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  • @howiseeit5326
    @howiseeit5326 Před 5 měsíci +135

    Nnganou is a tougher fight than wilder and aj is belt free an can fight who he wants. Who's complaining about this?

    • @marshallbecause3769
      @marshallbecause3769 Před 5 měsíci +5

      I Agree I think Ngannou's a tougher fight then Wilder and Ngannou has showed he's got more then just a punchers chance with his counter punching tactics I hope he goes in there to knock him out though I think that would work better vs AJ

    • @Tommy-pz2yc
      @Tommy-pz2yc Před 5 měsíci +13

      Boxing fans should be complaining. Aj should be fighting hgrovic / zhang / sanchez. You're only wanting this fight now because Ngannou looked good against fury. That's it.

    • @marshallbecause3769
      @marshallbecause3769 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@Tommy-pz2yc AJ really struggled against Ruiz got flattened in the first and got on his bike the second and Ngannou's a lot more mobile then Ruiz I think this is a great fight

    • @jackkeane6
      @jackkeane6 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Tommy-pz2yc2 weeks ago all Joshua wanted was to become world champion again now hes fighting someone 0-1

    • @recodegamesstudio
      @recodegamesstudio Před 5 měsíci +10

      ​@@Tommy-pz2yc Yeah, that's how it works, genius. A fighter looked good against the supposed #1 heavyweight so we'd love to see how he does against AJ, to see if it was fluke or if Luke Fury is just an overrated dosser.

  • @isaacjacobs3785
    @isaacjacobs3785 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Here we go again. Let's push a the ant-AJ narrative

    • @_RS3___
      @_RS3___ Před 5 měsíci

      No one likes AJ after his BLM bullshit. Boycott white owned businesses yet he works for a white man 🤣🤣🤣 first coach was a white man. Manager is a white man.

  • @Paul-uk2vc
    @Paul-uk2vc Před 5 měsíci +34

    If Parker was always going to win why go through all the work of agreeing a fight with wilder beforehand 😂

    • @michaelthompson6885
      @michaelthompson6885 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Fair point.

    • @HisExcellencyB
      @HisExcellencyB Před 5 měsíci

      The plan was always to stitch up Wilder

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci +6

      Because you still have to fight. If fighters didn’t fight because everybody already knows that they’re going to win then they’d just say that they don’t want to waste their time agreeing to the fight because it’s a foregone conclusion. Also they can’t earn their money without fighting. You have to actually compete in order to earn your money. You don’t get paid for doing nothing.

    • @DavidGoldX
      @DavidGoldX Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@HisExcellencyBStitch up Wilder by putting him in a fight with a guy AJ dusted off 5 years ago? 🤣

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci

      @@DavidGoldXAJ won the fight against Parker & made it look comfortable but the referee greatly hindered Parker & also hindered AJ but to a lesser degree. He separated them quickly many times when Parker got close when it was unnecessary.

  • @reece940
    @reece940 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Simon never lets anyone who knows more than him speak 😂

    • @yogi2983
      @yogi2983 Před 5 měsíci +2

      he's so full of himself. self appointed authority on all things LOL fools love the sound of their own voice

    • @kevinmunday6263
      @kevinmunday6263 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I Think He is right tho

  • @DrEngrCEng
    @DrEngrCEng Před 5 měsíci +29

    When Fury & Wilder had belts, they fought journeymen after journeymen after journeymen and dulled out the HW division, whilst AJ was fighting top opponents after top opponents & he was still getting criticised for his “performance” …
    …..
    If AJ now decides to have a few light touch fights along the way, I have no problem with it ….

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci +5

      I agree that AJ has fought high level opposition much more consistently than Fury & Wilder. His record is unquestionably much better than those of Fury & Wilder.

    • @3macnooz
      @3macnooz Před 5 měsíci +5

      Name the top opponents.

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@3macnoozWhyte; Parker; Povetkin; Ruiz & Usyk.

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci

      @@3macnoozAlso: Klitschko; Takam & Pulev, but then ‘they were old’ being aged 41 ( Klitschko ), 37 ( I think, Takam ) & 39.

