Retd Gen Zameer Uddin Shah on why army had to wait for 24hrs during 2002 Gujarat riots FULL VIDEO
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- In conversation with ThePrint, retd. lt. gen. and ex-AMU VC Zameer Uddin Shah talks about the 2002 Gujarat riots and how the army had to wait for 24 hours before they could take any steps to control the situation. Shah also talks about the role of the Indian army in controlling such situations and why it is important for a soldier to separate belief from duty. In addition to that, he also talks about his first meeting with Smriti Irani and how she took an instant dislike for him. Ahead of the release of his upcoming book, Sarkari Musalaman, he mentions that there two kinds of Sarkari Muslims, government servants and derogatory types. He also recalls the times he spent playing tennis in AMU with his brother Naseeruddin Shah and how big a fan he is of his movies.
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Lt.Gen.Shah Sir being an Indian and the student of AMU I am proud to have a army officer as well as Vice chancellor like you. You are a true inspiration for all of us...
This interviewer is a crook and motivated.Salute to general shah.Army makes no distinction .He went there as army general and his religion is his motherland nothing else.
This gentleman is just fantastic, literally correcting the journalist at every moment.
'When I am in the uniform, my religion is the army' 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
You're religion should be Indian..
After hanging up my uniform, I still feel that my religion is Insaniyat. God bless everyone.
Yes, we are Bharatiyas, remain Bharatiyas n extinguished as Bharatiyas !!!
@a753951852 Army is defensive/ offensive spirit of being Indian.
Then why the title of the book “Sarkari Muslim” - it speaks volumes abt Indian Muslim psyche !!!
The lady was indulging in divisive propaganda tactics, pursuing her own agenda but the General refused to stoop low to her level.
He has huge respect for democracy and the civilian govt. That's the hallmark of the Indian army
What a great man, a true Indian, and a true soldier !!
The general is an amazing man. Its sad that politicians didn't allow army to quell Gujarat riots. Very sad chapter in our history.
This man is clearly a gentleman! As we know, Irani was later kicked out from MHRD and shunted by Mr. Modi. This is what the PM had told him in the meeting. He just didn't want to be rude while revealing the details of why he felt "relieved" after meeting the PM , despite Irani's grotesque behaviour.
Poonam Abbi, wow, where do you get so much poison from?? Please see a doctor as you may be going through menopause........take some medicine to calm yourself.........
Poonam Abbi There were so many Hindu kings or rulers who were responsible for extreme atrocities against Buddhists. Following are few examples that are quoted from the source article:
1. Adi Shankara, along with Madhva and Ramanuja, was instrumental in the revival of Hinduism through aggressive and violent means
2.Pushyamitra “destroyed monasteries with relics and killed monks of good conduct.
3. Shashanka, the Shaivite Brahmin king of Bengal,and Shashanka,(the king of Gauda) had destroyed the Bodhi tree or ordered the mass destruction of all Buddhist images and monasteries in his kingdom. Shashanka tried “to have the image (of Lord Buddha at Bodhgaya) removed and replaced by one of Shiva”
4. Hindu rulers such as Shaivite Mihirakula, Mihirakula, Suddhanvan, King Sudhanvan of Ujjain (instigated by Kumarila). destroyed or damaged Buddhist shrines , viharas, stupas and monasteries, or killed Kotis or exterminated Buddhists.?
Destruction Buddhist shrines
1. In Nalanda, numerous Buddhist shrines were destroyed and converted into Hindu temples.
2. At Kushinara, where the Buddha had entered into Mahaparinirvana, the cremation stupa had been converted into a Hindu temple, and on top of it stood the temple of Rambhar Bhavani when
Cunningham discovered the site in 1860-61.
3.Caityas of Chezrala and Ter in Andhra Pradesh which are now Shiva and Vishnu temples respectively.
4. The temple of Madhava at Sal Kusa, opposite Gauhati in Asam, was once a sacred shrine of the Buddhists
5. The famous Jagannatha temple at Puri in Orissa was also originally a Buddhist shrine.
6. The Vishnupada temple at Gaya was also once a Buddhist shrine.
Source:
Buddhist World: How Adi Shankara destroyed Buddhism and founded ‘Hinduism’ in the 8th century |Buddhist World|Bapumraut|Blogspot
@@johnsont642
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@@johnsont642 well said
subaaaan This is similar to VD Savarkar ideology..
