Here's Why You Should Buy The 'Unreliable' Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2018
- The Fiat Coupe is well known for its poor build quality and terrible reliability, but as you're about to find out, these things couldn't be further from the truth!
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The world needs more new cars with 5-Cylinder engines
Lysergic Casserole your profile picture is my mood 24/7 💤
Lysergic Casserole AMEN
World needs more 6 cylinders #philneedsav6
Can't go wrong with anything that has 5 cylinders. They just sound great!!
Audi 100 5E anyone?
ssssshhh don't let people know about this car before i get one for cheap!!!
Stick with the civic 😉
Bro, you can keep them.
Exactly!!
Don’t worry, they’re still cheap.
I guess their reputation keeps the price low :D
I fell in love with this car at 18 yrs old and bought one at 19 in 2005 and I STILL HAVE IT - absolutely love it to bits. Its yellow with plus side skirts and corn splitters and a Maranello hood scoop. Never had any issues with it, done 100000km with it and three trips to nürburgring. Great vid cheers from Sweden! :-)))
Would you recommend buying one in 2019? Are there any major problems that come with high mileage and are expensive to fix? I plan on getting one as a daily driver.
Nice car you got. Yours has everything I would love to have in a Coupe
@@flv2172 where are you located?
I bought my 16 v turbo in 1995 and still got it too.
@@flv2172 the turbo version of this 5 cylinder engine really suffers from some electrical quirks, but it's due to some plugs exposed to high temperature and oil leaks. Everything is so tight in this engine that they got this kind of problem as the mileage increases. The NA version doesn't have those problems.
A full engine review after the buy is recommended.
Spot on vid, thanks for that.
I am driving one of these since 10+ years, currently alongside a 335i and 997 Porsche as daily drivers (plus a few classics), and I will confirm that this is a special car. During the time of my ownership and with about 65k miles on the clock now (bought at 30k) I have had no issues. None. It helps to have a good garage that knows a bit about italian exotica for maintenance. But: cheap to run....if you treat it well.
This cars' biggest problem are its owners. It is fast, cheap, flashy. Luckily this has been changing for some time now and you see the well kept examples without Ferrari stickers and hideous body kits that survived the days of hardship. This car has been molested A LOT.
As said correctly in the vid, the engines - the straight-5 came from Lancia and was supposed to go into the successor of the Integrale that, sadly, never came - are *extremely* sturdy and if you don't treat them like a boyracer and expect that investing 500 bucks will give you 350hp, will last almost forever. Again, warming them up, cooling them down (turbo), changing the oil, cambelt probably a year or two before its due, etc. must be in your DNA and feel natural to you. If you don't get that concept and/or find it annoying, buy a fast Golf.
However, all that I wrote above also goes for the Posche 997 and even for the rather ordinary BMW - you will not torture it, you will make sure it's got what it needs and you will not treat it in a way that you know will bite your wallet in the back in the long run. If you like and respect cars, this is what you do.
I will say this: out of these 3 the mentioned 20V Turbo is the most charismatic car. It is the one you will only get out on the weekend. You will rather get the Porsche out when it rains. It is not an expensive car, but it is the one that makes you sigh in awe when you close the door and push the button to start the turbo-5. As a package it feels like a piece of art. I've driven and I am driving a few flamboyant cars but I can attest this is truly up there. It's got the magic. Great, great car.
I'd rather hurry getting one before prices get rising! People have started to realize how good they are!
That's true for most exotica. Unlike old Mercs, which do tolerate a fair amount of abuse, most exotic cars don't. Bet that, if a Zonda cost 15k, it would end up thrashed by the same nasty guys who put bodykits in Smart Roadsters, BMW Z3s and so on. And therefore being as unreliable.
As a car collector, my advice is always to buy the lowest mileage and original as possible. Better to invest more in the first place, than to permanently burn money in something bought cheaply just to keep it on the road, while not really making it more valuable...
Wow!
Wow!
Wow!
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Loved my 2000 20V turbo plus in metallic moon grey that I bought with only 10K kms back in 2001 I believe. I had only had the manifold cracking problem. It was a GREAT car! It was the best car FIAT ever made and FIAT is one of the oldest car manufacturers. It was a really special car. Your advice is excellent and even though I was often driving it ridiculously fast (spanked a few S3s and S2000s) I always let her cool down before tacking her in for the night. I also always used the super expensive Selenia oil, recommended by FIAT (I wouldn't now, they were ridiculously expensive). Cheers.
