Greeks & Romans in Ancient India: 8 Things You Might Not Know
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- In ancient times, the Greco-Roman world and India were closely interconnected. The religion, trade, philosophy, science, and art of these regions influenced one another and created a fascinating melting pot of ideas and peoples.
I hope you enjoy this "list" video style, where I explore everything from Greco-Buddhism to Greek slaves in India, and more.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
0:32 #1 Buddhism Among the Greeks
2:44 #2 Greco-Roman Art in India
4:57 #3 Roman Trade with India
8:13 #4 Roman Communities in India
9:34 #5 Indian Visitors in the Greco-Roman World
11:55 #6 Greco-Roman Women as Slaves in India
13:42 #7 Scientific Exchange
15:07 #8 Astrological Exchange
Sources (non-exhaustive):
Hain, Kathryn A. "The Prestige Makers: Greek Slave Women in Ancient India."
Ray, Himanshu P. "The Yavana presence in ancient India.”
Pollard, Elizabeth A. “Indian Spices and Roman ‘Magic’ in Imperial and Late Antique Indomediterranea.”
J. Thorley. “The Silk Trade between China and the Roman Empire at its Height, Circa a.d. 90-130.”
Geraghty, Ryan M. “The Impact of Globalization in the Roman Empire.”
Fitzpatrick, Matthew P. “Provincializing Rome: The Indian Ocean Trade Network and Roman Imperialism.”
Woolf, Greg. “Imperialism, empire and the integration of the Roman economy.”
Prasad, Durga P. “History of the Andhras.”
“Periplus of the Erythraean Sea.”
“The Geography of Strabo.”
“Pliny the Elder’s Natural History.”
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The ancient world was more connected than we think and it's heartening to know that all these people left a legacy of coexistence and intellectual exchange.
@Pk They also traded with Satavahanas who were Sanskritic- Kannada speaker
@Pk I said they spoke Sanskritic- Kannada. Yes Prakrit is also included. But their main records are in Sanskrit and Kannada.
@Pk Lol Prakrit itself came from Samskrt
The Greco-Roman women were not slaves but they were DAS(Servant) for Indians as there is a big confusion among historians and specially the western historians ttrying to prove servants as Slaves.
P.S. king and PM is also a public servant.
@@KiranSingh-zr8jr Who told u that? Pakrit is order language than sanskrit. U will see many words of Pakrit taken in sanskrit. People know all the letters and meaning of words of sanskrit while many letters and words of Pakrit are yet to be discovered or recognized. That itself proof Pakrit is oldest Indian language.
Greetings to the Great Civilization and People of India from Greece! 🇮🇳🇬🇷
❤️❤️🙏🙏
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Respect to Greece 😇
@@adityaraj2447 - 👍🙂
The Entire World is one Family 🙏😇
India was also the source of weapons-grade steel for much of the ancient. Wootz steel was used by everyone from the Iberians to the Romans to the Persians.
Nick name 'Damascus steel'...
@@wonderworld7721 nah Damascus steel is a lower grade imitation of Wootz.
That steele originated and was forged in the Indian state of Karnataka.
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@@tarjd6796 Wootz steel originated in the mid-1st millennium BC in South India, in present-day Tiruchirappalli, Kodumanal, Erode, Tamil Nadu.[1] There are several ancient Tamil, North Indian, Greek, Chinese and Roman literary references to high carbon Tamil steel.[citation needed] In later times[when?], wootz steel was also made in Golconda in Telangana, Karnataka and Sri Lanka.[2][3][4][5] The steel was exported as cakes of steely iron that came to be known as "Wootz".[6]
🇮🇳❤🇬🇷 ...I love Greece..love from india 🇮🇳....
Maybe too much love. Poor slave women...
@@hevnervals He is trying to get Visa in Greece 😂
@@TrickXxl bruh
Pakis do that
@@TrickXxl greece is a shitter than
india so I doubt it
@@hevnervalsthe interpretation is wrong. Those women were Das(servants) not slave. They have wrongly translated the indian word into English. Moreover, the Greek too had indian slaves, so stfu mf.
Living 2,000 years ago, traveling from Italy to India must have felt like an incredible voyage between worlds.
Same thing nowadays. A Roman visiting Tamil Nadu or Mumbai nowadays would feel the same awe & culture shock. Same goes for a Gujarati traveling to Tuscany. Although of course the ship ride took longer (& was more perilous).
@@Jumpoable Yeah, but the same big American corporations are in both Rome and Tamil Nadu, LOL. I guess you can compare what the Nike Store and McDonalds are like both Italy and India today.
Silk Road mainly.
Same route from which Noodles reached to Italy and became spaghetti.
Thankful for both kinda foods 😂
@@rajeshswamy9993 italian and Chinese pastas have a separate origin and evolution though
@@galgar5660 both are correct lol they had pasta before but just didn’t shape it into long strands until they saw noodles.
Indian universities at the time had a lot of foreign students that came to India to study. it was well connected world and alot of knowledge was exported and imported into india.
Yes this liar youtube video maker cleverly hid other facts, or giving the impression that Indians took knowledge from Romans/Greeks while both the knowledges are independent of each other.
@@bhawnabangari2389 "Closely linked" does not mean we took all our knowledge from the Greeks, exchange of Ideas among cultures was pretty common at that time. European and Chinese travellers would come to India to learn about our Sciences as did our Indian travelers who went to other countries.
@@user-dz7iu7lw7u this video is implying that we took knowledge from Greeks/Romans because he doesn't mention what knowledge has migrated from India to West and Mediterranean regions. The knowledge migration from Bharat to rest of those places is far far much more, but he cleverly hid those facts, and devoted more time to Romans/Greeks ones. He even lied about horoscope signs/astrology. The astrology system of West is entirely different from that which is ours, we follow different charts, but he said that we took horoscopic astrology from them which is lie. Both the horoscopic charts are independent even there are many things in our charts that they don't have.