It is shameful we ask Muslims for their loyalty proof. ..
Gen. Zameeruddin Shah should have walked his 3,000 troops into Ahmedabad as soon as all of them had mobilised at the airport; at least they could have saved some innocent lives. I do not agree with his decision to wait for 1 full day for the private trucks to come. Only the sight of 3,000 soldiers would have scared the hell out of the bloody mobsters who would have just run away.
Please stop taking interviews. You must learn to take interviews first.
A great man 👍🙏 and what a pleasant surprise brother of nasiruddin shah
Why should I worry if its the minority or the majority dying. That notion of favouritism for a selected group must end. Context is necessary.. They can start something and then play victim card to turn it around
However much The Print tries, it will never be able to show an impartial view of any situation. The bias is quite obvious...
He has been an alumni of sjc nainital, of which i institue i had passed out. He is our great insipiration,an admirer and a shining hero of Indian Army.
Smart tough and articulate general. Salute you.
Very much inspired & impressed to hear the views of the esteemed Gen.Zameer Uddin Shah. A patriotic, true & secular Indian. Hats off to him.
Salute Sir. You do the country proud.
I trust this Man, a Great leader and Outstanding Officer. Since HE said it I will believe every word he said. It's very sad Govt. acted the way it did. Hope we as a Nation over come this religious bias. ..and about the interviewer, she displayed a bias in steering Sir towards an issue she wanted even if he digressed to give some background. Hope such media people show some decency ..we need to stop recless behavior. We need to stand together.
A huge respect for you sir and all our Army people.
When you make an illiterate person like Smriti Irani the HRD Minister she will never realise the sacrifice and services of an Ex-Amry man. Shame on this woman. Her image makes me puke at her!! Sorry for the person who served the country!!
U are wrong sir tasleema was hounded and living in exile since 20 years
What a man.. I wish I was half the man he is
He seems very honest in his opinion , not imposing his ideology. Thats the best part....giving unbiased opinions!
Was waiting!
the dignified manner in which the speech went by VC
Mam ,interview Mr. Pushpendra Kulashreshta also ,as he was born and brought up at AMU only.
They will never do that.... This general is Bullshit from same AMU where Hindus are subject to various brutalities which he will never speak
Two more interviews on anti- sikh riots nd emergency
@@suhrudpatel kaunsa maal phook ke bitha hai Bhai..😂
yep..they enforced dhimmi right..how much did you pay ??
Very true sir .
This guy is such a gentleman.
What an extraordinary man!
What he says I accept on face value being an upright armyman. Nationalists are proud of army. Not that others are not. So why look at his interview with a coloured vision of right wing politics. My worst doubt, God forbid, is that in the present political atmosphere, religion may not start aduterating the basic character of our glorious Indian Army.
Respect the way you spoke
The last bastion of secularism: unfortunately true. Hope the govt understands.
If you do something wrong. It's repercussions will follow. If something doesn't go inline with Muslim community they show no time in playing minority victim card. Sir in society give and take policy works. If 20 crores are minority then what about shiks and other communities which are small in numbers. First you do whatever you like when you feel the heat then play victim's card. Nice strategy dear.
It was nice to hear him.
Gujarat Police were never trained to tackle riots during Congress era i.e. 1947 to 2000 in spite of half a dozen riots that had taken place in the state….Why Modi will inflict injury of communal violence on his own govt which was gaining popularity due to restoration in quake devastated areas ...Godhara violence was a neatly executed satanic conspiracy of Ahmed Patel ( to unsettle the popular BJP govt of Modi and) become CM himself…..secondly big part of Police Strength was detailed to areas struck by devastating earthquake.....thirdly Army is a last option for any Administrator or CM or PM …..they look out for police, if it fails they try para-military, then comes the option of the Army......Modi had asked for Police help from 3 neighboring states , ruled by Congress Party, to tackle the riots , they refused....and this refusal was ill- intended....this refusal was meant for Modi's Gujarat to bleed more...so that Ahmed Patel gets chance to defeat Modi in election …….the Gujarati people were prudent , they chose only Modi, only Modi and only Modi !
