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@@edwardabrahamiii3742 They are not bullets/bb's they are "shot" or a slug or a Sabo round if a single projectile. As to accuracy, the quality of the barrel, the choke, and other factors lead to accuracy of pattern. Perhaps some time actually shooting one would help you understand.
Mav 88 is the best choice for me, and not just because I already have one. It has the same mechanism as the Mossberg 500 and Mossberg 590. Most of the parts are interchangeable, but since the Mav 88 doesn't come drilled and tapped you can't use the picatinny rails that are ready for the 500/590, but plenty of options exist for the Mav 88 alone! Mav 88 is the Ford, the Mossberg 500 is the Mercury and the Mossberg 590 is the Lincoln.
For anyone looking at sub 300 dollar pumps, I recommend the EAA Churchill. It’s a CZ 612 clone and comes with ghost ring, pic rails and pistol grip with threaded Benelli choke tube. It has the smoothest action of all the budget shotguns I tried and it runs like a top.
I have a Savage Stevens 320 security, the one thig that I found out about it after getting it. There is not much add-ons to get for it, but I still like it and still go out to the range and shoot it.
@@mattpeacock5208 if you're referring to the HAWK clone I own one and its been very reliable and ive had it since the mid to late 90's. Can't speak for all of them but mine works great. It does not compare to a Remington 870 and i have a few of those as well. But they cost considerably more. I wouldnt hesitate to use my HAWK in self defense tho.
Got the Tristar Cobra 3 Force for an amazing price of $83 plus shipping new on a special deal and so far love it. Love the spring for auto return if the forearm and it didn't mess me up so leaving the spring in as is. I bought fir home defense and the less than 7 lb of weight as well. The only thing I'm adding is a flashlight / green laser combo for under the barrel in case of low or no light conditions. Lastly I've put through all kinds of loads with no issues so it's not picky on loads like some are. Extremely pleased
20+ years ago I bought a Mossberg 500 Slugger combo. Love it and have 0 issues with it. 10+ years ago got a H&R youth model 20gauge pump specifically for basement home defense. Well pleased and confident with either.
The Maverick has been a beast since it came out. My youngest daughter took her first buck with the Maverick in 2003 @13. Your Remington shotgun could be either a Remington "UMC" model 1909 or model 10 less then 4000 were made. Dates around 1909, the Model 10-A had a wooden heat shield on it used in WWI if the original barrel is around 20" it is definitely a Model 10 A. The end piece is a Lyman Cutts Compensator I believe. I've have owned both models that were handed down to me in the 70's
I recently went out to buy the Mossberg 88 but, sitting right next to it for only $30 more was a Dickinson XX3D-M2 Tactical pistol grip 12 gauge pump. Originally manufactured in Turkey, it has so many features that I couldn't resist. It resembles that Tristar very much but with even more goodies! Here's the list; ghost ring rear sight with fiber optic front sight, Marine finnish in silver cerakote, picatinny rail on top for optics & rail on forend for lights, med soft rubber pistol grip, heat shield down the 20" barrel, extra large rubber recoil pad & built in 12 gauge shell holder on the stock. The choke is a door breeching compensator combo & it's got 2 sling mounts, front swivel mount is on the magazine tube cap so that it doesn't interfere with the forend or your tack light. Regular style pump action, no return asist. Saftey & release located the same as the Tristar. I think that about sums it up.
I'm so glad you decided to post this! Love it! I love my maverick 88, after adding an ATI shotforce pistol grip stock combo I run into the same issue as the Steven's model where the slide action button is in a position that is not easy to use.
The Mossberg gets it's name Maverick from the name of the county in Texas where it's made. The factory is in Eagle Pass, Tx and the "88" refers to the year of inception. 1988.
Of the three probably the mossy. Personally I went with the Rem 870 Tactical. 7round 18". Tried & proven. Super easy to work on, reliable & tons of available accessories
First time I have seen one of your videos....very informative and grassroots review. If I may, take a look at this combination... a Mav 88, with an OPSol Flex adapter, and minishells from Aguila, Challenger or Federal. We designed this combination specifically for our wives and daughter, who would not shoot even low recoil target rounds. Just did some practicing last night with the Mav, the 59A1, and the Shockwave. For me, until you run 9 minishells fast through a Shockwave with brace, you don't really understand how compact and comfortable it feels. The Shockwave came out 1 year after we put some adapters in Mossberg's hands, and they specifically promoted the firearm with the adapter at Shot Show 2017. There are lots of good shotguns, and everyone has an opinion. But only the Mossys can really run minis well, with the adapter. And yes, we have extensively looked at 870s and 1300s, but they have loading features that create issues for minis, separate from what our adapter does. Home defense is a family effort.
I recently picked up a Winchester SXP 12 gauge pump for $299. It is functionally similar to the classic Winchester Model 12/25 shotguns, but is made in Turkey. The quality of Turkish firearms are getting getting positive reviews, especially shotguns. This one is built like a tank. I am very impressed with this shotgun at this price. @2a Edu love these kind of videos - keep up the good work!
