Five Uncomfortable Facts About the Middle East

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  • čas přidán 17. 02. 2016
  • A Lecture by Ambassador Gary Grappo, former U.S. Ambassador to Oman, Charge d’Affaires and Deputy Chief of Mission in Saudi Arabia, Minister Counselor for Political Affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, Director of Regional Affairs for the State Department’s Near East Bureau in Washington, Envoy and Head of Mission for The Quartet in Jerusalem, now a Distinguished Fellow of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Denver’s Josef Korbel School of International Studies. This event was held at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies on February 9, 2016.

Komentáře • 134

  • @hiremathification
    @hiremathification Před 5 lety +16

    The title of this talk should million uncomfortable facts about America.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Před 8 měsíci

    It's hot, there's lots of sand, water is not plentiful ... can't think about the other two, though. The food is great, the sights are awesome and the people are very sympathetic.

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 Před 8 měsíci

      I just thought of the other two (from an American point of view): they hate them and they really hate them.

  • @takiyaazrin7562
    @takiyaazrin7562 Před 7 lety +28

    While you are talking Sir, Saudi is exporting Wahhabism in Malaysia.

    • @Alienfromotherplanet
      @Alienfromotherplanet Před 7 lety +7

      He is giving the facts and he cannot stop the spread of Wahabism in Malaysia, The citizens of that nation have to rise up and fight against it.

    • @faza553
      @faza553 Před 7 lety +1

      Takiya Azrin
      Wahhabism is already vectorized globally - ~35 years of seeding with petro$. The afflicted lack the capacity to even take the risk of thinking for themselves. The tiny Island of Trinidad:
      www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/isis-trinidad/509930/?

    • @annoloki
      @annoloki Před 7 lety +2

      Wahhabism is a response to colonialism, born originally under the Ottoman empire, finding new meaning under British/American empires. Judaism went through a similar thing, becoming the concretely monotheistic religion we see today during IIRC the time spent captured/enslaved in Babylon... the argument goes: your people are a controlled people, controlled by the greed and evil of people who live far away, because your people were not pure enough for god to defend. Your people worship different gods, or do not follow scripture, and god will not stand by you if you do not stand by him"
      IOW, Wahhabism is a symptom of underlying problems, it's not the cause. People don't believe things just because they are told what those things are... people especially don't change their beliefs to a system that goes against their world view more than any other set of beliefs made available to them. People who feel a level of control over their own lives, more so than they feel their lives are controlled by others, are not people who feel Wahhabism is something that speaks to them. The answer to Wahhabism is empowerment, and refusal to empower those on the bottom rungs of any society makes those people perfect recruits.
      The flipside to the Wahhabism of the oppressed, of course, is the Wahhabism of oppressors... you get to blame your victims for their own oppression, drawing attention to every little things they get "wrong". For the Saud rulers, seeing themselves as pure proves Wahhabism correct, as they control that large chunk of Arabia rather than an external foreign power which had been the case previously. Blatantly, they're actually kept in power by Western(tm) powers, mostly the US, but if you believe everything that happens is according to god's will, then you have to reconcile that belief with these facts... this is why empires love religions of divine justice so much: you must deserve power if you have it, and you must deserve not to have power if you don't.

    • @Oners82
      @Oners82 Před 6 lety +2

      Takiya Azrin
      While you are typing on CZcams Sir, Saudi is exporting Wahhabism in Malaysia. What do you want him to do about it? He is now working as an academic, not an anti-terrorism operative!

    • @Oners82
      @Oners82 Před 6 lety +4

      annoloki
      "Wahhabism is a response to colonialism"
      It was founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab in response to what he considered to be idolatry by other Muslims in Arabia. It had absolutely nothing to do with colonialism.
      "People don't believe things just because they are told what those things are..."
      Yes they do, it is called indoctrination and radicalisation.
      "people especially don't change their beliefs to a system that goes against their world view more than any other set of beliefs made available to them."
      Again, yes they do, it happens all the time especially when people are emotionally distressed.
      "refusal to empower those on the bottom rungs of any society makes those people perfect recruits."
      The vast majority of the Saudi population are Wahhabi and there is precisely zero correlation between wealth/status and Wahhabism so you are again just empirically wrong. In fact most of the Wahhabi suicide terrorists are from middle class backgrounds and are well educated.
      "The answer to Wahhabism is empowerment... The flipside to the Wahhabism of the oppressed, of course, is the Wahhabism of oppressors"
      So the answer to Wahhabism is to empower people but empowered people by your own admission are Wahhabi oppressors anyway?!
      Great arguments there...