@@user-dz7iu7lw7u I have unsubscribed him today because 1) he is a liar 2) He uses unauthentic sources 3) His videos even contain information from Wikipedia and Wikipedia is king of unauthentic things, propaganda and lies.
@@bhawnabangari2389 I also thinks the same.
India, Greece, Rome and Egypt are my favorite historical places. It is awesome that they had a very strong relationship with each other than that of the modern world.
Add ethiopia , persia , and china
@@rediettadesse2828 Arabia
I love Indian Persian Egyptian Greek Chinese Roman and Macedonian history most.
They were the true superpowers of ancient world.
I like china more.
As an Italian, I really appreciated this video. Indian culture is very interesting and fascinating to me.
it truly is
Lol communist like cultures😂😂
@@thefuturistics_ yes, we do.
@@thefuturistics_ are you an Italian?
@@aureliano_37 nope.. I'm Indian
People just don’t know how awesome Indian History is.
Aristotle himself was taught in India, its Aristotle who told Alexander about India and its glories and if he were to ever conquer India, make sure to take at least a Sage from India as loot. Contrary to western HIS+story, Alexander suffered a humiliating defeat & serious injury in (Hydaspes) India, Alexander also lost his partner/lover/boy friend in the same battled. Up on retreating back Alexander never waged further conquest and circum to his injuries. Pythagoras was taught in India, that's where he ripped off his theorem from, there were far more sophisticated theorems, but he grabbed what he understood. Cleopatra was a greek drama queen who destroyed Egypt and looted its accomplishments and took it to greece. Ancient pre-islamic Egypt has lot in common with Indian civilization, has it not been crippled and destroyed, Egyptians were on their way to the realization Indians had, in-terms of Enlightenment. Europeans calling others degrading names is nothing new, where ever European see culture and accomplishments they themselves lacked and wanted to loot, they simply called the Native culture some name before genociding then often with germs and diseases.
@@acharya8959 thats bot true lmao.nobody in greece knew much about india except it existed and the world behind it,this is hust a lie
@@acharya8959 also alexander won the fight ar hydaspes and there arent any sources for ur claim that he got defeated except the opposite that he won.again a lie
@@acharya8959 pythagoras was never in india toooooo?wtf i never heard such thing beacuse it is the biggest bullshit
@@acharya8959 bro,cleopatra was nicest greek pharao because,except the otehr greek pharaos,she tried to help egypt and their citicens and was one of teh few who actually was able to speak ägyptian and yea ägypt was captured
There is nothing more fascinating in history than when geographically distant cultures interact. You honestly make me proud of living in our age, when access to such information is so easily available thanks to people like you!
Wow, thank you! And I totally agree -- these distant interactions are also what I find most fascinating about history.
True.
@@OddCompass please do on indo aryans
Tamils also manufactured wootz steel aka Damascus steel, fine silk and cotton textiles. Today nobody knows how wootz steel was manufactured. I think indica of megasthenes is lost too.
@@ajithsidhu7183 The Aryan invasion of India occurred during the fall of Troy when there was a global famine of seven years. A dynasty in China was also toppled at this time. Only the Bible perfectly explains why Egypt rose while others fell.
And all this has somehow filtered dun to an instinctive respect of modern Greeks for modern Indians 🇬🇷 🇮🇳
Ad vice versa brother. Vice versa..
Indian education system needs to be updated 🕉️❤️🇮🇳🚩
I think Ancient India was economically richer than Ancient Romans... atleast that's what the data shows
Right therefore Indian thought they are superior 2 nd superior Greeks and Romans because if science and research
Ancient Rome had a massive slave-based and plunder-based economy. Roman Armies would occasionally invade places like Mesopatamia and Germania in order to plunder them. However, most significantly were the shear number of slaves in the Roman Empire. Of course, many wealthy provinces like Italy, Greece, Anatolia and Egypt had strong agricultural, commerce and manufacturing sectors (some of the best in the world), but its still important to acknowledge the rampant slavery and loot.
India has never really had a strong slave system. The only times when there was near rampant slavery in India were during the Delhi Sultanate invasions. Slavery did exist in India but it was never on a massive scale and most slaves were just debt slaves who had to serve as slaves I order to repay their debts
History shows that agricultural societies closer to the equator were richer for the most of history than societies more distant. India and China were such large economies for that reason. However with the rise of industrialization, capitalist nations were able to develop rapidly and overtake the more tropical countries. After all, industries were important after the 17th century, as countries wanted to expand their powers through military might, which is why the country that produced more guns rose to the top. It was an interesting turning point in history, as suddenly giant, established agricultural civilizations found themselves defeated by a small European country.
Ooooooooooh that's why the great india got invaded 200+ times ooooooooh ok!!!!
"The battle of 10 kings"
"The history of Nalanda"
There are more such things which were never taught to us in schools.
I'm glad I found this channel.
They also didn't teach you that Hitler liberated India by bankrupting the British Empire, and that Brits were worse than Nazis, and that extremely-overrated Gandhi was a racist (which is why Ghana took down a statue of him after finding out). Countries teach people to be like Gandhi because governments don't want people to believe in a method that works to change government: violence. Do I advocate violence? Depends.
They only teach Mughal and British empire
@@scintillam_dei This is So true.
@@scintillam_dei Gandhi is no one in india . Indians don't like Gandhi.
@@scintillam_dei and also, chruchill killed many people as equal to hilter, but we only know about hilter.
I don’t care what anybody says, Greeks & Indians are connected for Millenia now! It’s incredible!!!! Outside of the Indo-Euro Greek & Sanskit root words & cognates, there is also the Myth of Dionysus going to India. Also from the time of Alexander the Great onward there was a lot of direct connection.
So much cultural enrichment & ideas must have passed back & forth from these very distant civilizations. The Buddhist Proselytizing by the Indians on many of the Eastern Greeks is fascinating as is the influence on the Neo-Platonic Movement!
