" barrel and without a stock (so you can add a brace or register it as an SBR later to mount a regular stock) costs the same price range, the 16" barrel version costs $4200.
To answer some of your questions…. For the most part neither rifle will be legally sold to the general public as is in the US. 1 the select fire from semi to full auto will not be allowed. (Only full automatics made prior to May of 1986 are in public circulation in the US, and only in states that allow ownership of class III firearms.) 2 the barrel lengths are too short without paying a tax stamp, paperwork and other legal hoops to jump through. Your state will also have to allow private ownership of a short barreled rifle. For the most part, most privately owned ones will have a barrel length of at least 16 inches to not have to deal with the short barrel paperwork. 3 not all states allow suppressors on rifles and those that do require a tax stamp and paperwork. Keep in mind the tax stamps, paperwork, and the other hoops to jump through are all federal laws (National Firearms Acts of 1934, 1968, and 1986 are the big ones for this.) States can choose whether or not they will allow private ownership of these items.
As for the weight in regards to magazines and ammo itself, it will be similar to the 7.62 rifle you carried. 7.62 NATO is 7.62x51mm, and the .277 Furry will be known in the military as the 6.8x51mm. With special dies on a reloading press you can go from 7.62, which in the civilian world is known as the .308 Winchester, and size the mouth of the cartridge down to accept the smaller diameter bullets. Bullet weights is the main difference where the 7.62 is around 150 grains and the 6.8 is 113 grains for military loads. 37 grains difference is not a lot. It is very important to note that the high pressure rounds they were using will not be sold to the general public. The higher pressure rounds are a special made bi metal casing with the bottom 1/3 made of steel instead of brass to handle the rather outrageous 80,000 psi chamber pressure. Most commercial ammo and firearms are going to be 68,000 psi or less according to SAAMI specs.
For lightening the ammo, there are a few options that can be looked into. Starting with the magazines, they could get with a company like magpul or surefire and make composite material magazines instead of all metal. You could even make 25 or maybe 30 round magazines possible by going to lighter magazines. Then there is the casing itself. During the Next Generation competition, one company did have a fiberglass composite casing for the ammo. (Task and Purpose did a video on this.) The advantages of these fiberglass composite casings should not be overlooked. The fiberglass composite has an insulating effect that can gain some additional feet per second in velocity (100 fps or less). It also reduces some heating issues. The casings are cool to the touch when ejected, so your buddy next to you doing a mag dump and casings landing on the back of your neck or going down your shirt will not burn you. Surprisingly these casings prevent the chamber from really heating up. In fact on the video by Task and Purpose involving these fiberglass composite casings, he was able to touch the chamber with a bare finger after a mag dump on full auto and not get a burn. Probably the most important aspect to these casings is that they were significantly lighter than traditional brass ones. I can’t remember the reduction amount, but it was significant. I know some research and testing will need to be done with the high pressure rounds before adopting a fiberglass composite casing, however it might be something worth looking into. In theory with these ideas you could get the 6.8mm ammo and mags close to those of 5.56. Imagine getting 7 30 round mags of 6.8 with in 2-4 ounces of 7 30 round mags of 5.56.
The URGI is a compact AR-15 variant made by Geissele Automatics. It was adopted by US JSOC. Ballistics gel is available all over the internet. They even have it with skeletons inside. You can buy the semiauto.
Did you see the chamber pressure of the round the Spear fires? If they have the fullpower military ammo with the steel bases its 85,000 psi, which when you consider a .50 cal is 50,000 psi thats fucking incredible 😅
Something to think about OH is also the decreased drop over distance and the increased weight and performance of the projectile. I would wager you'd be more likely to make a hit farther then a 5.56 round and you'd have a greater effect on target. There's no apples to apples metric unfortunately. Everything I've seen about the weight is it would be around 3x as heavy as 5.56 - which makes sense due to the projectile alone being around 2.1 times heavier (62 grains vs 130 grains). I know a couple guys who went out with a loadout of 600-900 rounds of 5.56 in afghaniland - they kept spare mags in their pack and kept a couple of bandoleers to reload the mags.
I've heard soldiers in afganistan carrying 9 to 14 mags.
That big of a round needs about 20" of barrel to make use of the powder available!
My 350 Legend hurls 90gr Lehigh's over 3,000fps. It fits in a standard 5.56 action as well!!!
The Garmin radar chronograph runs right at $800 dollars. They're really cool, but rather pricey.
Holy that’s expensive! Bet it’s a really good bit of kit though.
@@OriginalHuman DUDE the Royal marines s u c k... nothing BEATS the us military
@@anamegoesherecalm down, man.
@@ronaldmcreagann6343 who says i was "not calm" ?
@@anamegoeshere it’s more figurative here than literal. I’m sure you were calm typing it, just rest on that spiel while your ahead.
