Temporal Stasis 1.0 Old School MTG Deck Tech
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- Here is my first version of an Old School 93/94 deck using the updated Restricted List for Atlantic and Swedish rule sets, Temporal Stasis! This build started with my final versions of Turbo Stasis where the plan was to aggressively lock down the board with Stasis/Winter Orb and chew up the opponent with Black Vise.
This build plays a similar strategy but with so many Time Vaults "unlocked" it can play a more aggressive combo strategy and bypass even more of the control cards needed to buy time for a lockdown.
Here is the current full decklist for 1.0
=== Spells ===
4x Stasis
3x Time Vault
4x Twiddle
2x Kismet
3x Black Vise
4x Howling Mine
2x Disenchant
1x Chaos Orb
3x Paralyze
3x Boomerang
2x Power Sink
1x Mana Drain
1x Timetwister
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Transmute Artifact
1x Demonic Tutor
=== Mana ===
3x Island
1x Plains
2x Mishra's Factory
4x Tundra
4x Underground Sea
3x City of Brass
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Emerald
1x Black Lotus
1x Sol Ring
=== Sideboard ===
2x Disenchant
2x Tablernacle at Pendrell Vale
1x City in a Bottle
2x Swords to Plowshares
2x Moat
2x Blue Elemental Blast
2x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Reconstruction
=== HOW TO CONTACT EDWIN ===
Email: edwinthemagicengineer@gmail.com
PO Box 2333
Windermere, FL 34786
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Thanks Mr. Edwin awesome stuffs, I certainly like since Vise is my forte
Love it! I am gonna build something like this. I was already on a twiddle vault deck but Stasis is my true love: I wanna try this mix
Jesper! We need to play that next game! Want to play against this monstrosity?
Very cool with the Paralyze & the Reconstruction. It shows you've been in the lab ;) Good job.
PS. I will show you my deck if we get paired in the Summer Derby ;)
That sounds great, I hope we do get paired up!
YES more old school decks.. now too get you too stream more :P
I absolutely love this deck.
I love copy artifact so much that I was trying to think of what to cut. Perhaps a boomerang or twiddle?
Great video!
Hey Cody, always great to hear from ya! Yeah it's a really tough call on what to cut for that Copy Artifact. What I find is during one game I wish I could have it instead of another Disenchant, on another game perhaps instead of another boomerang, etc. The more I know the meta I'm going against, the better I can answer what to put in the list.
Let us see on a video very soon how this amazing concept en works.
i am very agree with your theories about.
Yeah, its hard to kep those cards out, specially copy artifacts.. of course you will try to include at least once of them..
And very nice and very agree too with the idea of no balance, no regrowth, nothing to would slow down the idea.
Very special deck with Amazing cards for old school lovers. Please record games soon lol, 😊
Great feedback, I'll try to record some games.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I would also love to see this deck in action. I am trying to get to some OS tournaments with a wonky winter orb brew when life decides to give me a break. Hopefully see you at one.
Keep up with the videos on OS decks!
Hi Edwin, any updates to the deck yet? Looking forward to seeing where you've taken it. Also, Merry Christmas from my family to yours.
This definitely looks fun to pilot.
Indeed it is! It's crazy to stack up 2-3 extra turns with Time Vaults and a couple howling mines in play!
Would love to see this thing in action!
Soon!
Would really like to see some recorded games with this build
Pacific won’t unrestrict so I can’t play it unfortunately
Edwin: Are you interested in acquiring another *Graded* Collector's Edition Time Vault? (to crack & use as a 4th copy in your deck???)
the CE cards look great.wow.
I only have one CE in the deck, one of the Time Vaults. The rest are Beta or FBB :)
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer yeah that CE timevault looks amazing. granted, it could be 'cause it was sitting next to the proxy. CE colors look "right" to me.
Hi Edwin, what about recall? There are some crazy recurrent shenanigans you can do with the twiddles and the vaults... There is a somewhat recent video in the Timmy talks channel where someone does that and takes more than 10 turns in a row
Recall would work well in a Stasis deck meant to be slow and defensive, this is fast and offensive so most of the time you don't have the mana
I had a deck similar to this back in 93 94. So much fun. But hated by my opponents lol
Was it the typical version with more counters, swords to plowshares, time elemental, serra angel, etc? Thats really a different deck.
In all fairness, he said “similar”
@@mtgmeansmagic4758 indeed, very true. I don't mean disrespect. I brought up the difference because many people miss it. This deck plays VERY different then normal Stasis builds
Hey Edwin I honestly do t remember exactly the build. Mine revolved around stasis, kismet, twiddle, and time vault mostly. I can’t remember the creatures I used but I did use 4 mishras factories. Did not have all the power you have. I only had a mox jet at the time. I was just fascinated with the ability to pretty much lock out my opponents while taking extra turns.