Really missing you sir.......
Our beloved general and v.c of Aligarh Muslim university...........
Respected General..
Fine interview👍
Mc army me rahkar desh see gaddari.
Salute to you sir for your service to nation . I know there are people who would judge you based on this interview but God help those foolish creatures. It will take years to judge you and one should not do that until he is aware of all the situations you faced .
Salam sir ....but im very sad for gujrat riots
When such educated and knowledgeable people work under illiterate goons… it’s just disgusting.
Respect
Hats off to Lt-Gen Shah for his boldness and all respect to him ! Jyoti is of course, too abrupt and out there for a bite / byte ...... You call it TRP ! He should have been given more consideration ! ===== Matts'
Great men of Army
Respect to the General 👍👍
ThePrint is biased..thats all I have to say.
Ma'am thank you for bringing these stories to the younger generation. But can you please let the interviewee complete. Don't put words in their mouths. It's unbecoming of a journalist.
A man. For better or for worse. A man. So few now. Clear headed.
Respect to general shah!
Aur ek dum se election se pehle inko yaad aaya hai..
Bang on
Dear interviewer you could have shaped this interview in a better way . Mr Shah could have encouraged many souls from our society with his dutifulness but you tried your best to get some headlines but anyways I expect little from you guys .
army officer ne sahi bola
Lt. Genl. Shah what a distinguished service he had. Salute to him.. see the difference .. a top class gentleman being interviewd by a cheapo journalist.
Rightly said, the lady is in her full strength want something against modi and want to portray it as the worst riot of India, these type of journalists are a shame...
Madam learn how to take interviews...For 80% time you were asking him questions related to religion. The officer has served for about 40years in the army and had enough to share, but you started your normal Modi bashing and so on...
exactly
The reporter is totally biased.
Super.... u r right, she did try many times to get him to speak something wrong/ provocative... these journo’s really try to twist n turn facts for their benefit
Just imagine what would happen to the likes of Print n Jyoti Malhotra if India gets Islamised !
Sudeep LAVANIA, in case you did not realize this interview was to expose, once again, Modi's complicity in 2002 riots.......
Why was he quiet for so long.Where were the vehicles of the 3000 troops.Does the army move without vehicles.Even on trains and airforce planes they move with their vehicles.Is it conceivable that a 3000 troops will move without a single vehicle ? Probably did not get extension as VC for another tenure.
I think it is very naive that Lt General after 16 years writes a book in which he created controversy by saying he he waiting for CM or the civilian state govt to provide the transport hence his troops Wasted 24 hours at the airport. Next he will expect CM to provide cooked meals for the troops. Someone should make it clear to him army has own transportation arrangements and also food arrangements he should have spoken to Ahmedabad GCO to arrange transportation. His chain of command Was not used to request transportation, he did not contact defense minister George Fernandis in advance to arrange civilian transportation then he assumes CM Modi will send him transportation by intuition. He does not assume full responsibility for his troops transportation which caused the delay then he creates masala in his book for media. Everyone knows whenever army goes on operations they have transportation core to arrange transportation, then his counterpart in Ahmedabad should have been advised by hum to arrange transportation bwhixh he does not do but goes to CM home at 2am for dinner, expecting him to arrange everything for him. Shameful excuse by the experienced general. Over and above misleading media to create this controversy. Hence there should have been enquiry on General Zameeruddin for not doing routine steps as part of his duties, hence causing delay of 24 hours.
Maam, please let him talk. 😂😂😂
The main reason behind their frustration is thay the huge amount of foreign funds which they were getting from outside has been stopped by this government.
Please please don't interrupt while he speaks
Every time Malhotra cut Lt Gen Shah in the middle, I cursed her. Any person knowing the army well wouldn't dare to interfere while they're speaking. Poised veteran, Lt Gen Shah sir is an epitome for not just the Indian Muslims but each Indian who desires to be a contributing personnal.
Straight from heart
Manan Wani is a Sarkari Muslim. He studied in Central Government of India funded University AMU
army is central govt entity ,when did state started to provide transport??