Anyone agrees that this car is actually underrated?
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
That's the point of this video tho...
The Fiat Coupe is the Dillion Harper of cars: Not everyone likes her, but you have to admit she does what she does well.
mayo gaming lmao
Hm
Ben Dover1 Yes. I mean, just look at it.
But is already August Ames...
Jean Clawd Ghawd-Damn Chuck-a-Noris I guess you could compare this car to August Ames, it's not very reliable and prone to breakdowns.
As a proud Fiat coupe 20v turbo owner, I agree with this. They are great, charismatic, exciting cars to drive and love mine to bits. The looks both inside and out, the power and handling all fantastic. As long as you maintain the Coupe correctly, they are truly reliable. A great Fiat.
This engine is incredible... The line is Amazing and original.. is a italian car
Wait... You're 33?!
Billy RS Wait...You can count ?
Billy RS nah, 85.
Billy RS I know right! I thought he was like 26 or 28 😂😂
SRM Solar radiation management Geoengineering That’s rude
I know right. I thought he was 12 on the account of his height.
no maintenance - no reliability
do it ! That’s... not how it works.
Gotta agree, my 2000 Audi A4 common rail 1.9 TDI was at a quarter of a million miles. No oil changes, nothing. It survived and is still on the road. My daily shitter is a BMW 3 series, 17 years old, apart from a sticky caliper at the moment it costs less to keep on the road through neglect than my b7 quattro by about a tenth of the cost.
Steve Oh lord I feel sorry for the cars you own
DroidTech cool v used to have a spacewagon it went like 100000 miles no problems what so ever
Steve what bullshit are you talking about? No oil change for quarter millions of miles? All the parts get weard out in 250k miles, especialy if you are not maintanig your car, what kind of idiot are you? The first guy is right, no reliability without maintenance
that shape is ageing really well.....
Is it
it is
Extremely. Its a beautiful car. I want one now! 😂
every time I walk to my Fiat and it appears from the rows of black faceless SUVs, I'm like "holy shit, dude! now that's a sweet ride! wait... is it really mine?"
When fiat used to make good cars
500 abarth, punto abarth, 124 abarth
Full Throttle the fiata tho
Morgan Williams you can't change the perfect. Ask Porsche ;)
yes it is ffs
Tommaso Finora ur really dumb 😂
I remember this car vividly because it smoked me on Gran Turismo
It's my favourite on gt4. Best balance of everything but it doesnt sound as juicy as the real thing.
As a Fiat car mechanic I drove a brand new grey 20V Turbo+ for about half a hour and this was one of my greatest impressions I got from a car until now.
Wenn du aus D kommst, kannst gerne mal in meim 16v Turbo mitfahrn, der hat bisschen mehr als Serienleistung :P
@@benestockade Würde ich gern mal. Auch ein Barchetta mit etwas mehr Dampf macht vermutlich tierisch Spaß. Hätte ich diese 2 Autos damals bloß in einem anderen Licht gesehen. Jetzt bekommt man kaum noch Brauchbare.
@@nhcs2k ich hab noch 2x 1.8 16 v Coupés zu stehen, die ich grad wieder fit mache und dann verkaufe...grad kriegt man die ohne Turbo noch hinterhergeworfen, aber das wird sich auch ändern, weil's immer weniger werden.
@@benestockade Freut mich das zu lesen! 👍🏻 Ist schön wenn jemand mit Plan sich um den Erhalt kümmert und das gilt für eigentlich jedes Fahrzeug.
@@nhcs2k bin einfach verliebt in die Coupes seit 2011 und das wird sich so schnell auch nich ändern
Fiat Coupè
Alfa Romeo GT
Alfa Romeo Spider (the 2000's version)
Maserati Biturbo
and here it is: your classic garage is complete
Ayy ! thats sick, i own a maserati ghibli 2 cup, its like the biturbo but MORE POWA
Hell yeah! I personally would put in a Porsche 944S (I love em, somebody has to) and a Mercedes-Benz W114/115 and an Volvo Amazon
Plus way more
In Brazil some owners change the FIAT badges and put Ferrari's one instead. lol
Poor man's Ferrari
Here in Italy we call it the cheapest Ferrari, so it makes sense.
there even was a Ferrari body kit
They call it the baby Ferrari because it was designed and built at maranello, using a lot of Ferrari parts (peak inside an F355 and you'll instantly start recognising some of the shared parts) oh and being the fastest fwd production car for 10 years helps. It is a Ferrari but because it was commissioned by fiat, it wears a fiat badge...