I Love my Mossy Mav88. I initially paid $139 for it maybe 10 years ago, bought a collapsible AR type buttstock/ pistol grip kit, and railed forend for it. And of course, a shot shell sling...because what's a long gun without a sling? Got a flashlight mounted up front for the "things that go bump in the night". 👍🏻
that tristar cobra 3 is an exact replica of my Webley&Scott shotgun(or vise-versa) aand its been a great shotgun,and ive added a 7 shot mag extension to mine, it uses the Benelli nova/Super nova extensions, and the chokes are Benelli/Beretta mobile
Thanks for the extra treat at the end, I do like you humble and straight presentation, you very relatable also like tactical XL. Keep pumping out the vids and I keep watching ! Ken in OKC
Love my Stevens 320. Bought it to use as a ranch gun to throw in the side by side and couldn’t be happier with it. I actually really enjoy the ghost rings on it.
Alright, alright, was going off memory. Under $200 is probably more accurate. Never bought one or seriously shopped for one. But, now that y'all mention it, I think around $200 is more accurate for the year and a half ago price. But, still, a huge jump in current times
@@patricjft glad you caught yourself and corrected the amount......Maverick 88 is an economy Mossberg Model 500, and every bit as good besides the crossbolt safety as to tang mounted.
New to channel. Really enjoyed getting right into the guns. Humble, truthful, regular people. Want to listen and write down info provided. I'm not a big gun knowledge guy. Hunting and fishing in the northwest all my life. Thank You.
Thanks for the video buddy I know you said you were debating but screw them can’t let them win plus you do great videos we love to watch ✊have fun at the range and stay safe
I don't know. The spring assist on that Turkish shotty seems sluggish and slow. Maybe after break in it will be better. However, the price point is fair and thumbs up on the chrome chamber and barrel.
Well I actually just bought one a few days ago and u can take the spring out of the pump completely to make it a normal pump u simple pull off your tube bolt and pull of your pump and barrel and the spring is around the tube and u can take it out and put your barrel and pump handle back on in 10 seconds so u can have best of both world with the tristar
I've only got one shotgun and have two #7's followed by three OO Buck for home defense. If two shots don't get them to understand then the last three can cut them down^^
I love the Maverick 88. It hasnt been available since the world fell apart. I did purchase the Churchill 612. Excellent weapon made by Akkar. 268 total.
The maverick 88 was my first gun. I got the one with the 28" barrel. Real smooth shooter. All of these are pretty sharp though 12 gauges is what kinda got me into firearms. Can't beat a 12 gauge
The Stevens 320 is a copy of the old Winchester 1200/1300 action. While it appears to have been dropped from their catalog Stevens also had a Model 350. Which was a clone of the Ithaca Model 37.
The 88 , the 500 and 590 was and is hard to find in stock , so I bought a Escort Slugger for $175.00 .it Looks kind of like a Benelli Super Nova. It works and is smooth cycling .
I recently bought a Fedarm 12 gauge pump 7+1 for 2 bills from Atlantic Firearms. I haven’t found any bad reviews on it or heard any negatives about it. I’m picking it up tomorrow from my FFL.
@@2aEdu nice vid bro... Just picked up the JTS AK12 T1... Needed a shotgun... But u inspired me to try an AK.... This what I came up with 😂 ... Boom AK12 😂
To be truthful, the Turkish shot gun is not bad at all. The Tristar company makes a good shot gun for the buck, I own a Tristar Raptor semi automatic for the past three in a half years and never had a problem with it after the proper break in and cleaning. Then I modified the stock with ATI adjustable stock and put on MAGPUL front and rear flip up sights and I just love it. Plus there is a lot of support from CZcamsrs who own the same shot gun and it was very helpful . This is just my opinion, but the Tristar line is pretty damn good for what you pay for !
Great video, love the Mav 88...my first was the same Security model in the video...the rest were the 20" 7+1 models...love the extra shell capacity. Extras are mainly for others to shoot, throw in the Opsol adapter...and even kids can shoot the mini shells.
I actually have a Security 88 (Adaptive Tactical Sidewinder) and I love it. Not sure if I would like the TriStar.......send it to me and I'll let you know.......lol
Another great video! My fav of those would be the TriStar. I might actually pick one up because the spring assist is interesting. I’d like to add the Omega p12 as a good budget buy.
I just picked up a CZ612 from Rural King - $299. Also made in Turkey, but CZ usually don't put their name on junk. Just a basic pump but it handles & shoots good. Already have Mossberg 500's, Rem 870's & Savages.
Your antique remington is the spitting image of an Ithaca 37. The cut and threaded muzzle is typical "polychoke" of the 50s mod, pretty sure they sold both fixed choke sets and the adjustable polychoke system (both so your single barrel could adapt to any sporting situation from close quarters brush bunnies to clay busting on a range)
I mean it's a pump 12 I've never shot one that hasn't kicked liked hell. I've owned mine since I was 12 and it's never bothered me so I wouldn't see a issue with it.
Nice video bro the tri-star from turkey looked interesting not sure about the pump action that could take getting some used to but a cool looking shotgun I know this one is in budget but what do you think about the 870 tech 14 brace just wanted your opinion on it thanks .
Snagged a mossberg 590SP from a dude here locally. Paid $500 and got 80 federal 3" slugs and 20 3" magnum 00. Such a steal! Have since configured it to my own liking. Just love it.
That oldie but goodie was probably manufactured for sears or something. And that external choke was probably a cure for a split barrel. I had an old single shot done like that. A short barrel makes for a fast bird gun.
Bought a Citadel warthog recently, works pretty good as long as you use high brass ammo, low brass once in awhile , doesn't always work not a bad gun. I did gas it up now it works pretty good with low brass ammo , drilled out the gas ports about 10 thousandths.
