I've seen a lot of lists run 2 ace, so that might be the right answer compared to 1. If u like 3 then totally go for it, the other lillymons aren't that good. I just don't like too much overflow in the deck.
@@KaytimeTCG The only rosemon list that I have seen that topped in JP bt 15 format only ran one Lily Ace so you might be fine to keep it as a one of. The issue with Ace digimon is that counter timing happens after the opponent triggers their when attacking effects, which means that counter timing happens after a good 80% of this game's removal triggers. Considering the low dp that a lot of green's lv 4s have means that their probably the easiest for any deck to get rid of before we can blast digivolve into lilymon. That means Lilymon is only ever gonna really hit the board on our turn. in my initial play testing I've actually had a hard time having anything to suspend by the time I reach Rosemon which has made it nearly impossible to use Rosemon's unsuspend effect or trigger ex 1 lilymon's inherit. Based on that, I'd say lily Ace's suspend effect may not even be necessary the majority of the time. So, yeah, I think you're fine to test with one lily Ace and then go from there. I really like lily ace and was super hyped for the card, but so far in my playtesting it's been super underwhelming, sadly.
@@phoenixwright784 100% agree with all of this. Blast evo into lily ace felt much easier in bloomlord, cos as u said if we're ending on a lvl 4 it's either obvious or it is removed before blast timing. It's a shame cos the effect is still nice, but overflow is juat a downside if digivolving regularly.
@KaytimeTCG a couple other things I'd like to note: I think our baby triggers when our tamers suspend themselves to trigger their effects. At least according to what I saw on reddit it does, so if that's the case our baby is actually pretty easy to trigger. I run 2 cool boy and between cool boy, bt 14 mimi, and all the extra drawing we do, I don't think the babies that draw when something is suspended is necessary at all. In fact, I've personally found the deck to be susceptible to decking itself out. Hidden potential wasn't ran in the one list that I saw, so it may not be necessary in this deck. Our digivolutions are generally so cheap that hidden potential probably isn't doing us a whole lot. I think bt 13 rosemon can suspend stuff on the opponent's turn so it's probably better than bt 14 rosemon. I kinda think rosemon burst has a place in the deck. The list I saw ran 3 burst, 2 rose x. I kinda wonder if these numbers should be flipped, but burst suspending and stunning the board eccentially for free + burning our opponent's security is really nice in the deck. Rose x is pure control while burst offers both control and aggression.
@@phoenixwright784 wait tanemon works when our tamers are suspended too!? Wow that's way better, I definitely need to check that. What did u take out for 2 cool boy, I'm guessing mem boost and hpd? Oh bt13 and bt14 rosemons both have pros and cons, like u said bt13 is better control, bt14 is better aggressively. So I like bt14 Rose with rosemon x, but if ur running less x than more bt13 rose makes sense. None of them are outright better than the other. Burst mode is still really strong, but without yoshino tamer idk if it's worth it/quartz is easier to use (and I prefer mimi to get more bodies out). But like in the vid, going burst mode route is just as viable in a different way.
Thanks, glad u liked it! I think a cool boy or two would be strong choice to add, just unsure what I'd take out for it since deck space is tight. Maybe mem boost and something else.
Rosemon burst mode is insane in this deck
I have to disagree about the lillymon ace. I feel like 3 minimum are required. The effect to suspend on play or digivolve is crucial.
I've seen a lot of lists run 2 ace, so that might be the right answer compared to 1. If u like 3 then totally go for it, the other lillymons aren't that good. I just don't like too much overflow in the deck.
@@KaytimeTCG The only rosemon list that I have seen that topped in JP bt 15 format only ran one Lily Ace so you might be fine to keep it as a one of. The issue with Ace digimon is that counter timing happens after the opponent triggers their when attacking effects, which means that counter timing happens after a good 80% of this game's removal triggers. Considering the low dp that a lot of green's lv 4s have means that their probably the easiest for any deck to get rid of before we can blast digivolve into lilymon. That means Lilymon is only ever gonna really hit the board on our turn. in my initial play testing I've actually had a hard time having anything to suspend by the time I reach Rosemon which has made it nearly impossible to use Rosemon's unsuspend effect or trigger ex 1 lilymon's inherit. Based on that, I'd say lily Ace's suspend effect may not even be necessary the majority of the time.
So, yeah, I think you're fine to test with one lily Ace and then go from there. I really like lily ace and was super hyped for the card, but so far in my playtesting it's been super underwhelming, sadly.
@@phoenixwright784 100% agree with all of this. Blast evo into lily ace felt much easier in bloomlord, cos as u said if we're ending on a lvl 4 it's either obvious or it is removed before blast timing. It's a shame cos the effect is still nice, but overflow is juat a downside if digivolving regularly.
@KaytimeTCG a couple other things I'd like to note:
I think our baby triggers when our tamers suspend themselves to trigger their effects. At least according to what I saw on reddit it does, so if that's the case our baby is actually pretty easy to trigger.
I run 2 cool boy and between cool boy, bt 14 mimi, and all the extra drawing we do, I don't think the babies that draw when something is suspended is necessary at all. In fact, I've personally found the deck to be susceptible to decking itself out.
Hidden potential wasn't ran in the one list that I saw, so it may not be necessary in this deck. Our digivolutions are generally so cheap that hidden potential probably isn't doing us a whole lot.
I think bt 13 rosemon can suspend stuff on the opponent's turn so it's probably better than bt 14 rosemon.
I kinda think rosemon burst has a place in the deck. The list I saw ran 3 burst, 2 rose x. I kinda wonder if these numbers should be flipped, but burst suspending and stunning the board eccentially for free + burning our opponent's security is really nice in the deck. Rose x is pure control while burst offers both control and aggression.
@@phoenixwright784 wait tanemon works when our tamers are suspended too!? Wow that's way better, I definitely need to check that. What did u take out for 2 cool boy, I'm guessing mem boost and hpd? Oh bt13 and bt14 rosemons both have pros and cons, like u said bt13 is better control, bt14 is better aggressively. So I like bt14 Rose with rosemon x, but if ur running less x than more bt13 rose makes sense. None of them are outright better than the other. Burst mode is still really strong, but without yoshino tamer idk if it's worth it/quartz is easier to use (and I prefer mimi to get more bodies out). But like in the vid, going burst mode route is just as viable in a different way.
Great list. Feel like cool boy might a good inclusion if you own any.
Thanks, glad u liked it! I think a cool boy or two would be strong choice to add, just unsure what I'd take out for it since deck space is tight. Maybe mem boost and something else.
buena receta :3 si tienes discord hay dices para jugar.