Yes, exactly! This viewer has been foamy at the mouth at other seeing other flats in her building fitted with mind-boggling locks which can be opened by either a key or combination, so the madness of that product is not even unique! Why the heck do lock makers go to the bother of adding more mechanism, in the one way which unambiguously and obviously reduces the value of the product? Why does any one ever buy such a nonsensical thing? That night watch feature is a great idea, though; really ought be standard on residential locks! Hopefully that catches on, it's less likely to be seen as "unsightly" than a standalone latch for the purpose, so more likely to be widely adopted.
"don't mind me, i'm just testing your locks! Once i unlock it, i promise i will lock it again! If you excuse me... *3 in binding... a click out of 4*....."
its a little ironic that his face and (potentially) his identity was given up by none other then a masterlock! one way or the other, their locks will almost try to be insecure!
I love the engineering and effort that goes into locks. However in a residential situation the population doesn't need to determine if their lock is pick proof, on the basis that their windows are most likely not brick proof.
LPL may have defeated Master Lock in a million ways, but Master Lock defeated LPLs anonymity! The shiny things gets 'em every time. Chris Fix accidentally revealed his face in much of the same way, since then he always wears a bike helmet when filming videos
Ever feel like you're in the matrix sometimes? You find a good channel, watch a few videos, and suddenly you know how to pick locks, or make explosives.
Perhaps explosives weren't the ideal second example, they were just the first thing that came to mind... I also learned how to build a heat powered (External combustion) engine, so theres that...
@@One1One1111 Well, wouldn't this be an epic conversation through time if you read this? Given my original post was 2 years ago now, and yours 6 months. I've seen a few videos on making a stirling engine out of varius cheap parts, I can't remember which channel it was but quite a few cover the topic, and I can't find the video I saw. Applied science can teach you how to build an electron microscope as well, though and he covers similar topics.
I'm always amazed on how they f*ck up. You might guess, that at some point in time, while engineering, someone might think "uh, could someone actually open this by sticking stuff in holes?". But no. Someone could also think "uh, the third number actually does NOTHING, simply turning the knob until the unlockin mechanism engages after the second number is enough". Nope. Not at Master Lock. Their Speed Dial lock? Ingenious mechanism, really. But the body can be opened from the outside by removing three screws (okay one is a one-way screw, but with a little effort you get that out as well). WTF.
Only thing needed would be a thin plate to prevent manipulation of that lock. They even have screws I there that could hold that plate on place . Then again that plate would cost 10-20 cents to manufacture .
I haven't watched his channel a lot -- in fact I'm surprised that Master Lock products are bad lock picking wise-- but I'm also surprised that LPL (Lockpickinglawyer) didn't cover the Master Lock Speed Dial Lock, because my school had some pretty interesting history with that lock. During first semester of freshman year, everyone either had the standard combination lock you can get from Walmart and/or rent from the school (both Master Lock), or the Speed Dial. I believe around second semester of that year, or maybe even the beginning of sophmore year, the school enacted a very strict ban on the Speed Dial, even going so far as to cut off the offending locks (but not before asking the owner if they're going to replace it with a school certified lock). I believe that was because the Speed Dial was super easy to break manually, and I could see why -- the case that held the locking mechanism was probably made from plastic, or some soft metal. I never held it in my hand, but I'm curious to see the security flaws it has.
IMO if somehow RL works like it should... Master:........ .....uh.... let's get back to you..... Hey! We are calling. No, we are NOT bringing legal issues. We'd like to HIRE you. We'll have you working with our engineers, who are jaw-dropped over your vids! They have tons of ideas and we want to work with you. Now, mind you what we make needs to be manufactured at a sane price, but again that's why we are having you talk with our engineers, they'll put you through the details on how these are made. Long and short we'll make something challenging for YOU to pick with your compensated help. You to pick +5 mins = our worst goal, 15, 30 minutes the premium. Your pick time likely = 1/10th the time of all but the most advanced thieves, 30% of said thieves just know the simple tricks you exploit which we need to PURGE from anything above a Kindegartener's lunchbox and knew it with or without CZcams. We might not want you to do a CZcams video on it, but we'll work with you so you can endorse it or not regardless of how it turns out... etc. till you are an Engineering assistant and staff lawyer for Master and possibly other locks, or other makers begging to headhunt/recruit you or licence patents from Master! Sadly, not likely in RL, but hopefully!
@Soturian No, they are rated on what an average thief will do. As in they are strong because they assume people don't pick locks. When master makes shitty cores though, thieves will do some research and they'll reap the rewards of a careless company.
It looks like this is effectively a two number combination, since the third number latches in as you get to it. It's pretty much impossible to miss it.
