The Risk Of Buying Magic: The Gathering On Amazon

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 2 lety +146

    The Forgotten Ways To Play Magic: The Gathering: czcams.com/video/IyqoM5Pmu5o/video.html

    • @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
      @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Před rokem

      But its a crap mythic! Do they have a way to see inside the packs these days?

    • @richardgesegnet5481
      @richardgesegnet5481 Před rokem

      Check the glue on the packageS. Magic has a unique gluing mark

    • @etchexiledangel883
      @etchexiledangel883 Před rokem

      to be fair, it was wiser to have the little bit of sadness of opening and finding it was ok, then go to sit and play draft and getting burned badly

  • @Scania114AzulGelo
    @Scania114AzulGelo Před 2 lety +2392

    Let's just all agree, this video is just the ultimate proof that the Professor is simply an outstanding content creator and human being. Sincerity, a strong moral compass and charity. I'm really casual on the MTG hobby, but watching the Professor is what keeps my tie with it strong, because it mantains my faith in this community!

    • @LoveStrangeDr
      @LoveStrangeDr Před 2 lety +18

      I mean it’s easy/popular to punch down on Amazon. Plus in case you haven’t noticed, he’s had disdain for Amazon for years now. I’ve personally bought boxes from Amazon and never had a problem. Either way, the profs evidence is anecdotal at best, he just has an audience to talk about it.

    • @andxi1919
      @andxi1919 Před 2 lety +16

      Honesty and integrity two qualities sadly lacking everywhere except Tolarian Community College

    • @skillganon606
      @skillganon606 Před 2 lety +5

      @@LoveStrangeDr considering WOTC is selling packs at 250% of thier price I can't blame the scalper for taking the easy way out. Not sure if there was enough money in the normal sets because this never happened to me buying those.

    • @Scania114AzulGelo
      @Scania114AzulGelo Před 2 lety +20

      @@LoveStrangeDr I mean, if you are someone connected with any concept of worker's rights (as the Prof is) or any labour causes you don't talk about Amazon because it's trendy, you do it based on real concern, so that's fair, right? There is reason for possible concern regarding the topic, let people become aware of that, there's no fault in being cautious.

    • @Scania114AzulGelo
      @Scania114AzulGelo Před 2 lety +11

      @@changthao4875 I, mean, I know he's not a god? It's exactly because he's human that I took the time to craft this comment, he is really insecure about this topic and this video is very clearly an uncomfortable one for him. I'm just showing some empathy so, in case he reads this, it helps him feel a little better, you know, because he was so open about it.

  • @hmchem2092
    @hmchem2092 Před 2 lety +1441

    That message: "You should never accept less than what you deserve!"
    It fits so many situations, and watching your videos show that Prof. You're awesome!

    • @skillganon606
      @skillganon606 Před 2 lety +12

      That's why I tell people not to buy collectors or masters boxes. The cost to print the cards didn't increase, so WOTC is just ripping thier customers off.

    • @Unlockingparadoxes
      @Unlockingparadoxes Před 2 lety +1

      Very much agreed. Thankyou for what you do professor. We love you and your content and insight.

    • @Lucat27
      @Lucat27 Před 2 lety +3

      He might need to work on it a bit more. It’s the same mentality that Karen’s use

    • @altereon8529
      @altereon8529 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Lucat27 maybe we should add to this sentence: First reconsider what you do to deserve what you deserve

    • @tttyyy949
      @tttyyy949 Před 2 lety +2

      @@skillganon606 if you consider the cost of printing cards you shouldn't buy any of the products.

  • @CynicalLight
    @CynicalLight Před 2 lety +919

    As an Amazon employee let me explain, Items are treated roughly. Yeah, I know. Warehouse employees are under so much pressure to increase speed and productivity that items are flying all over the place and smashed in totes. There's no incentive to handle anything with care and I've seen pop figures and magic cards get knocked right out of a shelf because more products were being shoved through the other side without any thought. Also, if you're buying from a third party seller make sure you read the refund policy and inspect the products thoroughly. It might feel awful not getting what you wanted, but knowing you can get your money back helps a little.

    • @Soulryu11
      @Soulryu11 Před 2 lety +158

      @@RavenDeathKnight sounds like the company should care more. Employees trying to show more care are just going slower and not meeting the needs of the company and in turn reprimanded or fired. What is an employee going to care more about? Their livelihood or the fact that they know the customer wants this in good hands?

    • @Soulryu11
      @Soulryu11 Před 2 lety +111

      @@RavenDeathKnight it’s not that I don’t care about work ethic, but that has to start from the top of the chain, not from the bottom. But telling an employee that has no control over it that they need to better themselves at the job ain’t going to a thing.

    • @Soulryu11
      @Soulryu11 Před 2 lety +94

      @@RavenDeathKnight did you read the rest of it? It’s like that because their bosses care more about productivity which in turns puts the pressure on the rest of the assembly line. Poor work conditions mixed with a high demand of productivity is going to get you what Amazon has.

    • @Soulryu11
      @Soulryu11 Před 2 lety +99

      @@RavenDeathKnight yea it’s like arguing with a flat earther. Go work for one of those companies and see for yourself.

    • @I_Punch_Demons
      @I_Punch_Demons Před 2 lety +15

      Not an excuse. I get it your boss sucks, your job sucks, your owner sucks. But punishing the customer for your malcontent for the pressure you are under instead of staging mass walkouts, protests and focusing your malcontent on those in power is just a sophomoric response to a systemic problem.
      Do your job or don't. It's not the consumer fault you don't have the tools.
      Quitting may not be an option but organizing is.

