The TRUE Identity of The Endless: Their Flood Immunity & The Next Halo Campaign

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • In the 3 years since Infinite released, we've only received a small amount of new information about the Endless, and so, I think we need to talk about them: Their Flood immunity, their true identity AND how this will influence their role in the next Halo Campaign...
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:38 - A Brief Updated History of The Endless
    5:03 - A Minor Issue With The Endless (And How To Fix It)
    7:14 - The Major Issue with the Endless
    13:26 - How To Fix The Endless In The Coolest Way Possible
    16:08 - The True Identity of The Endless
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  • @HiddenXperia
    @HiddenXperia  Před měsícem +624

    I spent way too long turning that Chieftain's Gravity Hammer into a clock

  • @punishedvenomsnake716
    @punishedvenomsnake716 Před měsícem +760

    The Endless: "We're immune to Halo and the Flood"
    Precursors rewrite laws of reality with their neural physics magic to make them susceptible: *Surprise, mothafucka*

  • @Nbarri051
    @Nbarri051 Před měsícem +372

    What you’re describing as the retroactive plot for the endless is exactly how I feel about the banished. The covenant were the ultimate threat, pushed humanity to extinction in a 20+ year war.
    But the idea of “they never came close to stopping the banished”, when it’s ran by 1 guy.. that’s how that story sat with me.
    Love the content, keep it up!

    • @Borgron
      @Borgron Před měsícem +85

      That’s a good point. Personally I feel they should’ve been a group that relied on hidden bases and guerrilla tactics. Then, after the fall of the Covenant, they could have gained prominence as the UNSC rebuilt.

    • @slumphub
      @slumphub Před měsícem +13

      If you played halo war 2 it makes the banished way more badass

    • @Nbarri051
      @Nbarri051 Před měsícem +58

      @@slumphub I agree. Ive played every game and enjoy the good with the bad. They are definitely bad ass, with their style of up armored vehicles and more mercenary style alliances and much more.
      That being said, to still say that the covenant posed No threat to them? When the covenant, within a few minute to, almost fired the halo rings from the ark whilst in the middle of a battle between all UNSC forces, the Sangheli AND the flood?
      It was just lazy writing in my opinion for them to say the banished were THAT good from the start.

    • @slumphub
      @slumphub Před měsícem +4

      @Nbarri051 where does it say that? As far I remember, the lore of atriox coming to power is pretty good

    • @JadeRunner
      @JadeRunner Před měsícem +31

      Yeah, I agree with you completely. I actually really like the Banished as a faction, I love how they're made up of the same species that made up the Covenant but have a completely different philosophy and aesthetic. I love the movie The Road Warrior and the Banished remind me of Mad Max villains. If the Covenant were the Knights Templar then the Banished are the Hell's Angels. 😁
      But they're so oversold as overly formidable opponents in Halo Wars 2. The idea that a single individual could go rogue from an organisation as large as the Covenant and within a few years amass his own army powerful enough to pose a threat to that organisation is pretty silly - even sillier is the idea that this could happen and humanity remain completely ignorant of it.
      The Banished are a great faction but their backstory was dumb. They should have just had the Banished become a thorn in the Covenant's side and remain that way until the Covenant fell. There's no need to do this whole "they were always bigger and badder than the Covenant" thing.
      I actually like the idea of facing a threat that is "smaller" than the original enemy faction in terms of size and numbers, but more ruthless and brutal. It doesn't always have to be "bigger."

  • @rampagegamingg8434
    @rampagegamingg8434 Před měsícem +360

    The amount of times she quotes the gravemind in the game and in the rubicon protocol leads me to believe the endless are nothing else other than precursor in origin

    • @revolverocelot1380
      @revolverocelot1380 Před měsícem +68

      Precursors were said to each be eldritch gods that would sometimes reincarnate themselves as seemingly regular species in the galaxy. The primordial made itself into the flood. Some precursors became plantlike lifeforms after the flood war. Calling it now, the endless are a form of precursors too.

    • @awesomeguy9513
      @awesomeguy9513 Před měsícem +28

      @@revolverocelot1380maybe the endless could be a splinter faction of the precursors that didn’t believe in becoming space dust and turned themselves into the endless

    • @rushpatriot2866
      @rushpatriot2866 Před měsícem +2

      Read the new books bro

    • @scottgoode2609
      @scottgoode2609 Před měsícem

      I have a theory that the Endless are a group of Precursors who, instead of turning into the powdered form that later became the Flood, would digitize themselves and become a digital species perhaps existing isolated outside of the Domain. Through the passage of time they end up creating several biological forms for themselves to inhabit and dissipate their precursor "consciousness" throughout the species with the intention of developing to the point they could overthrow the Forerunners. It's not a great or compelling theory, but it's the only thing that came to mind when playing Infinite with the information we were given in that game.

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee Před měsícem +20

      There was that one audio log where the Harbinger spoke to a Marine who in a different log is said to have become mute after their conversation which sounds like the logic plague.

  • @DMaynardNelson
    @DMaynardNelson Před měsícem +58

    The Endless being a continuation or enclave of the Precursors that survived was how it read to me in Infinite. Possibly it was a group of Precursors that survived, and when discovered by the Forerunners, were locked away/exiled as the Forerunners could not bear to exterminate them as they thought they had before. Unless it's a complete shoehorn on the part of 343, that's really the only narrative that works with the overall canon of everything else that I can think of.