Been watching a lot of your videos on your channel lately and I like how every lock opens with ease to you no matter how difficult the lock is. Very impressive skills . Glad to be a new subscriber ~
Cool lock .. 1st time seeing one.. I'd buy one. I like that the combo can be changed. I don't like the night latch feature though. That can be an issue at times. I'm a locksmith that deals primarily with muli family housing. Locks like these can be used to allow tenants entry without issuing keys. The landlord holds the key for access. In the real world, locks keep honest people honest. No junkie is going to pick a lock. If they want to get in they will find a way. Usually by smashing the door or window. Picking is locksmith skill..
pjdambra That’s why you have a nice Mossberg 500. If the crackhead enters your house uninvited, rack the shotgun, and nine times out of ten, the little shithead will piss themselves and run off. Or if they don’t, just go ahead and shoot em. This will only fuck you over if you live in a blue state like I do.
Funnily enough this video resulted in a sale for Master Lock. I bought the version of this deadbolt sans the combination-lock feature. The "Night Watch" feature that LPL demonstrated is legitimately useful and makes the lock completely pick-proof for the most important time: when you're at home. Also, it can be enabled even when you're not at home if you leave through another door that is far less likely to be attacked. I only wish there was a good way to replace or repin the cylinder to make it a bit harder to pick, since I'm pretty sure the version I bought doesn't even have the bump pin, let alone any other anti-pick features.
To repin, follow his disassembly demonstration and use the master pinning kit he mentioned. Anyway the traditional alternative to that "nightwatch" feature is a traditional hand operated sliding bolt mounted on the inside of the door.
It continues to amuse me how LPL and Bill both will just shred Masterlock with every product they have. Every single video, they either pick the core with a chewed-on zip tie, or they show that the lock is mostly OK except for one or two absolutely damning flaws that make it so you can just not bother with the core at all so long as you've got some shim stock.
Thanks for stripping both sides of the lock, it was great to see the inside of the combination section as well as the lock itself. With no cuts on the 4 and 5 pins, this was basically a 3-pin lock wasn't it? Why hasn't anyone sued Master for false promises from their name?
Master never ceases to amaze me on how spectacularly they can mess up. I mean, COME ON! Methods like bypassing with shims, picking etc. have been in existence ever since locks were "invented". I don't get why engineers at Master Lock don't see such pretty obvious design flaws. It should be obvious to at least once think "uh, okay, is there any opening in the housing where I could stick something in and can actually manipulate the locking mechanism?". And what the hell is wrong with the third number? You don't even need to know it, you just turn that darn knob until the unlocking mechanism starts turning, reducing it to a two number lock. This also should have been obvious at the time this was engineered. They keep on failing spectacularly. They have really ingenious mechanisms like the Speeddial.. and then they put into a body, which can be opened and unlocked in locked state by simpling removing three screws from the outside of the lock. WTF??? Thanks again for your really interesting review. I simply don't get Master Lock.
They know. They just do not care. They know 99.9999% of the people that buy their products do not know anything about locks and they know 99.999% of the people that try to get into something are just going to break the lock instead of picking it if they want to get into something, so they pay no attention to the picking issues. Your average person is dumb. That is their target customer base. Cannot blame them for just putting out the least effort needed to get that customer base's money.
What an interesting lock, those combo wheels could use some false gates tho. It's good to see spooled key pins, I normally have to make them myself because they don't come in most pin sets, what a shame that master made it so easy to bypass, all they had to do would be to add a raised lip and corresponding groove on the dial to practically eliminate the bypass issue.
@@tygonmaster Not necessarily true. It isn't true if the lock has separate action lever and not using the dial itself for action. Set the dials correctly and then use a separate button/handle etc. to try to turn the lock open. If the dials are wrong, even the third one, the lock binds. This is how most safes combination locks work. They have a separate lever to try to open. For more security one also would have locking teeth/brake system so one can't try to push tension on the lever and just run the dial to feel for gates drop in. Rather the first thing the opening lever does is hit brakes on the dials locking in the current combination and then goes further and tries to get the sidebar to drop into the gates. So one would have to try one by one dialing in the combination. Of course there is brute forcing dialer machines, that do do the try, release, dial, try,release, dial. However that gets to a pretty, big, complex and expensive. No way around it anyway. Since then the machine is just doing what normal user does. For example this master lock could have inner and outer dial. The outer top dial dialing in the combination and then essentially a round cylinder handle beneath, that one would have to turn to actually turn the body and thus try to get the sidebar to drop.