The external screw on choke was probably added to the Remington in the 70s. Winchester developed the interchangeable choke in 1959, they had some issues. In 1969 Winchester came out with the Winchoke system, which ushered in the interchangeable choke era. Retrofits like that one were attempts to update older shotguns. I think patents prevented others from using the internal choke tubes until the mid 80s, which is why the barrel was threaded externally and why companies marketed other options.
The H&R Pardner pump is a really good budget shotgun. Can take most parts from a Remington 870 except the barrel. I took mine and added parts for a Remington 870 police.
Just bought a Ria 12 gauge yesterday for 169.99 went to range today fed 75 rounds threw it 25 rounds of 00 buck 25 rounds of #5 and 25 rounds of # 8 not one issue I will say nice pump shot gun for the money
i think that choke is legit 2a im pretty sure had an old shotgun identical to that may be aftermarket but its definately vintage great video im excited my savage 1917 shipped today i got confirmation i hope usps treats it like i would until i get it
I own a Canik Tristar C-100 9 mm. (CZ 75 Compact clone) and I will say it is awesome quality, great features, shoots great, feeds everything I have put in it so far, and cost 200+ less than the CZ. I am sold on Tristar.
I hadn’t thought much and know little about shotguns. Enjoyed your video as usual and liked the TriStar shotgun! I recently picked up a Canik TP9 Elite sc. Sweet 9mm , fantastic trigger and alot extras with it! Anxious to see you shooting those shotguns!
Might want to look at the fedarm pump shotgun at Atlantic Firearms. Nice 12 gauge shoots well light weight and has a higher capacity than the three shown. Best part is the price. I got mine for 199.00
I’ve had or shot all three of these, the maverick was the cheapest for me, just over 200 bucks. Very reliable and works well, although the bluing on mine was pretty weak and thin. By the way, you can remove the spring around the mag tube on the tristar easily if you don’t like the spring assist.
The TriStar ever give you problems? I just bought one and it's misfired a couple times new... Now I'm seeing reviews that it sucks. I don't want to return it.until I'm sure though... I go to this shop a lot.
@@alexstone2047 never gave me any problems. I only had a couple hundred rounds through it before I traded it off though. No particular reason why I traded it other than liking other shotguns in my safe more.
As always a great review 2a. I wasn't in the market for another shorty but was interested in your review. Again great job. Looking forward to the range video. Also really liked your older one - beautiful.
I bought the same Mav88 last year for $150 and added the Moss 500 heat shield, adjustable stock, mini-shell adapter, and rail. It holds 8+1 1 3/4 shells and is the perfect home defense weapon for less than $220!
I have bought and sold over 20 Mossberg pumps (Mavericks and 500s) in the last four years. They are very durable and trouble-free. The only single thing I cannot like is the safety location on the Mav., but that is a personal thing. They just work, and when or if you need parts they are VERY CHEAP and available everywhere.
Maverick of these choices. If you go a bit more you can get the Mossberg 500 that’s a little nicer. The maverick is quality for the price and will last you a lifetime.
I own the 88, and have no issues with it, other than Mossberg continually being out of stock on the 18.5" barrel (mine has the original 28"). I also bought the Tri-Star Cobra III recently, but without the pistol grip. Great gun, especially for the price! My arms are long enough to comfortably reach the forearm action (I'm 6'5"), but I did remove the action-return spring. It seemed like a nice bonus feature in the beginning, but I found myself short-stoking the rounds more often than I liked. My New Years resolution this year was to avoid buying anything made in China. Call me xenophobic, or just having a problem with handing money over to people that want to destroy us. Good video!
I agree on avoiding purchasing goods from China, but it seems to be getting more difficult by the day. (That Stevens is tempting, but the Tristar seems just as good).
@@lostmule6917 I liked my first RIA / Derya / ATI ... So much that I bought 2 more It bugged the FFL Because he couldn't figure what brand it's supposed to be Now I have 2 SAs and a pump Edit : SA = Semi Auto I like the Semi, but I haven't succeeded at getting it to feed handloads reliably yet RIA (Rock Island Armory) also makes some handguns that are decent and priced affordably I may buy one of their 1911 clones
There is nothing like the sound of racking a round into a shotgun!....it instills fear into a burglar, I know it does,I caught someone along time ago stealing stereos out of our cars in out apartment garage I racked the shotgun and he pissed allover himself. Had him on the ground and screwed the barrel into his ear, told him not to move. The police came and they knew him by his first name,they asked if it was loaded I unloaded it and picked up the shotgun slug and told the guy I will have his name on it and to come on back !
I just got a Iver Johnson HP18 semi-auto, 18.5" 12ga. Turkish made also ..385.00....i plan on shooting it for the first time this week, my first shotgun too! Pistol grip with a removable buttstock! I can't wait! I was hoping it was going to be one of these...👍👍 Can't wait for the follow up!!
I just bought a Charles Daly Semi Auto 12 ga. and it is a Good gun for 499.00. It has a choke tube so you can adjust the pattern of what ever 2and three quarter or three inch rounds you shoot. It uses Beretta tubes. It is an AR style gun with an 18.5 inch barrel and is made in Turkey and imported by Chiapa.
Just picked up the TriStar it felt very ergonomic besides the long buttstock. Very nice that you can add accessories. The spring was the first thing to go I didn't like the return action on the forend.