Ancient Greek Scholars were always fascinated by the Wise Men they met in India! That is simply a FACT found in the Ancient Sources.
We are not the BS POS Western Brits with their Propaganda! We Greeks know Ancient History & KNOW who the admirable Ancient Civilizations were, and India is on the Top of that List for us!!! 💯
Greetings to our friends in India, may you always stay blessed!
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"No society can prosper if it aims at making things easier-instead it should aim at making people stronger" - Samrat Ashoka🚩🇮🇳
What I admire about Indians is that they know they have had considerable influence and continue to have influence today, but they're very low key and modest about their contribution to humanity. I think that's a wonderful example to follow.
Are you sure? Sort by new in this comments section to see peasants with an inferiority complex.
@@alekisighl7599 they're just speaking the truth
@@studygram_ sure
What I admire about Indians is their women if you look past the mile of make-up.
@@alekisighl7599 Remember even alexander had to suffer a loss in India and returned back.
A nation that has produced many religions and holy men don't lectures from descendants of Neanderthals.
When you said "Sadly, this history is often neglected"....I genuinely felt that.
Not to mention biased
Indians may have adopted the Greek astronomical signs but the pure scientific knowledge behind the Surya Siddanta is astounding. Not to mention the vedanga Jotisha which is even older
yes indians had knowledge about astronomy and 9 planets before greeks,surya siddhanta book is mind bogling its 10000 years old or maybe older than that
@@GyanTvAmitcan you name those 9 planets?
I think intellectual exchange was both ways. Mathematical concepts like Algebra, concept of Zero, decimals originated in India which travelled to the West via Greeks & Romans.
Even the 'Pythagoras theorem' is actually found in Indian ancient texts much earlier it was discovered in the West.
😑lol
@@nowwhat6716 Don't believe the comment then, czcams.com/video/CPOkASORb6Q/video.html
True
Yes true....our knowledge was much more older and mature 👏
Our old text has many indications to support this...these people infact learned from us and translated into Greek language and not Greek concepts in sanskrit....
@@nowwhat6716 read brahmagupta book on maths you'll know.
would be so cool to see a netflix series with oddball historical vantage points, like the daily life and romantic affairs of a roman sculptor living in muziris, or an indian scholar's life in athens/greece, or the life of a greek buddhist family in bactria/afghanistan...
What an awesome idea
Netflix won't do anything which is pro India
They would only show demeaning and racist points like Sati and Caste.
@@distorteddingo9230 and what do you mean by the castism & racism or things like sati , which historical Netflix shows you are referring to, ohhh maybe tell me so that I could judge it even before watching it & i might even watch it but i will try my best to not to understand the context of the show so that I can give my complete "support" to the movement of boycotting Netflix . Don't worry bud it's all okay we must try our best to boycotting Netflix because it's anti national , it's urban naxal & maybe even funded by china or Pakistan who knows ?? 😱😱 That would be really bad right ? Ehh ? We should focused on boycotting "maybe" okay "maybe" fictional show talking that talks about not so fictional problems like castism or maybe talks of real issues sometimes but don't forget this is new India people has no rights to speaks about the non-fictional issues but then again which is possible because of new India being totally advanced in every sector and is a superpower & is prevailing in everything which probably is a fictional thing thing just to make the fools out of common public , but don't worry this is new great India here we don't talk about "not so fictional" issues but always talks about "maybe" totally fictional issues , bud you have a great day. **MIC DROP**
@@distorteddingo9230 Which is a good thing as most of the problems in modern India are derived from these two abhorrent systems.
I’ve been feeling a connection between India, Rome and Greece ever since I first read Percy Jackson. I’m so glad it’s actually true.
There is also the Indo-European connection.
There are a lot of connection especially the similarities between the deities
When I read Percy Jackson, I had a strong connection with every character and always imagined them in an Indian way don't know why though.
Yeah, pagan religions are similar
Lol don’t mistake this brief period in history as a “connection” it was more a connection to indians than it was to greeks and romans in the Mediterranean. Romans and greeks in the Mediterranean could care less about india. Rome had no interest in india especially after expanding its borders to its max. And greeks were much more connected to their roman counterparts worried about roman and greek affairs.
Great work ... Greetings to all indian brothers from Greece, macedonia
There is a stone pillar called Heliodorus pillar in modern day Vidisha in central India. It was erected in 2nd century BCE by Heliodorus, a Greek Ambassador to the Shunga Empire. The pillar stands to this very day.
As an Indian-American, you're doing a significant service to your original motherland by making these videos! Thanks.
Is he of indian origin?
I've not heard him ever say so.
@@siddharthyadavchekkala2845 yes he is from India.
@@jayeshmarathe2744 how do u know ?
@@siddharthyadavchekkala2845 he is half Indian
His mother is Indian
@@harkabirsingh1122
How do you know?
With all the evidence of large scale exchange, it really makes me excited to imagine the adventurous outliers that couldn't be documented. Did a South Indian ever visit Ireland? See the northern lights? Did a Roman provincial ever make their way to Assam? The further we push the boundaries of regular interaction, the further my imagination pushes the anonymous adventurers.
That’s a great point! I do wonder how many interesting adventures have been lost to time
imagine the webseries :)
indeed, would make a great netflix series!
ever visit Ireland??? Bunch of TCS Chennai engineers live in the same building as mine in Belfast, with their families .....
I too have wondered on the same lines so many times. We can only see history through documented parts. But then human history has been shaped by so any people who didn't leave any records or probably didn't know how to.
It is really fascinating when you think like that. Almost as overwhelming as looking up at the night sky and wondering about the universe, at least to me!
Such a detailed explanation in lucid animation👏. It pushes me to enquire about ur intellectual & academic exploits, if u can. Great work indeed. More uploads would be really exciting. Looking forward to it.
The only disagreement I would have with this is that, the Greeks and Romans were at the edges of the ancient world.
Even the Chinese sent their best scholars to study in India.