I’ve done my share of ripping on Masterlock, but I do have to (maybe) defend them here. You showed the shim-bypass, with the lock NOT installed. If it was installed, do you still think that those shims would be strong enough, to actuate the entire bolt mechanism? I have my doubts, especially since most installations aren’t aligned correctly, and the bolt rubs against the strike plate. Even without interference, from a poorly-aligned strike plate, I have my doubts that the shim bypass would work. There just wouldn’t be enough leverage. I hate to make extra work for you, but could you install it, into an old door, and try it again? I’m not even asking for it to be installed into a hung door, with a frame and strike plate. I just want to see those shims turn the entire, installed bolt mechanism, alone. We’re all guilty of slagging MasterLock, and most of it is justified, but we need to be fair, and test their locks under normal operating conditions. If we can’t be fair, what’s the point of doing any of this? If your two shims will actuate the entire, installed lock, that WOULD be “unforgivable”. However, as I said earlier, I have some justifiable doubt.
It would only take a curved lip. *One* extra manufacturing step. A stamped metal process, so nothing really fancy, and it would stop any shim from getting inside. There's no excuse. If an installed bolt is too tight for the shim to turn it, then a couple more minutes making a better shim is all that's needed. If you need to pry the "knob" a bit to fit it in, so be it.
I love those shims lol. Anytime we got something with a packet of those in it at the store I would peel them off and play with them. I was a curious kid and wanted to find out how they worked. So it's a bit of a throwback for me seeing those strips of metal.
Damn I had an idea for a lock literally exactly like this and now it exists Edit: nvm wth I wanted one where you can only turn the combination with the key that way you have to not only know the combo but repick after it goes past 0
That’s how the lock on my old work’s safe worked. The dial wouldn’t turn unless you unlocked it with a key. Rather ironically, we used it opposite to the maker’s intention. Given we were a museum and just using it as a giant fire/water-resistant box for documents, the dial was locked to prevent someone from accidentally locking it shut.
Your average thief will throw a brick through a window. Sadly, they won't check for an open window first, nor a rock laying on the ground near by. But, they might be caught on Home Depot's surveillance camera buying said brick.
Hey, that that gave me an idea for a REAL PICK-PROOF-ISH lock design: A plain combination lock, but the dial must be operated by a key. That way you wouldn’t be able to keep tension when you switch direction. It would need to be repicked each time. Plus you still have the combination system to figure out
this is actually an amazing concept IMO.... i cannot begin to count the number of times having this type of lock in my life would have benefited me (from days past in elementary school till the present)
As you've worked with this lock, does it appear that there's room to put some kind of shield inside of the housing between the outside fixed ring and the outside combination wheel to prevent ready probing of the inner ring? Seems like a simple flat sheet metal washer-type ring could prevent access to the roll pins if it would fit. It looks like most of the key-centered flaws can be mitigated with different pins and some forethought when rekeying.
Watching this again, after a few years. It'd be tricker to pull off with the shim when on a door. 4 oclock is like 1-2 inches from the frame of the door. Very tight working space. Doesn't remove the vulnerability but does add time to the bypass.
I just realized the lock is reflective enough that we can see his face. He has a beard and is pretty cute. Mrs. Lockpicking Lawyer definitely scored on this.
Someone should open a company where all the prototype locks are tested by you, and then once it has your seal of approval, they release the official lock
really interesting lock, and an interesting concept, and really fitting for the company. Master is probably best known for locks that you don't need keys to unlock.
"I think someone more skilled at manipulation then me would be able to take advantage of that" Dude, it is almost scarey to think there are people even better then you out there. XD
nice concept... but it's a master lock... on that note it looks like the whole body is cast zinc(not the first time master lock has used zinc, watched someone melt the core out of a lock)... do you like to try destructive tests? because i'm sure that lock will fail under a small pocket torch in under 1 min! honestly i'd get a good machinist to CNC one out of solid brass, steel combo rings(although the ones in there look like they'd be fine) and maybe even add another ring or two from a second scrapped lock and make it a 4-5 digit combo(would need to modify the depth of the body), pin up a custom set of pins using all of the available spaces... perhaps even change up the core altogether for a better warded key way. but that's just my thoughts :) even different diameter pins to really screw with the feedback!
Is there something they could have done about that bypass issue? Maybe having some kind of lip around the edge to stop the shim getting in? I know it would be pointless anyway as most combination locks are easy enough to figure out but still, it would be an improvement.
What about a lock that requires a key to turn the combination dial? I guess the lock here still has practical use -if not more- (since it allows people without keys in when necessary, while also giving a more convenient option for those who regularly use it), but putting the two mechanisms in series instead of parallel would add additional security layer.
Would love to see a video with one of your cutaway locks demonstrating how the various types of security pins help to protect against different types of attacks.
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Lock: partially reflects LPL’s face
LPL: “An Inexcusable design flaw.”
he's got a beard!