The maverick 88 is a 500 with a different fire control group. That is the only part that is not interchangeable. The forend is pinned so if you want to swap it, you’ll have to put a 500 action bar assembly on it. They are also available with 7 shot tubes. H&R Pardner pump is another solid budget shotgun option. It’s an all steel 870 clone. It’s parkerized. It has mag tube extensions available. It sure what those run now. I paid $200 for mine 5 or 6 years ago.
I’ve rolled more deer with the Maverick I bought and have never not liked it. It was stolen and I never got it back but close 30 years of taking game. I found another for 150. at a local pawn shop bought and baptized it with two deer the same evening. You just can’t beat the price they run and dependability.
Went to my local store and they had no mossbergs. I ended up going with the tri star combat 3 marine. So far i like it and really do like that assisted pump feature
You're right I think that one was put on by an owner but it's very similar an appearance from what I can see of it to an A&W diverter muzzle device looks to be permanently attached from what I can see I would say it's from somewhere with a regulation against removable muzzle devices
You should have included the H&R Pardner Pump Protector. Can't beat it for the price. A made in China Clone of the Remington 870 and in some ways a better build: steel receiver, thicker barrel, dual action bars. Also sold under the NEF brand. Price tag pre-covid was around $150. Some, but not all parts are interchangeable with the Remington 870.
I bought a Stevens 350 a couple of years ago which also ejects out the bottom. It is a bit heavier than my Mossberg Maverick but the Maverick does take the mini shells(00 buck) which I keep in the house for security. I like them both.
The Charles Daly 301 is just like the TriStar, but doesn’t have the forward assist spring on the pump. They have models with and without the pistol grip. I got one that came with a nice grey cerakote finish.
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How is a shotgun accurate if the bullets/bbs spread??
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 They are not bullets/bb's they are "shot" or a slug or a Sabo round if a single projectile. As to accuracy, the quality of the barrel, the choke, and other factors lead to accuracy of pattern. Perhaps some time actually shooting one would help you understand.
@@gailmrutland6508 i do shoot shotguns every year im Alaskan native i bird hunt every year
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 patterns well
Thanks for your endorsement, Gailm!
Mav 88 is the best choice for me, and not just because I already have one. It has the same mechanism as the Mossberg 500 and Mossberg 590. Most of the parts are interchangeable, but since the Mav 88 doesn't come drilled and tapped you can't use the picatinny rails that are ready for the 500/590, but plenty of options exist for the Mav 88 alone! Mav 88 is the Ford, the Mossberg 500 is the Mercury and the Mossberg 590 is the Lincoln.
Thanks. I think I'm going to go with the Mossberg. I've recently been in the market for a new shotgun. Trying to keep our friend Joe happy ✌️😁👍
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I love my Maverick 88
For anyone looking at sub 300 dollar pumps, I recommend the EAA Churchill. It’s a CZ 612 clone and comes with ghost ring, pic rails and pistol grip with threaded Benelli choke tube. It has the smoothest action of all the budget shotguns I tried and it runs like a top.
from my understanding, it is the CZ612. The CZ was apparently made in turkey by the same company.
I own a EAA Churchill 612 TAC and love it. The saw toothed breacher choke looks cool.
I got the Akkar Churchill 612 tactical and it is a heck of a shotgun. I just ordered the cz612 mag +2 extension so that’ll get me up to 7 +1.
I have a Savage Stevens 320 security, the one thig that I found out about it after getting it. There is not much add-ons to get for it, but I still like it and still go out to the range and shoot it.
Any pump shotgun is worth it PERIOD! Best bang for the buck.
The Chinese made a copy of the 870 for years....total POS. That's the only exception to your rule that I know of.
@@mattpeacock5208 if you're referring to the HAWK clone I own one and its been very reliable and ive had it since the mid to late 90's. Can't speak for all of them but mine works great. It does not compare to a Remington 870 and i have a few of those as well. But they cost considerably more. I wouldnt hesitate to use my HAWK in self defense tho.
@@dsanderspnw4984 thankyou for your insight. My bro had a different experience, but new fresh opinions are a good thing. Thanks again.
Can't go wrong with a moss
If I only had one gun, a shotgun is hard to beat.
Got the Tristar Cobra 3 Force for an amazing price of $83 plus shipping new on a special deal and so far love it. Love the spring for auto return if the forearm and it didn't mess me up so leaving the spring in as is. I bought fir home defense and the less than 7 lb of weight as well. The only thing I'm adding is a flashlight / green laser combo for under the barrel in case of low or no light conditions. Lastly I've put through all kinds of loads with no issues so it's not picky on loads like some are. Extremely pleased
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20+ years ago I bought a Mossberg 500 Slugger combo. Love it and have 0 issues with it. 10+ years ago got a H&R youth model 20gauge pump specifically for basement home defense. Well pleased and confident with either.
The Maverick has been a beast since it came out. My youngest daughter took her first buck with the Maverick in 2003 @13. Your Remington shotgun could be either a Remington "UMC" model 1909 or model 10 less then 4000 were made. Dates around 1909, the Model 10-A had a wooden heat shield on it used in WWI if the original barrel is around 20" it is definitely a Model 10 A. The end piece is a Lyman Cutts Compensator I believe. I've have owned both models that were handed down to me in the 70's
You still have to let go and regrab the pump.Wasted time cocking gun again.Gun no 3.
god bless the hard working blue collar man thank you for the excellent reviews on equipment to keep our self presservation
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Gotta compliment your laid back and humble attitude on this review
Thank you!