When army moves the local army unit provide everything to incoming force,police force never interfere in army's affair
क्या 2002 मैं जो हुआ ठीक वेसा ही 2018 में नही हो रहा है बस फर्क इतना है कि 2002 में ये सिर्फ़ गुजरात तक सीमित था और आज 2018 में पूरे हिन्दुस्तान में हो रहा है जब भी हिन्दू हृदय सम्राट एक राज्य में थे और आज हिन्दू हृदय सम्राट पूरे भारत में राज कर रहा है ?क्या यही इसकी वजह है
Great interview. This is how we should comunicate. Clear and precisely
Respect for the chief
He is a True Indian Muslim
But he still has to prove as a True Indian.
He is the son of Bharat
@@thomasthomasphilp4393
He's son of bharat but still he has to prove as true indian
Not 24 hrs should be one week
Why was the Army brought in from Rajasthan? Aren't there any Army base/cantonment in Gujrat itself?
He is brother of famous bollywood actor Naseeruddin Shah........
Who the hell is smriti Irani btw, a third rated actress who later transformed to become a politician.. That's all.. The guts that lady showed to disrespect a decorated officer and a true patriot.. It was Gen. Shah's gentlemanship, that he responded the way he did
Minority is scared to death, ofcourse they should be, burning compartment full of passengers wouldn't be tolerated anywhere
This shameless lady always tried to give this a communal angle , the General didn't fall down to her level . Media is a threat to India !
Bhai stop being paranoid.. let us face the truth.. Muslims were murdered in Gujarat and let's agree that it was communal
@@sonuEEE and hindus were murdered in godhra
The lady had already framed how the episode should pan out
Not allowing a retired army officer to complete his lines, so that he doesn't go into other things and she keeps asking him about being muslim
But he with all his wisdom acts and talks like an army officer straight to the point.
This type of journalists on both sides are biased and are not doing any good to the society
58 Karsevaks brought to Ahmedabad? Lady there were not injured people brought for medical attention. They were charred deadbodies mostly of women and children.
When Congress came, India was considered to have a great past...
When BJP came, much the same...
When RSS comes, this India will be considered a Great Past! Voter sale burbak hain
Interviewer is frustrated not getting masala out of general 😬😬
Sir is an inspiration.
As AMU vice Chancellor he is not outrageous about Jinnah photo in AMU. How can India bear with such divider of nation in university on the cost of millions of inhumanity committed by Jinnah saitan.
General Sahab is brother of Mr Nassiru din Shah..if I'm not wrong.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏
After 4 SIT commission, SC judgement under former CBI, under Congress rule and at point of different NGO, Modi found not responsible.
Still Theprint find new way to tell story.
At least they may read 541 pages court judgement report.
nahh they want to crate perception of chaos
THAT IS EXACTLY what THE ALTERNARIVE HISTORY of India os,,, BEING WRITTEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BRUTAL MURDERERS who have been at it for the past 800 years, EVER SINCE THEY FIRST STEPPED ON THE LAND OF THIS BHARATVARSH... This is a military man, a decorated senior officer, who making this statement. WHAY OS HE NOT SAYING THIS TODAY?
These commission and investigation agencies for only poor and general people
Mr Raja was acquitted in 3G SC , but still some say that 3G is a scam for their convenience
what ever this bastard is saying is all rubbish......Had police force been biased the figure would have been much larger....The total casualties in 2002 riots was about 2300 out of which @ 1100 were Hindus and 1200 were muslims ...How could this happen if police force was Biased......This is totally bull shit...Dont fall prey to such false propoganda ....
In event of any such riots or calamaties it is routine for indian states to ask for help from neighbouring states ..gujarat Government had asked for help from rajasthan and MP Govt. ...Both the Congress ruled Governments denied the help....Now imagine 50,000 security personnels gaurding such a huge state of population of about 5 crores spread across an area of @ 200,000 sqkms...HAD POLICE BEEN BIASED THE FIGURE WOULD HAVE BEEN MUSH MORE ......IT COULD BE A STRAY INCIDENT ...BUT WHAT THIS KATUA BASTARD IS SAYING IS TOTALLY FALSE ...IT IS SHAME ON YOU THAT YOU ARE BELIEVING WHAT BULL SHIT HE IS DELIVERING
Well done modiji......speak about burning people in the train....
