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Best game. I played this in Dec when I was in town. Was into the game for $1800 and ran it all the way back in the last hour…then the game broke. Winner.
The action in LA is usually good but I’ve also seen games go from completely full to breaking within a short amount of time on multiple occasions. It is very strange
Great video, really enjoyable to watch especially with the different games a lot to think about. I'd say generally just a bit too loose in the double board hands might be an idea to keep it a bit more snug. Also looked a bit loose in the PLO8 hands too, KKQ6 should be going into the muck pre always I'd say. Would you ever be tempted to take a shot at a bigger game for the vlog or do you think its a bit early for that?
Thanks, yeah these mixed games are now my new favorite ones to play. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I agree on the bomb pots, could have folded the straight on the first one.
Yeah I’ve been taking shots at some bigger games, my next video is a 10-10 mix
1. The Q 10 bomb pot is a tough one. The fact that you had the nut flush redraw, you weren't super deep and multiple people in the pot, I think you made the right move. If you were super deep I'd fold.
2. The table is lucky you weren't dealt in, otherwise the jackpot wouldn't have hit.
Yeah it’s a close one but I think with not much on the bottom and playing against a tight opponent I should fold there.
Yeah I said the same thing to them haha, happy I got paid despite not getting dealt in.
Thanks for the feedback Mike, much appreciated!
I play hold'em as a main game, but we play bomb pots every orbit, 4/5/6 ones double board
I got quite good experience in them and I'm up a lot of money in them (have special separate count)
In the first instance it's not a fold, it's a SNAP FOLD, in a second situation it's call and fold the river
To not just "say to say" stuff, but actually give you logical explanation:
In bomb pots in general you want either have a unbreakable nuts or something that blocks others from having thing and big hand on the other board
Or having one board draw and second with a strong made hand. If you just have one board nuts, but board is fluid someone can have the same nuts, then you slowplay till turn and watch the action, just call and proceed cautiously or if the action is too big then fold the nuts (hence snap fold in first case)
Second case you clearly have a nuts, OTT on one board that nobody can have, but it's still vulnerable, you can't make a hand on the other board and even case Q could lose to a straight so, there is really no card to help. Don't blow the pot OTF, just call turn and fold the river.
If you play those spots like standard Omaha or if you try to push variance you will only end up losing 2-3 BI without a reasonable chance to get them back soon as it's not often that people will get involved.
Final word, in bomb pots with the nuts that only you can have (flush, quads etc.) You WANT more people in the pots, so, with a flush you bet small and never raise (yes, it sounds stupid, but yes!) as if board get paired you get away with a small loss, secondary you get paid by all sets that want the board paired so, if you're losing other board you chop the money you took from others, otherwise you just chop your own money and second player most often.
If you want to know a bit more about bomb pots just send me an e-mail we can just talk on Skype or elsewhere. Good luck!
I appreciate the info, you definitely seem very well-versed in them. You can email me askdonkfish@gmail.com looking forward to chatting 🍻
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Regarding the bad beat jackpot. I was once assigned to a table that had an open seat ahead of the big blind. I passed on the big blind and the table hit the jackpot. When I told the table they only hit the jackpot because I passed on the big blind, I received a total tip of $20 tip from the table. I thought I should have gotten a bit more-jackpot was $25,000 and it was $2-4 limit game! I learned a valuable lesson that day. NEVER pass on the blinds. A couple of years later I busted out and had to do the walk of shame by visiting the ATM. When I got back to the table the dealer asked if I wanted to pay for my missed blind and I said yes. The jackpot was hit that hand and I got my share!
I agree, $20 wasnt nearly enough haha.
I usually leave after my button which is exactly what I did here
Lesson learned! Glad you hit it the next time, where was this at?
Oceans 11 Casino located in Oceanside, CA. The Card room is in Northern San Diego County. The table amount was $4-8 vs what I listed earlier. I’ve actually had two table shares over the years. Both after I learned my lesson of always paying for your blinds!
@@beachliving3127 I am very familiar with Oceans 11, I play there often. My next vlog will actually be a 3 game mix similar to this game that runs there every Friday night.
Played that game there in December. If I had unlimited funds, I’d play it all the time. I liked that back “plo room” where they spread it too
Yeah it is nice being in a kind of private area. I don’t have unlimited funds but am planning on going back for revenge later this month haha
Always remember--if you'd been dealt in the hand there would have been totally different cards and no BBJ.
That’s exactly what I was telling them 😂
I wear diapers to the poker table. I'm never missing the bad beat.
About time you uploaded a new video 😉 I was needing a PLO Fix lmao! So let’s keep them coming
More to come!
I actually think you have to fold the KQT3 hand.
You know at best you are chopping and have no shot to scoop. You also know there isn’t anything else he can be potting the turn with besides Q10. Maaaybe a set of aces but that’s pretty unlikely with an ace on each board.
You have 8 outs to make a nut flush (maybe) and scoop the top board but no matter what you’re chopping. You also know you have no fold equity either
Risking your whole stack to maybe win the top board but most likely get quartered?
This is a rare scenario that only comes up in double board games, and I know it’s counterintuitive to fold the nuts with a redraw but I think you just gotta do it here.
Source: we play double board plo bomb pots every orbit at my home room.
You’re right, it makes matters worse that I played with Haven and knew he also had the QT.
