How To Get Thor's Armor EARLY! Tips That Will Save Your Life - Assassin's Creed Valhalla
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- In This Assassin's Creed Valhalla Video I show you how to get the Thor's Armor Set. In assassin's Creed Valhalla this is would be and end game armor set, but with a few tricks you can easily get all but one piece very early in the game. For the last piece you will need to get farther in the game, I show what is required, and where to get the last piece, but to avoid spoilers I did not include some scenes.
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Assassin's Creed Valhalla is a video game developed by Ubisoft Montreal and published by Ubisoft. It is the twelfth major installment and the twenty-second release in the Assassin's Creed series, and a successor to 2018's Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Set in the 9th century, the player controls Eivor, a Viking raider and Assassin during the Viking invasion of Britain. The game is scheduled for release in late 2020 for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Google Stadia, and is to be Ubisoft's launch title for the next-generation consoles, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X.
In Valhalla, the player takes on the role of Eivor, a Viking raider who leads their fellow Vikings from Norway in raids and battles against King Aelfred and the four Anglo-Saxon medieval kingdoms of England - Wessex, Northumbria, East Anglia, and Mercia - near the end of the 9th century as part of the Viking invasion of Britain. Additionally, the game will continue to tie into the modern-day events related Abstergo Industries' researcher Layla Hassan, who was featured in both Origins and Odyssey, and to the Templars and Assassins that have tied the series together.
Players will have the choice of playing Eivor as either male or female and are further able to select their hair, warpaint, clothing and armor. Combat has been changed to allow dual wielding of almost any weapon. The "Eagle Eye" mechanics are also expected to return in the form of a raven that will be Eivor's animal companion in the game. The player can use the raven to scout the nearby areas as previous avian companions had done in Origins and Odyssey. The game will rely less on a traditional leveling system and instead focus more on the selection of skills through skill trees selected by the player as Eivor advances through the game. Enemies will be rated based on the collection of skills. The skills trees will be similar to those found in The Witcher, Fallout 4 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Player choices through conversation or gameplay options will have impacts on the characters and their political alliances with other non-player characters.
A central feature of the game is the settlement that the player, as Eivor, will help build and lead during the game. Ismail described its importance as "a lot of what you're doing in the game world is, at the end of the day, going to feed into the settlement so that it can grow, it can flourish." The player will be able to direct construction of certain types of buildings which in turn provide benefits for gameplay. To build these structures, the player will need to lead the vikings on raids to collect resources. Naval combat will return, though more as a means of faster medium for travel for performing such raids, and for escaping after land combat, rather than in engagement with other naval vessels.
Valhalla is a single player game, but will include online components for the purpose of encouraging players to share their progress and creativity.
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"how to get this early" "oh btw you need to finish the game to get all this armour"
Yeah that's only one piece
Legit only one piece but ok
lmao right and the one sister is power 330 lmfao I'm 48 hours in and my powers like 165
@@Recklessiscrazy lmao not true.. wouldn't say power level 330 is early. I'm 48 hours in and only power 165
@@HighPotatoo they aren't even that hard to beat if you just learn their patterns
Anyone else just put random armor pieces together to make a cool looking piece of glory
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No.
Amen xD
Yes but each sets have specific bonuses for having all 5 equipped so it's much bettee
I like the galloglack armor with the mentors cape. Looks like a proper viking set
If there's one thing I learned from Witcher 3, its to loot everything
Speaking about witcher 3, I feel like ubi copied the flammable gas, you need fire to light it
I could see that. Witcher 3 is awesome, so of course Ubisoft would copy from it.
@@kindamint facts Witcher 3 invented flammable gas in video games
@@kindamint you're right bro, I forgot they invented gas that's flammable. Not like that's naturally occurring or anything
@@well_as_an_expert_id_say thank you bro I was like wtf are they talking about
If you guys are having trouble with last witch, use eivors rush and bash ability to throw her outside of the arena area, once she’s outside she won’t attack you, however you can only kill her by staying inside the arena shooting arrows
Could I also use harpoon impalement or would that not work
Sorry wouldn’t have clue, I haven’t played for while
@@bobbyshmurda9686 As long as she doesn’t go into the arena yes.