    • @3macnooz
      @3macnooz Před 5 měsíci +3

      @Pringlelover Ruiz was, is still and will forever be a nobody who beat AJ. Lie to yourself but you had never heard of him before that fight. The only reason he fought Usyk was because AJ and Herne was hoodwinked by the Uysk Chisora fight and thought it was an easy night. The other you have named are with below elite level or shared a ring with Fury. Have another swing, maybe mention Chares Martin or Breazle this time 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @michaelmurray7220
    @michaelmurray7220 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I am so excited for this fight. I’m much more of a boxing fan so I want AJ to win and I think he will, but I wouldn’t be disappointed if Ngannou won. The guy is a specimen and his story is inspirational. May the best man win.

  • @smartpower6963
    @smartpower6963 Před 5 měsíci +21

    Simon states the obvious. AJ is fighting Ngannou because the Saudis want it, they are willing to pay big money and Fury didn't look good fighting him. However Fury should have beaten Ngannou easily, whether he took it seriously or not, unless Ngannou is much better than he is given credit for. He will also have improved significantly after his first experience in boxing, in terms of questions of stamina, punch resistance and tactical awareness, This fight will answer the question of how good he is so is perfect for everyone except snobs like Simon who often get it wrong.

    • @boxinggloves1699
      @boxinggloves1699 Před 5 měsíci

      AJ could beat Ngannou with ease, but Fury might beat Usyk with ease. What happens then? Fury is unpredictable.

    • @smartpower6963
      @smartpower6963 Před 5 měsíci

      AJ vs Fury is what happens then and it's a bigger fight than ever

    • @boxinggloves1699
      @boxinggloves1699 Před 5 měsíci

      I suppose so, but the winner of Usyk or Fury has the right to retire to be honest. ​@@smartpower6963

    • @jak3brap10
      @jak3brap10 Před 5 měsíci

      Francis came off one of the worst surgery’s you can have as an athlete for your legs too.

    • @jak3brap10
      @jak3brap10 Před 5 měsíci

      @@boxinggloves1699AJ will get embarrassed.

  • @MrSleeplessnights
    @MrSleeplessnights Před 5 měsíci +25

    Simon is still covering for Fury. The man himself told you he was fully prepared. But Simon insists that he knows more about Fury than Fury. Go figure

    • @lukesablade
      @lukesablade Před 5 měsíci +2

      Him and Adam singing from the same him sheet.

    • @owendavis9254
      @owendavis9254 Před 5 měsíci +2

      So now you believe Fury? Lol Martin bakole who was in camp Came out and said it was a joke. Is he lying?

    • @nicksaveka5078
      @nicksaveka5078 Před 5 měsíci

      I know he sounds like a right twat

    • @yogi2983
      @yogi2983 Před 5 měsíci

      such a dumbass..

    • @Peepsarestrange
      @Peepsarestrange Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@owendavis9254they called fury a liar for years and now it fits their narrative he's a Saint and would never lie.
      This is why I pay no attention to fanboys and just enjoy the boxing without tbe idolatry.

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 Před 5 měsíci +31

    Francis was also guilty of not trying to finish Fury immediately after he dropped him.

    • @paintballing489
      @paintballing489 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Saving his gas tank seems like a reasonably wise decision considering it was only round 3.

    • @johnve8327
      @johnve8327 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He was blowing a bit….

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon Před 5 měsíci +9

      You can put that down to Ngannou's inexperience in boxing, being his debut appearance

    • @recodegamesstudio
      @recodegamesstudio Před 5 měsíci +2

      Luke fury on his bike for the rest of the fight only throwing lazy jabs. No desire to try and win convincingly (not a pathetic split decision)

    • @awbox1
      @awbox1 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@paintballing489a wise decision at the time, looking back now it was a bad dexision because he went on to lose. He shoyld have emptied the tank and gone for it. A loss on points and a KO loss might be different in how they hurt your ego but theyre both losses.

  • @MLC95
    @MLC95 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Simon the same Simon that was not gonna watch fury nganou but happen to be somewhere where it was on 😂

  • @jackmichie5304
    @jackmichie5304 Před 5 měsíci

    This was such an excellent discussion

  • @richjackson8349
    @richjackson8349 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Boxing vs MMA reminds me very much of the Rugby Union vs Rugby League match ups when Union first went professional.
    League (Wigan) adapted much better to Union, than Union (Bath) adapted to League.
    My point being it’s viable for an elite MMA guy to take in a boxer, than for a boxer to try MMA.