There is always something new to learn in poker especially in these bomb pots haha
Thanks for the feedback man, really appreciate it 🍻
@@DonkFishPokerNo problem. It’s just you know this can never be a profitable spot given the game dynamic and it being double board. You risk your whole stack to win half the pot 20% of the time, and win a quarter of the pot 80% of the time. Sometimes you just gotta fold the nuts in double board games.
@@nicholi2789 It’s a different way of thinking in double board but you are absolutely right 🍻
Haven?? My dog! Thought that dude moved to Texas a couple years ago. If you see him again, tell him I said hi. :)
Yeah he moved back here recently and is now a reg at HP. I’ll let him know 🍻
I was just at HP about 10 days ago. My session was lack luster getting stuck on the first BP round and then fighting back to book an $85 loss. I do enjoy the room and the ROE of 3 games is a good mix. If you end up with not much in BP rounds that $120 can be draining.
Thoughts on the two big hands...on the QT with a redraw on top, but nothing on the bottom I think you have to fold. If you had as little as 3 outs on the bottom then maybe?? but realistically you are likely getting quartered and only have a flush draw for half.
On the second one I think you did fine....you have the nuts on the bottom board and a gutshot on the top. Plus with 2 clubs top and bottom the most obvious draws are blocked. It was just a bit of a cooler they hit the baby clubs on the bottom. If you think about it they did the same as you....calling your raise with nuts on one board and a 3 outer on the other.
I do like HP as a solid place to play...honoring the no missed blind to give you a table share is a good call. When Bad Beat jackpots were common in the rooms I play at, that was also the ruling.
I agree with your assessment on both the bomb pots. I don’t typically play when I’m only drawing to half at best but I guess I just got hung up on the Royal flush draw haha
The 2nd one is a bit of a cooler as you said, unfortunate he hit one of the few remaining clubs left, oh well it happens.
I’ll definitely be back there as it’s a fun mix. Maybe next time I’ll see you there, thanks for the feedback Phil!
Sounds like a sweet rotation! Great video
Extremely fun mix, my new favorite actually
Nice video man (not sure how I missed this one sorry). Rough session.
Thanks 👍
Oh, hey you are in town!
I’ll be back up in town the week of April 22nd probably playing at Hollywood Park and Hustler
I love bad beat jackpots. I was a table share once and I was just on my phone since I got dealt trash. $1100 for sitting still!
That’s definitely nice, I was relieved and surprised I actually got paid. Some players don’t want to pay the extra rake for them but I think they’re fun to have
8:32, what deck are you playing with that has 2 Jd?
Oops, a lot of times the suits are irrelevant so guess I made a mistake there. The deck did not have two J♦️ because if it did they wouldn’t have paid out the jackpot 😂
At 8:43 I am looking at 2 jacks of diamonds?
Yes you are, obviously made a mistake on that and I unfortunately can’t make any changes once the video is posted. Thanks for letting me know 🍻
Bomb pots lol - top set on a very wet board with little or no equity on the other board is always a very tough spot to be in. I suspect if you haven’t already invested too much fold is probably the right way to go as otherwise you are just giving villain a very pleasant free roll.
Obviously if the pot is multi-way that changes everything as if top set holds you actually make some money.
Yeah as I mentioned I didn’t love any option that much, thought I had to charge any draws and even if they called with a flush draw there were 2 clubs on each board so they’re blocking their own outs. Just unfortunate he hit the wheel and hit the flush on the other board. You live and you learn especially with bomb pots.
Thanks for the feedback Julian, much appreciated 🍻
Honest question I don't play plo. This is my first time seeing your videos. Are there multiple decks? At 9:15 in the video there are 2 jacks of diamonds
No, just one deck. I made a mistake on the graphics
@@DonkFishPoker thanks. Good content. I'm subbed to Owen, rampage,mariono, Wolfgang and now you. Because you actually replied and plo seems fun. Good luck with the channel
i think ur playing pretty well man!!
Thanks man, I think I misplayed at least one of those bomb pots but I’m glad my mistake can at least help others when they’re in that situation haha
Good Vlog
Thanks Joe, I appreciate the continued support 🍻
Why does tampa hard rock get so few of vloggers
The Hard Rock properties are very strict on filming. They understandably are very protective of their image so the process to get approved is lengthy.
With all of that being said I’ve never been to the Tampa Hard Rock but I’ve had nothing but extremely positive experiences at the Hollywood location.
Super well run beautiful property and Jason the poker room manager is a really cool guy. He’s a mixed game fan and it shows with the schedule he puts together.
Haven't seen your videos in a while. I assume you're going to Hollywood florida...I'm headed down there tomorrow. Playing the 1m guarantee but definitely going for the PLO games and mixed games...looks like they have plenty. Should be some fun. I'll speak if I see ya.
Yes sir, they have a variety of action packed games. I’m flying in Wednesday the 10th but probably won’t play until the 11th and we’ll be there thru the 17th. Looking forward to meeting you 🍻
Love bomb pots when i win , when I lose not so much.
It’s definitely a love hate relationship 😂
typed that comment before I saw the outcome... not enough "robust equity," too vulnerable with just a set on the bottom.
Yeah I probably played the bomb pots too loose especially the first one with nothing on the bottom board.
@@DonkFishPokeryeah that flop bet was optimistic i thought
bad shove!
first.
Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated 🍻
I had a hard time following what game was each hand 🫠🫠maybe label in the corner 🎉congrats!!
I think I said what each game was in the audio but I’ll try to label it moving forward, thanks