I recently went out to buy the Mossberg 88 but, sitting right next to it for only $30 more was a Dickinson XX3D-M2 Tactical pistol grip 12 gauge pump. Originally manufactured in Turkey, it has so many features that I couldn't resist. It resembles that Tristar very much but with even more goodies! Here's the list; ghost ring rear sight with fiber optic front sight, Marine finnish in silver cerakote, picatinny rail on top for optics & rail on forend for lights, med soft rubber pistol grip, heat shield down the 20" barrel, extra large rubber recoil pad & built in 12 gauge shell holder on the stock. The choke is a door breeching compensator combo & it's got 2 sling mounts, front swivel mount is on the magazine tube cap so that it doesn't interfere with the forend or your tack light. Regular style pump action, no return asist. Saftey & release located the same as the Tristar. I think that about sums it up.
I'm so glad you decided to post this! Love it! I love my maverick 88, after adding an ATI shotforce pistol grip stock combo I run into the same issue as the Steven's model where the slide action button is in a position that is not easy to use.
The Mossberg gets it's name Maverick from the name of the county in Texas where it's made. The factory is in Eagle Pass, Tx and the "88" refers to the year of inception. 1988.
Thanks for the info!
Of the three probably the mossy. Personally I went with the Rem 870 Tactical. 7round 18". Tried & proven. Super easy to work on, reliable & tons of available accessories
Rem 870 TAC 14 all day long!
First time I have seen one of your videos....very informative and grassroots review. If I may, take a look at this combination... a Mav 88, with an OPSol Flex adapter, and minishells from Aguila, Challenger or Federal. We designed this combination specifically for our wives and daughter, who would not shoot even low recoil target rounds. Just did some practicing last night with the Mav, the 59A1, and the Shockwave.
For me, until you run 9 minishells fast through a Shockwave with brace, you don't really understand how compact and comfortable it feels. The Shockwave came out 1 year after we put some adapters in Mossberg's hands, and they specifically promoted the firearm with the adapter at Shot Show 2017.
There are lots of good shotguns, and everyone has an opinion. But only the Mossys can really run minis well, with the adapter. And yes, we have extensively looked at 870s and 1300s, but they have loading features that create issues for minis, separate from what our adapter does.
Home defense is a family effort.
I recently picked up a Winchester SXP 12 gauge pump for $299. It is functionally similar to the classic Winchester Model 12/25 shotguns, but is made in Turkey. The quality of Turkish firearms are getting getting positive reviews, especially shotguns. This one is built like a tank. I am very impressed with this shotgun at this price. @2a Edu love these kind of videos - keep up the good work!
My friend has that one it's well built
Mossberg like Ruger takes care of people for a reasonable price for a quality product
I Love my Mossy Mav88. I initially paid $139 for it maybe 10 years ago, bought a collapsible AR type buttstock/ pistol grip kit, and railed forend for it. And of course, a shot shell sling...because what's a long gun without a sling? Got a flashlight mounted up front for the "things that go bump in the night". 👍🏻
that tristar cobra 3 is an exact replica of my Webley&Scott shotgun(or vise-versa) aand its been a great shotgun,and ive added a 7 shot mag extension to mine, it uses the Benelli nova/Super nova extensions, and the chokes are Benelli/Beretta mobile
Thanks for the extra treat at the end,
I do like you humble and straight presentation, you very relatable also like tactical XL. Keep pumping out the vids and I keep watching !
Ken in OKC
I am really really liking that Tristar Cobra 🐍!!! Finish looks great and loving that spring system!
Love my Stevens 320. Bought it to use as a ranch gun to throw in the side by side and couldn’t be happier with it. I actually really enjoy the ghost rings on it.
Love the bottom eject! I had an Ithaca model 37 Featherlight it was great! I shoot left handed so bottom eject works for me!
I like the 37 too!
I remember when the Maverick 88 was around $100. About a year and a half ago, so, not that long. Wow, times have changed quickly.
The Maverick 88 hasn't been that cheap for MANY years.
Yeah I don’t remember those prices at all.
Alright, alright, was going off memory. Under $200 is probably more accurate. Never bought one or seriously shopped for one. But, now that y'all mention it, I think around $200 is more accurate for the year and a half ago price. But, still, a huge jump in current times
@@patricjft glad you caught yourself and corrected the amount......Maverick 88 is an economy Mossberg Model 500, and every bit as good besides the crossbolt safety as to tang mounted.
@@christopherbishop4927 everybody else caught me, actually. But, all good. Never mind being corrected when I am wrong.
She is a Remington model 29 my grandpa had one just like it
Exactly! You are one of the few who guessed right so far.
2:11 When you walk into the basement of a home you just broke into
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I was thinking almost the same thing 😂
I thought the same ... wuajajajaja
New 2aEdu video! Pumped!
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Looking forward to seeing how the Turk does on the range. Nice selection, I have a Mossy and the son-out-law has the Stevens 320.
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New to channel. Really enjoyed getting right into the guns. Humble, truthful, regular people. Want to listen and write down info provided. I'm not a big gun knowledge guy. Hunting and fishing in the northwest all my life. Thank You.
Awesome! I have done lots of videos to help new gun owners. I hope you find them useful! Good luck and be safe out there.
Off the bat I'm leaning moss. But I'm intrigued by the trip.
Thanks for the video buddy I know you said you were debating but screw them can’t let them win plus you do great videos we love to watch ✊have fun at the range and stay safe
I don't know. The spring assist on that Turkish shotty seems sluggish and slow. Maybe after break in it will be better. However, the price point is fair and thumbs up on the chrome chamber and barrel.