    • @Killzoneguy117
      @Killzoneguy117 Před měsícem +6

      And the only way Cortana's line about things "worse than the Flood" makes any sense

    • @Bird-wz7nx
      @Bird-wz7nx Před měsícem

      I'd like to think that the Precursors had somehow wound up "Making" the Endless.
      Like, they're a lesser, "Mortal" form of Precursor. (If we think of the Precursor's having transcended temporal bounds as a sort of immortality)
      If the Flood is "Only" the undead zombie of the Precursors, then the Endless as a living version of them, with the potential to be reborn into full Precursors, then I could indeed see how Cortana could see them as being even more threatening than the Flood.

  • @noahhumphrey2293
    @noahhumphrey2293 Před měsícem +173

    I was literally just thinking about this yesterday and here you are with an endless video wtf

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před měsícem +105

      I telepathically read your mind and made this entire video in under 24hrs

    • @loudman12
      @loudman12 Před měsícem +12

      @@HiddenXperiaI have a theory if the endless if you humor me. It slight sound wild but hear me out.
      If the circle rings in the halo which symbolise a reoccurring loop. Perhaps atriox is the start of the loop starting again. The endless is not specifically a race or pre cursors.
      It’s a reference to an endless loop. Atriox setting in motion what’s happened many times before, loops as the previous ones had the flood u its galaxies.
      However something happened. In this universe the flood has not overwhelmed it. Maybe that’s the true test of humanity. To turn the tide and push them back in multiple universes.
      This species is clearly immune or are they? I think the flood choose not too. Like with humanity in the forerunner war. When they reseeded to trick the forerunners.

    • @noahhumphrey2293
      @noahhumphrey2293 Před měsícem +2

      @@HiddenXperia thats why you’re the goat

    • @alexw2794
      @alexw2794 Před měsícem +7

      The Endless played with time to seemingly bring you this perfectly timed video about them.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +7

      @@alexw2794 makes sense. They seem to be psychic.

  • @JulianLares
    @JulianLares Před měsícem +21

    Thank God somebody explained the endless because I wasn't even sure if the harbinger was even a part of the endless species, because they don't explain ANYTHING throughout the campaign

  • @haissamali
    @haissamali Před měsícem +35

    I know its off topic but The way you described the problems with the retroactive addition of the endless is almost an exactly perfect description of the problem with the timeless child in doctor who.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Před měsícem +2

      With the Doctor, it is dealing with a very old problem. It is saying what happens when the Doctor stops regenerating.
      The one thing we know, is the Daleks have declared their intentions are to kill anyone that has either met him, or been a Companion that is not dead yet, and then destroy everyone in a massive purge.
      The Timeless Child was a botched attempt to both avoid that story, and show the character keeps going.

  • @lostguardian4637
    @lostguardian4637 Před měsícem +22

    Who’s to say they’re not the Meddlers? Somebody crashed at Halo before we got there, it’s in one of the anniversary cutscenes, theres also that one Flood Map, that somebody changed the teleporters to not connect to the outside? The idea of a new species has always been hinted before

  • @jamesharrington4518
    @jamesharrington4518 Před měsícem +39

    It's also worth noting that in the 2022 halo encyclopedia, it is said that the endless have knowledge of the precurser concept of living time.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +18

      Not just knowledge, the Halo Encyc says they are “attuned” to it. This is the biggest piece of evidence that they are Reclaimers, as Living Time is described as “the Founding concept behind the Mantle of Responsibility” not only that, but the reason why the Forerunners gave themselves that name was because they knew they were the literal Forerunners of the next Species to weild Living Time…guess which species that is.

  • @runemasterhariwulfaz5267
    @runemasterhariwulfaz5267 Před měsícem +39

    I wonder if the ship that crashed into the halo and contained by 343 guilty spark was an endless ship. If I remember correctly, it happened pretty early after the halos had fired. perhaps they were looking for their lost comrades

  • @JadeRunner
    @JadeRunner Před měsícem +13

    In Halo: Silentium it describes a Precursor artefact on the Didact's homeworld, Nomdagro. The Didact and IsoDadact have their back and forth there. The description of it is exactly like the ring statues on Zeta Halo in Halo Infinite. So far I seem to be the only one who's noticed this. 🤷‍♂️

  • @FlavioSantos-uw1mr
    @FlavioSantos-uw1mr Před měsícem +30

    This scene of Cortana talking about the Endless after reading Epitaph hits different, poor didact can't catch a break

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Před měsícem +148

    Considering what the Precursors are, I'd love to see the Endless being like "We are immune to the Flood." Then an infected Endless just shows up as a giant "Lol you thought" moment because the Precursors made themselves able to infect them. They are builders of life down to the cells of life. They could do it.

    • @revolverocelot1380
      @revolverocelot1380 Před měsícem +20

      The endless are likely another form of a precursor. Calling it if 343i doesn't just drop them from the story.

    • @awesomeguy9513
      @awesomeguy9513 Před měsícem +25

      @@revolverocelot1380heck the endless story will probably be finished in 2 books between halo infinite and 7 then we have some new threat pop up

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +11

      I don’t want the Endless to just become a arbitrary power-up for the Flood. The Flood are cool but they will always do what we expect. The Endless have actual emotions, and I personally find a thinking and feeling antagonist much more interesting to explore.

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Před měsícem +18

      ​@@jakespacepiratee3740 The Gravemind does get angry occasionally, so the Flood does have feelings. And they definitely think. Obviously. But I get what you mean.