  • @josephhunter1627
    @josephhunter1627 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Something very strange going on with fury I reckon no undercard announcment and very little promotion 4 weeks ur from the fight

    • @luca99191
      @luca99191 Před 5 měsíci

      Biggest pay day he’ll probably ever get it will happen

    • @BlackWolf-el3gu
      @BlackWolf-el3gu Před 5 měsíci

      Little promotion cause what’s to say one guy can’t even speak English

    • @vaultmarketplaceltd1901
      @vaultmarketplaceltd1901 Před 5 měsíci

      in the last 10 years you've never see a decent fury undercard all the money is being pumped into the undisputed factual.. its a little bit different on matchroom shows as usually being on say an AJ card of the past affords you exposure beyond wealth or the chance to make more monet if you do well.. but generally the undercards for fury shows are poor probably be issac lowe and nathan gorman

    • @Lu149
      @Lu149 Před 5 měsíci

      Frank doesn’t have any fighters, he needs Matchroom fighters. Apparently Joe Cordina will feature

  • @rayabahmed1624
    @rayabahmed1624 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Simon after the wallin fight barely gave any praise to AJ and the reasons were that he didn’t see AJ come through adversity. By that reasoning, he should look forward to this fight because everyone knows Ngannou comes to fight and has freakish power.

  • @larrysellers7891
    @larrysellers7891 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Turned it off when Simon started blathering.

  • @realityosei3689
    @realityosei3689 Před 5 měsíci +4

    what annoys me the most is Aj has to fight everybody zhang parker even silly...dubois wilder this that men what about other top hw why aint we demanding they fight these opponents as well ??

  • @leepetty4443
    @leepetty4443 Před 5 měsíci +15

    It’s funny how many people said I don’t see AJ fighting Wally and said they wanted to see him in big fights.
    Then AJ demolishes him, emphatically, and he’s fighting Fury’s leftovers. Boxing fans are so fickle.

    • @peopletalkuttergarbage
      @peopletalkuttergarbage Před 5 měsíci +1

      Because not one person said they couldn't see him fighting Wallin....making up lies to give yourself a reason to make a comment is fckin ridiculous!!

    • @leepetty4443
      @leepetty4443 Před 5 měsíci

      @@peopletalkuttergarbage I seen that on a large number of threads where AJ was criticised for his performance against Wally.
      And I’m making up about AJ fighting Fury’s leftovers? It’s the most overused comment on the internet. Even hear Klitchco being called Fury’s leftovers despite Fury being AWOL. To be precise, before the fight most were saying AJ had a big test ahead and no one seen that Wilder was the one who was in fact going to be tested.

    • @counterfeitclone
      @counterfeitclone Před 5 měsíci +1

      They not boxing fans that's why. Boxing fans look at boxing, match ups and fighters objectively and without strong emotional biases, unlike the fangirls. Fangirls that dont think logically about the sport or the fighters, just emotional tribalism. And these type of "fans" You can't have a reasonable conversation with.

    • @JamesSmith-ds2hi
      @JamesSmith-ds2hi Před 5 měsíci +1

      Leftovers? Fury got beat by him 😆

    • @leepetty4443
      @leepetty4443 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@counterfeitclone You’re not wrong there. All on emotion.

  • @joewhite22
    @joewhite22 Před 5 měsíci +6

    If AJ goes in there and destroys Ngannou it's a bigger victory for boxing than for AJ himself. Boxing can't let some novice enter into the sport and run the top guys ragged, it needs for one of the top guys to run him ragged. In a way AJ is trying to fix the problem that Fury created. The only thing is, AJ won't receive that much credit for it because people will then say Ngannou was never that great to begin with and Fury made him look good.

    • @crashthecat
      @crashthecat Před 5 měsíci

      AJ gets a solid fight narrative that after otto and Francis he cleaned up all Furys mess

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před 5 měsíci

      @@crashthecat I suspect that's one reason they're doing it. I think the Day of Reckoning card already did a good enough job of making Fury look poorer and AJ look better though. Only way we're ever going to truly prove one is better than the other is through a fight.