Yet we continue to insist that knowledge flowed from ancient Europe to ancient India, which does not make any sense at all.
Couldn't agree more.👍
In Greek mythology, There are two kings by the name of Pandion I and Pandion II. Coincidentally there was an ancient kingdom in India by the name of Pandian.
@@KiranSingh-zr8jr because they are tamils and you are north
Coincidence ah irukum
@@LOL-cv9it illa bro anga ori nu oruthar irundharu inga val vil ori inga adhavan anga adhun
@@kimjongun9517
Bro ithellam conspiracy la kekka nalla irukum but historical ah ithellam invalid.Rendu words um vera vera language la different ana etymology irukum.so ippudi claims panna nammalla adi muttal illa history thirudar ennu ninaipanga
Indra is Zeus of Greece and Jupiter of Rome.
I saw the greek inscriptions on the pillars of the troglodyth buddhist temple in Karla. Very mind-expanding! The temple had been founded around the 300 years A.C. The donators were greek and they did not mind a little bit of self glorification .
Also, when in India, I found a book about the roman coins discoveries in India. They were of course a lot around the coasts, but also sometimes deep inside Indian continent. Huge topic indeed. At this time, travelling all over the planet was quite more easy than today. Interesting documentary, short but well made. Thanks
@lmao k Thanks.
@Captain M2 I think you made a mistake. You answered to me, a particular individual e()ti loyon; clearly you wanted to answer to the video maker him/herself. You have to correct if you want everybody to read your comment.
This channel is criminally under subscribed! Love your work!
Most of the Mathematics and Astrology travelled from India to West (Greco-Roman World)
But Indians always mark what's foreign origin and what's Indian origin
Therefore names highlight the origin
You meantioned as if everything was translated from Greek to Sanksrit while there was an exchange of ideas
Sanskrit texts were already a lot in knowledge when Greek kingdoms become a thing
Pythagoras Theorem , Fibonacci series originated in India ; but West never had this habit of giving credits
Yeah, this video is bogus.
Pythagoras theorem originated in Babylonia.
@@anirudh177 peoples can develop thing independently
@@anirudh177 what do you think how did peoples build ships without knowing buoyancy.
there were already peoples who knew about buoyancy
@@-rate6326 "peoples can develop thing independently"
I agree, when did I say they can't?
I have recently been reading Mahabharata and I was surprised to find even it acknowledges Pallav, Dravida, Shak, Yavanas, Shabar, Khas, Yunani, Kirati, Huns, Barbers, Sinhali and Chin(Chinese) sadly this inclusive worldview is not taught by socity
Even Hindu people don't keep Mahabharat book in home and don't study then why will other community people read that book. Moreover people know Mahabharat is mythological story except hindus which obviously will deny, so they don't prefer to read Mahabharat.
@@aryanchakraborty5175 i am sharing my experience while traveling to Delhi from Maharashtra in train. In train some poor guy was selling Mahabharat book and while selling the book people used to see the book but deny buying saying it might lead to ( kalaish, distress) in their family.
@@subodh0001 because it is said that Mahabharat of bought but not read, will bring distress in house. The myths that have been followed are immense too. Nevertheless, I bought it and I have 2 different ones. One of it is still unread. I reread the old one. But everything is fine
These days non Hindus are being degraded and excluded from histories
@@aryanchakraborty5175 they are referred to. May be you read some garbage written by a butthurt bhakt
I bow to the ancient people & culture of of India and Greco-Romans.
Love to all those who proud of their heritage.
This was sooooo interesting and well made! Thank you for this :)
It is absolutely fascinating to know how truly interconnected the peoples of the ancient world are - far more connected than we give them credit for.
Really sad that we do not learn this in school... Luckily I stumbled upon this channel that give legit knowledge about India which is rare these days. This is a really underrated channel that needs more popularity.
Dont jump the gun, verify everything mentioned here esp because there is a lot of evidence about advanced astronomy in India even during 11th century bc to 5561 BC and after..
yavanas are mentioned even in mahabharatha, thats not a co-incidence and call for a scrutiny rather than any sort of conclusion...
Read your history text book more throughly before commenting this is not in our history books. There are whole 2 chapters about this in 6th class.
"Really sad that we do not learn this in school" is just a very long way of saying that you didn't even read the Index page of any of your history textbook, because if you had, you would have known that NCERT books cover every aspect of Indian history in details.
We do learn this in school.
This is the history that needs to be recognized more by Romans and Greeks. I truly love this!
as a Greek I can say that in Greece we have started to teach it in schools all Greeks accept it
Very informative, Its a lot of hard work to put all this together. Thank you. :)
Your are sharing a lot of good knowledge about ancient Greek and ancient India, I appreciate that! but I also like if you share the reference atleast from where you get the information! you have great voice!
Astrology was heavily influenced by Greeks... Bt Scientific Exchange part was a bit illogical to make a conclusion... Indian mathematics and science was introduced to Europe by Islamic kingdoms later. The works of *aryabhatta* was not influenced by any other form and was independent. The value of pi, diameter of earth... Quadratic equations were not influenced by Greeks.... Bhaskaras mathematics was continuation of aryabhattas. Same goes for *surya siddhanta* ..there was a sine table in suryasidhanta where as in Hipparchian table was of chords... Bt sine table was found to be more accurate... U r quoting pingee on direction of flow of information... Bt Yukio Ohashi considers just the opposite... +1 info... Before Christianity, Romans were influenced heavily by Indians... They didn't bury their dead. They started cremation and collected the ash in an urn just like Indians do even today.... Later they adopted Christianity and started practicing the faith. The *Pompeii Laxhmi* is the past that many Italians want to know.