Garand thumb’s range is in Idaho but I think he lives in Washington state, if he doesn’t then he probably lives in Idaho as well. I know someone on his team lives in Washington though.
I wouldn't worry too much. It's going to be quite a while before the new caliber is fully implemented. It's a Spec Ops, DM kind of thing. So I don't think to will replace the 5.56 right away, more like 7.62 NATO. So I think 5.56 will be around for some time to come.
The fact it can achieve the velocity and energy it does with the short barrel is testament to the development of the round. Is it expensive? Yes. The ammo is expensive, NOW. But sig can not have the sole rights to produce the ammo for the US military simply because it can not physically supply it all on its own. It's going to be subcontracted out to other manufacturers too.
They carry 25rd mags should be the same number of mags since 6.5 in the hybrid case rounds is lighter than any other full power cartridges.
The way I understand it is we go for long distance short distance heavy light back and forth it's a lot of up and down with trade offs......they want long distance heavy hitting like WW1 and 2.......in a few years it'll switch back to light weight and more ammo
You should react to micah Mayfield's (grandthumbs friend) video called we tried to destroy a m&p 2.0 he very entertaining
My buddy is an Armour in the Royal Marines and this is the last thing he would watch. He just took the shilling. He watches all the things that i should be watching on CZcams!!
He's from Preston x
The new Sig and Cartridge is for certain units in the Army. Depending on where they are and the type of fighting will determine which weapon the soldiers will deploy with. If they will be in areas where the range to enemy combatants could be at long range then they will use the Sig if the Sig is something that they buy enough weapons and ammo for use.
What they should have done is went with the 6mm ARC or 22 Grendel it will give them the added range and kept the rifles the same size, they would just need to add a new upper or barrel, bolt and magazine. Still carry the same amount of ammo.
But the Military likes to waste millions only to cancel the weapon or weapon system after some simulated training
Yes, it’s already for sale on American civilian market
Where was the sound for the first couple of minutes?
Sig also got a contract for a military version of their Rattler SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) in .300 Blackout. Things have come full circle. The .300 Whisper was developed by a J.D. Jones at SSK in the early 90's, trying to get a sweet military contract to replace the MP5SD3.
Story time. The H&K MP5SD3 is a version of the MP5 with an integrally suppressed barrel. Because 9mm NATO comes screaming out of a carbine length barrel, it's supersonic, it's quiet enough to be hearing safe with a suppressor, but not quiet enough for certain tasks performed by sneaky sneak bois. H&K drilled ports along the length of the barrel to bleed off excess gas pressure so the normally hot 9mm NATO round is only going 1000-1100 fps, making it subsonic, but also weak and short ranged compared to a standard MP5. J.D. Jones of SSK figured you could load a 7.62 bullet in an expanded 5.56 case and have a heavy bullet going subsonic. It would only require a barrel change on an M-4. The subsonic load with a 200-230 grain bullet goes 1000-1100 fps out of an 8" barrel with a suppressor. The overall length with a suppressor is shorter and weighs less than an MP5SD3. Because the bullet is almost twice the weight of a 9mm bullet, it's almost twice as powerful as a suppressed subsonic 9mm bullet, it's about the same power as a .45 ACP. It also has an effective range up to 300 yards, out ranging most submachineguns. It accepts all the accessories you can mount onto an M-16/M-4, uses the same magazines, and has the same controls, since it's an M-4 with a 7.62 bore diameter. Jones' idea didn't go anywhere. Between wars, there's not a lot of extra black budget money floating around and he wanted too much.
Then "Q" at AAC suppressors, now owner of Live Q or Die, heard about the Special Forces community running low on ammo in Afghanistan and having to rely on battlefield pickups of AK's and the problems M-4's were having at eliminating threats at range (this was before their 77 grain Open tipped match ammo was developed.) Q figured he could tweak the .300 Whisper and developed three different loads, a load that replicated the ballistics of the AK's 7.62x39 round, but in a shorter, lighter carbine based on the M-4, a round that uses existing 7.62 NATO projectiles that's good for deer hunting in the US, and the subsonic 200-230 grain load for super quiet work, which is what J.D. Jones was going for. The SpecFor community LOVES Q and AAC, so they started buying his Sugar Badger carbine with petty cash. Sig had the manufacturing capability to fulfill larger contracts, they're selling the US Military a select fire version of the Sig Rattler SBR as a PDW.
Opened youtube at a good time.
The KS-1 is just a M4, but its by Knights Armaments. Knights is like... top-shelf quality. I don't know why you'd give something so beautiful to a bunch of grunts who are just going to smack it around. Sig is mid-shelf. They are a high volume manufacturer and so each rifle doesn't get the same love as you'd get from a Knights or a Daniel or Christensen.