Should put Lancia on it... It promised to be a Lancia... it is written in many parts on the car.
Fiat chose it to call it as it is...
The front looks amazing.
JDM VR4 the back however... Well...
Andrew Samy if they put the barchetta rear end on it would have lookt super good
Andrew Samy lmao, that's why I specifically said the front.
Nathan_04_YT Probably, I comment a lot on Alex's videos
SDD525 64 people disagree with you.
Fiat Coupe Le is the best car I have ever owned out of about 30. I will never sell it.
Cool video! But now I miss my Coupe 😐
Had two 20v and one 20v Turbo... The Turbo was a beast... Did intake, Downpipe, complete exhaust and software... Killed an e46 m3 like it was nothing... With a Fiat... And the sound was absolutely incredible....
@Kristen555 the coupé It was very fast ... In a drag race, you can beat many cars...
Cornering and braking need caution ( LOL)
Killed an M3
🤣🤣🤣
@Kristen555 well... with all those mods it must have been atleast 300+whp, an e46 has 343 hp and rwd with known traction issues
Not too far fetched really
@@oppoh739 It never ceases to amaze me how so many people are oblivious to the fact that straight line speed is mostly just a matter of power to weight ratio.
Put enough power behind a brick wall and it can out-accelerate a race car.
@@oppoh739 no it wouldn't have that much lol
Thaats my first car!!! I still got it and I never intend to sell it ;)
Gapi iTV Lucky!
Gapi iTV Do you live in Britain?
Zlupper. No.. I am from Slovenia
don't you *dare* selling it
Gapi iTV darn, so I probably wont be able to insire it
Great video. I had the 'tamest' version of that car, the 16v non turbo. It was the best car I've ever had and would still have it now if I hadn't spun it into a field off an untreated icy road. I cried when it had to go!
Just arrived from the podcast. Great video; love your work. Bravo!
Fantastic review! You've an excellent presentation style and manner for this sort of thing.
Reason 1. It goes vrooooooooom stu stu stu
Reason 2. ...
Reason 3. Profit
SDD525 stu stu stu
SDD525 and yet, niggas like boonk gang is making gun sounds as an adult and people listen to his music.. so what's your point?
+SDD525 the fuck? xD vroooom stu stu vrooooooom stustustu screeech vrooooom crck dsh KABOOOW guess what i'm older than 8.
+Sack Of Potatoes 9gagger spotted?
Why are you people against a bag of potato?,its not even human
SDD525 woosh
Fantastic cars no matter what you think about fiat. The 20v fiat engine is superb in either turbo or n/a form. The coupe is lovely but not forgetting the Bravo HGT and Marea with the n/a engine and the later Stilo abarth with the larger out 2.4 20v.
Sound so bloody good. Lucky enough to have owned a number of cars with this engine including a coupe.
What a waste that would be.
SDD525 a manual Tranny in a electric car? How?
You've literally commented all over this video about how much you hate this car. Typical yank, see a Fiat and it doesn't matter how good it is, it is always shit. You've probably never even heard of this car before this video, just that it is a shitty Fiat. In its day this was a working class hero and modified versions can shock show-off super car owners. 5 pot engines are underrated. Baby V10s. You really think a bog standard electric motor would do better? A Tesla of course, but in full beans mode they will beat most super cars. The looks of this car are timeless, at least outside of Germany and the US who big up their own cars. That Acura might have a big lump up front...but that doesn't mean it can race.
Chris Dawson I totally agree with you man , haters gonna hate
SDD525 it's a 20 year old design though. Of course a Tesla is years ahead... What a stupid fucking comparison.
Compare this to similar priced cars of the same time (mid 90s) and the Coupe is the best in class. It's a much nicer place to be and drive than say, a VW corrado or a Mazda MX6. And it will embarass just about anything on the road.
I think this car might be my first pick in choosing a front wheel drive sports car. I absolutely/intensively/undeniably love this car...😍
Another great video in this series that has been fantastically edited! I was quite fond of this the looks of this car when I was younger, and I wouldn't mind experiencing one.