Well I actually just bought one a few days ago and u can take the spring out of the pump completely to make it a normal pump u simple pull off your tube bolt and pull of your pump and barrel and the spring is around the tube and u can take it out and put your barrel and pump handle back on in 10 seconds so u can have best of both world with the tristar
I have a Mav 88 and a few Stoegers and love them all. Shottys are always a great choice and price and availability is good too
I've only got one shotgun and have two #7's followed by three OO Buck for home defense. If two shots don't get them to understand then the last three can cut them down^^
88 Great! $139 in 2002
@@durango8882 189 still at academy
I love the Maverick 88. It hasnt been available since the world fell apart. I did purchase the Churchill 612. Excellent weapon made by Akkar. 268 total.
The maverick 88 was my first gun. I got the one with the 28" barrel. Real smooth shooter. All of these are pretty sharp though 12 gauges is what kinda got me into firearms. Can't beat a 12 gauge
That is cool! I am going to do an upgrades video on the Maverick soon.
I got an Ati 12 gauge, but love the 88 way better. Now I want a 20 just for the fun of it.
I have the RIA VRPA-40 and friggin love it. Tons of fun to shoot and the magazine fed part adds to the "cool" factor imo.
The Stevens 320 is a copy of the old Winchester 1200/1300 action.
While it appears to have been dropped from their catalog Stevens also had a Model 350. Which was a clone of the Ithaca Model 37.
Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.
Thanks for review, Mossberg and TriStar👍
The 88 , the 500 and 590 was and is hard to find in stock , so I bought a Escort Slugger for $175.00 .it Looks kind of like a Benelli Super Nova. It works and is smooth cycling .
Come down to Houston we have guns now.
@Tony Rebel And we need them, lol. Lived in Houston my whole life, since 53. Northside.
I got some deals years ago on different 12 gauge shotguns, Mossberg made a bolt action 12 gauge with an internal magazine that is pretty handy.
That's cool. I have a sears bolt action shotgun.
I recently bought a Fedarm 12 gauge pump 7+1 for 2 bills from Atlantic Firearms. I haven’t found any bad reviews on it or heard any negatives about it. I’m picking it up tomorrow from my FFL.
That third one reminds me of the TR RZ17 Tactical. It might be the same manufacturer.
Bought the same one and it shoots well. no issues, satisfied. The Maverick is a great home defense gun.
Perfect timing, I needed some good suggestions for a lightweight home defender for my mom. Thanks 2A!
Happy to help! No prob 👍
@@2aEdu nice vid bro... Just picked up the JTS AK12 T1... Needed a shotgun... But u inspired me to try an AK.... This what I came up with 😂 ... Boom AK12 😂
Drewmac see if you can get it in 20ga for mom less recoil .
To be truthful, the Turkish shot gun is not bad at all. The Tristar company makes a good shot gun for the buck, I own a Tristar Raptor semi automatic for the past three in a half years and never had a problem with it after the proper break in and cleaning. Then I modified the stock with ATI adjustable stock and put on MAGPUL front and rear flip up sights and I just love it. Plus there is a lot of support from CZcamsrs who own the same shot gun and it was very helpful . This is just my opinion, but the Tristar line is pretty damn good for what you pay for !
Great video, love the Mav 88...my first was the same Security model in the video...the rest were the 20" 7+1 models...love the extra shell capacity. Extras are mainly for others to shoot, throw in the Opsol adapter...and even kids can shoot the mini shells.
I actually have a Security 88 (Adaptive Tactical Sidewinder) and I love it. Not sure if I would like the TriStar.......send it to me and I'll let you know.......lol
Another great video! My fav of those would be the TriStar. I might actually pick one up because the spring assist is interesting. I’d like to add the Omega p12 as a good budget buy.
I fkn love mine. Perfect for pheasant and duck. Had a blast with it last season. Getting ready to rock it again
I just picked up a CZ612 from Rural King - $299. Also made in Turkey, but CZ usually don't put their name on junk. Just a basic pump but it handles & shoots good. Already have Mossberg 500's, Rem 870's & Savages.
Your antique remington is the spitting image of an Ithaca 37. The cut and threaded muzzle is typical "polychoke" of the 50s mod, pretty sure they sold both fixed choke sets and the adjustable polychoke system (both so your single barrel could adapt to any sporting situation from close quarters brush bunnies to clay busting on a range)
The Maverick “ very light weight” which means it kicks like a mule.
It is light, but didn't bother me to shoot it.
Yep... light weight and "kills on both ends"...lol.
I mean it's a pump 12 I've never shot one that hasn't kicked liked hell. I've owned mine since I was 12 and it's never bothered me so I wouldn't see a issue with it.
The felt recoil is negligible due to the very good pad at the end of the stock.
@@mooneyclan Thanks
Nice video bro the tri-star from turkey looked interesting not sure about the pump action that could take getting some used to but a cool looking shotgun I know this one is in budget but what do you think about the 870 tech 14 brace just wanted your opinion on it thanks .
The pump action is very easy and good enough for and old granny to use! Haa really!!
Snagged a mossberg 590SP from a dude here locally. Paid $500 and got 80 federal 3" slugs and 20 3" magnum 00. Such a steal! Have since configured it to my own liking. Just love it.
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That oldie but goodie was probably manufactured for sears or something. And that external choke was probably a cure for a split barrel. I had an old single shot done like that.
A short barrel makes for a fast bird gun.