    • @jackkeane6
      @jackkeane6 Před 5 měsíci

      @@crashthecatfury beat them both first 😂😂😂

    • @spaghettilegs9882
      @spaghettilegs9882 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@jackkeane6 and struggled massively..

    • @crashthecat
      @crashthecat Před 5 měsíci

      @@joewhite22 true but I think it's reasonable to assume we may never see it and AJ wants tysons legacy from under him and this is the way to do it. Usyk losses would seal it

  • @craiggillies4462
    @craiggillies4462 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Wee Eddie never stopped telling us how much of a joke fight it was when Fury did it. Now its AJ it'll be a real tough fight and great for boxing.

  • @cm9851
    @cm9851 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Ngannou is dangerous know he knows that he can’t rely on scorecards. Think this is a mistake for AJ tbh

  • @normskyyanwell4872
    @normskyyanwell4872 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Simon ranting as if making money is a problem in sport. This fight has much more credibility than fury Vs ngannou did. And if wilder fights Zhang on undercard that would be excellent

  • @heffnerhefz5905
    @heffnerhefz5905 Před 5 měsíci

    @5:59 facts

  • @bluesky8869
    @bluesky8869 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Simon, stop being such a man fan, your boy got found out, quit making up excuses for him and just accept it. You believed the hype but the reality is he was always overrated. His best win to date is still Deontay Wilder who just got absolutely battered and beat up by Joe Parker.

  • @osmanraza5951
    @osmanraza5951 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Well done MJ.. you really owned Simon! Great debate and nice to see you doing well . Oz ( your old work mate)

  • @JD-xn4ls
    @JD-xn4ls Před 5 měsíci

    I actually am excited for this fight

  • @Nemoticon
    @Nemoticon Před 5 měsíci +3

    AJ isnt a current champion and has been bery active... he can fight who he likes. Fury is a champ and fought a debut fighter when he should have been defending. THATS the difference.

  • @concernedcitizen5053
    @concernedcitizen5053 Před 5 měsíci +5

    It was a freak show initially, but Ngannou went toe to toe with an elite boxer, arguably the best in his division, if not a generation and lost by the slimmest margins and for AJ this is as good as any fight available for him, with the IBF tied up, Wilder's shock defeat against Parker and Fury fighting Usyk for the undisputed. Michael spoke a lot of sense in this interview. However I think Ngannou is perfectly capable of scoring a knockout against AJ. I don't believe the Fury camp underestimated him.

  • @boxingmmachat3125
    @boxingmmachat3125 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think this is a huge risk for aj he doesn't have a chin or powers of recovery like fury he is also susceptible to get caught with hooks and nganu throws fast heavy counter shots

    • @asif_rocky
      @asif_rocky Před 5 měsíci

      Aj hasn't got a chin you must be having a laugh. Yes ruiz caught him but he got up never was knocked out. On the other hand fury has been dropped alot more times and sometimes given extra time to recover. You are an absolute casual

  • @recodegamesstudio
    @recodegamesstudio Před 5 měsíci +3

    Yeah, that's how it works, genius. A fighter looked good against the supposed #1 heavyweight so we'd love to see how he does against AJ, to see if it was fluke or if Luke Fury is just an overrated dosser.

  • @moiLawUk
    @moiLawUk Před 5 měsíci +2

    Totally different now- the public want to see this fight as alot of the public think fury lost. Whether fury didn't prepare or not and btw fury did prepare.boxers normally make excuses and say they didn't prepare after a loss or poor performance.fury and his camp have said they did prepare. Fury just wasn't able to hold onto this monster - so his plan went through the window

    • @billdoor3140
      @billdoor3140 Před 5 měsíci

      Load of guff Ngannou landed 4 punches a round. This "monster" won't beat any top 10 boxer as usual the casuals being conned.

  • @eliterocky14
    @eliterocky14 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yo ❤

  • @Daniel-td3ke
    @Daniel-td3ke Před 5 měsíci +1

    Did talkSPORT have a morning brief? “Talk about pants as much as possible today chaps.”