  • @yisrael8658
    @yisrael8658 Před 5 lety +3

    صدق او لا تصدق
    العرب أسمى الأقوام والشعوب الأخرى

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Před 8 měsíci

    10:00 .5% GDP growth per year for 25 years equals 13.28% growth.

  • @786swe
    @786swe Před 4 lety +10

    All these deaths could have been avoided if the West dud nit meddle in the ME.

  • @konaboyz1690
    @konaboyz1690 Před rokem +1

    A non Muslim Will always view the Eastern part of this world differently With a bias Christian or Jewish based religion overtown.
    KB Atheist
    Hawaii

  • @ryanchiang9587
    @ryanchiang9587 Před 5 lety +2

    mathematics

  • @malloonkai
    @malloonkai Před 6 lety +15

    Don't you love it when an American official talks about another country that has: "one of the world's worst human rights records."

    • @lostcauselancer333
      @lostcauselancer333 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah. I like it when they have perspective instead of pretending like ragging on their own country makes them seem enlightened.

    • @jamiestewart4087
      @jamiestewart4087 Před rokem +1

      Makes perfect sense to this American. We are the world leader in human rights and actually invented the concept.

    • @Hardy_H_H
      @Hardy_H_H Před rokem

      Jamie you ARE American, please don't change. Stay your ignorant uneducated self and pound your chest like your ape ancestors.
      Look up the Cyrus cylinder and learn who invented the concept of human rights many many MANY centuries before an Italian explorer set foot on your continent and another one named it 😂
      Is this why education is expensive and out of reach in America yet everyone has access to the internet where they can spew their BS?

    • @jamiestewart4087
      @jamiestewart4087 Před rokem

      @@Hardy_H_H BLOW ME

    • @revol148
      @revol148 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jamiestewart4087 "world leader in human rights".......oh dear where to begin or shall I just leave you safe & happy in your innocence?

  • @lookoi9363
    @lookoi9363 Před 5 lety +11

    If not for oil they would be happily living in the 7th century when perfection was reached and all need for improvement, progress and new learning became redundant

    • @Oners82
      @Oners82 Před 5 lety +11

      tt oi
      Try reading a history book, their greatest period of progress, learning and improvement occurred around the 12th century, which is after the seventh century and before they started exporting oil.
      Thanks for playing, better luck next time ;)

    • @786swe
      @786swe Před 4 lety +2

      tt oi
      Ignorance at its best. Research on Abbasid and Omayyaf dynasty and know how dumb you are.

    • @markstamper1
      @markstamper1 Před 3 lety +6

      This is why history is important. If the west didn’t have the knowledge that developed after the 7th century from the Middle East, such as the advancement in mathematics, they wouldn’t have the ability to make rockets that have destroyed and destabilized the region. Please read history before commenting and displaying your ignorance.

    • @ishrendon6435
      @ishrendon6435 Před 2 lety

      Lol wow study history this why you have the intelligence of a frog lol btw middle east created many things including many things we teach in modern education . Dont ne biased or racist. Learn and youll see the Middle east is far superior. The US snd british invaded and meddled in the Middle east for a lomg time. You seem to convinced forget it

    • @bijosn
      @bijosn Před rokem

      @@markstamper1 this had already been disproved, any scientific discovery qiuld eventually have been made. There is conclusive research om this.

  • @dadsonworldwide3238
    @dadsonworldwide3238 Před 5 lety +5

    No question critisim of the middle east is dangerous for acdemics historians archeolgist , dna ancestory and especially literary textial study's .
    I've been a big history fan looking at dna comparisons to modern populations in the region and I feel like in the arab conquest it really wiped out elthic people's .the relationships in dna are really controdictory .
    Modern Egyptians 3% relationships to it's ancestors obviously is a invading people's replaced the population .etc I see this in most country's .why can't we get truth and the full story's by academia? They tip toe on these subjects.

    • @4chukwuebuka
      @4chukwuebuka Před 5 lety +1

      Ancient egypt was black

    • @786swe
      @786swe Před 4 lety +1

      Dadson
      Then why did it taje 300 years for Egypt to becone Muslim majority?

    • @zazugee
      @zazugee Před 2 lety

      that's nonsense

    • @dadsonworldwide3238
      @dadsonworldwide3238 Před 2 lety

      That's my point any DNA after 600 AD is a mess and makes no sense

    • @dadsonworldwide3238
      @dadsonworldwide3238 Před 2 lety

      @@zazugee its to many populations that have been replaced or mixed to the point they dont share much % of the ancestry.

  • @robertcorona5394
    @robertcorona5394 Před 5 lety +1

    This is very right,Muslims open eyes and ears please!!!