  • @zombieslayer2016
    @zombieslayer2016 Před rokem +233

    honestly the fact that the first box was legit and you still opened all of it was very respectable in my eyes...if i ever decide to start seriously getting into magic ill keep this channel in mind

    • @JEST3R_
      @JEST3R_ Před rokem +20

      This is the best mtg channel on CZcams

    • @RevanReborn3950BBY
      @RevanReborn3950BBY Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@JEST3R_except maybe the brewers kitchen videos on mtggolfish

    • @Cosmosis462
      @Cosmosis462 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Yugioh player here, never played magic don't intend to but Profs personality is really entertaining to watch especially during games.

    • @de_anubis
      @de_anubis Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Cosmosis462 I'm not even playing any TCG at the moment but I still watch his videos. Never played magic before either.

  • @blacklancejeo6625
    @blacklancejeo6625 Před 2 lety +226

    Sometimes the box is just damaged but the packs are intact.
    The box “died” to save those packs for you prof.

    • @tristancaver4836
      @tristancaver4836 Před 2 lety +6

      I bought two Commander Legends boxes and they didn't show up in the best of condition (this was before all the scam nonsense). I had great pulls. Practically everything but a Mana Drain.

    • @lenia272
      @lenia272 Před 2 lety +3

      i mean thats the point of the box and im very glad to see it's doing its intended job. the fact that it got banged and thrown around so much to decimate the box that much and yet all of its contents were still pristine is really a good thing.

  • @Riandr0
    @Riandr0 Před 2 lety +450

    Being embarrassed is fine, mistakes are human, and are the best learning tool. Props to the Prof for the video, not many would admit fault, and to turn it into a PSA, even better.

    • @thejonpearson
      @thejonpearson Před 2 lety

      Exactly this. Couldn't agree more. Almost all of us leaned to walk when we were little by making hundreds of mistakes and falling down, over and over and over. Some folks like Prof haven't forgotten that it's ok to fall when we learn from it.

    • @CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420
      @CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 Před 2 lety +1

      not really a mistake. common sense when shopping online lol. what he said goes for every type of shopping online from all website, even if its from a youtuber linked store. always inspect your product, if it is up to your standards then go for it. if not dont be afraid to return or dont accept product.

  • @bbobjs
    @bbobjs Před 2 lety +259

    There's a big misunderstanding about how Amazon's return process works. Unless the item is returned directly, it's unlikely that the item will return to their main stock. What generally happens is that the items is taken to a drop off location, thrown into a big box and shipped back with a bunch of other items. Most of these boxes are auctioned off without consideration of restocking.

    • @golinart4570
      @golinart4570 Před 2 lety +11

      As far as I know Amazon doesn't take returns for MTG products, at least for product sold and shipped by Amazon themselves. I know 3rd party sellers list their items on amazon and I'm not sure if they accept returns.

    • @iamacharliest
      @iamacharliest Před 2 lety +20

      Actually that's not always accurate. I've received a couple of items which have clearly been sold to other people, returned and then shipped back out. I've had things with batteries installed and they have oxidised *which means it's been sitting with Amazon for a while too* and I've also had things where someone's name etc has been written on with pen. All of these things I've returned and gained a full refund.. but yeah it's not always the case where they Chuck it in a big auction box.

    • @jonbrooks4376
      @jonbrooks4376 Před 2 lety +5

      I ordered an item from Amazon. It was the last of that particular item. I was impatient so I purchased it. It was missing some items.
      They did allow me to return it.

    • @mackerelle9789
      @mackerelle9789 Před rokem +2

      Just hope that your replacement (if they offer one) isn't another bad one. I got sent a defective replacement that was missing parts and was used, and was told that the replacement couldn't be replaced. Wtf

    • @PineapplePinesol
      @PineapplePinesol Před 8 měsíci +2

      I've bought "new" items from Amazon just to get used items. They do recycle items. It's illegal for them to do that but there's really nothing we as a consumer can do and when I called their hotline about it they just gave me a credit.

  • @lavahippo8380
    @lavahippo8380 Před 2 lety +172

    The one upside I see with Amazon’s poor handling of magic products is that it incentivises people to purchase products from local game stores instead. Thanks for bringing this problem to the attention of the community!

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj Před 2 lety +8

      or just dont buy these cards

    • @mirandaperry5245
      @mirandaperry5245 Před 2 lety +2

      I work at Amazon and I will tell you that during packing and shipping your stuff is getting thrown and dropped at least a couple times.

    • @Name-pw3jj
      @Name-pw3jj Před 2 lety +2

      @@orkhepaj but what if you want to

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj Před 2 lety +6

      @@Name-pw3jj get pics from net , copy out to good paper cut it out , finish and play

    • @Name-pw3jj
      @Name-pw3jj Před 2 lety +3

      @@orkhepaj I guess that works, but you might as well just play on untap at that point

  • @joshrosenthal5549
    @joshrosenthal5549 Před 2 lety +61

    "There is no age at which you stop learning."
    -Barrin, Tolarian Archmage

  • @Manny1222
    @Manny1222 Před 2 lety +40

    Working at Amazon for as long as I did, you start to really see the level of... well, general bad stuff that happens there. You would find console game boxes with a cut on their packaging on the side and had their discs and other valuable contents taken out of the case. Eventually those items were left in the "cage" that had much more valuable items; only people with access were allowed in there and every isle had a camera. Thievery is huge at Amazon and I am still convinced that much of it never got caught even when your actions - such as which isles you've been to - were recorded. Life... ugh... finds a way. Thanks for making this entertaining, as always.