My other favorite deck back then was the always hated land destruction deck. Land destruction with tabernacle and nether voids and the abyss. People hated me lol
@@mojosodope45 Yeah people hate not being able to play their cards lol
Not to beat a dead horse here, but I want to be extra clear how different this build is then previous builds of Stasis. I think that point is very much missed by most people until they really look at this list. For one thing, MOST of the time previous Stasis builds were only ever allowed to have a single Black Vise or a single Time Vault. That's a very significant difference because they are both core pieces of this build and it would NOT be the same deck without multiple copies.
The other thing is how drastically different the play style for this build is. Typical Stasis decks had 8+ counterspells, 3-4 Disenchants, 3-4 Swords to Plowshares, Balance, Wrath of God, etc. They would also typically have Serra Angel and/or Time Elemental. They would also play Strip Mine, Time Walk, and Library of Alexandria, none of which are in my list. So the list itself turns from very traditional-defensive play to super aggressive.
To be more clear about the play style point... if a person builds my list and attempts to pilot it like a traditional Stasis deck they will very likely lose... because it does not have enough answers and board sweeps to play the slow control game. There is only 3 counterspells, no plows, 2 disenchants, and no board sweeps in the deck. Library of Alexandria does not work in this build because you don't have 20+ turns to sit back with a full hand of cards and draw cards. You empty your hand on turns 1-3 and try to lock it all down.
Playing against this Stasis deck is like drinking from a fire hose. It starts locking down mana immediately and SHOVING cards into your hands then you suddenly find a Black Vise around your neck and end up dead by turn 8 if possible. That's a COMPLETELY different play style then traditional Stasis decks and it seems many people miss that when they say they played a list like this 15 years ago. Most of the time... a list like this was not even legal (due to different restrictions). Besides that, I never saw aggressive Stasis decks back in the day.
I hope that makes sense.
Would you be able to post a tutorial on how to build and play an old school Fork/Recursion deck? Thank You. I’m addicted to your channel by the way.
Do you have a list for that deck?
Edwin the Magic Engineer - I was reading about Old School Magic and came across this article
(link below). I have a funny feeling you can make it even more lethal.
oldschool-mtg.blogspot.com/2013/03/abusing-fork.html?m=1
Kismet and stasis makes me want to cry. 😭
Don't cry, it's an aggressive list. Not a long and boring game!
Stupid question, would there be a intermediate/mid-tier version?
When the Stasis player says: This deck is mean!
... what the actual fuck he has created now?
I'd consider replacing Paralyze with Spirit Link (and then maybe Demonic Tutor becomes another Transmute Artifact) which removes the need for black at very little cost.
The black splash was never a huge problem for that deck and I really wanted my opponent to pay for the same creature multiple times. The paralyze was not just a removal... it was a trick... trying to get them to tap out to keep using the same creature. Untapped mana is THE biggest threat to a Stasis deck.
I eventually decided I don't like The Abyss in Stasis because people hold back their creatures and keep mana untapped.
I have a version of Stasis that I run now which seems to be working better then any previous version I had. I might make a video on it sometime.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I support the idea of taxing their mana; I'm just wary of counting on my opponent making a mistake by untapping the paralyzed creature.
+1 for more Stasis content.
@@jaywinner328 That's just it though... if they leave the creature tapped then I shut down their creature for 1 black mana.
If they untap it, I'm trapping them a different way, by spending their mana.
Either way is pretty good honestly.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I just fail to see how Paralyze is better than Spirit Link. That always shuts down the creature, gains you life off of Serendib and Juzam AND removes the need for black. The only drawback I can think of are utility creatures but are any of those relevant?
@@jaywinner328 Spirit Link has several disadvantages for a Stasis deck over Paralyze.
1. Remember that spirit link does not tap a creature on casting like paralyze does. A simple Disenchant makes that Serra Angel active again. With Paralyze they need the same Disenchant... AND an untap phase before they can use that Serra again.
2. Spirit Link allows their creatures to remain blockers which stops my Mishra's Factory coming through once I have them locked.
3. Spirit Link does not make them tap out again to use that same creature (again... remember that Stasis decks want your mana TAPPED).
Meekstone is also very good with Kismet.
True, but thats for sure a better fit for the slower and more defensive versions of Stasis
Yeah, just seeing this makes me have all kinds of bad reminders of playing stasis. 😂😂😂
What about 1 Regrowth? I know it's off-color and there's only 5 green mana sources in that build; but I think it's not problematic to keep it in your hand for a while in a Stasis deck with 4 Howling Mine, perhaps by adding a 4th City of Brass? Also lets you grab back Stasis after an unpaid upkeep? I don't play Stasis so perhaps I am posting a terribad comment :-P
Regrowth, Sylvan Library, and Instill Energy could all be great additions to a Time Vault and Stasis build. But they go more down the combo route and are less responsive to what your opponent is doing.