Oh yes that Chrome lined barrel has my vote. But I hate plastic furniture on a gun. A nice hardwood gets my vote every time.
Of the three, I would get the Mossberg. It's proven and parts are everywhere and easy to change without a gunsmith.
The 88 is $199.99 at academy when they have them in stock
Bought a Citadel warthog recently, works pretty good as long as you use high brass ammo, low brass once in awhile , doesn't always work not a bad gun. I did gas it up now it works pretty good with low brass ammo , drilled out the gas ports about 10 thousandths.
Good idea with increasing the gas
The external screw on choke was probably added to the Remington in the 70s. Winchester developed the interchangeable choke in 1959, they had some issues. In 1969 Winchester came out with the Winchoke system, which ushered in the interchangeable choke era. Retrofits like that one were attempts to update older shotguns. I think patents prevented others from using the internal choke tubes until the mid 80s, which is why the barrel was threaded externally and why companies marketed other options.
Thanks for the info
The H&R Pardner pump is a really good budget shotgun. Can take most parts from a Remington 870 except the barrel. I took mine and added parts for a Remington 870 police.
It sucks but H&R went out of business awhile back. I loved there shotguns..
I just bought a Tri-star Cobra III and a 20"/8+1 Maverick 88 this last year. Both are great shotguns. Great video mate. Keep up the fantastic work.
Just bought a Ria 12 gauge yesterday for 169.99 went to range today fed 75 rounds threw it 25 rounds of 00 buck 25 rounds of #5 and 25 rounds of # 8 not one issue I will say nice pump shot gun for the money
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I’ve always heard great things about the maverick, so I got one. It works great with high base brass. Will not extract the low brass at all.
i think that choke is legit 2a im pretty sure had an old shotgun identical to that may be aftermarket but its definately vintage great video im excited my savage 1917 shipped today i got confirmation i hope usps treats it like i would until i get it
I don't believe that I own a Turkish Gun, but Among those 3, I like the Turkish one the Best!
I bought a couple this year just because they were so cheap ( under $200) but I’ve been very happy with the fit & finish and operation.
Turks made some fine guns
Turkish taffy tastes like ice cream
I own a Turkish shotgun similar to #3 and love it
I own a Canik Tristar C-100 9 mm. (CZ 75 Compact clone) and I will say it is awesome quality, great features, shoots great, feeds everything I have put in it so far, and cost 200+ less than the CZ. I am sold on Tristar.
I hadn’t thought much and know little about shotguns. Enjoyed your video as usual and liked the TriStar shotgun! I recently picked up a Canik TP9 Elite sc. Sweet 9mm , fantastic trigger and alot extras with it! Anxious to see you shooting those shotguns!
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Of all my pistols I have to say the Elite sc is my fav.
Might want to look at the fedarm pump shotgun at Atlantic Firearms. Nice 12 gauge shoots well light weight and has a higher capacity than the three shown. Best part is the price. I got mine for 199.00
I’ve had or shot all three of these, the maverick was the cheapest for me, just over 200 bucks. Very reliable and works well, although the bluing on mine was pretty weak and thin. By the way, you can remove the spring around the mag tube on the tristar easily if you don’t like the spring assist.
The TriStar ever give you problems? I just bought one and it's misfired a couple times new... Now I'm seeing reviews that it sucks. I don't want to return it.until I'm sure though... I go to this shop a lot.
@@alexstone2047 never gave me any problems. I only had a couple hundred rounds through it before I traded it off though. No particular reason why I traded it other than liking other shotguns in my safe more.
@@darink300zx thanks for the response brother it's much appreciated!
As always a great review 2a. I wasn't in the market for another shorty but was interested in your review. Again great job. Looking forward to the range video. Also really liked your older one - beautiful.
Thank you!
I have the 20in maverick. Loaded with 12 mini shells and cycles great with the apsol adapter
Another nice thing about a shotgun is that even during the shortages of of the pandemic, I could always find a decent supply of ammunition.
True!
One plus for the Mossberg is being able to install the rubber Opsal adapter so you can reliably use those Aguila mini shells...
That is a cool plus!
Do the mini shells have less recoil?
I bought the same Mav88 last year for $150 and added the Moss 500 heat shield, adjustable stock, mini-shell adapter, and rail. It holds 8+1 1 3/4 shells and is the perfect home defense weapon for less than $220!
I have the same one
I miss my old pistol grip 870. 7 and 1. That sucker was a beast
Shotguns are not drop safe. Do NOT store with one in the chamber - just not worth it!
The Stevens is patterned after the Winchester 1300 in some ways and both will feed mini shells assuming the gun is a reliable one to start with.
I have bought and sold over 20 Mossberg pumps (Mavericks and 500s) in the last four years.
They are very durable and trouble-free.
The only single thing I cannot like is the safety location on the Mav., but that is a personal thing. They just work, and when or if you need parts they are VERY CHEAP and available everywhere.
I'm really enjoying your videos. Informative, down to earth good work my good man.
Thank you! I appreciate the encouragement.
Maverick of these choices. If you go a bit more you can get the Mossberg 500 that’s a little nicer.
The maverick is quality for the price and will last you a lifetime.
I own the 88, and have no issues with it, other than Mossberg continually being out of stock on the 18.5" barrel (mine has the original 28"). I also bought the Tri-Star Cobra III recently, but without the pistol grip. Great gun, especially for the price! My arms are long enough to comfortably reach the forearm action (I'm 6'5"), but I did remove the action-return spring. It seemed like a nice bonus feature in the beginning, but I found myself short-stoking the rounds more often than I liked. My New Years resolution this year was to avoid buying anything made in China. Call me xenophobic, or just having a problem with handing money over to people that want to destroy us.