    • @Domebuddy
      @Domebuddy Před rokem +2

      What FC did you work at? Sounds awful, There isnt nearly as much shrink at my FC.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 Před rokem +1

      Theres a tale of one amazon subcon distro at where every 3d filament box went missing and they didn't catch it until a vendor put in a gps dongle. You'd think that would be caught with automation flagging to be investigated at amazons side but no, even if such automation should be amazons bread and butter edge. Its like their edge at this point is just dominant market position and f everything else.

    • @msmilder25
      @msmilder25 Před rokem

      to be fair, I bought a DVD from Walmart some ten years ago and discovered later, someone did the same thing...just sliced down the side, took the disc and put the case back on the shelf...and they allowed me to return the empty case for a refund or replacement DVD...which I was grateful for.

  • @brianking7350
    @brianking7350 Před rokem +26

    I don't play this game or collect these cards (my daughter just got into Pokemon so this popped up for me). Just wanted to say your videos are really well done. Great presentation and communication style. Bravo

  • @Thannak
    @Thannak Před 2 lety +198

    “I don’t know the full process of thievery.”
    Professor confirmed not true Dimir.

    • @jackflchen
      @jackflchen Před 2 lety +28

      Or, is that something a true Dimir agent would want you to believe? 🤔

    • @AtriumXP666
      @AtriumXP666 Před 2 lety +3

      I'm wearing my Dimir logo shirt as I'm reading this mwuhahahahaha

    • @unstopable_rob
      @unstopable_rob Před 2 lety +3

      @@AtriumXP666 as a sociopath, the Dimir guild is my favorite guild

    • @CyberBuster93
      @CyberBuster93 Před 2 lety +2

      But the Instructor definitely does! Hehe xD

    • @unstopable_rob
      @unstopable_rob Před 2 lety

      @@CyberBuster93 hey don't say bad things about the Dimir guild

  • @snipser
    @snipser Před 2 lety +64

    “You should never accept less than you deserve.” Is a kick ass quote.

  • @TechSway
    @TechSway Před 2 lety +19

    Honestly, this has been one of my favourite videos to watch. I don't believe that you needed to feel embarrassed, after all, we're only human and we all make mistakes. However, seeing you be genuinely humble, honest and raw is admirable. The fact that you also then ended the video with the charity to your supporters and viewers was amazing to see as it wasn't necessary but again, showed your true character. Keep up the great work!

  • @pacosiner
    @pacosiner Před 2 lety +61

    The pattern on the wrapping that Prof. points out at 8:17 is from the gloves widely used in the warehouse industry. Stretchy cloth polka dotted with rubbery spray on material to protect the hands and provide extra grip. The rubber dots of those gloves fit the pattern shown and are situated on the box where a handler would likely grip the box as they pick it up off of the pallet of hundreds of other draft boxes before hastily tossing it into the shipping box you receive your product in. Mystery solved

  • @OftenAlwaysFresh
    @OftenAlwaysFresh Před 2 lety +107

    Your authenticity is admirable. It takes a big man to apologize when they've made a mistake, glad to see your first box was not a troll. Cheers prof

  • @humanfartbag
    @humanfartbag Před 2 lety +85

    Don’t worry Prof, every Magic: The Gathering Player would ask the question, “...did I just get scammed?” if they received those boxes too.

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 Před 2 lety +11

      Many magic the gathering players ask the question, Did I just get scammed?

    • @alexsweet6957
      @alexsweet6957 Před 2 lety +2

      With how cards are going, people will do anything for a quick buck

    • @rebeccajackson4912
      @rebeccajackson4912 Před 2 lety +1

      I spotted people selling unused magic shrink wrap on etsy but couldn't figure out how to report it

  • @SteelfurSpeaks
    @SteelfurSpeaks Před 2 lety +77

    Professor: "I took all these precautions so you can see video continuity"
    Everyone: "Its okay, we believed you anyway" :D

    • @obeliske4334
      @obeliske4334 Před 2 lety +1

      We might but the dudes trying to sue him to bring it down "wouldn't"

  • @markpope6911
    @markpope6911 Před rokem +11

    Thank you for your honesty and for emphasizing the importance of supporting local venders. I am a brand new MTG player and your channel continues to help me scale the Magic learning curve. What fun!

  • @matthewlandis1034
    @matthewlandis1034 Před 2 lety +35

    One of the most important things I’ve learned from this channel is to not go on Amazon and just take the extra time to stop by my game store to look around and buy stuff there. I just love the irony and how we all still fall victim to ourselves at times. Thank you for the honesty.

    • @Morrodin182
      @Morrodin182 Před 2 lety

      That indeed is the most important lesson. It is even not about Amazon. My girlfriend bought me a Kaldheim bundle when that set was released. She bought it online from another vendor than Amazon and the box also arrived with visible damage. Buy from your LGS if you can avoid ordering online. (also: Most big time e-commerce players like Amazon offer their employees such terrible work conditions, that this an extra reason to try and avoid them.)

  • @ThirdOfNine
    @ThirdOfNine Před 2 lety +153

    I decided to ditch Amazon and only buy from my local stores earlier this year, and these recent videos of people receiving boxes that were either tampered with or extremely damaged has only reinforced my decision. Thanks again, Professor.