It's a shame that there's so many cars like this that just get ignored or rated poorly because of claims of unreliability when there's very little wrong with them or just because of brand snobs. Brand snobs ruin the car scene.
Any 20 year old sports car with highly stressed engine is going to be bad news. He even said in the video you can't even open them in winter?
111 111 I did also mention brand snobs, not just the reliability side of things
Seth Jones Spot on mate. Two people above that aren't true drivers and have no idea what their talking about. When talking cars from this era or earlier it's about how they drive, how they talk through the steering wheel, how they make you smile for no reason. Reliability isn't a concern, especially when it's more hearsay by many who've never even owned or driven the car their slating. They delude themselves that they are, when they never will be, true car enthusiasts.
Are you serious? in what a boring ugly german one?
Seth Jones also many Italians were hit by the "brand snob" epidemy. In the 90s Fiat (which owned also Lancia and Alfa Romeo) stopped to innovate and invest on those brands.the results were that we were germanised (in our motorways you see only Audi, BMW, Mercedes); Lancia - the glorious brand still keeping the record of wins in the rallyies- is dead; Alfa is restarting with beautiful models but it's a brand snob victims.
5 cylinders give such a great sound, I had an Alfa 156 2.4 5 cyl diesel and that sounded fantastic
Diesels sound like sand paper
Hey guys, love these sorts of videos. Would be great to put some clips in showcasing the sound these older sports cars make. I think the most interesting thing about these sorts of cars (other than performance and quirks) is the soundtrack.
I love this new setup on these videos....you get the personal opinion from the host and technical info from the experts. Love it!
Thanks so much for the video i just sold my Megane RS 225 and i'm going to see one tommorrow :) !!
I had a 99T 20v turbo in steel grey. A great drive, beautiful to look at, cracking full leather interior and 100% reliable. A specialist fitted the timing belts when necessary and changed the oil regularly. It is difficult to say whether the bonnet or the steering wheel was the most attractive thing.
My Fiat Punto has the exact same steering wheel and I love it
I have to say this, man, your vidoes are great in terms of production and editing.. Good job mate..
i see a lot of views in this series, great ideea man, good work !
Fiat engines are very reliable. Don't really understand why everyone says they're bad
Giuseppe Maggiò Bravo 1.9 8v JTD. Most reliable car I have owned. From 230.000 km - 270.000 km.
Giuseppe Maggiò because this peoples are too stupid to understand that fiats are good and cool cars
JTD engines are legendary. Both 1.9 and 2.4 are very reliable and they also have a lot of power compared to most of the diesels made for normal cars. Fiat made so many awesome cars during the years : the 1000 TC, the 131 Rally, the Ritmo Abarth and the Punto GT. All small and cheap cars that could keep it up with much more expensive cars
lol
It's not engines...
It's everything around it that fails
What a great video. I worked in sales for a Fiat dealership in the late 90’s early 00’s and would regularly have use of coupes and also the bravo hgt with the 5cyl and would often terrify bmw 3 series and golf gti owners in them. God they were good days.
A really excellent & thorough review - well researched advice passed on from the experts
Many thanks !
Brilliant Video, from start to finish. Great work!
I ran one one of these for a couple of years and had well over 20,000 miles of trouble free motoring and a smile on my face every time I drove it. I think the most expensive bit was the cambelt change but thats true in most cars!
I have a Punto gt turbo, love it to death! Always tried to talk my friends into buying a coupe turbo just because I can't afford one and think they are amazing!
I’ve always loved these. The noise is a reason why I have a Volvo V50 T5 - same fabulous and distinctive sound. Coupes in general are A threatened breed, which is TERRIBLE!! Fab car, great video
Thank you so very much for making this!
Such great video quality, its amezing how much and how fast this channel evoluated, this is better then the new top gear in my opinion....way better
Inocentiu Budau Yes, nothing against Top Gear but it's not as cool as Earlier 😑
Bought one of these in 2008 for £900 and delivered pizzas in it for 4 years. Gave it so much abuse and I think she loved it as much as I did. Reached 175,000 miles on a shoestring budget... wish I still had one but prices have rocketed. Love your channel... even more now you done the fiat some justice even though it is faster than you claim... 0-62 mph is 6.2 seconds but it's more about how it keeps pulling like a train all the way to 150 with 4 adults on board. (Private test track obvs)
You'd be amazed with the pull/torque figures with a proper exhaust/intercooler and remap
Ahhh, takes me back to the days of getting my license in Gran Turismo 2 👍
Imagine a new Abarth Coupé... Mr Marchionneeeee wake up
Oh the irony, reading this comment in 2020
@@dimitrissk5649 He won't be waking up :(
@@mr.squishy5024 if he wake up we have a big problem. #stayinhome #coronavirus
Been really looking forward to watching this for some reason
Absolutely love the series! Alfa Romeo 916 GTV6 maybe in the near future?