  • @abizzle100
    @abizzle100 Před 5 měsíci +1

    No point arguing with an AJ yes man

  • @jameslundie6114
    @jameslundie6114 Před 5 měsíci

    Really like this guy

  • @Alkymick1
    @Alkymick1 Před 5 měsíci

    Fury stayed on the outside in the Ngannou fight because he had a month & some weeks after to recover, for Usyk, that's why Hearn's picked this fight, if Fury would've went to war with him he would have taken him out. Same with Wilder, he never threw a punch until he got clocked in the third, that wasn't Fury & Wilder in those fights & it's because Warren & Hearn stand to make a vast fortune out of it, they only said that Usyk (23rd) & Joshua fights were happening to generate interest (& it worked) & not surprisingly both fights got cancelled......

  • @andrewharmon9720
    @andrewharmon9720 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Simon bending himself in half to defend fury 😂 salty man

  • @andrew406
    @andrew406 Před 5 měsíci

    Why is it so hard to comprehend that it's harder for a Boxer to go into a MMA fight than vice versa. One sport you punch only and the other you have various ways to end the fight,punches, kicks,submission ect

    • @vernlaw
      @vernlaw Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly, also there are very few mma fighters that could go into boxing. Francis is an exception not the rule. Even Conor mcgregor who was in peak form and knocking out people with puches and had just won his second belt, fought mayweather who was 40 2 years retired, and was admittedly not training hard crushed him. Yeah Conor landed one punch that caught Mayweathers attention but for most of the fight he was throwing wierd punches that looked like hammer fists and by the end he could barely lift his arms he was so exhausted. The thing is he would probably do better than 95% of the UFC fighters if they entered the ring. MMA fighters are having a tough time with Jake Paul

  • @reebul8768
    @reebul8768 Před 5 měsíci

    The risk and timing of taking this fight does not out-weigh the reward.

  • @petersmith8037
    @petersmith8037 Před 5 měsíci +11

    AJ could have trilogies with Andy Ruiz & Parker. There’s stories & background with the likes of Zhang & Joyce. Rumours of Dubois putting him over in sparring so that would sell especially after Dubois beating Miller. There’s many more fights over Ngannou that AJ could have that would appeal.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Definitely other fights I'd have preferred to see Joshua take but I'd have it over a rematch. Too many rematches in boxing, at least this is a new fight.

    • @recodegamesstudio
      @recodegamesstudio Před 5 měsíci +12

      If the supposed #1 heavyweight WBC champ luke fury can fight chisora and the ngannou a year later, AJ who isn't a champion can fight too.

    • @bladerunner16
      @bladerunner16 Před 5 měsíci

      Totally agree mate.

    • @billdoor3140
      @billdoor3140 Před 5 měsíci

      Totally agree

    • @nzewidozie915
      @nzewidozie915 Před 5 měsíci +1

      What's so wrong about getting paid?
      After Francis beats all the top boxers the boxing purists would come around..

  • @jamesjarrett52
    @jamesjarrett52 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What the hell.. suddenly this bloke pops up talking as if he's the main man behind AJ!!

  • @frankeytwoshoes8187
    @frankeytwoshoes8187 Před 5 měsíci

    Simon right ! MONEY !!!

  • @MrWickHaHaBobayega
    @MrWickHaHaBobayega Před 5 měsíci +5

    can't wait to see the faces of the '' boxing community '' when Francis beats AJ most likely will get robbed of a decision once again but it will be glorious because just like with the Fury fight we will all know the truth

  • @maodijong3661
    @maodijong3661 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Btw Simon is stretching by being so negative about this fight after Ngannou put on a proper showing. AJ v Ngannou is a better fight than anyone not Usyk or fury atm.

  • @kneedown1980
    @kneedown1980 Před 5 měsíci +3

    AJ can't so anything right according to Simon, come on, give the dude some credit. AJ, win or lose, has never ducked anyone. Look at his resume, it's the best in the HW division. Fury has lost the respect of most fans due to his attitude, he has no legacy and Uysk is going to destroy him and I can not wait. The man needs to be humbled, then come back. If he has the strength to do so. That will determine his legacy.