1 the diameter of the earth and pi was found out by the greeks but yes,also by other cultures too.2 the romans wasnt heavely by the indians?!ancient rome got heavely influenced by the greeks but not the ancient idnians,there wasnt any direct cultural lin kbetween ancient rome and greece and especially rome except of a brief moment(like 2 years).there was at least 1 hige persian empire or other between rome/greece and india.also they buried and cremated their dead because it wasnt rly that important except ot was like a emperor or a very loved general.for the romans only a big long lasting grave was important and cremation isnt rly something india invented ,becauce every culture knew of this procedure.and again a comment like this gets 10 likes....wow
@@nihil_hd1598 got get some research done kiddo. Dnt humiliate urslf like this😂. I desperately want to counter u with facts bt I really don't want to engage with such person who type such things with their half eye open. Now get up. Else ur mommy will be angry... Grrrrrrrhhhhh🥱 I'm still laughing reading this comment though.
@@thewarriorofbharat u are humiliating urself by ur comment becauce u dont give arguments against my comment.u only attack me as a person which is just a stupid ad human argument and not great one either.i could have done the same comment as u do but no ,i i tried to argue with u.if this is ur last answer i basically win the argument because ur answer just shows that u dont know to answer against my argument and u cant even say something against one wrong argument i did...wow
got get some research done kiddo. Dnt humiliate urslf like this😂. I desperately want to counter u with facts bt I really don't want to engage with such person who type such things with their half eye open. Now get up. Else ur mommy will be angry... Grrrrrrrhhhhh🥱 I'm still laughing reading this comment though.
@@grimepilogue2831 ur opinion
@@thewarriorofbharat Imagine trying to insult someone and then typing this ridiculous comment.
It's crazy how connected the ancient world was and how often we only learn a small bit through a Euro-Centric lens. I would love to read about the reactions when these travelers saw things that were completely foreign to them, like seeing an Elephant or Tiger for the first time.
Romans and Greeks have seen African elephants.
And chances are the Greeks could have seen a siberian tiger around the Black Sea!
@@arthurfleck1554 Greeks in North India traded war elephants after a Battelle with a Indian King I forgot his name. Later that Greek General take those Elephants in Greece probably
@@whocares3132 that king was Chandragupta Maurya founder of Maurya Empire and grandfather of ashoka. He defeated greek king selecus and married his daughter and gave them 500 elephants
@@arthurfleck1554 Correct, though some animals like the rhino were new and something they didn't feel too good about.
Also, read the mythicized story about the Odontotyrannos. When they got to India they had to deal with people, animals, climates etc. that all became increasingly "different", but also diseases they weren't used to. Must've been quite humbling and scary to find out how big the world really was.
Thanks for this comprehensive video. Can see your hard work shining through every second of the vieo
You should do one about Ethiopia and the Swahili coast too. I want to see how the subcontinent interacted with them.
I can vouch for muziris which is here in Kochi, Kerala south india. And the state government has done an amazing work in keeping the history alive. With museum's and the whole city of muziris reconstructed. So much history around us. Thank you for bringing out this to the world.
And then northies (whose politicians are too busy in corruption) cry about how "cOmmUniStS aRe eRasiNg HiStORy"
@@vandemataram2035 they are, communism by it's very definition will erase the existing culture. Look at Mongolia, Russia, china etc
@@adityakarve6808 Huh? Last time I saw, the Russians held their culture up dearly. They are among the most traditionalist in Europe, and so are most of the other eastern block nations. Getting your information from where, PragerU?
@@adityakarve6808 And last time I also saw, China was having a revival in Confucianism and Confucian values as well. Seems like you are mistaking "culture" with "traditional morals". Communism is against traditional morals, like say Sati, or Russian serfdom, but fun fact: Cultural endowments in the USSR were the highest in all Europe. Also fun fact: Kerala and West Bengal both have the highest nobel prizes in culture related sectors. Both were communist.
@@vandemataram2035 China is having a revival, after a several decades of the CPC absolutely butt fucking Daoism and Confucianism. This is partly due to the Tianmen Square Massacre, whereafter China decided to push for more nationalistic education. Is china even communist? Half the commies I meet say 'nOt ReAL CoMMuniSm'. They got a 'free market economy', the only aspect of communism I see, is strong government control over this 'free market', and 5 year plans. In that case, is this even communism, or capitalism with strong state control?
Russia is one of the most unequal nations today, things were really no different under communism where party officials and favorites were given priorities and luxuries not afforded to the average comrade. They also invested heavily in needless defense production (I get it, NATO is right there, but no one needs to produce 20000 tanks every decade) at the cost of civilians standards of living. Not to mention the absolute failure in the R&D sector. The government is not all knowing to decide where research should go. After the dick measuring contest that was the space race, Russia failed to properly computerize or improve standards of living.
They moved from communism to something very similar, oligarchy.
Indian 'communism' is thankfully not close to those levels of mental retardation, partly because it exists on a state level at best.
Communism does not work, it is a good catalyst for social reforms maybe, but on a long term, it's dog shit. Ask the Chinese Communist Party and Deng Xiaoping if you don't believe me.
In Arikamedu port both Chinese and yavanars (Tamilars called Greek people as yavanars) are coming for trading Tamil traders never allowed them to exchange their goods directly. Chola traders keep two ports one for Roman and another for Chinese They buy both countries traders good and sell Chinese goods to Roman and Roman goods to Chinese
Poom puhar was lost to the sea surge
@Ajith KP
Yes
Everyone in india call them yavanas
S,cholas were sea explorer,they had strong trade connection with ancient Chinese and romans ,there were stong ties with southern part of India, recent times excavation r solid proof.
Read a little bit about it in the book "Transnationalism in Ancient & Medieval Societies" & knew about the vague existence of Greco-Indian kingdoms, but never knew the details. Mind. Blown. The world was always more connected than the nationalistic elites would have you think. Thank you sir.
Actually india was the most economically, militarily, culturally the most prosperous.