I would be interested to see your take on Blackout rounds. The 277 is interesting, but for CQB... I think the future is something like the Q Boombox. Huge slow like.. 300-grain 8.6mm subsonic bullets. All the sneaky special forces folks with guns that are actually quiet. Garand Thumb has not done a video on the Boombox yet, but he has done one on the Q Honeybadger, as well as the Sig Rattler (both 300 blackout). You want shorty rifles? Those are shorty rifles.
But in terms of _reaction_ content, I'd like to see you react to Garand Thumb's "what does it sound like to be shot-at" videos. He did one with standard rounds, then he did another with subsonic rounds. It blew my mind, the quiet guns. Its REALLY like James Bond movie quiet.
Royal marines are commandos, they are not like US marines
im so excited about this new bullet, i want to see this expanded upon, the knowledge shared and weapons tech to hit a new golden age. heres my dad advice for the day. "everything in the known universe requires BALANCE absolutely everything. a lil too much or too little can start a chain reaction that causes a catastrophe. work and play, eat and excersize, all things in balance" that includes balistics. just making a bullet bigger isnt the answer. just making it faster isnt the answer. just carrying more isnt the answer. gotta balance and optimize those stats. all of them.
While your advice was incredibly wise and genuinely good advice, I think you misunderstood the Dad Advice segment, it's more "Advice from your Dad" rather than "Advice for Dads"
@OriginalHuman
No audio for about a minute ending at roughly 3:10???
Minimi is the real name! The FN Minimi (short for French: Mini Mitrailleuse; "mini machine gun")
Personally, what I think is going to happen is that there will be a shorter barrel weapon for the types of units that need it, but it will be another caliber but with the hybrid case technology. Simply put, the new case tech works too well to go away from, and especially in a short barrel context because the high pressure can get more from a short barrel than a normal pressure case. The problem is the 6.8X51 is simply too much mass for the use case. I think we will see a true intermediate caliber designed to take advantage of the new case tech and then see that adopted by SOCOM and potentially spreading from there if the M7 does prove to be too much for a standard issue. There has already been some movement towards that with the .264 LICC program, though that also has its own problems.
6:57 there is always conversion kits
What sort of flash are we gonna get on that short barrel?
My wife wants the 5.56 version bad... Just a bit out of budget ATM. (Spear LT, its like $2500, and she gets squeamish spending over 2k)
You can get the full size in 6.8x51 (277 Fury) but it is a good bit more than the 5.56 version
Ngl it’s gonna take A LOT to convince me this isn’t just iballisticsquid with glasses on 😂😂
Watch his video on the optic that will go with this rifle. It's absolutely amazing. Programmable for up to 10 targets. Soldiers will be carrying a $10,000 computer on their rifles every rifleman a sniper. VORTEX XM157 about a year ago.
Need info on the civilian versions (semi-auto) of this rifle.
Our countries are very similar but we have our cultural differences as well. In the UK, you guys pronounce the letter Z as zed. In America, we pronounce the letter W as upside down McDonald's logo
I think GT is carrying 6 20 round mags in his webbing?
Militaries always equip for their previous engagements
the MCX platform is a faster weapon than the AR platform, unless the AR is tuned for fire rate
video is a SF guys view point (counter argument) from the infantry soldier on the M7 (xm5>xm7>m7)- czcams.com/video/YdAYSEm5zJA/video.htmlsi=MVPNi_qnW26RrXkV
u need to wach the video of the new army scope it is insane from grand thumb
16:31 no it’s not really a big rifle. Chunky? Yes. Long? No. Standard rifle length for the civilian market is 16 in AR-15s. The m4a1 has a 14.5 in barrel. Before then it was the m16 with a 20 in barrel. Marines were doing cqb in fallujah with m16s. The length has gone down. It may seem odd because your standard issue rifle was a bullpup.
Edit: Also urban does not always mean cqb. Look up brass facts on CZcams and you’ll find his video on it.
At 15:50 it's called ballistics jell and anyone can make it
Not sure if anyone else experienced this but I wasn’t able to get any audio from right after your intro to lead into the video up until about 3 mins 10 seconds. Not sure if that’s just me or everyone else but just letting you know brotha
I will say now you got done with SIH Spear, I would advise you to take a look at XM250 LMG they are making to replace the M249 with the same round of the Spear.
the high powered bi metal bullets for this cost 21 us per. also the optic is something like 12k per. I have my doubts. They should have added a flamethrowing robot dog to go with it.
I know you said you didn't want to watch too many garand thumb videos but I do have a couple recommendations. First is the "How Far Are Shotgun's Deadly?" video and second and more relevant is the new chinese ballistic helmet test.
how much recoil will it have with the 85,000 PSI round
we like the 22 short here
small sig spear should be called 'toothpick'
Grand thumb is in Idaho, or Montana. Not Ohio
Yes. Ohio's landscape does NOT look like that 😁
1 malfunction per 10,000 rounds. Meanwhile UKs bull pup is like 1 malfunction per 10 rounds.