  • @siva0809
    @siva0809 Před rokem

    Aaaaaaa

  • @Katayoonfattahi
    @Katayoonfattahi Před 6 lety +17

    This talk is extremely biased by presenting Iran’s poor human rights and a huge threat to the world and not mentioning a single word toward Saudi’s terrible inhuman human rights as well as their vast terrorist acts all over the world, especially in 9/11.....
    What about supporting Iraq in 8 years of war toward Iran, why didn’t you mention about selling chemical weapons to Saddam Hossein to use it on Iran without any accusations or disregard even by UN and on the other hand after the invasion of Iraq, you accused Sadam for his chemical attack toward Iran..... Sir these are examples of hypocrisy

    • @ahmedeeqnur4047
      @ahmedeeqnur4047 Před 5 lety

      I couldn't agree with you more
      They support Alshaab terrorist in Somalia & Syria Iraq Libyia & Pakistan Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia UAE & Isreal are dangerous to world peace Zaniost Jewish Zaniost Arabs,

    • @lissaleggs4136
      @lissaleggs4136 Před 5 lety

      Accused him of using it against Kurds not Iran

    • @robertcorona5394
      @robertcorona5394 Před 5 lety

      Lady it's Muslims fault plain and simple they alone have to figure it out

    • @Rustsamurai1
      @Rustsamurai1 Před 5 lety +1

      he's compromised.

  • @kayem3824
    @kayem3824 Před rokem +1

    West Asia, not Middle East.

  • @Alsamman463
    @Alsamman463 Před 5 lety +2

    AlQaida established by US in Afghanistan to work against Russia.
    Sadam Hussain pushed by US to fight Iran after Khumaini’s revolution.
    Terrorist groups wasn’t exist inside Iraq before US invasion.
    No mass distraction weapons found in Iraq.
    Terrorist groups was almost not exist inside Syria before the Revolution in 2011 that encouraged & supported by US and other US allies, same thing for Libya as well.
    Many terrorist released from US prisons and became leaders for extremists militias!!!! “How could such dangerous persons travel and be this much active without being monitored after they have been discharged from US prisons”
    Are you sure guys that US really wants to help ME???
    Anyway....
    I admit that we (Arab) are having too many social, cultural, political and economical problems and failures, but we are not that bad we are just normal people like you but living under different conditions ... I hope one day all humanity works together and for each other ... no western no eastern no black no white no muslims jews or any
    We all are humans.

    • @bijosn
      @bijosn Před rokem

      Interesting. I didn't want to believe this when Muslims would tell me this but now that I know more I can agree that the USA has been responsible for much of the issues in the Middle East. They are doing the same in Ukraine and Russia now. The USA are world bullies.

    • @bijosn
      @bijosn Před rokem +1

      What about the role of Islam in all of this?

  • @defsfeelblessed1068
    @defsfeelblessed1068 Před 5 lety +1

    all i can say : czcams.com/video/_JrWYc4pavE/video.html

  • @alfredomontealegre7132
    @alfredomontealegre7132 Před 5 lety +4

    As the Middle Ages progressed, Arabic civilization began to run out of steam. After the twelfth century, Europe had more significant scientific scholars than the Arabic world, as Harvard historian George Sarton noted in his Introduction to the History of Science (1927-48). After the fourteenth century, the Arab world saw very few innovations in fields that it had previously dominated, such as optics and medicine; henceforth, its innovations were for the most part not in the realm of metaphysics or science but were more narrowly practical inventions like vaccines. “The Renaissance, the Reformation, even the scientific revolution and the Enlightenment, passed unnoticed in the Muslim world,” Bernard Lewis remarks in Islam and the West (1993). The decline in science began at the end of the XII century and continues today. When was the last time a Muslim won the Nobel prize in the hard sciences?

    • @4chukwuebuka
      @4chukwuebuka Před 5 lety +1

      Ancient egypt was black africans

    • @ishrendon6435
      @ishrendon6435 Před 2 lety

      Who cares?? The europeans created that bogus prize crap its irrelevant

    • @electicblue
      @electicblue Před 2 lety

      Regarding the Nobel prize it’s a racist institution favouring white scientist. It’s not a model of measurement.

    • @yaserbatal6474
      @yaserbatal6474 Před 2 lety

      Your comment completely ignores the fact that Arab world was under continuous attack by enemies , the Catholic Church forces ( Crusaders) and Mogul after the 10th century

    • @zazugee
      @zazugee Před 2 lety +4

      nobel prize isn't something you take as standard for scientific innovation
      there has been many criticism against it