    • @Connor8609
      @Connor8609 Před měsícem +11

      I believe the Endless are the Precurosor's selected champion for inhereting the mantle this time and humanity are the forerunners'. The immuinity the Endless have to the Halo Rings is some kind of time slipspace ability to inherently not be affected by the Halo blast some kind of existing between dimensions similar to Cryptums, Shield Worlds. However , the Endless do not know the ultimate intent of the Precursors though, they just believe they're the chosen inheritors of this universe.
      On a story level, that way you don't directly dive into a precursor enemy faction and can still introduce the concepts of a bigger bad out there while giving humanity a challenge where they're not directly fighting the gods of the universe. This opens the door for client species , which I believe are referenced in the Encyclopedia (2022) and allows other creatures following them under their control of the Mantle.

  • @John.S92
    @John.S92 Před měsícem +16

    The Encyclopedia where it said that "a few Xalanyn managed to escape from their species' imprisonment" also contradicts itself (since this would imply that the species is just another >Tier-2 species, as it also states that the xalanyn where "attuned" to living time itself, which would mean they where a tier-0 species.

    • @MobileLegendsvids
      @MobileLegendsvids Před měsícem

      PROBABLY deception + preptime caused this effect or its a WILD plot hole but if u give something. Time and opportunity I belive it ca make a box something se smarter or tougher CANT escape easily or without sacrifice

  • @danteaghoulfromspace2996
    @danteaghoulfromspace2996 Před měsícem +29

    The name Endless also implies a precursor origin, since theyre the only species who are immortal in their own way, or, put differently, the only species with an endless existence

  • @outtoxicated9104
    @outtoxicated9104 Před měsícem +56

    Was anyone else disappointed by the fact that Halo 5's cliffhanger was completely disregarded by Halo Infinite and that most of its major plot points were resolved off screen? I was hoping for a more cohesive story

    • @crackedupmonk
      @crackedupmonk Před měsícem +17

      Nah it was garbage anyway

    • @Anonymous-fy7zw
      @Anonymous-fy7zw Před měsícem +8

      Ye it’s one of my biggest gripes with the game. They show us all these great character moments that could have happened on screen and made great levels. UNSC HQ getting blown up would have been a brilliant level. Leonodinas stations destruction could have given Locke actual character development. But instead we’re sat in the same boring environments all game. Grass Forerunner or Banished. Nothing else

    • @erika002
      @erika002 Před měsícem +4

      While I didn't read Halo Epitaph, I have heard that it strongly ties off all the loose ends between Halo 4 and Halo 5. As for the Endless, eh, new fad, no idea. They may have to pull someone to pump out a novel to tie off Halo 5 and Infinite and release it 10 years from now or something.
      (Lmao my comment didn't manifest wtf CZcams. Edit: now it does, but I deleted it now)

    • @WailfulSeeker82
      @WailfulSeeker82 Před měsícem +6

      That's kind of the 343 strategy.
      Make a story, people have complaints, 343 has most plotholes cliffhangers and unfinished story covered in books, make a new game either barely referencing to the previous game and books or don't reference them at all, repeat cycle.
      I.E Didact books after halo 4, Created war books after halo 5

    • @dg7347
      @dg7347 Před měsícem +3

      yeah infinite skipping over the guardians and cortanas defeat was really lame. it would've been much better and more epic if there was an actual fight against her.

  • @darkspark5854
    @darkspark5854 Před měsícem +20

    I think that the endless worship the precursors like the covenant worshiped the forerunners. They’re a space cult using the powers that their “gods” left behind. But the difference between the covenant and the endless is that the endless have actually been in contact to the precursors.
    The precursors made the endless to be immortal for a very specific reason. They are those who care for the the sacred cycle of creation and consumption. The precursors create, the flood devour, and the endless are meant to keep the cycle going. They care for the precursors. They were granted the gift of “life grafting” which allows them to re-write life which allowed them to turn the flood back into the precursors whenever they devoured all life in the universe. However the gift of life grafting was given with one simple rule. Do not use this power to create original life out of nothing.
    But when they broke that rule, and the precursors left them behind, right before the forerunners betrayed the precursors. Sot he endless were completely left out of the loop.

    • @Shapes_Quality_Control
      @Shapes_Quality_Control Před měsícem +1

      This sounds a lot like Star Trek Online’s treatment for the Preservers and Iconians.

  • @alexw2794
    @alexw2794 Před měsícem +6

    I really hope you're right and that 343 takes the Endless in the reborn Precursors direction. When infinite first came out, I remember thinking that them being some form of Precursors was the ONLY way the Endless made sense in the greater halo story.

  • @Blade4952
    @Blade4952 Před měsícem +6

    I always assumed they were the precursors. There is so much that implies it in thr game, especially the audio logs.

  • @eruiluvatar8331
    @eruiluvatar8331 Před měsícem +75

    Man, 343 Industries just have to hire you or at least name you as the official Catalog of the Halo lore. You have a way to tell and record stories that could match the ones of the Forerunner rate. If one of its members appears someday in one of Halo Media, 343 should hire to voice it.

    • @IsuiGtz
      @IsuiGtz Před měsícem +3

      Like Installation00 doesn't exist.
      Sigh.

    • @crazy13alex
      @crazy13alex Před měsícem +2

      ​@IsuiGtz I'm subscribed to both, and I find Hiddenxperia a little more entertaining in his delivery.

    • @Connor8609
      @Connor8609 Před měsícem

      Me too, but a lot less competent.​@@crazy13alex

  • @UnkownContact
    @UnkownContact Před měsícem +5

    The head shape of The Harbinger is also reminiscent of the Primordial in the few pictures we have. The 2 flaps on the side of her mouth/head also look similar to the ones on the Gravemind.