"I felt one 'security' pin, if you even want to call it that"
Completely melted the lock with that burn
Solrac Mustache Man. yes🤣
🤣🤣
Was melted from the begining
Talk about non-destructible-picking ;)
Masterlock "We have made a lock with two different ways of access"
LPL "You mean you have doubled the vulnerabilities?"
Underated comment XD
DefinitelyNotDan yes
Punker also yes
Yes, exactly! This viewer has been foamy at the mouth at other seeing other flats in her building fitted with mind-boggling locks which can be opened by either a key or combination, so the madness of that product is not even unique! Why the heck do lock makers go to the bother of adding more mechanism, in the one way which unambiguously and obviously reduces the value of the product? Why does any one ever buy such a nonsensical thing?
That night watch feature is a great idea, though; really ought be standard on residential locks! Hopefully that catches on, it's less likely to be seen as "unsightly" than a standalone latch for the purpose, so more likely to be widely adopted.
@@longanh9151 Matt from EBF?
St Peter at the Pearly Gates:
What are you doing?
LPL: "One is binding, we got a click from two. . ."
😂😂 Underrated comment
@@RAYTHEONGAMING 💖
"don't mind me, i'm just testing your locks! Once i unlock it, i promise i will lock it again! If you excuse me... *3 in binding... a click out of 4*....."
🤣🤣🤣
so original its posted on every single video
Now I finally know the face behind the voice, from the reflections inthe beginning.
Firefly AUT yes not what i was expecting,he looks like a soccer dad
its a little ironic that his face and (potentially) his identity was given up by none other then a masterlock! one way or the other, their locks will almost try to be insecure!
Wil I dont understand American Deadbolts, it seems so inferrior to the european locking system
He looks like a lawyer, not even bad.
At least he picks locks wearing clothing. :)
"Deeply flawed" should be Master Lock's product description and company tagline.
Nobody unlike or add a like to this comment. Nobody.
@@brandonspringer too late my friend
@@tchgs11zdok15 not too late😏
I love the engineering and effort that goes into locks. However in a residential situation the population doesn't need to determine if their lock is pick proof, on the basis that their windows are most likely not brick proof.
unless you buy some good glass
What about the silent assassins?
JessicaFEREM Or some iron bars
Good luck with that my windows have interior bars
@@goreobsessed2308 How do you get out in case of a fire?
Him: *won first place in lockfest competition*
Also him: I think someone more skilled at manipulation then me would be able to take advantage of that
If someone were more skilled than him, they might well be getting paid good money to not reveal their skills in competitions...
let's just say people more skilled than him are...well... people who nobody knows even after they've stolen from you
I think he meant combination lock manipulation. Like for example Jeff Sitar: czcams.com/video/qw_4HQMS-pk/video.html
Hes a picking master he isnt as good at manipulation.
There's always a bigger fish
1:39 small face reveal!!!! lmao the reflection in the lock has shown our master!!!
Yeah, I saw that, too --- we finally got to see his bearded ugly mug, but did we faint from the experience??? :P :D
ALL HAIL LPL!
MasterLock when hiring a hitman: *So then, this reflection would be your target*
A bit of a face reveal, and partial fingerprints. Caught LPL in a rare slip-up!
LPL may have defeated Master Lock in a million ways, but Master Lock defeated LPLs anonymity!
The shiny things gets 'em every time. Chris Fix accidentally revealed his face in much of the same way, since then he always wears a bike helmet when filming videos
"...someone more skilled at manipulation than me..."
LOL! Who on God's green earth would that be?
I know right? He's skilled at manipulation in tight spaces to reach just the right spots. His wife must *really* be glad.
Bosnianbill.
I mean, he's a lockpicker AND a lawyer
How about this guy... czcams.com/video/qw_4HQMS-pk/video.html
@@slickchichen I mean... Yeah, probably
12 minute video from LPL "oh, must be a really good lock.."
Oh no, a MasterLock!
"until we hear a loud click"
*Tiny click happens*
"I hope you could hear it"
This is a remarkably shiny & reflective lock. Also functions as a mirror! 2:06
Another flaw by master lock
Woah secret functions!!!! You must work for Masterlock!!
An inexcusable design flaw.
"master lock" and "deeply flawed" seem to go together a lot.
Ever feel like you're in the matrix sometimes? You find a good channel, watch a few videos, and suddenly you know how to pick locks, or make explosives.
Perhaps explosives weren't the ideal second example, they were just the first thing that came to mind... I also learned how to build a heat powered (External combustion) engine, so theres that...