  • @johnpotter2218
    @johnpotter2218 Před 5 měsíci +1

    if you want to see the top guys 3 times a year then at least 1 if not 2 of the fights need to be low impact on the boxer....dont understand why people cant get this....if you want AJ to fight top ten guys only then expect to see him twice a year, not 3 or 4....try joining the dots occassionally before opening your mouths....as far as Ngannou goes, if he lands on Joshua hes certainly good enough to finish him...and at about that point in time maybe saudi arabias interest in boxing diminshes somewhat

  • @lachlanmcrae6601
    @lachlanmcrae6601 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What these fools don’t understand is that Ngannou is a freak of nature and just because he might be able to hold his own against the best boxers does not mean other MMA fighters could. It’s not MMA vs Boxing, it’s Ngannou Vs Boxing because probably no one else in MMA could do what Ngannou is doing.

    • @cognito8325
      @cognito8325 Před 5 měsíci

      Pretty sure Cyril Gane and Tom Aspinall would do well too maybe not on the same level as Ngannou. These 3 are the freakiest athletes in HW combat sports.

  • @thomaskemp7362
    @thomaskemp7362 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Michael Jarman was excellent

  • @wibbletthewobblet9558
    @wibbletthewobblet9558 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I know there's not much interest after parker beat him but AJ should fight Wilder anyway and pick apart Fury's CV to force his hand a bit.

    • @badgasaurus4211
      @badgasaurus4211 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I would have rather seen Wilder vs AJ than AJ vs Ngannou. AJ vs Ngannou holds no value for a boxing fan who’s been following their rivalry for years

    • @wibbletthewobblet9558
      @wibbletthewobblet9558 Před 5 měsíci

      @@badgasaurus4211 agreed. Ngannou is hard as nails too, doubt AJ will stop him so hope he's prepared for a 12 rounder. If anything it could be a banana skin. Ngannou was never gunna get the decision over fury but he maybe could here.

  • @michaelthompson6885
    @michaelthompson6885 Před 5 měsíci +3

    AJ is trying force a Fury fight by battering Fury opponents that gave him a world of trouble.

    • @badgasaurus4211
      @badgasaurus4211 Před 5 měsíci

      The same reason he fought Franklin prior to the prospective fight against Whyte pre drug bust

    • @anon7503
      @anon7503 Před 5 měsíci +2

      They've left it too late for Joshua V Fury just like they left Joshua V Wilder hanging for too long. These guys are mid/late 30s now. Fury looks physically spent

    • @CS-pl8fc
      @CS-pl8fc Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@anon7503if Fury beats Usyk, there is no chance in hell that he doesn't retire immediately after to protect his record.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He's going to fight John McDermott next

    • @michaelthompson6885
      @michaelthompson6885 Před 5 měsíci

      Ha! Fury already rematched him though. @@joewhite22

  • @ngqaphelimchunu4611
    @ngqaphelimchunu4611 Před 5 měsíci

    AJ's post-Usyk rebuild was supposed to include Jermaine Franklin, Dillain Whyte & Otto Wallin, along with an already agreed two-fight deal with Deontay Wilder only for all of that to fall apart because of 1/2) Whyte popped dirty, 2/2) Wilder lost to Joseph Parker. Tyson Fury handpicked 39-year-old Derek Chisora who had lost 3 of his last 5 fights for his 3rd title defence. He then followed that up with a fight against Ngannou, who was making his boxing debut. All of this also occurred amid Fury quite clearly ducking Usyk, even after Usyk had accepted the 70-30 split. Simon is oversimplifying this. It was not the Saudis who staged Fury vs Chisora. It is disingenuous to make it seem as if the Saudis are just making gimmicky fights.

  • @dazhwood
    @dazhwood Před 5 měsíci

    It’s not about the money but boxing economics need to be considered🙄😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @tbxng3146
    @tbxng3146 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ngannou is more legit that wilder let’s go love this fight

  • @jayfernando506
    @jayfernando506 Před 5 měsíci

    That's ridiculous saying its impossible to put him on seat of his pants anything can happen with 2 powerful guys

  • @mctururu1940
    @mctururu1940 Před 5 měsíci

    Simon is on fire 🔥 t

  • @Pringlelover
    @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci

    I don’t know why they can’t still go ahead with the AJ v Wilder fight if it was already agreed & signed. So what if Wilder lost against Parker.