  • @jamB2007
    @jamB2007 Před měsícem +9

    I actually really like the endless being tied to the meddlers and your old video on that topic has always been a HUGE favorite of mine! I actually think 343 did a good job of creating a mystery of a faction that seems beyond something we know. However it does mess with that amazing feeling that the meddlers gave back then. A completely unexpected mystery that made you be like woah wtf! However I think the endless (if done right) can prove to be something very special. But we need to keep a mystery to them that makes them feel very special. I want them to be this species that is truly unique to halo as we have had some subtle hints to something else out there that even bungie hinted at back in the day.

  • @sneakyninja2773
    @sneakyninja2773 Před měsícem +6

    Listen, Despondant Pyres audio logs are so good dude. I absolutely love the mystery we have in Halo again. Much better than the Created storyline.

  • @mortman200
    @mortman200 Před měsícem +5

    To a lesser degree the Banished could also be applied to your retroactive addition critique. The way Halo Wars 2 establishes them as this new super faction that the Covenant never came close to defeating feels like an exaggeration at first because Isabel is scared. But then in Infinite they make mincemeat of the Infinity via an ambush and the game definitely wants to emphasize the Banished as the new big bad Covenant replacement. Now I like the Banished because space pirates are cool, but they do feel like the latest in a line of Covenant successors trying to fill the role for gameplay and story purposes.

  • @geoffsteichen3126
    @geoffsteichen3126 Před měsícem +4

    Remember the dialogues released on delta halo about “meddlers” releasing the flood by accident…. If some of their species did escape and were roaming other installations, who is to say these meddlers are not the endless that escaped?

  • @garylococo2401
    @garylococo2401 Před měsícem +17

    I been saying it from day 1 the endless r precursor in orgin it makes so much sense with them the harbinger even says the same thing as the gravemind and the harbinger looks similar to abadon the precursor ai

    • @rushpatriot2866
      @rushpatriot2866 Před měsícem +2

      Precursor can take different forms. Endless could easily be precursors.

    • @garylococo2401
      @garylococo2401 Před měsícem

      @rushpatriot2866 that's wat I'm saying it makes so.much sense that they r precursor its even been hinted at

    • @rushpatriot2866
      @rushpatriot2866 Před měsícem +3

      @@garylococo2401 especially after reading the new books. Outcast I don't wanna spoil it but there's some pretty interesting stuff about the precursors in it and it just adds to this theory imo

    • @garylococo2401
      @garylococo2401 Před měsícem +1

      @rushpatriot2866 oh ik iv read that book and it was really good it really hints at the endless being precursor things definitely line up netherop it self was a precursor world

  • @noncreativeusername2940
    @noncreativeusername2940 Před měsícem +4

    Not sure if you’ll see this but in the Halo encyclopedia in the back of the book it gives a little info on the endless and states “they somehow have the ability to manipulate various forces and energy types in unique ways including a peculiar attunement to elements of living time itself, though to what extent is unknown” I’m sure you already know this though but I think it could back up your way to fix them.

  • @RAWDOGGER420
    @RAWDOGGER420 Před měsícem +120

    Endless on their KNESS!!!!!!! MEDDLERS FROM CE ON TOP!!!!!!!!

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před měsícem +39

      TOTAL MEDDLER VICTORY

    • @christianr1085
      @christianr1085 Před měsícem

      Bro I just watched his old video on h 2 and that's what I commented

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +10

      The Meddelers were Endless. I’m so certain of it. The New Halo Encyclopaedia revealed that not all Endless were imprisoned. Some of them travelled the galaxy and *other Forerunner Installations* to try and find a way to free their kind. And 343 Guilty Spark himself said that the Ship that crash-landed on Installation 04 was basically “A small reconnaissance craft” with short-range flight capabilities… implying it came from a larger fleet..

    • @RAWDOGGER420
      @RAWDOGGER420 Před měsícem +4

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 nuh uh, forget endless, embrace meddler

    • @JoAuJan
      @JoAuJan Před měsícem +2

      @@HiddenXperia I know you won’t see this but, from the moment I saw the endless I called it that the endless were the meddlers. This was on a now deleted account, so I know you won’t believe that. If you see this you won’t believe me. So yeah.

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt Před měsícem +5

    The endless turning out to be the precursors is interesting and explains why the halos don't affect them nor why they can be infected by the flood.

  • @MacThunder.
    @MacThunder. Před měsícem +83

    HiddenXperia you’re the most Evil April fools prankster.

    • @v4skunk739
      @v4skunk739 Před měsícem +3

      April fools was 9 days ago.

    • @eric8031
      @eric8031 Před měsícem +6

      @@v4skunk739some ppl joke until April is over with

    • @MacThunder.
      @MacThunder. Před měsícem +1

      Tbh last year was Arguably more evil cuz I was in limbo of either thinking it was fake or real. Because I always forget what day it is.

    • @Roy_Dudson
      @Roy_Dudson Před měsícem +1

      ​@eric8031 who tf does that?

    • @angelcabeza6464
      @angelcabeza6464 Před měsícem

      @@Roy_Dudson civilized people

  • @reneekhsoj
    @reneekhsoj Před měsícem +23

    I just kinda figured they were another child species of the precursors. Cousins to the flood

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +11

      I think that’s possible too. In Halo: Outcasts we learn that 2 Precursors hid from the Forerunners on Netherop, and while there, they advanced and guided the native species. I think the Xalanyn could be an much more successful case of that.

  • @kylereynolds9534
    @kylereynolds9534 Před měsícem +3

    You are a breath of fresh air when it comes to the lore of my favorite game series of all time. Thank you for all your videos!