    • @devindevore5857
      @devindevore5857 Před 2 lety +1

      Devils advocate here... I think that too, but Prof got out OK! So maybe all the vids are from LGS supporters?🤣😅 jk! Support your local gaming store! I'm pretty rural and have to drive a ways to most! But I found who I could Trust and not Trust

    • @devindevore5857
      @devindevore5857 Před 2 lety

      If only 1 option tho.... well, be careful!

    • @darkmatter7266
      @darkmatter7266 Před 2 lety +7

      I dig supporting your local store but just cuz they are local don’t mean they aren’t snakes. I’ve heard lines like “ we can’t compete w the internet” w a 25% mark up from avg pricing. They act like it’s some sort of worldwide entity that is a competitor yet they look to it to justify their markup.
      This is extremely funny when other local stores have their whole stock of singles on a tcg format and that’s the ONLY way to buy product that isn’t new or displayed outright. Mostly I see phenomenon this happen in places that are a lil past the “brick and mortar” level and look more warehouse-like. In the same fell swoop there has always been a bit of ableism involved w stores of the sort that won’t deliver your purchases( once again the excuse is can’t compete w the boogeyman) which make Amazon a more than viable option caveat emptor of course lol

    • @ThirdOfNine
      @ThirdOfNine Před 2 lety +5

      @@darkmatter7266 my local store's prices are about the same as Ebay/Amazon. Sometimes a little less, sometimes a little more. But they also give away foil promos and other goodies when you buy a box, which doesn't happen when I buy online.

    • @TheDropdeadZed
      @TheDropdeadZed Před 2 lety +2

      You pay a slight premium to first of all support your play space's business, but if you don't care or don't play there, at the very least you know they haven't tampered with the boxes or damaged them.

  • @CertifiedClapaholic
    @CertifiedClapaholic Před 3 měsíci +10

    This is why we proxy

  • @samhooton1239
    @samhooton1239 Před 2 lety +15

    So I came back to magic about a month ago I used to play in 2015 and I just wanted to thank you for your videos and what you do for the community, videos like this really bring awareness to new and returning players. So thank you for the advice and the great content.

  • @edwards.pellizzari2128
    @edwards.pellizzari2128 Před 2 lety +44

    “You should never accept less than you deserve.” good quote related to MTG, excelent mantra for your life!

    • @Smutter86
      @Smutter86 Před 2 lety

      Edward. My behavioral coach in this program I'm in actually said this to me on Friday. It's a really good motto to carry and more people need to adopt it :)

  • @lazerbolt5277
    @lazerbolt5277 Před 2 lety +229

    Repack scams are frustrating, thank you for bringing this up for a larger audience. I'm sure people will learn from this.

    • @bcarraway1
      @bcarraway1 Před 2 lety +6

      But it wasn't a repack scam. The boxes were just damaged. Honestly, I suspect 3/4 or more of the "repack" videos on CZcams are fake. They get views so naturally ever streamer has to pile on. Prof basically did the reverse, got a suspect looking box and it turned out to be fine.

    • @brigeatenex
      @brigeatenex Před 2 lety +2

      @@bcarraway1 I’ve ordered MTG sealed products a couple of times now. My 3 draft booster pack was tampered with it (had slits in it), Ikoria bundle that I ordered got delivered as a prerelease pack twice, and MH2 booster pack had a missing card. This is all sold by Amazon, thankfully they didn’t even ask for pics and immediately refunded me. Maybe because they’re aware of the issue? But it’s not fake - look at Amazon reviews for the products, it’s a horrible issue.

    • @bcarraway1
      @bcarraway1 Před 2 lety

      @@brigeatenex I am not saying it doesn't happen, but it seems like everyone is trying to claim anything less than pristine and loaded with Mythics is a repack.
      Curious though, you had a booster box that was missing a single card? Like, one pack was short a single card? What kind of rarity?

    • @Adicon_
      @Adicon_ Před rokem

      This wasn't a repack scam...

  • @LtSMASH324
    @LtSMASH324 Před 2 lety +6

    Hearing you talk about giving away the remaining boxes because it makes you happy brought a tear to my eye. It's really kind of you to take your accident to another level to benefit others. Really admire you for that.

  • @jacobgray5525
    @jacobgray5525 Před rokem +7

    You're an absolute G. I'm new to MTG and have been looking at buying 'discount' cards from Amazon and Ebay. Your experience has shown me the key problems to look out for. I've been scammed by online purchases and it sucks. Thanks for making a video about getting ripped off (which is awkward) and being brave enough to admit you were embarrassed. Your video is a kindess to me and I appreciate it.

  • @creamyhummus
    @creamyhummus Před 2 lety +53

    Being able to identify and admit when you've made a mistake is an extremely valuable quality, and the mark of a good person.

  • @Jabari_Mongoose8657
    @Jabari_Mongoose8657 Před 2 lety +27

    I’m happy to see your first box, while damaged, the packs were not affected. Don’t beat yourself over it Prof. Everyone appreciates how upfront and honest you were about the whole situation.

  • @drewsalley6374
    @drewsalley6374 Před rokem +1

    Hey Professor! I’m not gonna lie I’ve only been a fan just recently from the video explaining the dominaria united commander decks, my brother showed me y’all and I’ve been a huge fan since, watch a lot of videos the past week and seen videos of you on other channels. By the sincerity of your voice to the educational aspects of everything I’m completely invested in your channel. This is the content that makes me more invested is seeing how you react to a bad situation and informing people on what to do instead means so much more than you think. Notably I know this video is 11 months old but it still is impactful.

