Crusade is actually extremely smooth and has an actually decent turnaround animation for sonic's dash animation. One consistent thing that bugs me about Smash Flash 2 is how choppy and ugly the sprites are for certain attacks. There's almost no transition between sonic dashing and running. He just snaps to his dash animation immediately. Crusade has Smash Flash 2 beat cleanly in the character animation and sprite design honestly. Smash Flash 2 has this very annoying tendency to try to match the official smash games in looks and feel. Makes for ugly sprites with wayyy too little animation frames, and movesets that feel outdated by the time the next update rolls out.
I agree. When it comes to most of the cast for SSF2 they take it when it comes to the moveset. But then the animation is what bugs me. SSBC on the other hand is a little weird when it comes to the movesets of most of the characters but they do the animations justice and Sonic and Goku feel like Sonic and Goku while you use them.
@@dragnjames2190Bro I understand your point, but saying that the sprites are ugly is simply stupid, almost all of the ssf2 sprites are light years superior to ssbc and I understand your point and the fact that ssbc is improving their sprites like sonic's, the sonic from ssbc is better, but understand that it is more current than that of ssf2, while that ssf2 was giving it a scrub since the beta and from before considering the transformations, unfortunately as you say ssf2 only seeks to create a playable ssb for pc, but many Of the "original" or "new" characters you have beautiful sprites with very good or at least an enjoyable move set
Crazy how both go for a direct adaptation of the 3d model in a pixel art form, and how you can see how much smoother the crusade sprite are, i feel like the Sf2 sprites try too hard to look like ult even when it doesnt work that well. I must say, i didnt know anything about crusade's sonic and im impressed, the original moves look really cool too
El de Crusade se le dio su resprite que bien le queda, pero porqué se oye algo mal? Crusade Sonic got his resprite and works well, but the sounds... They sound a little off
Bro, the idea of SSF2 is precisely to create a Flash version of Super Smash Bros. original. Crusede came long after SSF2, which also has this same idea, however, they try to change it in some aspects so as not to be the same as SSF2.
@@hyper1808 they started with original ideas bruh, even the smash finals were fun and original, but they suddenly started to be just a copy, I have all smash bros games and I enjoyed smash flash because it was kinda different, it had its values but now what's the point in playing ssf2 when I can play the real deal? Don't get me wrong, it is kinda unique but previously it was better, look at megaman, he had an original and pretty good moveset, but they threw that away just so it could be more like the original.
@@Leoram. Wrong, Mario since the first version, for example, is a copy of Melee, and no one has ever complained about that. Sonic was inspired by Brawl and now it's a mix between SSB4 and PM. In Crusede for example, Snake, Marth, Fox, Falco are copies of the original game, so no one will play because of that? Of course. There are some characters that are very broad like Sonic and Megaman that the creators like to bring different ideas to, but the proposal remains the same as the two fangames, an accessible Smash Bros Pixel. If it were because of original ideas, why don't the same players who play Smash Bros play Brawlhalla for example? It's simple, the PROPOSAL IS DIFFERENT. I agree with you that, for example, Finals Smashers were much better, but I believe that since that time they wanted to do the same as the original game, but maybe it was because they didn't have much knowledge of programming, I don't know. And yes, I agree that Crusede's Sonic is much better than SSF2's, much bolder and better than the original, which hasn't had a new move for years. But each one has its own charm and audience.
@@Leoram.most characters in their aren’t even apart of smash, and the ones that are share almost identical movesets, which after seeing this video, I can say that Sonic’s moveset in SSF2 is still somewhat different from Brawl, because SSF2 came out before Ultimate, but if it’s so much of a problem to you just create your own game
@@TotallyTally It won't elaborate, so I'll elaborate for it. Well, elaborate on how it's wrong, but still. One good example is the Up Air. Both SSBU and SSF2 display Sonic turning his body upwards and slamming his feet together, with two arcing yellow trails. Now, it _could_ be argued that SSF2 is """tracing""", but the argument is comparable to an AI generated tweet at best. The movements are almost identical, yes, but if it were """tracing""", the devs would have just taken frames of the actual SSBU animations, pixelated them, slapped them in and called it a day. SSBC takes a slightly different approach, having Sonic twist in mid-air as his feet join together as he spins, with white twirling wind trails to accommodate that. With SSBC, it's blatant that they aren't tracing since the movements are entirely different. People can tell me "oOo ur mAD" all they want. I couldn't give less of a shit. I'll say what I want, when I want, however I want it.
Crusade is actually extremely smooth and has an actually decent turnaround animation for sonic's dash animation.
One consistent thing that bugs me about Smash Flash 2 is how choppy and ugly the sprites are for certain attacks. There's almost no transition between sonic dashing and running. He just snaps to his dash animation immediately.
Crusade has Smash Flash 2 beat cleanly in the character animation and sprite design honestly.
Smash Flash 2 has this very annoying tendency to try to match the official smash games in looks and feel. Makes for ugly sprites with wayyy too little animation frames, and movesets that feel outdated by the time the next update rolls out.