I’m glad too see people that actually play this game and realize it takes strategy, I’m on second play through
It doesn’t work she teleports in
Just realised that these are the three sisters Goneril, Reagan and Cordelia from William Shakespeare King Lear
I’ve never liked the idea of having to wait until the end of the game to get the best items. Surely the point of these items should be to help you complete the game, it kind of defeats the object if you have to wait until after the main campaign before you can use them!
I was about to say the same but thank you for saying it for me, there's meant to be plenty and I'm guessing they thought we'd leave the dlc till last, we've got 2 so far with another 2 planned definitely and more maybe after that due to odyssey long standing success, I feel the infinity game is to early, we've been due a unity retry where we have our own characters and do team jobs, but we only have Layla thus far, unless Desmonds dad goes back in, hopefully the merging of the 2 main companies at Ubisoft will guarantee us a great future for the franchise, I'm not sure they'll deliver though 😕
I am 104 but used Excalibur to fight her
Agree
U can actually get all pieces after suthexe
Progression exists.
Mechazoic "I hate this, why do I have to work to get stronger I should just start strong and dominante everything! There's no point to this!"
what really pisses me off about the newer ac games is that they lock the best fucking weapons and armor until the game is already over.
completely stupid.
It gives u a sense of pride & accomplishment whats the problem 😏 🤣 but yea fucking Ubisoft on that bullshit its either get it at the end of the game or become a 9D Chess master to outplay, set up & cheese some op enemies at a low level which could be tedious & time consuming.
@@LordNexusTheFir u literally have to pretty much beat the game to get mjolnir tho as u have to defeat the entire order of the ancients to get the cloak and a few of the order are locked behind the main story
@@zer0sgaming618 a few? I think you mean literally all of them
@@USNSBEAST I killed a ancient one when I was exploring the world randomly
@@LordNexusTheFir whats the point of accomplishment when you cant use it to play LOL. I wished they siphon some cool stuff within the story itself. So you progressively get cool stuff as you play
I’m like level 30 and I accidentally stumbled upon cordelia, boy did I revert save fast lol
How do I check my level
@@Logan-xi5lt go to skills
@@Logan-xi5lt your power is equivalent to your level
@@scottnoble7306 the amount of skill points?
@@Logan-xi5lt look at your skill tree. At the bottom it has your power. You can have 200 skill points, but if you don't allocate them in the skill tree they aren't doing anything for you.
"Get Thor armor early!"
"Oh, complete the game to get it... Early..."
do you listen he said put it on adventure
@@darkmoon-su8lc in order to complete the game, you gotta kill every cultist within the ancient of the order = gotta finish the game
I just need the cloak though. I'm probably not half way though the story..
This guy is a joke
It's only one piece you get at the end
Once i got to England i went and synchronized the entire map, then started getting armors and weapons. Loving this game so far and i’m pretty excited to fight the sisters now.
I teleported to every single sync zone and it took me hours, I also TPd to every weapon/armor location since I see where ALL the gear is, and side content too.
Problem is... that’s taken 30 hours alone without touching the story.
Like, you’re okay with this game being so ridiculously large and repetitive?
Once you’ve beat the tutorial area, you’ve literally done it all... now do it again for 200 plus hours for completion.
Idk bout that chief 🤷🏻♂️
@@AnjewTate I mean if it’s a chore then i would say don’t do it. After seeing the entire map and exactly how much shit there is to do, i can tell that it would be a long and arduous task to do/collect everything in it, and i probably won’t do that. But i’m gonna complete the main story and pursue the things about the game that interest me and when i’m done wt the game, i’m done.
Just started two days ago now I've got Excalibur a full tlset of armor and a lvl 3 settlement
I just spent about three hours at power 97 fighting the last sister. Dual wielding spears I had the best outcome, so I stuck with those for about an 1.5 hours and finally dropped her. Such a fun set of fights those three sisters were. I died a few times on the first sister, none on the second, and lost count with the last sister. I did have the full mentor set, dual wielding spears for the final sister. She was I want to say, 360 power and I was 97, very fun and long fight. ✌️
Edit: I also watched zero videos about the fight and only looked up where to find their locations after coming across their families estate.