On which channel did you learn that? And yeah i know what you mean
Or build a dirt mansion with a pool
@@One1One1111 Well, wouldn't this be an epic conversation through time if you read this? Given my original post was 2 years ago now, and yours 6 months. I've seen a few videos on making a stirling engine out of varius cheap parts, I can't remember which channel it was but quite a few cover the topic, and I can't find the video I saw. Applied science can teach you how to build an electron microscope as well, though and he covers similar topics.
@@umbrakinesis2011 have you learnt anything new now?
Lpl : absolutely inexcusable vulnerability
Me : has no idea what just happened
He just stuck a tiny piece of metal and turned the lock around and in the same amount of time it would take a person to unlock it correctly.
Me on every single video of his i watch.. everyday :)
Very interesting lock. Pretty cool actually. But of course it being a Master Lock they found a way to screw up a good thing.
I'm always amazed on how they f*ck up. You might guess, that at some point in time, while engineering, someone might think "uh, could someone actually open this by sticking stuff in holes?". But no. Someone could also think "uh, the third number actually does NOTHING, simply turning the knob until the unlockin mechanism engages after the second number is enough". Nope. Not at Master Lock.
Their Speed Dial lock? Ingenious mechanism, really. But the body can be opened from the outside by removing three screws (okay one is a one-way screw, but with a little effort you get that out as well). WTF.
no-trick-pony_lockpicking I have a speed dial I'm thinking of doing a video on my friend.
I would love to see one! :)
Only thing needed would be a thin plate to prevent manipulation of that lock.
They even have screws I there that could hold that plate on place .
Then again that plate would cost 10-20 cents to manufacture .
I haven't watched his channel a lot -- in fact I'm surprised that Master Lock products are bad lock picking wise-- but I'm also surprised that LPL (Lockpickinglawyer) didn't cover the Master Lock Speed Dial Lock, because my school had some pretty interesting history with that lock. During first semester of freshman year, everyone either had the standard combination lock you can get from Walmart and/or rent from the school (both Master Lock), or the Speed Dial. I believe around second semester of that year, or maybe even the beginning of sophmore year, the school enacted a very strict ban on the Speed Dial, even going so far as to cut off the offending locks (but not before asking the owner if they're going to replace it with a school certified lock). I believe that was because the Speed Dial was super easy to break manually, and I could see why -- the case that held the locking mechanism was probably made from plastic, or some soft metal. I never held it in my hand, but I'm curious to see the security flaws it has.
1:24 Oh. That's what you look like.
anon ymous he looks like critikal
Syco
Correction: that's what he looks like with a fake beard.
I can bareley even make out that there is even a face there how do you guys know what he looks like
Handlebar moustache.
Master: Stop showing people how crap our stuff is, we have lawyers, you know?!
You: I am a lawyer.
Master: .....................
i thought it was funny when bosnianbill got the nasty note from master lock :)
link?
IMO if somehow RL works like it should...
Master:........
.....uh....
let's get back to you.....
Hey! We are calling. No, we are NOT bringing legal issues. We'd like to HIRE you.
We'll have you working with our engineers, who are jaw-dropped over your vids! They have tons of ideas and we want to work with you. Now, mind you what we make needs to be manufactured at a sane price, but again that's why we are having you talk with our engineers, they'll put you through the details on how these are made.
Long and short we'll make something challenging for YOU to pick with your compensated help. You to pick +5 mins = our worst goal, 15, 30 minutes the premium. Your pick time likely = 1/10th the time of all but the most advanced thieves, 30% of said thieves just know the simple tricks you exploit which we need to PURGE from anything above a Kindegartener's lunchbox and knew it with or without CZcams. We might not want you to do a CZcams video on it, but we'll work with you so you can endorse it or not regardless of how it turns out...
etc. till you are an Engineering assistant and staff lawyer for Master and possibly other locks, or other makers begging to headhunt/recruit you or licence patents from Master!
Sadly, not likely in RL, but hopefully!
doesn't mean he is adept at defending himself in that situation. Same reason Doctors do consults.
@Soturian No, they are rated on what an average thief will do.
As in they are strong because they assume people don't pick locks.
When master makes shitty cores though, thieves will do some research and they'll reap the rewards of a careless company.
It looks like this is effectively a two number combination, since the third number latches in as you get to it. It's pretty much impossible to miss it.
Been watching a lot of your videos on your channel lately and I like how every lock opens with ease to you no matter how difficult the lock is. Very impressive skills . Glad to be a new subscriber ~
When lpl talks about Master locks it reminds me of when my teachers said I " wasn't applying myself", lol.