  • @Ripa-Moramee
    @Ripa-Moramee Před měsícem +19

    You just convinced me on the endless being precursors. Great job.

  • @UvLch12
    @UvLch12 Před měsícem +10

    Solid theories behind the Endless, I really hope 343 has an actual plan laid out and aren't just making it all up as they go along.

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem +2

      Sure didnt catch on with 4 5 or Infinites goofy plots did ya

    • @paytonallen1027
      @paytonallen1027 Před měsícem +6

      ⁠@@Italkmadshitlol4 and infinite have good plots. And considering how far they’ve come along and have fired those empty promise makers, I think things should be looking up

    • @jamiiiedee3196
      @jamiiiedee3196 Před měsícem +2

      If 343 had a actual plan for the endless they would have shown up in the game they are teased throughout. Imagine in CE you get to 343 guilty spark and just as you enter the room with the flood the game ends 😂😂😂 343 have dogshit writing

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +2

      @@jamiiiedee3196 Lol if you think the Endless have no planning you just weren’t paying attention out of rage. All of their lore paints a consistent picture. They probably didn’t have the Full Endless in Halo Infinite (although that would be awesome) because they wanted to give a more conventional Halo experience.

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem

      @@jakespacepiratee3740 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭🤡

  • @hatguyfan22
    @hatguyfan22 Před měsícem +4

    14:05 EXACTLY! When I heard of The Endless, I was hoping they’d be a branch of the Precursors because: 1. why introduce a new race we never heard of? and 2. their name feels like something relating to Precursors, because they were omnipotent and trans-sentient.

  • @Pughhead
    @Pughhead Před měsícem +23

    16:10 What do you think of Installation00's theory that the flood aren't reincarnated/corrupted precursors but actually the precursors themselves?

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Před měsícem +1

      I prefer that one. And the idea of biased information regarding the Precursors because of all of it coming from the Forerunners fits too well to be entirely wrong.

    • @drakkonahn8544
      @drakkonahn8544 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I agree with AllMind, there's evidence in infinites NG++

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee Před měsícem +5

      Point of light disproved this with those 2 undlooded precursors.

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před měsícem +6

      Doesn't make sense after Outcasts revealed two living Precursors hiding away on Netherop, not a fan of theory overall tbh. The Flood being vengeance-reborn Precursors explains their motives very well

  • @SpartanK4102
    @SpartanK4102 Před měsícem +13

    Nice to see notifications working today!

  • @ImEmpathyTV
    @ImEmpathyTV Před měsícem +2

    I genuinely hope the Endless are Precursors, as it would tie everything together very nicely. It would set up some potential final battles for the Mantle of Responsibility too!

  • @PlasmaFool9
    @PlasmaFool9 Před měsícem +20

    343: "Write that down, write that down!!!" I seriously hope this is the direction they take for the Endless. They should just hire you to write their stories lol

  • @mr.e8566
    @mr.e8566 Před měsícem +6

    another reason why the endless are worse than the flood is that they can access neural physics easier compared to the latter, as it needs at least a gravemind to distort local slipspace whilst a single endless can bend time on their own

  • @acejay1
    @acejay1 Před měsícem

    It's wild to me that you somehow manage to put good content out with such little news etc from the studio. keep it up!

  • @shadepizza4217
    @shadepizza4217 Před měsícem +2

    The ring artefacts on zeta halo being precursor makes sense. If the halo rings functioned the same as shield worlds, the life on them surviving, then so would the precursor ruins. Although, we don't need to speculate about that, because we DO see surviving precursor ruins on delta halo in halo 2.

  • @lukethomas.125
    @lukethomas.125 Před měsícem +3

    YES! Back to form, really enjoying this video

  • @cyanspartan1757
    @cyanspartan1757 Před měsícem +5

    I always thought the Harbinger looked out of place in Halo. She kinda looks like something out of Destiny or Mass Effect tbh.

    • @markricheard1870
      @markricheard1870 Před měsícem +3

      Nah. Halo has always had relatively humanoid aliens. I’d be more surprised if she wasn’t humanoid.

  • @Wutertheodds
    @Wutertheodds Před měsícem +2

    I’m so fascinated by your storytelling ability. You have a fantastical mind my friend, I thoroughly enjoy every video and learn so much from them. Being someone who hasn’t dived into the lore outside of the games.

  • @KingDenominator
    @KingDenominator Před měsícem +2

    I initially suspected the Endless to be Precursor in origin, I mean that would explain their Immunity to the Flood.

  • @ZillennialJ
    @ZillennialJ Před měsícem +4

    The Precursors feared the Endless because they’re immune to the Flood. After the last book DROPPED A BOMB on the lore, the Endless are the only species that can resist the ‘true purpose’ of life in the galaxy.

  • @hypnotic5472
    @hypnotic5472 Před měsícem +10

    You should make a video about the master chief surviving in the malevolent creek

  • @TornHercules409
    @TornHercules409 Před měsícem +2

    Hidden, you COOKED with this video. If they really do this in the next game (which there seems to be a lot of evidence that that will be the case) then this could be huge for Halo

  • @VeritasVortex
    @VeritasVortex Před měsícem

    Love the videos, keep up the good work man!