Recall instead of reconstruction
If you play pac atl or swe etc it’s super powerful in a deck that ramps like stasis
I also run time walk main cause howling mine
Let’s me do more after a boomerang
But I run 4 recall and all restricted cards besides twist
It's very hard to get the 5+ mana to make Recall Worth it
Edwin the Magic Engineer how? Stasis naturally ramps
@@Gearsturfs The games I lose with Stasis is usually not because my late game strategy fell apart, it was because I could not set up properly early game.
The difference between winning and not winning usually comes down to the 0-2 mana spells not the 5+ mana spells. If I'm up at 5 available mana, backed up with 2 blue for a counter... I've usually already won.
Man that's like a $30k+ deck.
No strip mine or library.. very interesting
No Time Walk either :)
I think two more Tabernacles in lieu of the Moats.
That might end up being best. I hope not though, I only own to Tabernacles lol
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer, there is always that to consider. LOL
does the twiddle untapping time vault work again? i remember when time vault had to have a time counter on it from a sacrificed turn to be able to be used for an extra turn because of voltaic key.
why not just run 3 mana drains instead of power sinks?
The rule with the counter on Time Vault was removed in 2008. Since then it has been possible to use Twiddle or Voltaic Key with the Time Vault :)
Mana Drain is restricted in all Old School-formats.
@@ZorroDk ok. ty for the updated rules and the like
Great answers guys! Yes simply untapping Time Vault works now and yes Mana Drain is restricted.
But notice I picked power sink and not counterspell? Half the reason to add power sink is to tap down their mana sources.
4x Time Vault
4x Voltaic Key
Key aint legal in 93/94 though
Paralyze + animate artifact + time vault is 4 mana time walks
Wow... very interesting. I did not even consider that
Yup one card away from a combo there
I have been tinkering with A Ugb build that uses paralyze for both effects and also uses instill energy/birds of paradise for a soft lock.
@@steffensgary i would love to see a list sometime
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer - check your fb messages lol
Hiiiiii edwin
Hello!
So main deck, 2 cards CMC 4 and 1 card CMC 3. The average CMC is 2 and it is Esper Control. I understand why you did not bother with Time Elemental and Serra Angel, the CMC was to high. Sideboard has 2 cards with CMC 4 and those cards are two copies of Moat. I think with that in mind you could just take out The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale for anything else. Otherwise this deck pure evil lol
Yes low mana curve is for certain the design because the deck tries to aggressively lock the board and respond to the opponent with as little mana as possible.
Tabernacle is amazing in Stasis. When their mana is locked down it's a permanent Wrath of God!
What if you took out the kismet(s) and add Dark Ritual(s)? Thoughts?
THIS DECK *points down towards his crotch*
I love anything Stasis.
Ok, so this plays somewhat similarly to the old Stasis-Tog decks. Interesting. You throwing down thousands of dollars worth of Time Vaults and then 45 cent Kismets made me laugh.
Yeah lol! People usually laugh aty Beta power next to beat up Revised duals
White for Kismet?.. if only there was a blue card with the same cmc that did the same thing, and was tutor-able, with say Enlightened Tutor? Which also finds, Mine, Vice, Stasis and the useless Vaults..
As for the Vaults.. Idk where to start. Stasis does NOT need another way to take extra turns in my opinion. It's as simple as an EoT Chain of Vapour. Also, the Vapour can be used for defence and the down side is actually an upside. As you can bounce your Stasis and sac a tapped land to bounce ANOTHER TARGET. 4x Vapour is better than 4x vault+4x Twiddle (lol) and all the other jank you play ONLY because you're playing Vaults. Leaving slots for actual good cards.
Forsaken City is a must, because of reasons. The cards you exile will be negligible. Un needed Tutors, multiple Cities, Mines, Stasis, and/or anything you don't need at the time.
4xFow
4xDaze Must play. Untaps your lands
1xForce of Neg/foil
1xMisdirection main deck for Decay and psudo Counterspell.
1x Map. Can find City and Tabernacle. And can be found with Enlightened Tutor. (Seems slow but isn't) When you need it, you should be able to get to it, if you dont need it, feed them to the City.
There are MUSTPLAY cards you are missing in my opinion.
Also Serra angel is out, Serra Avatar is in. You won't be playing it on early turns anyhow.
I could type on this topic for days. Been playing stasis since the 90's.
Whoa whoa whoa dude... This deck is Old School format. Those cards you mentioned are not allowed.
Alpha/Beta/Unlimited/Revised
Arabian Knights
Antiquities
Legends
The Dark
Fallen Empires
That's it.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Old School format huh? You mean vintage or legacy? Either way these are all legal..
@@jplxlabelle1681 no no... not Vintage. Not Legacy. An entirely different format called "Old School". Also known as "9394" because the ONLY cards allowed were printed in 1993, and 1994.
my.cfbevents.com/reference/oldschool
I'm amazed you have never heard of it.