I use 2 heavy axes
Finished her on the second hardest difficulty in 15 mins😂
@@Squiddubbly depend what power you at
Wasn’t a problem for me because I had thengs armour and Excalibur by the time I hit power 70
Took me 10 minutes
For anyone struggling with Cordelia I found that using the Britain Shield worked really well because at a low power level you are relying a lot on parrying and the shield heals you for a bit.
third one is the easiest
I just finished it at level 82 and I used the Battle Sparth, Longbow and The Plank and Buckler
I just did it thx you man
Just dodge it’s easier if you have brush of death it’s an easy 3 extra hits
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH LEGEND
I literally haven’t got the first main quest done once you get your camp set up I just keep getting the armours you show in the videos lol
Facts haha
Same here and I have already played 8+hrs
There is a lot to do! I still have barely played the story too XD
@@shashankbetawar3817 rookie numbers
With the map fully upgraded and Tags videos I haven’t even left the first zone. I’m doing a 100% play through. Videos like this will help me find those hidden goodies
Aw snap I know what my next task is going to be in this game! Tag you're on point with these videos! Thanks for the work you put into them.
best to focus on main story first since you got them but no budget to upgrade them... it mean nothing.. you can still pick up armor on your way... since you only need 3 part to get the bonus and full set of 5 if you want full...
Just obliterated all 3 in about 15 minutes. It took me more time to find them than the actual fights using gungnir and the spear of leonidas. Thanks for the location walkthroughs bro!
for me I used full thor armor (- the cloak) without weapons just the powerful Abilities and adrenaline consuming attacks and a bit of bow using. (Mostly drop kicking the hell out of em) and the rush and bash Ability saved me including the axe throwing, harpoon, and more drop kicking and upper hooks.
If anyone is having trouble with the last sister use a hunting bow and use the focus of nornir ability and get as many hunting arrows and keep using focus of nornir it slows down time and gives you infinite arrows for as long as your bow is drawn and if you have stamina I got her 2nd try using this
There is no fights at their natural difficulty really main difference is how much damage they deal and how many times they use their combos. But damage is being dealt to you is what makes it repetitive and biggest challenge . The only reason you should drop the difficulty is if you want the set early in the game to enjoy it. This is a best guide out there so far.
“Early” power level only needs to be 150+ and need 40+ hours in the game.
And it is not whole - u won’t be getting the second set buff, which makes this armor useless till the end game...
Yes, title is completely missleading clickbait
This armor is pretty useless anyway.
You don’t need 40 hours to hit 150
Dude... this game is ridiculously long in the worst of ways. Im level 397 and I’d say 50 hours is still very early game.
This is NOT a good thing. Considering the majority of the game is a rinse/repeat grind-fest.
47h 239 level
Goneril was the hardest of the 3 fights for me. The others were rather simple using speed to my advantage but Goneril's speed made that fight the most difficult in my eyes because my speed was nullified
Are u blown
For me it was regan she was annoying as hell lol
I don’t know their names but the one that uses fire was the toughest, basically the second in this video. She made me use 3 ratios while the 1st and the 3rd were killed within 20 seconds or so.
I recently just re picked this game back up after it's launch. I'm having a blast and cannot wait to smite my foes with thors hammer!! Thanks for the videos and more I'll be giving em all a look
I think i fought one of these to the north in England, tough S.O.B.
A good thing to use on the boss is a flail with the slowing down time doging thing the flail takes alot of health of her
Apologize for previous comment. After watching this in its entirety. I think you did an excellent job. Very informative. Thank you
Video was very helpful thank you I never really do the side stuff until this game cause I always liked to do the main then side but this changed it all for me thanks again
“Early” y’e just finish the game 40-60hrs no big deal
lol my 4 hours in an still havent left norway yet.
I fought all the daughters and I'm not even half through the Order yet. Kinda mean from Ubisoft. Putting all the armor pieces in an relativ early area of the map and than not giving you the last one until the end...
@@pearpicker3600 they make you pledge to territories that have absolutely no fken relevance to the story and it’s always the same thing you gotta do, so annoying
I’m stuck in Asgard guiding animals to there fetishes
@@Randomhandle10 i dont want to leave asgard lol
I stumbled upon one of the witches, I think it went well, we parted as friends, and I vowed never to return after she showed the error of my ways of walking in her area. I haven't had an trouncing like that since Medusa.
I found the final sister in the East and I'm horrified
Pretty cool man, thanks! I like how you made this video. I'm going to have to check out more.