  • @tjpprojects7192
    @tjpprojects7192 Před měsícem +4

    The ONLY way I see any of this making sense, is that if the Endless were a non-seeded species. We know that *ALL* life in Halo was seeded by the Precursors, but if the Endless evolved by random chance outside of the Precursor's seeding, that'd give them a hypothetical genetic immunity to The Flood, and potentiall the Halos. We know that while thw Flood can "corrupt" technology, it's not the same as organic assimilation, plus, the Halos don't affect technology either. So what if the Endless possess genetics that are independant, and don't use D.N.A.? They could still 100% be carbon based (maybe carbon and silicon HYBRID), but using WHOLLY incompatible genetic codes, and having a nervous system wildy different to all other life could prevent both thw Halos and Flood from affecting them.

  • @mikeyrocks8664
    @mikeyrocks8664 Před měsícem +4

    Honestly. The real reason the endless were created, in my opinion. Is that the game is rated T for teen. Losing that mature rating means losing the flood. I really think that’s why they did it.

    • @mikeyrocks8664
      @mikeyrocks8664 Před měsícem

      I mean obviously the endless hasn’t been this thing they have been playing for decades. They just needed a new bad that wasn’t full on horror zombies and they added it. And they just say oh yeah the rings don’t affect them…

  • @joewagon7464
    @joewagon7464 Před měsícem +2

    This was amazing boss you really give something to the halo lore even tho we have so much but still the endless. You might be on to something here

  • @Tetrohedracon
    @Tetrohedracon Před měsícem +2

    This is the content we needed.

  • @UlisesMartinezMx
    @UlisesMartinezMx Před měsícem +3

    Im a simple man. I see a video about the Flood and I hit like 👌

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE Před měsícem +19

    gonna be honest I don’t care about the endless at all and literally would prefer *any* story during or before the covenant war, but I can see why they could be a fun shakeup of the lore “going forward” (in theory)

    • @Anklebiting
      @Anklebiting Před měsícem +2

      i still believe they're the "meddlers" who have been hinted at in lore for years now

    • @ARandomSpecOp
      @ARandomSpecOp Před měsícem

      Wish we’d gotten an actual game about the battle for the blood moon or infinity’s fall. I feel like 343 depicts all of the major and action pact events in books or short stories and leaves the games for all of the irrelevant events

  • @sruptie
    @sruptie Před měsícem

    This got me pretty excited for what could come next.

  • @lot9272
    @lot9272 Před měsícem

    I was actually about to look into the Endless since I assumed enough time had past since the game released and new info has dropped. Perfect timing you iconic lad

  • @DeadlyGhost1207
    @DeadlyGhost1207 Před měsícem +3

    My brother in Christ, we all know that 343's Halo was a forced meme as we all know that the original intent was that the forerunners were actually themselves human which is the only way anything that Guilty Spark says makes sense.

  • @Decrepit_banana
    @Decrepit_banana Před měsícem +4

    Halo 7?

  • @AlexB_207
    @AlexB_207 Před měsícem +2

    love how all the precursor art is from rythaze, at this point 343 should be commisioning him to make official art

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  Před měsícem

      How he doesn't work for a major AAA studio as head of concept art yet is beyond me, the dude is INSANELY talented

  • @AsahiMiyagi
    @AsahiMiyagi Před měsícem +1

    Also as another side note: the Xalanyn and ultimately other species that could areive in new halo series could be 1 of 114 races aforementioned in previous halo books and perhaps the xalanyn had a deep understanding of time and some other universal mechanics to protect themselves from the Halo death areay

  • @FireFox64000000
    @FireFox64000000 Před měsícem +8

    Why are the endless stamped front and back with the marathon logo?

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem +2

      343 just trying to milk anything from the bungie era for looks and attempts at fan service, nothing more.

    • @FireFox64000000
      @FireFox64000000 Před měsícem +3

      @@Italkmadshitlol
      Don't blame 343 for what Microsoft did to them.

    • @danilosardo1179
      @danilosardo1179 Před měsícem +3

      ​@FireFox64000000 You all need to stop blaming Microsoft every time 343 fumbles the bag. 343 is the one who continues to destroy the franchise and the only fault Microsoft has is not having fired them yet

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem +1

      @@FireFox64000000 Did microsoft sit down and write out the storyboard? No?
      Ok.

    • @th3thatguy631
      @th3thatguy631 Před měsícem

      ​@@danilosardo1179 fr tho

  • @hakanflodin4555
    @hakanflodin4555 Před měsícem +4

    I will never forgive 343 for how badly they butchered Halo's story and worldbuilding

  • @opulenthalo
    @opulenthalo Před měsícem +1

    No matter the state of halo infinite, hidden Xperia will still be dropping banger vids

  • @robertcortes5883
    @robertcortes5883 Před měsícem +2

    Excellent theory breakdown!

  • @suryaselvakumar5385
    @suryaselvakumar5385 Před měsícem +61

    Halo 7 gonna be about Jimmy Rings

    • @mitwhitgaming7722
      @mitwhitgaming7722 Před měsícem +11

      With 50% of the gameplay being sex scenes...

    • @deadman900th
      @deadman900th Před měsícem +8

      ​​@@mitwhitgaming7722 and the other 50% being cutscenes or fighting around without armor

    • @7ElevenTruther
      @7ElevenTruther Před měsícem +1

      ​ @mitwhitgaming7722
      Including quick time events reminiscent of God of War 3 when Kratos claps athropdite except it's master cheeks in first person for the player's viewing pleasue. 😂

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +4

      Nah it’s likely that Halo7 will be called “Halo: the Endless” which is a great sign they aren’t abandoning the current story.

    • @Aennom_VR
      @Aennom_VR Před měsícem

      What about Dustin Echoes? Huh!?