Good video!
I agree on avoiding purchasing goods from China, but it seems to be getting more difficult by the day. (That Stevens is tempting, but the Tristar seems just as good).
My dad has a Tri-Star over under and I was pretty impressed with the quality.
Mossberg pumps are awesome,, no nonsense, dependable, lasts ,tons of accessories available for cheap, bad to the bone in 12 or 20 ✌️
I'd like the tristar more detail boss
You just sold me on that Turkish Shotgun. Thanks for the info.
I believe the Turkish one is also sold under the name American tactical. I have one and it looks exactly the same
I got one - The muzzle brake is functional no doubt
Model 31. Bottom ejected
Just picked up the shotgun from my FFL.
Very impressed!
@@lostmule6917 I liked my first RIA / Derya / ATI ... So much that I bought 2 more
It bugged the FFL Because he couldn't figure what brand it's supposed to be
Now I have 2 SAs and a pump
Edit : SA = Semi Auto
I like the Semi, but I haven't succeeded at getting it to feed handloads reliably yet
RIA (Rock Island Armory) also makes some handguns that are decent and priced affordably
I may buy one of their 1911 clones
Remington Arms Model 17 , of John Moses Browning design. That is where the bottom eject came from.... same as some Browning BPS shotguns... ;-)
Pamalo state armory has a g force pump for 140 dollars right now. Very good beater shotgun
If you combine American made,.... Anything then we definitely should! Especially no Chinese made.
There is nothing like the sound of racking a round into a shotgun!....it instills fear into a burglar, I know it does,I caught someone along time ago stealing stereos out of our cars in out apartment garage I racked the shotgun and he pissed allover himself. Had him on the ground and screwed the barrel into his ear, told him not to move. The police came and they knew him by his first name,they asked if it was loaded I unloaded it and picked up the shotgun slug and told the guy I will have his name on it and to come on back !
I just got a Iver Johnson HP18 semi-auto, 18.5" 12ga. Turkish made also ..385.00....i plan on shooting it for the first time this week, my first shotgun too! Pistol grip with a removable buttstock! I can't wait! I was hoping it was going to be one of these...👍👍
Can't wait for the follow up!!
I just bought a Charles Daly Semi Auto 12 ga. and it is a Good gun for 499.00. It has a choke tube so you can adjust the pattern of what ever 2and three quarter or three inch rounds you shoot. It uses Beretta tubes. It is an AR style gun with an 18.5 inch barrel and is made in Turkey and imported by Chiapa.
I have the Maverick 88 Security pump that holds 8 rds. Love it.
How did you make your maverick 8 rounds I have one an don't know how
@@HAVOK-xh1yo it came that way. Security pump 88
I've got a Boito O/U, Mossberg 500. Both 12 gauge. I'm happy with both.
Just picked up the TriStar it felt very ergonomic besides the long buttstock. Very nice that you can add accessories. The spring was the first thing to go I didn't like the return action on the forend.
The maverick 88 is a 500 with a different fire control group. That is the only part that is not interchangeable. The forend is pinned so if you want to swap it, you’ll have to put a 500 action bar assembly on it. They are also available with 7 shot tubes. H&R Pardner pump is another solid budget shotgun option. It’s an all steel 870 clone. It’s parkerized. It has mag tube extensions available. It sure what those run now. I paid $200 for mine 5 or 6 years ago.
Bro they don't sell the H&R pardner shotgun anymore. Unless buying it used.. it's a shame but H&R went out of business awhile back :(.
I’ve rolled more deer with the Maverick I bought and have never not liked it. It was stolen and I never got it back but close 30 years of taking game. I found another for 150. at a local pawn shop bought and baptized it with two deer the same evening. You just can’t beat the price they run and dependability.
Damn straight bro
Went to my local store and they had no mossbergs. I ended up going with the tri star combat 3 marine. So far i like it and really do like that assisted pump feature
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You're right I think that one was put on by an owner but it's very similar an appearance from what I can see of it to an A&W diverter muzzle device looks to be permanently attached from what I can see I would say it's from somewhere with a regulation against removable muzzle devices
I apologize for swarming you with comments last one and my last guess is it's a flash hider
You should have included the H&R Pardner Pump Protector.
Can't beat it for the price. A made in China Clone of the Remington 870 and in some ways a better build: steel receiver, thicker barrel, dual action bars.
Also sold under the NEF brand.
Price tag pre-covid was around $150.
Some, but not all parts are interchangeable with the Remington 870.
Turkey does make pretty good firearms. The trigger on the Canik is REALLY good for a stock trigger.
Are the Hatfields that are sold by Walmart complete junk, or are they worth buying?
I bought a Stevens 350 a couple of years ago which also ejects out the bottom. It is a bit heavier than my Mossberg Maverick but the Maverick does take the mini shells(00 buck) which I keep in the house for security. I like them both.
The Charles Daly 301 is just like the TriStar, but doesn’t have the forward assist spring on the pump. They have models with and without the pistol grip. I got one that came with a nice grey cerakote finish.
mine is branded Webley&scott, and i eventually removed my assit spring
Remington Model 10, it's the one used in the bi-wing planes. Slam Fires, breaks down and fits in a backpack