You can tell he really enjoys his job. I can appreciate that
Cool lock .. 1st time seeing one.. I'd buy one. I like that the combo can be changed. I don't like the night latch feature though. That can be an issue at times. I'm a locksmith that deals primarily with muli family housing. Locks like these can be used to allow tenants entry without issuing keys. The landlord holds the key for access. In the real world, locks keep honest people honest. No junkie is going to pick a lock. If they want to get in they will find a way. Usually by smashing the door or window. Picking is locksmith skill..
pjdambra That’s why you have a nice Mossberg 500. If the crackhead enters your house uninvited, rack the shotgun, and nine times out of ten, the little shithead will piss themselves and run off. Or if they don’t, just go ahead and shoot em. This will only fuck you over if you live in a blue state like I do.
watching your videos i've realized the best way to keep my house secure is to replace my doors and windows with brick walls
He talks so calmly, I can imagine him in the apocalypse, picking into other peoples bunkers and showing them why their locks are bad
Those “tongs” are actually locking artery clamps. Medical devices that are very handy for all sorts of things.
I have used Magills to get all sorts of things from difficult places.
Funnily enough this video resulted in a sale for Master Lock. I bought the version of this deadbolt sans the combination-lock feature. The "Night Watch" feature that LPL demonstrated is legitimately useful and makes the lock completely pick-proof for the most important time: when you're at home. Also, it can be enabled even when you're not at home if you leave through another door that is far less likely to be attacked.
I only wish there was a good way to replace or repin the cylinder to make it a bit harder to pick, since I'm pretty sure the version I bought doesn't even have the bump pin, let alone any other anti-pick features.
To repin, follow his disassembly demonstration and use the master pinning kit he mentioned.
Anyway the traditional alternative to that "nightwatch" feature is a traditional hand operated sliding bolt mounted on the inside of the door.
I've also had doors with a similar feature with the inside knob: turn left to unlock, center to lock, and far right to lock and disable the key.
Well done that was an excellent bypass, never seen that type of lock, so very informative!!
It continues to amuse me how LPL and Bill both will just shred Masterlock with every product they have. Every single video, they either pick the core with a chewed-on zip tie, or they show that the lock is mostly OK except for one or two absolutely damning flaws that make it so you can just not bother with the core at all so long as you've got some shim stock.
LPL has much more hair than I expected. I was thinking of someone who looks more like Grady from Practical Engineering
That 6 piece screwdriver pen is a lifesaver! Glad I'm not the only one using it
Thanks for stripping both sides of the lock, it was great to see the inside of the combination section as well as the lock itself. With no cuts on the 4 and 5 pins, this was basically a 3-pin lock wasn't it? Why hasn't anyone sued Master for false promises from their name?
Shim to simply turn the lock?
SERIOUSLY??
As an old clock lover I dig this. I've always been into small machined parts. Especially brass.
The lockpicking lawer called something unlockable, I consider that very noteworthy
How did I know that the phrase "Deeply flawed" was going to occur. Oh yes it's a Master lock.
Donald Sayers direct translation of masterlock in most languages turns out to be " deeply flawed"
Master never ceases to amaze me on how spectacularly they can mess up. I mean, COME ON! Methods like bypassing with shims, picking etc. have been in existence ever since locks were "invented". I don't get why engineers at Master Lock don't see such pretty obvious design flaws. It should be obvious to at least once think "uh, okay, is there any opening in the housing where I could stick something in and can actually manipulate the locking mechanism?".
And what the hell is wrong with the third number? You don't even need to know it, you just turn that darn knob until the unlocking mechanism starts turning, reducing it to a two number lock. This also should have been obvious at the time this was engineered.
They keep on failing spectacularly. They have really ingenious mechanisms like the Speeddial.. and then they put into a body, which can be opened and unlocked in locked state by simpling removing three screws from the outside of the lock. WTF???
Thanks again for your really interesting review. I simply don't get Master Lock.
your avatar is adorable. :p
Thanks! :3
they fired all their engineers and hired tons of marketing people instead.
They know. They just do not care. They know 99.9999% of the people that buy their products do not know anything about locks and they know 99.999% of the people that try to get into something are just going to break the lock instead of picking it if they want to get into something, so they pay no attention to the picking issues. Your average person is dumb. That is their target customer base. Cannot blame them for just putting out the least effort needed to get that customer base's money.
Finally saw his face and not what i expected him to look like
after watching the channel for a while i can't see myself EVER buying another master lock product
What an interesting lock, those combo wheels could use some false gates tho. It's good to see spooled key pins, I normally have to make them myself because they don't come in most pin sets, what a shame that master made it so easy to bypass, all they had to do would be to add a raised lip and corresponding groove on the dial to practically eliminate the bypass issue.
It's like Master actually know how to design a cool lock, it's just a shame they know F'all about security!
You are my favorite channel on CZcams. I like your voice and how much you teach me even if I will never use this information lol.
In the MasterLock literature: "Enemy #1: LockpickingLawyer"
so you only need to know two numbers of the combo?