  • @greendilldoz71
    @greendilldoz71 Před 2 lety +3

    Toy temple sent me a tampered pokemon booster box. Half the booster packs were upside down. I emailed them and the response was "we didnt see anything in our cameras"

  • @tempestofthought
    @tempestofthought Před 2 lety +44

    "I don't know the full process of thievery" is the most Prof sentence ever.

  • @joshbrockway8223
    @joshbrockway8223 Před 2 lety +24

    "You should never accept less than what you deserve!" is a motto for life that more of us need to take up. Keep up the great work prof, thank you good sir!

  • @deadpiksel
    @deadpiksel Před rokem +3

    This video is very earnest and a strong cautionary tale about how cards and boxes are treated outside the hobby. Working in generic retail where cards are sold as not a main item it can be frustrating seeing how people outside the hobby are unaware of the value (or scams surrounding) cards. Things like promotional tins and boxes emptied of rares and returned for full price, or boosters being mixed up with full decks by employees who just don't know. Rough as it may be, I'm glad you made this video so others can be given a heads up dealing with this situation.

  • @Mrhandfriends
    @Mrhandfriends Před rokem

    I’m brand new to magic and would like to start collecting cards - how we I have no idea what to go for ?! Can anyone help ?

  • @TheCatgirlGaymer
    @TheCatgirlGaymer Před 2 lety +54

    Whether or not these were fake, it takes a large amount of character and guts to show everyone who normally watches you your mistake. Props to you Prof.

    • @Adicon_
      @Adicon_ Před rokem

      But if these weren't fake, how was it a mistake? He got a crazy good deal on them and everything was legit.

  • @aqtcnja8430
    @aqtcnja8430 Před 2 lety +36

    I respect how you decided to make this video. Just cause you bought from Amazon doesn't change the fact that you are still one of the best content creators who shows that you care for your audience, which makes me appreciative of what you do for MTG and for card games as a whole.

  • @pixierobot
    @pixierobot Před 2 lety

    Prof, I appreciate your approach and commitment to this exercise. You managed the issue and uncertainty really well. Thanks for being such a thoughtful, caring voice on magic and life.

  • @JervisGermane
    @JervisGermane Před rokem +1

    I handle returns for a small business that's a third-party Amazon contractor. The most important things people need to know: 1) Returns are no problem at all and you should always feel free to return anything you bought within the appropriate time window. 2) Always include some sort of explanation in your return. The person who handles your return probably doesn't know what they're looking at (my company does hunting and fishing supplies; I don't hunt or fish; I don't have the slightest idea if the returned scope or game camera I'm looking at works or not) and can use any guidance on whether something's good to resell or is defective. They won't hold it against you either way, but they need to know. They're also not the same person you've been in contact with, so they won't know anything you said in an email, on the phone, or in a live chat. 3) If you think warehouse workers handle things roughly, you should see the shipping carriers. Damage happens in shipping all the time. If you suspect something was damaged in shipping (Which is quite likely the case here), make sure you put that in your explanation. Damage claims are a different sort of return than return-to-stock or defectives.
    Had the professor returned these without an explanation, a return processor probably would have just returned them to stock. And if he returned them without the original packaging, order number, reference number, document number, etc. it would probably have to sit around for a few days while the return person tracked down the original order first. Had he returned them defective, they would have been returned to Wizards for quality control (and the contractor would also have gotten a refund). Had he returned them damaged-in-shipping, a claim would have been filed and the shipper would have had to pay for them.

  • @theophilosklonaris4859
    @theophilosklonaris4859 Před 2 lety +18

    The Professor is such a nice guy he sends away boxes of good cards to feel better instead of feeling better just knowing they’re good to keep. What a kind man.

  • @michael-luce
    @michael-luce Před 2 lety +18

    Prof, as a newer player with a smaller budget, I greatly appreciate everything you do in helping to demonstrate the risks and benefits of buying cards in different ways. I've said it before on other videos, but sincerely - thank you for your help and service in this community

  • @nataliehanks3308
    @nataliehanks3308 Před rokem +20

    It happens. It makes sense that you wouldn't be immediately suspicious and it's honestly crazy that people just buying Magic cards have to scrutinize what they buy.

  • @nilskuhl2967
    @nilskuhl2967 Před 2 lety +5

    You again show us how a good positive and supportive content creator you are for the MTG community, cheers and thanks to you Prof!!

  • @DMFF_YT
    @DMFF_YT Před 2 lety +37

    Thank you for sharing this Prof. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, ESPECIALLY in the stressful times we live in. You're an Ally to the player and a symbol of good. There's a reason many Magic the Gathering players look up to you.

  • @djsefnet
    @djsefnet Před 2 lety +23

    “You should never accept less than you deserve.” Quote of the year for MTG.

  • @jackb.fletcheriii7396
    @jackb.fletcheriii7396 Před 2 lety +4

    Learning form mistakes and acknowledging them is a very noble thing! Good on you for turning this into something positive. Here's hoping I am picked at random!