Awesome video man.. thank yoi
Awesome! Do u in any video talk about best skills to pick? Some good tips in the start of this video... Ty :)
Not yet, been focusing on finding all the gear, will do videos soon on gear/skill combos very soon
apparently "early" means that you have to literally beat the game first
I haven't even done the Ragnar sons quest yet but have done the grantbridgshire and the all father arc. I'm no where near beating the game just really loving it and ransacking!
Stay mad u just suck
haha right?
Nah not really. I'm level 112 and was able to beat all three of them, just need the slow down time dodge skill, and the harpoon ability. Might take you a few tries, but you gotta get good at dodging, one hit killed me from the 340 boss lady. Managed to dodge all of her moves, and defeat her after awhile. Patience will get you a long way.
It's doable. I used the carolingian pike and dodged like a mf. Remember to use your abilities and pick up the shrooms during the fight
Thank you for explaining it and not spoiling
Thx for the tips!!
Love all your vids, started playing 2 days ago and now at power level nearly 100... you got yourself a new subs man 😊
Thegn's Amor set is the best looking one, imo. The helm looks like a crown
Appreciate the help mate
This video is amazingly made! Thank you very much for it 😊
Unless u want mjolnir, don’t bother killing all order members for Thor’s armour, for the cloak u can just use the mythic raven clan cloak. They re basically identical
Hmm
It doesn't add the huge wtun bonus 🙄
just got my thor cape how you liking your little raven cloak haha
@@Realmz555 i don't think it looks very "stunning" on him 😆
@@nickspencer9018 hahaha good one
I did all 3 of these at power 51 definitely those skills made it so much easier
Seriously on ps4 or ps5 or xbox?
This helped a lot thanks
thank you very helpful
i tackled goneril at power level 27 and regan at 52, it may have taken meticulous hours learning their fighting styles and how to counter, but i did get like 2 cool pieces of armor from it
note that they can 2 hit kill you at those power levels
Exploring I use the draugr hammer in main hand and I use a dagger in off hand. There is a move pressing LB or holding it you do a super speed attack. I hammer stun and spam LB with dagger it’s OP
thank you for posting this, the method helped so much
I’ve been trying different weapon combos and this one works to dam well to try anything else 🤣 hard to move past this set up. Lol 😂
SirKillerFTW also works with a axe in off hand as well.
Ha,a man of culture
Dual axe works like a charm same with dual spear any same weapon combo does pretty well I’ve been using dual axes since I left Norway varins axe and other axe which increase attack with each hit( i forgot the name) r op as fuck
I remember watching your monster Hunter stories 2 tips I just got assassins creed since I’m now bored of the monster Hunter games hear I am watching you again love your videos bro👌
Thanks man this help me alot
This clown: "Get thors armor early"
Also this clown: "you'll have to do a ton in the game first, defeat the entire order of the ancients"
I mean that’s only the last item all the others don’t take that long and it’s just the cloak.
@@sirawesomethethird8707 except you can't complete the set. So it's kinda pointless.
@@definitelynotalec I suppose
@@sirawesomethethird8707 im almost done with the story but for other people that havent its dumb
He said armor, not cloak😂
The expcalibur is good for this also the daggers if you can stun them!
thank you im at power lvl 192 rn. and i was about to wait intill i finished the game to get the set but you helped alot.
Good job I loved it 😊
Using the harpoon level 2 ability is very good for the 3 daughters of lerion I defeated them when I was just a level 80 skill level
Lol I love how at the end of the video he says “oh yeah and you’ll also need to kill all members of the order.” Video title is pretty misleading in that case
Thanks this helped a lot, all I need now for the cape it the father and a couple zealots
Bro you sound like the daily dose if internet guy love your vids
games out for only a week and the dude is having bossfights at level 350
Its actually not hard if you do alot of world events and get some collectibles you would get more levels i killed the 3 sisters at level 130 , still didnt kill all the order of the ancients members tho
@@cosmic8242 I think I killed the sisters at level 140ish and the only one I had some trouble with was the fire one. The poison and lighting and easy
I killed the sisters at 95 all on very hard 🤷♂️
@@rsxghosts now that's pretty gamer
@@rsxghosts i tip my hat to you sir
I just took all of them on at like level 130 and it felt great to accomplish. Thx for the awesome tips man u r great. BTW I did it in normal difficulty. I would not have survived in harder difficulties lol 😂
i beat them all at power level 40 somehow
I was able to get the 4 pieces very early(pwr 53) because of a bug. The enemies couldn't attack me, so i just spammed the button xD. Thank u Bugisoft
very happy to say i beat all three before hitting 100. kinda bummed out tho that i still have to clear the assassination missions before getting mjolnir
Hey Tag, you know when you are comparing armor or weapons you can hit the compare button and it will match them up side by side for your videos, just thought you would like to know that.