No
@@MissJayceline Yes
I agree. When it comes to most of the cast for SSF2 they take it when it comes to the moveset. But then the animation is what bugs me. SSBC on the other hand is a little weird when it comes to the movesets of most of the characters but they do the animations justice and Sonic and Goku feel like Sonic and Goku while you use them.
@@dragnjames2190Bro I understand your point, but saying that the sprites are ugly is simply stupid, almost all of the ssf2 sprites are light years superior to ssbc and I understand your point and the fact that ssbc is improving their sprites like sonic's, the sonic from ssbc is better, but understand that it is more current than that of ssf2, while that ssf2 was giving it a scrub since the beta and from before considering the transformations, unfortunately as you say ssf2 only seeks to create a playable ssb for pc, but many Of the "original" or "new" characters you have beautiful sprites with very good or at least an enjoyable move set
Crusade Sonic is the best thing i've Seen.
Admito que me gusta mucho el estilizado que le dieron en Crusade, se ve muy cool.
Se me hace más característico a sus juegos.
Primera vez que un Sprite de crusade le gana al de SSF2
Crazy how both go for a direct adaptation of the 3d model in a pixel art form, and how you can see how much smoother the crusade sprite are, i feel like the Sf2 sprites try too hard to look like ult even when it doesnt work that well. I must say, i didnt know anything about crusade's sonic and im impressed, the original moves look really cool too
El de Crusade se le dio su resprite que bien le queda, pero porqué se oye algo mal?
Crusade Sonic got his resprite and works well, but the sounds... They sound a little off
Ni idea, pero cuando yo he jugado a Crusade no se escucha tan mal. Debe ser algun error de edicion
Me impresiona que siendo un vídeo sobre smash crusade, llegara tan rápido a las 20k de vistas
Crusade FTW!
I hate how SSF2 tries to be like the official games by just copying the moveset from the official games, I miss when they had orionality.
Bro, the idea of SSF2 is precisely to create a Flash version of Super Smash Bros. original. Crusede came long after SSF2, which also has this same idea, however, they try to change it in some aspects so as not to be the same as SSF2.
@@hyper1808 they started with original ideas bruh, even the smash finals were fun and original, but they suddenly started to be just a copy, I have all smash bros games and I enjoyed smash flash because it was kinda different, it had its values but now what's the point in playing ssf2 when I can play the real deal? Don't get me wrong, it is kinda unique but previously it was better, look at megaman, he had an original and pretty good moveset, but they threw that away just so it could be more like the original.
@@Leoram. Wrong, Mario since the first version, for example, is a copy of Melee, and no one has ever complained about that.
Sonic was inspired by Brawl and now it's a mix between SSB4 and PM.
In Crusede for example, Snake, Marth, Fox, Falco are copies of the original game, so no one will play because of that?
Of course.
There are some characters that are very broad like Sonic and Megaman that the creators like to bring different ideas to, but the proposal remains the same as the two fangames, an accessible Smash Bros Pixel.
If it were because of original ideas, why don't the same players who play Smash Bros play Brawlhalla for example?
It's simple, the PROPOSAL IS DIFFERENT.
I agree with you that, for example, Finals Smashers were much better, but I believe that since that time they wanted to do the same as the original game, but maybe it was because they didn't have much knowledge of programming, I don't know.
And yes, I agree that Crusede's Sonic is much better than SSF2's, much bolder and better than the original, which hasn't had a new move for years.
But each one has its own charm and audience.
@@Leoram.most characters in their aren’t even apart of smash, and the ones that are share almost identical movesets, which after seeing this video, I can say that Sonic’s moveset in SSF2 is still somewhat different from Brawl, because SSF2 came out before Ultimate, but if it’s so much of a problem to you just create your own game
@@natebennett7557 "if it's so much of a problem to you just create your own game" ☝️🤓
Sonic becomes less expressive as time goes on :,v
CRUSADE>>>>>>
Wow ultimates sonic has no personality
You’re just blind
@@TreadywayYT compare brawl sonic to ssbu sonic
Quiero jugar!
Sonicspid
Wow, how is the comment section of this video this bad? Half of it is full of negativity
How Does Sonic Get Choked Even Though He Has No Neck?
He actually does have a neck, just a very tiny one. In the Sonic CD into you can see it when he lifts his head up to sneeze
lowkey embarrassing how both versions can't even have their spritework and insist on tracing shit lol
Could you please elaborate
@@TotallyTally It won't elaborate, so I'll elaborate for it. Well, elaborate on how it's wrong, but still.
One good example is the Up Air. Both SSBU and SSF2 display Sonic turning his body upwards and slamming his feet together, with two arcing yellow trails. Now, it _could_ be argued that SSF2 is """tracing""", but the argument is comparable to an AI generated tweet at best. The movements are almost identical, yes, but if it were """tracing""", the devs would have just taken frames of the actual SSBU animations, pixelated them, slapped them in and called it a day. SSBC takes a slightly different approach, having Sonic twist in mid-air as his feet join together as he spins, with white twirling wind trails to accommodate that. With SSBC, it's blatant that they aren't tracing since the movements are entirely different.
People can tell me "oOo ur mAD" all they want. I couldn't give less of a shit. I'll say what I want, when I want, however I want it.
@@axain7784 I agree with your statement, 'cause that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the elaboration on what this guy meant, lol.