Hope more indians realise that
Are chavda guruji se hum bhi seekhte hai
no?1 there was always a china next to u which was basically teh sugar daddy of the ancient world and after teh middle ages. 2 military?this is a joke right?ur cast system didnt allowed india to became a huge military power.the military was teh core of teh roman culture.3 u can never say this culture is more culturally prosperous then another if both cultures are empires why? because all cultures in human history were better in one thing than in one other.also india was enevr culturally united until teh british,huge misconception
@@nihil_hd1598 dear, you have misconceptions... In the last centuries, India has seen many invaders and wealth suckers other than Britishers before the britishers. They divided India that is Bharat!
@@nihil_hd1598 dear, you have misconceptions... In the last centuries, India has seen many invaders and wealth suckers other than Britishers before the britishers. They divided India that is Bharat!
@@Earthbuddy01 im not ur dear!!!😡😡😡😡im your daddy!!and india was never untited before the british🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🏳️🌈
Thank you so much for making these vids man, as a Indian diaspora guy whose a passionate amateur historian and cant penetrate Indian language stuff I think I speak for myself and many others when I say you make this way more accessible and entertaining and make me proud of our history!
Thank you, that's high praise!
8:35 I like the fact you just translated "Greek alphabet" in Greek and used it in the parchment paper
Lol, you caught me :P
@@OddCompass 😂😂🙏🙏
@@OddCompass 😂😂🙏🙏
Hahahaha I noticed too
Whenever you see Sanskrit, it's literally the word sanskrit phonetically spelled out in devanagari which is the writing system for sanskrit.
I think based on my very limited expertise of History of this era, transfusions of knowledge from Alexandria was both ways rather one way to India.
Thank you for extensive list of references, I’ll go through them.
What an amazing thorough research, thank you, I've learned a lot.
This channel is really great. You make videos without any prejudices against Indians, unlike many others from the west. Maybe it's because you know more than those people about our culture, for which you can understand us and this country better.
I’m Indian ethnicity myself, so that may be why I have a different lens than most other westerners!
@@OddCompass true😁😁🙏
@Niku Singh There is not much evidence for that.
@@kalyanvadlamani7607 Lol there are plenty of evidence...itrs just that it is neglected due to eurocentrism
@@mrcollector4311 I mean, the first examples we have of Pythagorean triples aren't Indian either, they're Ancient Egyptian papyruses and Mesopotamian tablets, dating from roughly 1000 years earlier than the earliest recorded Indian example of them. That being said, those examples are from prior to both the collapse of the Harappans in India and the late bronze age collapse which saw the end of a lot of Mediterranean and middle eastern civilisations, so its impossible to tell the full extent of each cultures knowledge and discoveries beyond what has been preserved from what they left behind.
If memory serves it's also called the 'Shang Gao theorem' in China due to the astronomer that's credited with developing it in Chinese academic tradition. Would that be an example of Sinocentrism?
Considering that maths is about fundamental truths about the universe and not a particular cultures ideas it's entirely possible that people from different places independently came to the same conclusion. Or were aware of the same hypothesis and independently came up with a proof. Srinivasa Ramanujan for example developed and investigated the Bernoulli numbers without being aware of Jacob Bernoulli's development of them a few hundred years earlier (when he was a teenager no less!). Another example would be both Leibniz and Newton independently coming up with theories of calculus, Newton of course being somewhat self-obsessed immediately tried to discredit Leibniz as a fraud. Let's not be like Newton, especially because the truth is so far back in the past that it's likely we'll never know the answer.
To be in close interaction with a foreign culture was highly valued- light skin, light hair, Greek dress was seen as exotic and association was highly prestigious🤣🤣🤣🤣we haven't changed much in 2000 years, it seems😆
Rare items can be sold for higher prices in local market ,what does this have to do with light skin ?
We also have to remember that the Greeks felt the same way about Persia and India.
@@syedahmed8650 not India
@@user-lh2yf9ch4k
Indo Greeks would beg to differ
interestingly, white people used to import abyssnian/ethiopian women in the same manner.
This video was really really Informative!! Thank you very much sir.. For this👌🏻👌🏻
Wow, thank you for creating/posting this piece. I did not know this and it spurred me on to looking up more information. Thank you!!! 😊
This was incredibly interesting, I've only ever heard casual references to the connections between these cultures but this taught me a lot, great job on this one!
Glad you enjoyed it -- hope you're doing well!
I knew absolutely none of this prior to this video. This is all super fascinating! I had no clue there was so much interaction and mutual influence between Indian and Hellenistic cultures. Wow. Also, I have to say, the illustrations and artwork are improving by leaps and bounds with every video.
A very well composed video, Thank you for the knowledge!
Really nice video. I knew there were ancient cultural ties (the origins story of Dionysus is a good example) between India and the Greco Roman world but did not know they were that extensive.
I m happy to know now that there was a bit of a hype about the Amazon concept in ancient India :P
Tamil literature also told that the Pandiyan King sent some Men to meet Augustus Ceasar for closer ties by land but only 3 of them finally reached
Romans : We are literally going Bankrupt due to trading Spices and Carpets with India.
Satvahana Kingdom : Babe, Spices are 40% off due to amazing the harvesting season, you buying?
Romans : Yes, Honey.
get 60% off, just bring that blonde and any redhead with you
why satvahana kingdom its like you are excluding south india tamil kingdom mention correctly . and spices were harvested in south india only. pepers in the malabar region and perls diamond in the tamilnadu region . so dont change the history for your mistake or liking .
@@sudarshanr5187 When the joke literally goes over your head.
@@papyrustheroyalguardsmen3446 ok then let me also make joke with half truth's
@@sudarshanr5187 Tamil Detected Opinion Rejected.
Greeks and Romans are our trading friends ❤️❤️❤️💪🏾 . They came to south India through sea route and got black pepper and more spices. And search about sank port called 'poombukar - Tamil nadu' . '
Excuse me sir ,they first and started friendly relationship with west india...obiviusly western country first steped in india in maharashtra and goa
Great video, thanks! Really gives one some more perspective on our histories.