  • @AspiringVegan
    @AspiringVegan Před 2 lety

    I really appreciate that you shared this. Thankyou for your bravery - so that not just you - but the rest of us can learn from it.
    I subscribed to your channel because I so appreciate the integrity you have demonstrated, even though I know that’s not why you do this. :)

  • @CareyBanyas
    @CareyBanyas Před 2 lety +26

    The candid nature of this video is refreshing. Feels like a conversation we are having. Keep up the great work Prof!

  • @MikeScarbro
    @MikeScarbro Před 2 lety +38

    Thanks for being honest about this. I’m glad you didn’t end up getting ripped off and I hope that Wizards takes heed that issues like this are reducing consumer confidence in one of their major sales partners.

  • @derrickbarrett9173
    @derrickbarrett9173 Před 2 měsíci

    Your an amazing person professor I've been watching your videos for a few months now love your material. I love your stories and your attitude It would be a dream come true to leave Wisconsin for a few days to meet you play magic and pick your brain about magic. You pretty much helped me get back into magic again which honestly saved my life been going thru years of hard shitty times with no light at the end of the tunnel but I still keep pushing forward because of people like you Voxy Josh Lee Qwai and Jimmy with your funny podcasts. So thank you professor for all of your time it's really appreciated

  • @MentalUnion
    @MentalUnion Před 2 lety +11

    "Ooo triple." Reaction made me laugh a good bit. I was happy to see the packs in that specific box were not repacked. But the point still stands, getting anything less than what you pay for, presentation or otherwise is unacceptable, Amazon shouldn't carry collectibles if they aren't going to allocate proper handling, of course I'm aware everything Amazon is as automated as can be without holding the customer in any regard, just get the product to the buyer that's about it.
    LGS may cost a bit more but you get your sealed product then and there in proper condition. I will personally avoid Amazon when it comes to TCGs and collectibles.

  • @dawn3962
    @dawn3962 Před 2 lety +22

    "You should never accept less than what you deserve!"
    truly is a way to look at most things in life.
    It applies to so many situations.
    Big thanks to you Prof. :)

  • @Techy3200
    @Techy3200 Před 2 lety +77

    You're a good person Prof. I appreciate your honesty, and humility in tough situation and you went above and beyond to make up for something a decent minded would never blame you for. Saving $150 on 3 boxes is no joke and on all accounts know you didn't do anything wrong here. We are all human!

  • @Aethalops
    @Aethalops Před rokem +3

    Thanks for making this and sending the warning. Those of us not plugged in constantly to what's happening in the game and its market aren't necessarily aware of how real some of these risks are. I've just been able to return to M:TG after a 3-4 year hiatus, and have spent the last week trying to decide how I want to spend my money to get back in.

  • @Deadite8593
    @Deadite8593 Před 2 lety +6

    Sometimes things on amazon are sketchy. I think you're right about things being returned and then just sent on to the next unexpecting buyer, I've certainly felt like I've received things from them in bad shape that felt that way about it. Cheers for making good content, I'm fairly new to MTG and getting my wife and kids into it and have found your videos super helpful

    • @Domebuddy
      @Domebuddy Před rokem

      There are "new" items in amazon warehouses that have been there for a long time and have been beat up just by other items being thrown on top of them, mild forklift squeezing, etc etc. Its possible to receive an awful looking item that is technically unused. I'd still suggest returning it and getting a replacement, Pick and pack really arent supposed to let shitty looking boxes go through, they are supposed to be damaged out.

  • @tobyspaulding4618
    @tobyspaulding4618 Před 2 lety +29

    Words of wisdom, I'm just getting back into magic after being away for nearly 10 years, and this type of info is so valuable in making the right choices as I build my collection again. Thanks again for sharing your humility and honest candor.

  • @wesh8121
    @wesh8121 Před 2 lety +31

    This was a rough watch, you didn't hide the discomfort at all, that took guts.
    Well done.

  • @arleneconnolly7103
    @arleneconnolly7103 Před 2 lety

    I love your videos, I being an older card player find you very refreshing. I find you funny, honest, and just an overall good person. Things happen especially in the times we find ourselves. I have never purchased cards from Amazon, I always purchase from our local gaming store, now with your video I feel more confident about supporting my local game store. Thank you professor. Now if I could only get my son and his friends to teach me how to play, lol. Stay healthy and Safe.

  • @maxdaviesmedia2490
    @maxdaviesmedia2490 Před rokem

    Thank you for teaching such a valuable lesson! I’m very lucky to have 4 in my city! And besides! You don’t get the customer service or community experience online as you do in person! Don’t beat yourself up about it! You’ve shined light and given advice to everyone watching! Keep up the great content Professor!

  • @dangerousmatt522
    @dangerousmatt522 Před 2 lety +271

    It takes a strong and honorable person to admit when they’ve made a mistake. Keep doing you prof. You’re one of the best content creators for this great game that we all love.

    • @hyoroemongaming569
      @hyoroemongaming569 Před rokem

      The mistake isnt due to bad intention. Any decent person would do.

  • @jonathanwhitmore9163
    @jonathanwhitmore9163 Před 2 lety +20

    "Take everything you can, leave nothing behind"
    -Pirate's motto
    "Never accept less than you deserve"
    -MTG player's motto

  • @zephyrkhambatta
    @zephyrkhambatta Před rokem

    Your passion is so admirable man. It makes me be passionate about the things I'm known to be passionate for but then sometimes I lose it LOL. This is just all around good and earnest energy. I appreciate you.

  • @nagphillips7886
    @nagphillips7886 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this video. I appreciate you getting the word out about this and letting people know we as consumer don't have to take it.