  • @ljhawesstudios
    @ljhawesstudios Před měsícem +5

    My good sir you have the insanity of a manatee, I like the video 😎

  • @pokapoka3686
    @pokapoka3686 Před měsícem

    Love the video, can't believe it has already been 3 years since halo infinite came out...

  • @tipperii7187
    @tipperii7187 Před měsícem +1

    That's actually a really cool idea for multiple reasons. Some went down a one path (the flood), others to the endless. Oh there's so many cool things they could do with that dynamic. They could hate each other. They could work together. Either way, bad news for us. The Halos could be made an issue again because the endless want to sanitize the galaxy of their flood relatives. It also makes sense they would be immune because they had the ability to choose being flood in the first place.

  • @Younguns0375
    @Younguns0375 Před měsícem +4

    too bad Microsoft gave up on Halo or we could be hyped for a new one soon

  • @lemarseillais1383
    @lemarseillais1383 Před měsícem +8

    For me the only thing that could make the endless like legit and not just Shonen aded bad guy is, if the precursor are the reason of their existence like as a last tool for the flood to test or devour everything. BUT I would love for the ultimate bad guy in the Halo universe to be a Galaxy precursor consumed by the ancient flood that come back to our galaxy to finish the fight

  • @worby8880
    @worby8880 Před měsícem

    Great video!

  • @iamthemara4757
    @iamthemara4757 Před měsícem

    You got me back into halo thank you

  • @pekkaemperor3392
    @pekkaemperor3392 Před měsícem +3

    What if the endless are the actual chosen ones for the mantel of responsibility. History might have been re written along the line and what we know as true might not be.

  • @adaptcap115
    @adaptcap115 Před měsícem +29

    Somehow Endless Survived.

    • @ArgentWolf95
      @ArgentWolf95 Před měsícem +5

      that's what bothers me about them, it's too similar.

    • @everettjohnson9374
      @everettjohnson9374 Před měsícem +3

      Lol man yall are obsessed with that line...like somehow it actually is something bad. But hey, hating it has become your life

    • @boltPoke
      @boltPoke Před měsícem

      I really hope they handle their story well

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem

      ​@@everettjohnson9374We get it you like eating turds and being told its chocolate cake.

    • @markricheard1870
      @markricheard1870 Před měsícem +3

      Quite Expectedly, the Endless Survived. We have seen from the Primordial that Precursors on their own can survive the Halo Array.

  • @coldshoulder58
    @coldshoulder58 Před měsícem

    love the shirt! been a lone star fan for a long time

  • @Pandaman735
    @Pandaman735 Před měsícem +1

    I hope that someone, somewhere in 343i’s campaign/writing team got a notification on their phone today for a new HiddenXperia video. 😔😭

  • @guiltyspanxs
    @guiltyspanxs Před měsícem +4

    Alright now we just have to hope they keep the story going and not start over again 😭

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica Před měsícem

      Good thing they haven't started over at all with the story

  • @blackhock2084
    @blackhock2084 Před měsícem +10

    Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t the Flood also immune to the Halos? In CE at least the halos are stated to only kill the Flood’s food, starving them to death, but not actually hurting the Flood directly.
    Assuming that is true, and that the Endless are reincarnated Precursors, it would explain why the Endless survived the halos: the Precursors are immune to the Halos. The Endless survived where the Flood didn’t because the Endless still had food.

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem +5

      Yeah, but then you have 343 who never knew Halo and admitted as such and just started slapping their trash retcons and fanfics in so who knows now 🤷‍♂️

    • @CanyonALynn
      @CanyonALynn Před měsícem

      That's what I thought too... because the Precursors are themselves immune, just not their "food".

    • @xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7
      @xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 Před měsícem +4

      @@Italkmadshitlolhey wait a minute, if 343 Hates Halo, how could they make FAN Fiction? Lol it makes sense that the Halo Array kills the Flood because the Flood aren’t true Precursors, they are deeply twisted and corrupted.

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem

      @@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 the same way a 12 yr old will take some kind of franchise and write about the main character shoving broken shards of glass up their poo chute, because they hate it.
      Go ahead and jump thru some more mental hoops n loops to justify a dogshit company and its writing. Whatever helps you cope with it.

  • @crazyguy_1233
    @crazyguy_1233 Před měsícem +1

    I completely agree. I was actually discussing this with my friend after we finished the campaign. The only logical step is to make the Endless Precursors.

  • @ctspoafarm
    @ctspoafarm Před měsícem +2

    Mabey 343 is just having us find out about the endless as the master chief is

  • @bigyoshi5170
    @bigyoshi5170 Před měsícem +5

    Who wins? The Started or the Endless?

  • @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime
    @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime Před měsícem +10

    Flood immunity?! What is this sacrilege?!

    • @williamklemp3764
      @williamklemp3764 Před měsícem

      The flood work by taking over and infecting the nervous system, and the Endless don't have a nervous system, ergo immunity to the flood.
      I'm not saying it's not plausible, as we don't know anything about alien biology, but I find it difficult to believe a species of space-farimg intellect lack the ability to be nervous 😂

    • @sgtaveryjohnson3803
      @sgtaveryjohnson3803 Před měsícem +1

      If you take into account everything that's happened in the halo universe, its not really impossible ✨️

    • @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime
      @Ilostscourgeisoptimusprime Před měsícem

      @@sgtaveryjohnson3803 yeah I can see that but at least make the immune creatures actually cool

    • @anusername8350
      @anusername8350 Před měsícem

      ​@@sgtaveryjohnson3803username checks out

    • @Italkmadshitlol
      @Italkmadshitlol Před měsícem +8

      ​@@sgtaveryjohnson3803Yeah its impossible considering everything post-Bungie is just bad fanfiction. Sorry the theres no Flood cure, Humans ARE Forerunner, and 4 5 and Infinite never happened. You died with honor on the Replacement Installation 04. Thats it.