I found that altar thingy to put the knives into, but haven't come across any of those sisters. Lol.
Same here. But now i know i need those sisters aswell. 😋
Just get on the map. Put the cursor over the blue dots. Listen for a ominous humming noise. Boom thats it
East Anglia are 2 of these sisters
What are you talking about btw how do you get such good defense
I allready know what they are talking bout just remembered
thank you for the tip it actually work for me . My Eivor power is just 70 and I was able to beat those 3 sisters 😎😎😎
Thanks for the vid dude!
Me , power 50, getting one shot by power 220 enemies.. "WHY IS THIS GAME BROKEN!?!?"
Lmao
Lol I managed to do it at power 30
Am i the only one who really hates going into caves/tunnels? ik its just a game but they are scaring the living shit out of me.
Love going in the caves
At night time I get scared over there but am fine at day time
Well be glad it's not real life then. :D
Still works as of February 8th thank you so much i got all the armor for thor besides the cape before they get to patch it
Thanks bro🤙🏾
the thor, hidden ones, and thegn are my favorite sets.
I don't know why they thought adding a level 250 boss into a level 50 area was a good idea
Why not? There is a level 340 boss around 200s lol. World bosses exist and when you find one, it's a rush.
@@CDuff86 I know but if my lvl 200 ass gets crushed by the first witch then it's not gonna be very nice for a level 40-50 player who just started that area
@@boi4947 dodge like a madman, and parry the yellow strikes. It's a huge benefit to have backstab and the rollover the rune strike skills for an instant backstab
I know right I was like this is going to be easy and I died to her like 4 times until I found out her move set to beat her which was pretty easy after I got her attacks down
@@CDuff86 yeah I've beaten her already, them witches don't have anything on that damn drunk bear in Shropshire , damn thing had a unreactable one shotting red attack
Wow my power level is around 290 and I completely missed these areas lol after work I’m going straight to them thanks for sharing without spoilers! After that im off to Winchester.
thank you 🙏 this is fairly early for how good this armor is btw
Title: how to get... quickly?!
Content: finish nearly the whole game...
Nice tip thanks bro xD
Your can’t get Thor’s armor early, you have to be a high level to beat the sisters and you won’t get the final piece until you have beaten 45 cult members and if you can do all that you don’t need Thor’s Armor, except for cosmetic purposes.
you are amazing bro ❤
Bro you are amazing
I love how you say you get Thor's Hammer later in the game when it's more like at the end
Which is later in the game...
@@lucashyde7555 it's not later it's literally the end in fact it's even farther than that, it's after the end of the main struggles and the entire story's main conflict. It's an epilouge reward. Later implies just not at the beginning or half way but also not when the game is done and you have nothing left of meaning to do. Unless you literally ignored everything but the story and have hundreds of wealth and mysteries left it serves no purpose.
@@guitarman0365 later means after the point in time you are at currently
@@lucashyde7555 don't be so literal because then that could mean 1 minute into the tutorial.
@@guitarman0365 or it could be 50 hours into the game and you can't say that i'm literal when you wrote a paragraph on how i was wrong and what later means
I can't put this game down, thanks for the tips!
yeah 45 hrs in... it a 3 weekend game..
As someone who has to self isolate this is a great chance to get this finished 😊
Man when will they release NG+? Anyone knows? I wanna use my mjolnir to kill the order!
@@VIZOR_AxK They won't be! They tweeted out 24hr ago that there will be more DLC on the way but no NG+ ATM.
@@Theemptythroneistaken That sucks! Probably then after 3,4 months as Odyssey had the ng+ after 4 months.
Hi, ty for video, can u show us whats best eune and other items and skills with this set?