Once again thank you for taking this up. You are the earliest youtuber to focus on India. Feels nice to know that people were connected even before internet era. Just one thing though. You mentioned Greeks/ Romans discovered monsoon winds can be leveraged for transportation on ships. It could very well be Indian merchants are the ones who discovered the trade routes considering how it benefited India more.
You are correct -- the Arabs and Indians were already using the monsoon winds. The Greeks and Romans "discovered" it in the sense that they learned how to navigate it the way that Arabs and Indians had been doing so.
Many CZcamsrs are doing it or have been doing it, in Indian languages.
@@OddCompass I don't know why, but, this video is giving some vibes that Indians took knowledge and didn't give.
@@OddCompass you're doing an awesome job. Due to eurocentrism and purity of chinese culture, china and west are much explored in global history but india is largely ignored.
Wow the trade was so flourish
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Now I get to know where Romans get the tigers from…
For the Coliseum entertainment.
Gladiators 🐅🛡⚔️
😆😆👍🏻👍🏻
Haha yep! The coliseum tigers may have been partly sourced from India
Oo nice analogy
Such a refreshing pace of narration compared to the overly emphasised tones like Real Life Lore. Subbed!
pakistani are upset after knowing the histroy didn't start from 1947
0:01 that Akhand Bharat map though 🧡
Akhand Bharat was larger..
Iraq iran,Afghanistan, Pakistan,tajikistan, india, nepal, bhutan, tibet and some part of china, Bangladesh, sri lanka, Myanmar, Vietnam, laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, and few more were the part of akhand bharat
And who are contradicting this, plz see the hindu god sculpture found in all of these countries
@@vitaminprotein2217 include Europe and US too. Sanghidiot 🤣💩
@@homoteaser he is right
@@homoteaser read history mulla xD
Amazing content! totally loved it. See a lot of hardwork here, graphics and editing were mesmerizing. Fortunate to be a part of this long journey.
Nice one. Got to know a lot more. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for this informational video for these lost history of these ancient civilisations 🙏👍🏻
India is a Mystical Land where cultures mixed, knowledge exchanged and races united for thousands of years!
Races united for thousands of years? Wtf
@ROHIT yea dude it's not like there has been constant warfare over the centuries in this region. Open up a history book sometimes. Makes you not sound like an idiot
@@uptheblues1875 yup everybody in India is of mixed race, none is pure white or pure black or pure asian
@@musirhythm nobody is pure white pure black or pure asian anywhere anymore
@@uptheblues1875 they are but not as mixed as Indian. We are mixed with all types of dna from caucasian to aboriginal Australian native. We are more diverse than any part of the world.
I love how some scholars considered Greeks as "impure" yet still acknowledged that they know some shit and thus they should be respected. Shows how complex worldview Indians had (and have too). We never have been simple people, :D
Disregarding people simply due to colour/ethnicity is a relatively christian thing. The Spaniards, British and now Americans do it. Honestly it's so depressing.
“Relatively Christian thing” no, all humans are guilty of it.
Greeks used to consider Non-Greeks as Barbarians at that time.
@@mxxmauuhan3597 Interestingly, the word Barbarian originated in Ancient Greece and was used to refer to Non Greek speaking people or foreigners. It comes from the Greek word Barbaros which means Babbler and is also related to the Sanskrit/Hindi word 'Barbara'(बड़बड़ाना) which means to mumble. Basically, to a native year the speakers of a foreign tongue made unintelligible sounds like "Barr Barr Barr.."
Interesting origin of the word , and how it means something different in the modern world now.
@@Cheiko18 No it is NOT! everyone did it to different degrees. It was often at its worst in the colonial west, but that was not a result of Christianity but of colonial age thought.
Love your video! Can we have a video of how the Indian side saw its trade with Greeks and Roman’s next?
Excellent Infographics. Hats off on the narration. 😮👍
Syncretic nature of the ancient religions makes for great cultural exchange and great art, etc. Sad that it's only the Indian branches that have really survived the onslaught
Chinese and Japanese too
@@KiranSingh-zr8jr Yes of course.
Thanks to idiots who twisted Abrahamic religious beliefs.
@@KiranSingh-zr8jr chinese Religion made it by hanging to a single thread. Same applies to Hinduism and shinto religion.
Lithuanians too have an unbroken link with their ancient religion which has survived till today. Interestingly, they also call their gods "dievas". Must be because of the shared Indo-European connection.
I had no idea European and South Asian culture was so intertwined so far back
It's not European but Greeks. Remember rest of Europe are tribals at this point of time.
@@123fle6 well Greeks and Romans
@123fle Greeks are still European, that’s like saying Germans aren’t European.
@@koolaids6616 it's like sri lankan claiming China's history because both are in asia. Thing is rest of Europe at that point in time had no civilization. Germanic tribes, Celtic tribes, nordic tribes, Baltic tribes, Slavic tribes, Iberian tribes have nothing to do with Greeks. European identity is recent made up not ancient or historical.
"INDIAN" Culture not South Asian!
Good content. Plz make videos more often!!!
Some people try to promote the idea Macedonia and Greece were the same thing.
No. Macedonia is only a part of Greece. 😘
Good video .
I don't know why some Indians are straight up denying that Both Side influenced each other .
Some people only want to beleive that their side only influenced other .
true
those indians think our ancient indians are FOOL ENOUGH TO NOT LEARN FROM OTHERS ??
Majority of Indians are very sensitive .
Thousands of years of foreign rule.
So they live in this made up world that before those 1000 years they were the greatest and only those 1000 years made them not so great
@@amritraj41 I mean, you can see from the video that they were really great. No doubt.
@@penpithmind1941 he talk about the present people of India
Asked for it, and you delivered! Thank you ^-^ I enjoyed this video a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@OddCompass Please make videos on number of Temples broken, how people tried to save them and how Murti from one part of country was found in another.
Look for "Hindu temples and what happened to them" by Sita Ram Goel also "Flight of Deities and Rebirth of Temples" by Meenakshi Jain....