  • @aced4fun
    @aced4fun Před měsícem

    Dude this channel is literally right next to 600k come on man

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 Před měsícem +2

    Their outfit design look like Makyr race in Doom Eternal.

  • @sushrutvartak8252
    @sushrutvartak8252 Před měsícem +3

    I think a great way to make the Endless feel like a big threat while also not nullifying the Flood's threat would be to have the Endless be somehow immune to the Halos but NOT to The Flood. This would explain why the Forerunners tried to imprison them while making the Flood even more terrifying as now there is a way for it to survive the Halos firing.

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee Před měsícem

      Wouldn't it make sense for the endless to be precursors and with neural physics, can take control of the flood acting as more deadly keymind due to their space magic?

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Před měsícem +4

      Nah. I think it’s more poetic and tragic if the Endless was Immune, and totally in line with Halos type of stories. They find the answer to the Floods infection far too late.
      I don’t want the Endless just to be a threat “because of the flood” if that’s the case, they have no threat in the post-flood Galaxy the Forerunners made. Plus, the Lore never really hints at this. The Forerunners didn’t say the Endless must be imprisoned “to preserve our truth” how does that connect to the flood?

  • @markricheard1870
    @markricheard1870 Před měsícem +3

    I know this is a controversial opinion but I actually find the Endless a bit cooler than the Flood. We have seen the Flood many times and they will always do things that we expect. We know what they are and where they come from so they don’t have much “Eldrich and unknowable” feeling to me. I really find it cool how the Xalanyn can use frickin Magic and seems to have a big connection to the Mantle of Responsibility. What separates them from the Flood to me is that they have Emotions. The Xalanyn has wants, desires, feelings of pain, and even fear. We can’t really get that from the Flood. This is also why I grew to like the Created, because Chief having to fight and potentially kill the AI he loved is very emotionally powerful…. Until Halo Infinite killed her off with no Created Army confrontation or anything. Which is ultimately fine as I think the Endless are more fascinating and unique!

  • @ultra_phantomaj8300
    @ultra_phantomaj8300 Před měsícem +1

    I think the Endless just being another form of Precursors would also make the most sense.On one hand, it has that flood convertibility that would make them the most dangerous should they convert, and on another, the design of The Harbinger seems at least a little in line with the design of The Primordial.

  • @TheSideLineAnomaly
    @TheSideLineAnomaly Před měsícem +4

    To be honest, my prediction for the story of the Endless in the next Halo campaign will be....Nothing. Knowing the track record of 343s handles the narrative and how in 4 and 5 set up two new villains, one who got defeated in a comic (Didact), and the other being swept under the rug by mentioning their defeat in a cutscene (The Created Faction) I suspect that like the other games 343 will chicken out once again because their game wasn't loved by 100% of fans and just have an audio log or cutscene that quickly explains them away and we will never see them as a enemy we get to fight in-game or hear from them lore wise ever again.

  • @rantradio
    @rantradio Před měsícem +3

    Let's be honest, with 343s track record on new games, the next Halo will be 1yr later, we've left Zeta Halo behind with No lore dump, the Endless have been stopped/defeated/kept sealed off screen, Infinity is back in space with a whole crew to restaff it, and we May get Lasky back..... Probably as a Spartan V

  • @theharbinger00
    @theharbinger00 Před měsícem

    I really hope in future games or comics we get more dive into obscure places and races, like the underwater forerunner temple/maybe precursors from the dazreme underwater homeworld

  • @TheMysticalTank
    @TheMysticalTank Před měsícem +1

    The Endless felt like a last minute addition, a shot in the dark.

  • @Deprived_Dolphin
    @Deprived_Dolphin Před měsícem +7

    Nothing about the Endless is exciting at all. Pointlessness.

    • @Deprived_Dolphin
      @Deprived_Dolphin Před měsícem +1

      “Is immune to EVERYTHING!”
      What the hell is the point to such a plot? That is absolutely meaningless writing, 343 needs to give up the rights to halo, these people are stupid.

  • @weston596
    @weston596 Před měsícem +1

    I think that The Endless are DIRECTLY connected to the Flood. If you listen to the audio logs in Infinite, the way she says "Now *I* shall talk and *you* shall listen." Literally has the same notes as Gravemind when he says it in H2.

  • @azzrus2499
    @azzrus2499 Před měsícem +3

    The allure and mystery of the endless is what i wanted from the forerunners all those years ago in the previous games.

  • @KindredMixedBlade
    @KindredMixedBlade Před měsícem

    Your comparison between zombies and halo made my week lol.

  • @BlaizedAsh
    @BlaizedAsh Před měsícem

    I have never wanted one of your theories to be true as much as this one. Honestly the theory about the endless being precursors that didn’t become the flood would make a sick halo storyline. Imagine the flood vs precursors, two species derived from the original precursors with clashing ideals on the future of the galaxy with humanity stuck in the middle.

  • @hightechredneck6017
    @hightechredneck6017 Před měsícem +2

    The endless could be Humanity's final test....

    • @Connor8609
      @Connor8609 Před měsícem

      This is more or less where I landed on it. Essentially see the Endless as the Precursors' champion to inherit the mantle. Them and humanity must fight it out for control of the galaxy. The Endless believe they're just inheriting the universe from their creators but don't know that the precursors are just also setting them up for eventual slaughter as well.