I like how Thegn's Armor is my second which I have equip now Thor's Set be my first can't wait until I retrieve them all
Early, EXCEPT for that last piece 💀
I was power 150 and defeated all three of them, the hardest one was the witch that controled fire. The one with lightning i defeated very easily despite the fact that the recommended power was 340.
If you’re doing this atm I suggest waiting till about power level 100 and use dual spears for the last fight
Thanks mate 😊
I killed one witch Goneril while I was on power lvl 52, 5-6 tries, learned her moves and killed her, Dark Souls style, the question is not if you can kill it, it's: how long it will takes.
yeah you def can do it, just gotta be very careful
Me with full set now and only power level 100. You just have to dark souls it like you said lmao
I failed a couple of times now it won't give me a chance to interact and try again. I tried saving and loading. Have you heard of this happening?
I have been trying to kill that last sister for a while now I want the armor so bad I love the bear armors
Careful I tried for about an hour I think the game locked me out from trying anymore I cant interact with body to start the battle
@@Jokerlovestoplay21 is she really that hard I’m at 198 power but I don’t like gettin my ass handed to me which is why I don’t bother killing higher lvl bosses
@@isleepunderthebed4514 yea u have to have 340 power lol
@@isleepunderthebed4514 I beat the last one at about 190, when your in the second phase just cheese it with your bow while keeping a medium distance so she can’t hit you.
Nice work. Cordelia shredded me brutally.
this guy provides the most good advices w channel
Just don't be like my brother & make the difficulty on pro first time playing. My brother did that with god of war & still hasn't beaten it. Although, him watching me beat the game like it was nothing on normal (Valkyries & all) might have something to do with it as well. Geirdriful was the most difficult one though, she took my at least 4-5 tries. The second time through playing, took me like 20+ tries, not sure what I kept doing wrong.
May just be a glitch, but if you use Harpoon Impalement, it does huge damage
It does
Great stuff.
Your are the f****ing man bro you made this very simple and easy to follow. Found the ideas easy
Brigandine armor
Yngling Seax dagger for +15 increased damage after a dodge
Viper bow +1 crit per hit up to 10 times
Hundtooth +10 crit chance at 50% HP
All melee resist gems on the right side and all HP gems on left side
Crit damage gems in all weapons
I get consecutive hits of above 200 sometimes 300 on enemies on hardmode. The L1 combo with a dagger is a charge and 3 stabs before swiping twice and dodging back
Couple this with brush with death and ooft
Is that his armor
Gonna try this
I defeated the first two easily but the last one.......I’ll come back to her later lol
Same, I just got up to her... time for me to finish the story first ahaha
Rage of helheim that bitch. It’s a lot easier than it sounds once you have rage upgrade
The 2nd one gave me more problem then the 360 one
It doesn’t matter if you beat them, you still have to beat all the Zealots and cult members which won’t be revealed until your almost done with the story. Just play the game, there is no early.
@@studivan but you do get three pieces of Thor armor which is why I wanted to be them. I know there is no early. I’m enjoying the game and not trying to rush through. I totally understand though. There is a lot of CZcams videos that say “get this weapon/armor early today!” Come to find out you can’t get it until nearly beating the game. For example , Odin’s spear.
I like you man im your new subscriber
nice upload
I just fought of a funny combo. thors armour, mjolnir and the blacksmiths hammer
Poor guy is always having to inhale things 😆
Quick tip for regan if you use the harpoon on her and pup her towards you will take a quarter of her health every time, I did regan first try in under two minutes
Thank you bro
What the hell is this guy’s definition of EARLY ! Lmao power lvl 340! Take out the order ? Yeah dude real early thanks bro.
The order is simple I'm power level 125 and it's simple
Yeah, games lame tho. stop playing after all the bugs . Plus I was playing on hard mode so not so easy. Non the less it’s all obsolete.
Lmao I thought u called the first crazy gonorrhea 🤣🤣
I mostly used the rage of helheim ability for some free damage and it gives you Al your stamina back even though you youse it all in the ability
8:51 strat for mainly low level player but works for all levels the third one is fast very fast but they have to appear in front of you so as long as you run and try to shoot there back well perfect parrying and when they do lightning storms kneeing them you should be able to kill them that’s the most plain way you can do it