Ye wahi Aunty hai jisse sadhguru ne baba Ramdev wale question pe karara jawab Diya tha or debate dono neighbouring states ke police Na bhejne per Bhi Hona chahiye
This guy himself claims that he never faced any discrimination in the Indian army but still he chooses to become VC of minority institution called Aligarh Muslim University?
His agenda is the same as the rest of his community! No amount of education, training, etc. is going to help!
What about kashmiri
Should use gun instead pallet gun
Smirit Irani... should have shown more respect. She could have disagreed with him in good faith but you don't direspect an army general like that. India is standing only because of men and women like him.
When the army provides emergency services during floods earthquake landslides riots in other parts of India why not in Gujarat.? The army has become corrupt with corruption at the highest level. And pandering to the whims of political leaders in return for favours is nothing new. After all all the soldiers of the INA troops who were truly patriotic were disbanded while those working for the British were retained by the nehru government. Wonder why!?
Crook anchor and honest general...
Jyoti.. you failed to elicit response suited to your prejudices. One thing became certain that military was called immediatly. As far as logistic support was concerned, it happens even in peace time. Govt. Officials are known for it. Poor Jyoti..
I want to comment on the General waiting for 24 hours for transport.
Army when moves for operations will have alternate plans to meet unforeseen situations .
The civil administration had failed and the army had been called to meet the situation. Why did he expect the civil administration to help with transport.He should have thought of alternate resource.
What was the size of the Ahemadabad city say 40 km by 40 km.. He could have asked the forces to walk and fan out in to the city.
If they walked the troops would have covered the city within a maximum of 6 hours.
He could have used the local military’s help to navigate and to provide few essential vehicles instead of waiting for 24 hours.
It is unbelievable how the General is blaming the civil administration for their failure when they had already owned up and called the army for help.
I am a veteran from the armed forces.
The jawans were not local Gujaratis, hence they did not have any idea where to go in the city.. Secondly no prior information about the situation in Ahmedabad and about the hotspots of
riots... Going by your advice means sending men to an urban forest with predators hiding in buildings and homes...
Hello Sudeep LAVANIA
I did not suggest to move against hardened enemy army.
It is our own people/ mob. You fire one , the mob will run away as you had seen in the instant case.
My aim is amplify the army should have thought of alternate options. There is a provision for hiring transport. That could have been done with local army units. Our soldiers/ units are very adaptable and given a direction they would have achieved it.
They waited because .. they were not told that the vehicles will come next day. The civil adminiatration kept them waiting .. stating that the vehicles are on the way .
Navanitha Krishnan, From what you have said it is 100% clear that you are not a veteran from the armed forces........actually you sound more like a veteran of the Tadhipaar Takla's IT cell........lol
Claiming to b veteran! don't mock our army you ahole.
A very badly conducted interview. General Shah is an absolute gentleman, erudite and strong. The treatment meted out to him by the MHRD reflects so badly. Although Zoom as he is called went there for a task and he did it well despite the delays by state administrators, I still always have this question, "who started the riots, was the burning of the karsevaks the start of the riots and why is it not spoken about by most journos (Zoom is not a part of this, he adddresses his task and he is right). "Two wrongs do not make a right" is the statement pushed by the pacifiers but I say that "two wrongs may not make a right, however it does help sending out the message to dissuade the aggressors from instigating another wrong. So, Never let a wrong go unpunished. Strike and strike hard, but make sure you are not the aggressor.
I Saw 1st 15 minutes so far. The interview is supposed to be about the book that he has written but the interviewer is interested only in what happened in 2002. This is clearly biased journalism. In fact this is not journalism at all. She clearly has an agenda.
What's with the lady it's like she is hovering around Gujrat and literally trying to make a secular Army Officer to say something provocative and stupid. She is not a generalist she is the instigator.
Ye tu freedom of speech ke kilaf baat kar Raha hai iski bit sun rahe ho
Shekhar Gupta drinks Pappu Mutraa.
Crisp and clear Journalism.. Thank you Ms. Jyothi Malhotra and Thank you General Shah!
dahhhh.....For 80% time you were asking him questions related to religion. The officer has served for about 40 years in the army and had enough to share, but you started your normal Modi bashing and so on...
This lady is not very bright. She does not allow the General to speak.