+Tallif correct... the first two.
That is pretty much true for most 3-digit combination locks sadly, yes.
@@tygonmaster Not necessarily true. It isn't true if the lock has separate action lever and not using the dial itself for action. Set the dials correctly and then use a separate button/handle etc. to try to turn the lock open. If the dials are wrong, even the third one, the lock binds. This is how most safes combination locks work. They have a separate lever to try to open. For more security one also would have locking teeth/brake system so one can't try to push tension on the lever and just run the dial to feel for gates drop in. Rather the first thing the opening lever does is hit brakes on the dials locking in the current combination and then goes further and tries to get the sidebar to drop into the gates. So one would have to try one by one dialing in the combination.
Of course there is brute forcing dialer machines, that do do the try, release, dial, try,release, dial. However that gets to a pretty, big, complex and expensive. No way around it anyway. Since then the machine is just doing what normal user does.
For example this master lock could have inner and outer dial. The outer top dial dialing in the combination and then essentially a round cylinder handle beneath, that one would have to turn to actually turn the body and thus try to get the sidebar to drop.
@@aritakalo8011 I guess I should specify for my previous comment: That is pretty much true for most off-the-shelf shitty consumer combination locks.
You could easily brute force that
I’ve done my share of ripping on Masterlock, but I do have to (maybe) defend them here. You showed the shim-bypass, with the lock NOT installed. If it was installed, do you still think that those shims would be strong enough, to actuate the entire bolt mechanism? I have my doubts, especially since most installations aren’t aligned correctly, and the bolt rubs against the strike plate. Even without interference, from a poorly-aligned strike plate, I have my doubts that the shim bypass would work. There just wouldn’t be enough leverage.
I hate to make extra work for you, but could you install it, into an old door, and try it again? I’m not even asking for it to be installed into a hung door, with a frame and strike plate. I just want to see those shims turn the entire, installed bolt mechanism, alone. We’re all guilty of slagging MasterLock, and most of it is justified, but we need to be fair, and test their locks under normal operating conditions. If we can’t be fair, what’s the point of doing any of this? If your two shims will actuate the entire, installed lock, that WOULD be “unforgivable”. However, as I said earlier, I have some justifiable doubt.
I agree but there shouldn't be space for those shims anyway.
If anyone can do it. He can. Unfortunately he rarely if ever.... does follow up questions to questions like this
It would only take a curved lip. *One* extra manufacturing step. A stamped metal process, so nothing really fancy, and it would stop any shim from getting inside. There's no excuse. If an installed bolt is too tight for the shim to turn it, then a couple more minutes making a better shim is all that's needed. If you need to pry the "knob" a bit to fit it in, so be it.
I love those shims lol. Anytime we got something with a packet of those in it at the store I would peel them off and play with them. I was a curious kid and wanted to find out how they worked. So it's a bit of a throwback for me seeing those strips of metal.
1:24 Daddy Lock face reveal!
papapudding not seeing it...
Face with fake beard...
It was Master Lock plan all along...
Master Lock: We know how he looks like
Lock company: so i made this unique and interesting lock,...
Lockpickinglawyer: IM ABOUT TO END THIS MAN'S WHOLE CAREER
Bob Ross if he was a bank robber.
This man could sue all these companies for false advertisement and earn hella money damn
Damn I had an idea for a lock literally exactly like this and now it exists
Edit: nvm wth I wanted one where you can only turn the combination with the key that way you have to not only know the combo but repick after it goes past 0
That sounds like something the soviet government might use. Those paranoid commies lol
That's called 2 factor authentication.
That’s how the lock on my old work’s safe worked. The dial wouldn’t turn unless you unlocked it with a key.
Rather ironically, we used it opposite to the maker’s intention. Given we were a museum and just using it as a giant fire/water-resistant box for documents, the dial was locked to prevent someone from accidentally locking it shut.
LPL: “MasterLock’s design has some serious flaws”
Were any of us **really** surprised?
Your average thief will throw a brick through a window. Sadly, they won't check for an open window first, nor a rock laying on the ground near by. But, they might be caught on Home Depot's surveillance camera buying said brick.
Great job picking as always brother and great job exposing this bypass !
Must be one of the most fascinating hobbies to enjoy. The pleasure of seeing the "impossible" lock spring open!
Hey look, it's his face. Albeit, in a tiny reflection, but it's there nonetheless.
This should be getting more attention. :D
Hey, that that gave me an idea for a REAL PICK-PROOF-ISH lock design:
A plain combination lock, but the dial must be operated by a key. That way you wouldn’t be able to keep tension when you switch direction. It would need to be repicked each time. Plus you still have the combination system to figure out
That sounds both awesome and annoying for the owner.
this is actually an amazing concept IMO.... i cannot begin to count the number of times having this type of lock in my life would have benefited me (from days past in elementary school till the present)
I know this is an older video however except for the bypass this is an incredible lock, especially for a master brand.