Loved the video
Nicely presented. Been driving these for 17 years now. Love them to bits. Such an underrated car.
I swear I never clicked this fast on a video before
Lier, your fastest click on a video was in 01/23/18 when you clicked on "10 sexually awkward moments in red dead redemption" followed by "Dear white people"
DT B everyone says that
+Dirty Bong Water 😂🤣🤦🏽♂️
Hope it was worth it for you!
Same!
I used to own a Fiat Coupe, its 20V non turbo tho, never had any problems with it
All the crap people talk about Fiat is bull and lies.
People say Fiats rust... I just came back from Austria, I was working there. All cars with rust i've seen were all german. Not 1 Fiat with rust. I know many people that used to talk so bad about Fiat then life took a spin and they ended up buying one and today they are super happy with the car and brand. For me, the best brand in the world.
ALSO JAPANESE CARS RUSTY !!!
For me as well the best brand ,thanks to them, Alfa , Maserati, Ferrari are still alive
For me Fiat is best in the world
well done man! bravo! personally me ,i have two ''FIAT''s,a thirty years old Ducato, and twentyone years old ''Marea'' 5cilinders diesel.Those are iron machines.I;m very, very happy with them!!!
Dude u can WATCH them rust.
Alfas are the same.
Loved your show today. You seem to like the same car as I do. Pete
Exactly the same happened to me,was 16years old I think when I first saw a fiat coupe, could not believe how beautiful it looked and how beautiful they look now even against all the modern cars, so a few years back got myself one, amazing machines
Finally they get the appreciation they deserve. Awesome little shits! No one ever doubted the capabilities of the engines (be it 16V or 20V) but it is remarkable how well Chris Bangle's design aged. They are looking better and better with every year!
Great video guys !
Never been in a Fiat coupe but I always knew that they’ve be awesome, however a friend used to have an Fiat Uno turbo i.e in grey with all red trim & it was sick it felt rapid but I was 19! Also been in a Fiat Strada Turbo, oh my goodness that felt sooo good at the time. If you could do a video with either of these then it would be the best thing ever!!!
A long time ago, back when we were still in Greece, we used to have a neighbor on the house opposite to ours, and he had a yellow Fiat Coupe, and also a yellow Punto GT at some point I think...My dad's car at the time was a red, 5-door Fiat Punto 75 ELX (not sure whether it was a 1995 or a 1996 model)... Damn it, that Fiat Coupe looked good... The only car that impressed me that much after that was when, quite a few years after, one of my female classmates had moved in that house, and he had an E39 BMW M5... He offered to carpool me to school along with his daughter in the mornings, but that's a whole other story... Oh, the sounds and looks of those 2 cars were really something else...
Bought the lampredi 16v turbo in 1996, abarth bodykit, hybrid turbo and colombo bariani cams..spent more time in the shop due to hard to get parts. Missing it ..
Man, the editing on this video was so beautiful
hnng
thank you @ editors
My dad dailys this bad boy and only showed electrical problems now, at 200k miles. Honestly this car is such a joy to ride, especially on twisty roads.
For a car produced in the 90's it's dated really well and still looks fantastic. Very few cars can look this good in standard form. Yeah they were quirky and had rust and reliability issues but if you have one, and it's got this far, then it;s not really a problem anymore. The driving position, the noise from that exquisite engine and the general pleasure these cars give you just cannot be replicated by any other car in the same bracket. Proper coupes like this just don't exist anymore.
looks fantastic??????