  • @diahog2245
    @diahog2245 Před 2 lety +40

    There was no reason to "embarrass" yourself like this, much less to be as charitable and just give these boxes away, but you did - more reasons why you're my fav mtg youtuber

  • @Puertoricandragon
    @Puertoricandragon Před 2 lety +38

    I appreciate the fact that he is not above admitting a mistake and trying to make the best of it. Really cool dude and I wish I could rock a tie like he does!

  • @kuta_kuma6456
    @kuta_kuma6456 Před rokem

    Yea thank you for making this more aware, recently I started getting back into mtg and was planning on buying the new warhammer sets on amazon but decided to go through tcgplayer instead because I kept seeing scam videos from mtg amazon that it made me nervous. I am lucky to have a local game store but sometimes going through them for mtg or my warhammer models the prices are usually double if not 70% increase than the usual price :/

  • @johnboytrue
    @johnboytrue Před 2 lety

    I did the same thing when I got back into magic. And I knew less then you. I was rather shocked that this is happening. Thank you for being honest and sharing.

  • @kikreatorlemon8381
    @kikreatorlemon8381 Před 2 lety +18

    "You should never accept less than what you deserve"
    New official motto for the channel 👌🏿

  • @d.b.videos9942
    @d.b.videos9942 Před 2 lety +20

    Whenever I kind of fall out of being into magic, I happen to see one of his videos in my notification slot. It always inspires me to keep playing with my brother, and try to find some people to play some commander with.

    • @emansfield2017
      @emansfield2017 Před 2 lety

      There’s definitely a good amount of people in the community that are chill to play with, also there’s virtual Skype of the sort to play With people online

  • @schondos8073
    @schondos8073 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Professor you stopped me from ordering on Amazon and continue to support my LGS, regardless of price difference. Your integrity saved me from possibly a bad experience with purchasing on Amazon in regards to magic cards. Don’t waver, fellow magi. Support LGS

  • @allurereal
    @allurereal Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this video prof, I’m a new mtg player and things like this haven’t even crossed my mind yet. Never have I had a hobby where this can be such a serious legitimate concern! Kamigawa comes out the day before my birthday, and I’m glad to have a games store to go to! Cheers.

  • @garlicpress6121
    @garlicpress6121 Před 2 lety +26

    For something I'd crack immediately this wouldn't be a problem, but sometimes I'd like to hold draft packs for future drafts as well. Great to see you addressing a very real issue that affects people who might not have access to an LGS.

  • @Azraekos
    @Azraekos Před 2 lety +9

    The fact Prof puts in this kind of effort just to admit he made a mistake, only to make the best of it and take the opportunity to do a completely selfless giveaway, shows he's a good person.

  • @CAD382
    @CAD382 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for making this video Prof, you are not alone in this. It happened to me with a couple Midnight Hunt products a couple of months ago. I made a firm commitment from that day forward to only buy MTG products from local game stores and other vendors connected to vetted local game stores. The deck boxes look amazing, bought two.

  • @geo9955
    @geo9955 Před 2 měsíci

    Two years later and this stuff is still happening. I ordered the set of 5 starter commander precons (First Flight, Token Triumph, Draconic Destruction, Chaos Incarnate, Grave Danger) and when it got to me it was just 5 of the Draconic Destruction decks in the box, in poor condition. I returned it immediately and ordered a replacement. It happened AGAIN.
    I was eventually able to get what I paid for but it was a major headache. Support your LGS or buy from trusted vendors instead and save yourself the trouble!
    Great video Prof, as always.

  • @shadowphoenixgamer
    @shadowphoenixgamer Před 2 lety +33

    Totally understand how he feels, these days amazon feels more like ebay where instead of getting it from a company you are getting it off some random person instead. we're all happy you didnt get ripped off. We're also respectful of your honestly with the whole situation. At least we all know now for the future

  • @T_Peazy
    @T_Peazy Před 2 lety +17

    That "texturing on the end of the one box" is a sign of a shrink wrap heat gun usually.

  • @brandonmcdannald3517
    @brandonmcdannald3517 Před 2 lety

    I usually don't check out openings videos but this was cool.thanks for looking out for the lil guys.personally I rarely can afford to buy boxes and if I were to get one of those repacks I'd be devastated. So thank you for the information on things like that.

  • @kaikokemor6029
    @kaikokemor6029 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the heads up, its wild Amazon isn't doing more QC on mtg product since this is getting so much attention lately. Keep up the good work Prof!

  • @JPFO16
    @JPFO16 Před 2 lety +25

    There's no need to feel ashamed over this. After all, we learn by making mistakes. You're already doing a good thing by making this video, so that hopefully if someone receives damaged goods they'll decide to return them immediately. I'm new to playing paper Magic, having only played Arena before getting my first deck recently, and your videos have been so helpful. Keep up the good work!

  • @JMONTY7654
    @JMONTY7654 Před 2 lety +9

    I love that even when covering the negative topic of a potential scam the prof is able to make it positive and took the extra effort to show us proof instead of "trust me".
    Prof truly cares about this community and only wants the best for everyone involved and the game.

  • @johnniemeredith9141
    @johnniemeredith9141 Před rokem

    Thanks for being you Prof! I have to drive 30+ minutes and spend more than 25 percent more to get sealed product. I do go there for prereleases and try to stop by and buy supplies whenever I can though.