Video: is 12 minutes long.
Me, a subscriber: This is surely the best Masterlock ever created. Which will still be pretty bad.
Best ASMR channel. Your voice is so smoothing XD
very cool, thanks for sharing this lock!
Very informative thank you
As you've worked with this lock, does it appear that there's room to put some kind of shield inside of the housing between the outside fixed ring and the outside combination wheel to prevent ready probing of the inner ring? Seems like a simple flat sheet metal washer-type ring could prevent access to the roll pins if it would fit.
It looks like most of the key-centered flaws can be mitigated with different pins and some forethought when rekeying.
"Someone more skilled at picking than I am."
Wait what-
Small correction, he said “someone more skilled at manipulating” not “picking”. He isn’t the best at manipulating locks.
Watching this again, after a few years. It'd be tricker to pull off with the shim when on a door. 4 oclock is like 1-2 inches from the frame of the door. Very tight working space. Doesn't remove the vulnerability but does add time to the bypass.
I just realized the lock is reflective enough that we can see his face. He has a beard and is pretty cute. Mrs. Lockpicking Lawyer definitely scored on this.
4:22 Sensormatic™ shims 😂
I wonder if Master has ever contacted him and said please stop showing how junky our locks are
LPL I did it! This guide works for decoding this combination deadbolt!
Beautiful looking lock
when i see that masterlock, i just put my screwdriver in it and twist hard.
bird718 probably can pick it faster than you can grab your screwdriver.
Someone should open a company where all the prototype locks are tested by you, and then once it has your seal of approval, they release the official lock
really interesting lock, and an interesting concept, and really fitting for the company. Master is probably best known for locks that you don't need keys to unlock.
Wow you are a master at this. Love your videos
Seems like it would be best used on a middle school locker.
"More skilled in manipulation than me" lol, as if such a person exists
It was nice to finally see your face!
This guy makes me want to pick my own locks. Like right now!
Could you disengage the night watch with a strong magnet?
Master Lock's plan here: "Send LPL a shiny lock that could reflect his face into the camera!"
I knew it, I saw that he was gonna by pass it, took one look at the lock and knew it would be the outside of the dial
“An unforgivable *sin* ”
You know he’s not messing around.
"I think someone more skilled at manipulation then me would be able to take advantage of that"
Dude, it is almost scarey to think there are people even better then you out there. XD
Did they drill out an empty 6th driver pin slot in the bible as well? Are they just being super cheap and not willing to use longer keys?
+Dave Kimball Yes... six holes on both sides.
The longer key and extra pin is worth $100 of any security enthusiast’s money.
If i was a lock manufacturer I would be sending you all my products and wait for your videos that would save me shitloads of money
7:16
In plumbing we call that a wavy washer.
nice concept... but it's a master lock... on that note it looks like the whole body is cast zinc(not the first time master lock has used zinc, watched someone melt the core out of a lock)... do you like to try destructive tests? because i'm sure that lock will fail under a small pocket torch in under 1 min! honestly i'd get a good machinist to CNC one out of solid brass, steel combo rings(although the ones in there look like they'd be fine) and maybe even add another ring or two from a second scrapped lock and make it a 4-5 digit combo(would need to modify the depth of the body), pin up a custom set of pins using all of the available spaces... perhaps even change up the core altogether for a better warded key way. but that's just my thoughts :) even different diameter pins to really screw with the feedback!
Is there something they could have done about that bypass issue? Maybe having some kind of lip around the edge to stop the shim getting in? I know it would be pointless anyway as most combination locks are easy enough to figure out but still, it would be an improvement.
Darren Jacobson invert the combo locking mechanism so it is protected by the housing?
Robert Szasz what do you mean by that?
What I've learned from watching this channel, is never by a master lock under any circumstances
The shine of that lock is what brought me here
What about a lock that requires a key to turn the combination dial? I guess the lock here still has practical use -if not more- (since it allows people without keys in when necessary, while also giving a more convenient option for those who regularly use it), but putting the two mechanisms in series instead of parallel would add additional security layer.
Let me guess,
Inexcusable vulnerability and Unforgivable Sin...
"Someone more skilled than me"
THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT
Would love to see a video with one of your cutaway locks demonstrating how the various types of security pins help to protect against different types of attacks.
I think it's a real mismatch between a voice and a face.
Someone more skilled at manipulation than me.....
So like 2 dudes right?
Really fascinating :-)
Imagine you installed this on your front door and your kid finds out about the night watch feature