Mitsubishi fto fox, looks better. Better engine, more dynamic, built better. Plenty of cars are like this fiat, turn your head to the Japanese, who basically invented this bracket
I owned a turbo plus back on 2000 and held on to it with love and pride till 2007. I never regret selling a car like my coupe. I love the whole review and especially the starting story which i use to do all the time and enjoy watching cars disappear from my back view mirror
The video quality is just as supreme as the editing. Those colours on the hills, the angles on the car... wow. Next car you need to be driving and reviewing is a Fiat Punto mk I or II. ;)
I loved this video, please make more in this fashion 🔥
many years ago i had a smurf blue 20VT Plus. Such a lovely car. Had never an issue with it!
Thank god there’s so many people who dismiss out of hand any car they have heard is unreliable from some bloke down the pub, leaves all the interesting stuff to us proper petrolheads. This and the 916 GTV are true 90s Italian icons.
If it’s not some yank banging on about some V8 crap with the handling characteristics and suspension technology of a Stagecoach it’s some JDM fanboy banging on about some plastic shit with the styling of a house brick and an interior less interesting than a 10hr health and safety training course on a rainy Tuesday in November.🙄🙄
YOU ARE SO RIGHT! Let those fanboys have their JDM-200SX-SUPRA-PRELUDE (WTF?)-blahblah stuff (which might be nice but not my cup of tea) and we get the interesting AND awesome cars.
Reliable? Old Italian cars? are you serious? My mom use to own an Alfa Romeo Alfetta Quadrofoglio Oro when i was younger. The only thing that worked on that car was the blaupunkt stereo. I think my dad spent more time under it than any other car we use to own... Old italian cars are as reliable as British Leyland's cars, they're juste more beutifull and drives better (when they work) that's the only reason why people keep buying them...
I love the 916 gtv... the coupe 20v turbo.... and my own delta integrale EVO. ... all cars have problems from time to time. .... but I was driving a gtv for a couple of hours this week on the open road.....awesome.... beautiful..... fast..... what's not to like....
Robert Waffel jdm is more than 240sx's and supras, have you heard of a nissan laurel or a toyota mark II? Jdm cars are exclusive to the japanese market, how are they not interesting?
Yellow 20v coupe is my most memorable and reliable car I have ever owned. 5 years of trouble free ownership I replaced it with a brand new Toyota Celica due to all the positive media reviews - what a mistake that was - got rid of that piece of junk after 10 months. Learned to never trust the media
Loved this. I've owned my Scotts Green Fiat Coupe 2L 20V Turbo now for 12 years. I still open the front door to look at it on the drive. To drive one is to know what sheer magnificence is. I also drive a 2017 Ford Mustang GT too. The Fiat Coupe was indeed the fasted production car Fiat ever made at the time and it feels great to drive to this day. Mostly maintenance Costs over the years. It is pretty reliable. If you drive a performance car, expect to pay for its upkeep. Then you will be smiling my friends. Thanks again
Great video. Always love the look of the coupe. Smashing car!
here in argentina i saw a few of this coupe 20v, is absolute rare car here and for my opinion beautiful, same with the sound of that 5 cylinder, i love that sound.
Good to know.
It would be much easier to import to Brazil...
Had a lot of fast cars but my fiat coupe is my favourite, unique looking in a world of faceless overly complicated new cars. Can't think what I'd buy to replace it with.
Brilliant review, well done guys. More promotion to push up then value of these fantastic cars
👌There's nothing like this beautiful roaring, torquey and rev-happy stylish coupe, full of speed and rebellious finesse! Born in the era of brick shaped German coupes, and the one that wasn't looking like a vault of understeer on wheels, well then.. You could still mistake its rear for its front (audi tt)
1978ranki it was probably great. But admit it... it broke down 100 times, didn’t it.
@@rrex I've had two 20v turbos and still have one .
They have both been very reliable and great fun.
I wouldn't know how to replace it.
I drove my mates Audi the other day with similar spec and it was souless and frankly boring.
@Rex Rico no it didn't, great reply though, well done 👏
Great video 👍
I remember accidently buying one on gran turismo 5 and not being disappointed
Just going to say that the camera and production quality of Carthrottle videos nowadays is top notch. It's fresh, clean, exiting and fun, such a solid product.
I used to own one not a plus though but they are great little cars, kind of make me question the torque steer in so many modern fwd cars. Parking is terrible though those doors have to open so wide to get through
back when I was like 7 there was a guy on my block who owned one, I always thought it was sick and I still love it today, maybe I can get one some day
God it sounds good. Got driven to school in a 20v turbo once, best experience on the road ever. Really hope these will still be around in the future
I simply love that Fiat, stunning body styling by Chris Bangle at Centro Stile Fiat, and amazing exhaust sound!