  • @OneTrueNobody
    @OneTrueNobody Před 2 lety

    I used to work at Amazon so I can certainly confirm that employees frequently take awful care of products. On the truck when unloading freshly-arrived goods they frequently just toss boxes onto the roller belt from where they stand on top of the stool they're using to reach the top of the pile, many of those boxes topple off of the belt at some point and need to be put back on; the priority is speed, not care with the goods. If someone notices a damaged item they're meant to damage it out but for something like cards, people will often just assume a scuffed package is irrelevant.
    For the record, I always tried to avoid doing that with any product that I ever moved, but on the few occasions I worked the trucks, I was always given grief for moving too slow; it's really only something you can take care about if you're in Universal Receive, where products that have already been removed from the truck (and tossed around) are sent to be sorted to their destinations. There you are expected to engage with one product at a time for the most part, individually scanning and either placing them in a tote (with an eye for fitting as much in one tote as possible) or on a conveyor belt, so keeping your "rate" up isn't so hectic a process that you need to risk product damage. You can just *place* things where they need to go, thank God. You also do need to check for damaged products along the way.
    I always *hated* working the truck because I never wanted to be personally responsible for product damage.

  • @troysandera2058
    @troysandera2058 Před 2 lety +418

    Unrelated, I am just so sick of that damn monkey.

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 2 lety +180

      congrats, you have been randomly selected to get a box! please send an email to TolarianCommunityCollege at gmail so we can begin verifying and I can send you your box.

    • @mateuszgrela9184
      @mateuszgrela9184 Před 2 lety +17

      Congrats

    • @willwisnoski4094
      @willwisnoski4094 Před 2 lety +32

      Wow a CZcams account that was created two days ago

    • @ruesifus
      @ruesifus Před 2 lety +1

      The monkey on Meathook Massacre?

    • @rubenramirez-ar2
      @rubenramirez-ar2 Před 2 lety +1

      Niiice, congrats!

  • @Skatox83
    @Skatox83 Před 2 lety +17

    “You should never accept less than you deserve.” - totally with you on this one

  • @Haetred
    @Haetred Před 4 měsíci +1

    This endeared me to you more than you know. As a grown man to make a video you know is going to catch an innumerable amount of views and humble yourself to admit a mistake to try and save others out of pure selflessness... you literally can't buy that even if you wanted to. Thank you man. As a Marine accountability and integrity are invaluable to me and we can't tell which personalities that we follow on mass platforms genuinely have those qualities unless they do something like this. Thank you for having the moral character and intestinal fortitude to make this video. I hope beyond hope that one day I can sit down and play a round with you. If you're ever in Texas let me know. I'll make sure you have a great time.😊

  • @albryan3716
    @albryan3716 Před 9 měsíci

    Glad you ended up making this video. It’s informative for newer players like myself and I generally like the candid aesthetic of this video.

  • @88ongbak
    @88ongbak Před 2 lety +27

    “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” - Thorin Oakenshield
    Thanks for the giveaway!

  • @TerrificDots
    @TerrificDots Před 2 lety +12

    Sometimes i forget that the prof is actually a prof, with quotes like "You should never accept less than what you deserve!", really makes feel like i was teached something after a video about cardboard and big corporations, thanks for everything.

  • @robertprovost7312
    @robertprovost7312 Před 2 lety

    Love the channel and ALL content I've seen here I always come back to see what else I can learn about all things magic

  • @viridionwaves
    @viridionwaves Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for sharing, shows a lot of sincerity to put this out there. Lots of people need to see tbis and it's doing good in the world.

  • @tokebrix8331
    @tokebrix8331 Před 2 lety +12

    I would love to draft with my dad on his birthday in the coming month. We kinda drifted apart, but every now and then we dust off our old deck and play, gotta love this game and your content

  • @thebenfreeman
    @thebenfreeman Před 2 lety +21

    Even after years of these videos, I'm still always unsure how the Magic community lucked into someone like this as the biggest CZcamsr.
    Most fandoms do not.

  • @joshsaunders7971
    @joshsaunders7971 Před 2 lety +2

    4:13 that’s exactly what’s happening with the boxes… I bought packs from a store and the manager even asked me if he wanted me to open a new box for fresh packs. Reason he said this is cus people can weigh the packs for foils. So the packs I got had nothing in em except one foil swamp.

  • @Tillich1965
    @Tillich1965 Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate this video. I've always felt similar about ordering cards from amazon, sometimes I feel like it's a gamble.

  • @GodHand1995
    @GodHand1995 Před 2 lety +17

    As a "new returning player" it warms my heart that we got the prof looking out for us :)

  • @raidrax2368
    @raidrax2368 Před 2 lety +17

    As a warehouse worker myself, I see stuff like this happen to boxes all the time. I usually try to avoid grabbing messed up boxes when I'm picking them for orders.

  • @jeffwaugh343
    @jeffwaugh343 Před 2 lety

    Probably my favorite MTG video ever was the match between Professor vs Rudy at some convention a couple years ago. Appreciate the content sir. BTW I started playing/ collecting in 94, stopped in circa 02, but I still love your content brother. Still have most of my collection, except for my dang Tabernakle, and a few others, that I traded for what I thought windfall for my play decks back in 96. Sheesh

  • @alexbriscolino270
    @alexbriscolino270 Před rokem +1

    I’m really glad that you made this video because there has been multiple people that I know that have bought products off of Amazon because of the deals that they have sometimes, and they all have been unsatisfactory, beat up, and torn apart. The message about getting what you deserve is the ULTIMATE take away from this video