In fact the temple to the Sun God of Kashmir is now a part of the British Museum.
Here he says most of the knowledge about astronomy and others was converted from Greek to Sanskrit .. 😂 I find it hard to believe.. while it was the other way around.. our civilization is more than 7500 old
Probably tho . Whatever we say , Greeks were pretty awesome at science
Fascinating! Great work!
Wow wow wow.. This is a such an underrated channel.
The kind of effort you have put in the research & presentation is next level & amongst the best on youtube.
To me, your channel fills the gap in the history lessons that were taught to me & many like me in India.
How does this channel not even have 100k subscribers?
Come on guys...this is a channel, that needs more views & subscribers than those reaction channels that have many thousands of subscribers.
RESPECT!
Thank you so much! Sharing the video definitely helps 🙏🏽
@@OddCompass You deserve it Bro & thats the least I could do.
Just a small suggestion - I think you should also open a PayPal/Patreon account.
I will be amongst the first to contribute👍🏽
In sangam literature it is mentioned that Yavanargal(Greeks/Romans) worked as mercenaries/sell-swords/bodyguards to the royalty. Yavana armies were purchased and traded among the southern kings.
Yes indeed, a pandyan king called Nedunjeliyan even had some roman legionaries as his bodyguard.
If Rome had a trade deficit with India and was losing gold for India luxury items, then how can you claim that Greeks/Roman influenced art and carvings in India? Shouldn't it be other way around? I feel that Indians actually influenced the art style or maybe that art style was common in ancient world.
Namaskaram 🙏 You have made an amazing video.
Just finished the video, great work. Whenever you upload, you always do great work in discussing topics around India that many would not know, truly excellent content 🤩😁
There is nothing I love learning about more, I think, than the ancient interactions between Greece and India.
Indian scriptures were translated by greeks and sent to other parts of world
This video clearly explains the contact between Tamil, Aryan, and Punjabi with the greeks and roman ages. But this is mostly a westernized version, I hope someday anyone from the west acknowledges the importance of the Tamil and Aryan ancient civilizations
Aryan nonsense has already been debunked for more than a decade. Still holding on to it is like people holding on to old books which say the Earth is flat.
Tamils are Indo-Aryan too. Dravidian is linguistic identity not racial. Earlier Indo-Aryan people used to speak Dravidian branch of language. Later Sankrit became popular in Northern India and Southern India preserved their Dravidian linguistic identity.
@@penpithmind1941 No Tamils Are The Earliest Surviving Descendants Of The ASI - Ancestral Southern-Indians.
@@hindurebel Debunked By Hindutva Right Wing Clowns
All The Archeological , Genetic , Linguistic Evidence Congregrated Cites To The Advent Of Ancestral Indo - Aryans Posterior To The Decline Of The Indus Valley Of The Ancestral Southern - Indian ( ASI )
Population.
Exactly.
1) It's like nonsense Aryan Dravidian Divide.
2) The Sinauli shows way more advanced Chariots than rest of the world for that time period.
3) We invented the zero, decimal system,value to pi .
4) Ujjain was the GMT 0 of the world - MahaKALeshwar till 1800's.
5) From shampoo (Champu ie Champi of head) to Buttons...
6) Iron Age of India was wayy to advanced. From philosophy to religion to medical things like Surgery by Sushtra, Ayurveda by Dhanvantari, Kapila Muni, Brighu Rishi Astrology, Leelavati Mathematics.... Etc.
7) North South divide is stupid... More than 70 to 80% of any language in South is similar to Sanskrit... AND THE MEANING OF THE WORDS DONT CHANGE UPON TRANSLATION. (As compared to 30% of European languages and in whom it's hard to find words which mean the same. Something as simple as Aatma and Soul have huge differences).
8) Definition of Bharat is in Vedas and Vishnu Purana...
9) From Sarees to God's to social structures... Its unique to India
10) Yes there was lot of trade and commerce. But India was not inspired from Greece... It was vice versa. India was 25 to 35% of world economy. Second was China... Rest 50% was for rest of the world... Which includes Egypt, persia, Celtics, Romans and Greece.
People always talk about merchants traveling the ancient and medieval world far and wide but often forget that this was just as big among artists and craftsmen. A lot of Europeans served at Asian courts. You could end up with French blacksmiths at Mongol courts and Italian glass manufacturers in India etc etc.
Nope, glass manufacturing was a trade secret.
google Glass and Venice.
And poor people (black smiths, 'artists') could have never those paid for those journeys.
People who travelled those distances were rich, multilingual and sometimes had a 'letter of credence', otherwise they would be robbed and killed or robbed and enslaved!
Thanks to you and the research effort you spend on to place all those fact here .
Love and Respects for Greece and Italy from India !!!
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Very interesting. We often forget how interconnected the world has been historically. Love videos on subjects in addition to warfare such as trade. I’m surprised India hasn’t featured in a stand-alone game (I’m aware it’s in The colonial games but a whole India map with dozens of settlements to capture the scale would be great) similar to Shogun as their so much that could be done. Classical era maps; medieval and gunpowder ages.
Excellent video, unfortunately we don't get to know about our amazing historical aspects like these in our edu system, so here we have channels like you to acquire knowledge.👍🏼😄
Keep it up.
Dear Creator,
I appreciate the attention to details (like that illustration of Tamil inscription at 6:50) and research behind this video. While i knew all points broadly, but many of the facts came new to me, so really Thankyou.
Your pronunciation of Indian names were really better than 99.9% of European and Americans.
The math stuff I dont believe because most of the mathematical concepts came frist in india according to historical dating
Don't you worry when people say you are underrated....your contents and animations are wonderful and i was eager for long to have an indian animation channel talking about our history....soon you and your contents will be well known and popular....just post videos regularly with quality contents like the ones provided so far....and never give up....see you soon in the big stage....All the very best!😊
Much appreciated! I'll keep improving and uploading!