Been waiting for this video
The stereo intake-exhaust recording is fantastic.
Bye!
Beautiful review, and beautiful specimen! .. 👍🏻
I would like to add and talk about a detail that has not been mentioned in the video review at all, that is the traction, as it is considered (the 20V Turbo) one of the best front traction in the world, due to some technical details not just, that is :
THE FRAME: "Type 2", this is the evolution of that of the Lancia Delta, more rigid and robust, as well as the body.
THE TRANSMISSION: A sophisticated (especially for the 90's era) electronically controlled transmission through turbocharging management (Garrett TB28) invented by Fiat / Bosch, on the first two "EBL" (Electtronic Boost Limiter) gears, of this what few are aware of, even if it has been mentioned several times by various Italian magazines such as: Auto del 1997, Quattroruote 1999, and also by international magazines, as well as a mechanical self-locking device called (ViscoDrive).
I think it is right to say a few words about the sophisticated electronic control of the transmission on the traction, and on its operation.
There are 2 sensors / switches inside the gearbox, which are connected to a first satellite control unit, this is connected to the mother control unit (Bosch Motronic 1.1.2) which in turn is connected to a second satellite control unit which is connected to an electronic valve called "Pierburg" which always in turn controls the WestGate valve of the Turbo, opening and closing it according to the wheel spin by means of the ABS sensors.
The beauty of this sophisticated electronic system lies in the fact that it does not INTERRUPT the wheel spin, like a common "ETC" (Electtronic Traction Control), where it cuts the current to the engine, making you feel the classic serration and kickback, but REDUCES the wheel spin. of the wheels, precisely decreasing the supercharging pressure, so as to maintain a fluidity and pleasure of driving while driving, without losing performance.
The system automatically excludes itself once the third gear has been engaged, included onwards, to reactivate automatically once returned to 2nd and 1st gear respectively.
The control system, if necessary, can be excluded with special "Computer Examiner", and not by the Driver in the passenger compartment.
The beauty of this sophisticated system lies in the fact that if you want to elaborate the Coupé, even in an extreme way, to increase power and torque, and therefore performance in general, with more extreme trim, etc .... With this electronic system (with ECU reprogramming) you can choose the boost pressure according to the gear engaged so as to always have a smooth and pleasant drive, without excessive skidding and loss of control of the car!
ES: If original, the pressure expressed by the Turbo is: 1st gear 0.8Bar, 2nd gear 1.0Bar, from 3rd gear included 1.2Bar (therefore the maximum boost pressure).
By carrying out the processing you can do:
E.g. 1st gear 1.0Bar, 2nd gear 1.2, Bar, 3rd gear included onwards 1.5 / 1.8 / 2.2, and beyond, so as to never have the classic explosion of power with relative wheel spin in the first 2 gears, which takes away the pleasure of driving.
A truly brilliant and unique system in the 90s sports!
We remind you that the "normal" Fiat Coupé 20V Turbo and special editions (Limited Edition, [numbered and certified] Plus Edition, and MY99 'Edition) is the only 90' front-wheel drive sports car to have a controlled transmission and mixed management, (Electronics + Mechanics), the latter cohesive in unison, in the name of mimesis, although these are not physically connected to each other in a single piece, like a classic "VDC."
In practice, the mechanical self-locking (ViscoDrive) acts as a "TC" (Torque transfer) and the "EBL" (Electtronic Boost Limiter) electronics as a skid control.
SORRY IF IT'S LITTLE !!!!!
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P.s: Some models (more than a few) of original "Limited Edition", new, and of a single owner, rolled on the test bench, have all registered powers of over 230hp, in spite of the 220 declared by Fiat.
This indisputably explains the greater performance in terms of maximum speed and acceleration scored by the various magazines, in spite of the "normal" 5-speed versions, that is: (252.23 Km / h, LE, against 248Km / h Normal .), and acceleration, (6.1 / 3 Sec.LE, against 6.5 Sec.Normal) all electronically "limited" in the first 2 steps, as stated above.
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I was working and living in Europe in my very early twenties and remember this car coming out. I loved it from the moment I planted my eyes. It was awesome and by today's standards, it is much better looking than most modern cars. It is so funny when the comment was made about the "25 year rule" here in the States....you are totally correct. Such a trifling piece of bureaucratic piece of BS. I am 100% sure that if this car were to be driven here in the states, it would turn heads everywhere and cause conversation on the streets. My only concern is that there is not a "John" the Brit Mechanic Specialist on these cars here in the USA. What even is more scary is that any, and I mean any, sort of mechanical issue, will completely melt the engine down and will end up as trash in a junkyard. Agreed, Fiat re-entered the US not too long ago, but I am pretty sure they would never touch one of these because it would be way beyond their capacity. Let me ask you, if a part is needed for this car, will Fiat entertain part orders and if so, will it take 6 months to get it? I might be willing to entertain, but I already know I can't count on Fiat in the US to even handle a car such as this, my only source for parts would be overseas (if that is still being done) and spending $20,000 + USD on a car like this is troublesome to even think of. P.S. - I wish the Brits drove on the left side, it would help alleviate a bit of the headache:) Other cars of that same time frame that were pure beauty was the Fiat Barchetta, Alfa Romeo Spyder, and the Alfa Romeo GTV Coupe. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Great post and thank you.
I wish my dad never sold his Electric blue 20v turbo I need to get one
Awesome edit guys!
Owned a 20v Turbo for a year back in 2013, nicely remapped up to around 260bhp. Used every day on my commute, never dumped me on the side of the road.
That said, to keep it happy and roadworthy for a daily driver, it relieved me of around £4000 that year. Oil cooler and pipes, new exhaust and cat, various bits of welding underneath, new metal repairs to rusted arches, injectors, coil packs, oil changes every 6k, various sensors, discs and pads all round, shocks and springs all round...
Still, miss it everyday - nothing like the 5 pot warble!
How hard would it be to get one of these to the US. I'm kinda in love. It's like a Supra met a Miata, but Italian.
Jfunkey impossible 25 year rule so
Why dont you look in a Fiat selling country like Mexico, South or Central America
@@albertoascari2542 Bc they never were sold there.
I could organize one for export in Europe, pm me via henrygreenthumb@googlemail.com
Loved owning my 20VT in Portofino blue, 48k miles, and in beautiful condition for just £4000. Beautiful sound, great character and life threateningly quick. Superb for crossing countries on Motorways and A roads. Did Plymouth to Newcastle once in just a few hours and got out of the car as fresh as i got in. Nobody harrasses you because 99% of the time there is just nobody able to stay in your rear view mirror even when you're not driving on the limit. Had no issues at all in 4 years of ownership. Build quality is very good and built at Pininfarina where they also do Ferraris. My only minor criticisms are that the revised skirts and details on the Plus version are not as good as the clean lines of the original, the front seats are not bolstered enough for hard cornering, the 16" rims should be changed to 17" with quality rubber and the suspension (like all the fast fiats I have owned) needs to be uprated and a strut brace added to remove any body roll. Lampredi's 5 pot version of the Lancia Integrale Engine is utterly gorgeous. A masterpiece !
The 20V turbo plus had a factory installed Sparco strut brace in the engine bay.
Sweet sound 🤘😋 music for carmaniac
I tried one yesterday, a 20v turbo EL (limited edition), thé steering was quit ferm and precise but there was a vibration on bumpy roads, what do you think guys ?
Also the owner swapped coilovers for adjustable Koni.
Thanks !
I love how manufacturers used to paint the top of the engines red on there higher performance hot hatches...i.e Fiat, Vauxhall with the redtop, I think ford even used to do it😍
This was only on the Plus/LE Version...the standard 20v turbo had bare aluminium, which is kinda boring
Wonderful. Car is just like it was described on this video 😍
I don't seem to find any 20V Turbos here in Brazil, so I believe only the 2.0 16V came down here.
Seeing this video only today sparked a light on having one of those again, which was a childhood's dream as well.
I love that you finally tested out a Fiat :D and this coupe, looks and sounds amazing ! You should have a go in an Abarth Punto next, especially the Evo Esseesse model with the 180bhp. Would be great to see a road test of it. The Punto doesn't get the credit that it deserves, so much like this Coupe in actual fact.
I've been wanting one of these since Gran Turismo 2.
I loved my 20v Turbo, it was fast as a bastard and felt like a luxury GT to be inside and drive.
Best video ever !!! Car throttle knows my g !!
Push button start!! What year is it?