    • @ironcrusader728
      @ironcrusader728 Před 5 měsíci

      Are you for real haha, the amount of money that would be paid to wilder and AJ to fight will be huge and with wilder losing the other week it drops th intrigue and interest in that fight massively, atleast ngannou is a fresh match up people genuinely believe he has a good chance and rightfully so after his performance against fury and he also brings the MMA audience

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Fury has to say he took Francis seriously though even if he didn't. He was paid an insane amount of money so if he said he didn't take it as seriously or train as hard as he should he'd be admitting to basically robbing the Saudis.

    • @joeellis7928
      @joeellis7928 Před 5 měsíci +3

      💯 This has been my point all along.

    • @nokes1979
      @nokes1979 Před 5 měsíci

      Totally agree. The thing is if aj wins and does it comfortably it will show tysons lack of respect for the game etc. However it will only lead to a bigger build up for tyson and aj fight.

    • @dlaw2494
      @dlaw2494 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Should we say Aj didn't take ruiz seriously too or he didn't take usyk seriously too? Please stop making excuses for fighters. What you see is what you get. Or else we can make excuses for every fighter that lost that they didn't take their fights seriously. Enuff said

    • @MorgoYT
      @MorgoYT Před 5 měsíci +4

      Fury did take it seriously, had a massive camp and someone really close with their team Tom Aspinall confirmed all of this

    • @joeellis7928
      @joeellis7928 Před 5 měsíci

      @@MorgoYTYou’re not very bright are you 😂😂😂

  • @markjones5843
    @markjones5843 Před 5 měsíci

    Simon don't want to see the fight but I do. I like both fighters. It will be a great night of boxing. If he thinks it's a one sided fight stick all your money you own on it Simon

  • @JB-td9fz
    @JB-td9fz Před 5 měsíci

    Helmets discussing stuff they know jack about

  • @maodijong3661
    @maodijong3661 Před 5 měsíci

    I disagree that the MMA guys can take more punishment. In most weight divisions a prime, top level boxer will defeat a prime top level MMA fighter who switches over. The problem is either fury was not at his best or these guys just aren't of the highest skill level.

  • @Sean-pm3vd
    @Sean-pm3vd Před 5 měsíci

    Personally think its quite clever from aj as if he beats francis in decent fashion it cements the fury fight n if joshua would have gone for hrgovic noone would even know who he is and hes a hard bloody fight for joshua he struggles with pure boxers ruiz and usyk

  • @rauly93
    @rauly93 Před 5 měsíci +1

    AJ can do what he wants and he doesn't have any titles. Also Ngannou will come in even better than against Fury, and after he beat Fury, Ngannou is a proper hard fight.
    It's no guarantee that a fight between AJ and Hrgovich would be for a title in March, and AJ isn't going to wait around. This is a great fight, anyone that doesn't like it can shut up.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @TheAfricanFighters
    @TheAfricanFighters Před 5 měsíci

    How is Ngannou ridiculously ranked as No.10. If he beat Simon so called Greatest Heavyweight of this Era whether he was prepared or not. Ngannou should be ranked above 10 if we are to be honest.

  • @stevem7250
    @stevem7250 Před 5 měsíci

    How can any one judge nganoua on one fight not one straight stiff jab against him let alont straight left and right. People getting carried away

  • @bladerunner16
    @bladerunner16 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Very little jeopardy. Joshua will win comfortably.

    • @bladerunner16
      @bladerunner16 Před 5 měsíci

      @j2808 I wouldn't go that far. It was a poor fight. They both barely landed a punch in a lot of rds.

  • @spaghettilegs9882
    @spaghettilegs9882 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Ngannou should be the WBC champion, he beat Fury and got robbed.
    It also embarrasses Fury if AJ makes it look easy.

  • @paulkirby2761
    @paulkirby2761 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would have preferred to see Wilder fighting Francis. See just how hard Wilder actually hits.

    • @peterf08
      @peterf08 Před 5 měsíci

      Would be interesting

    • @jackkeane6
      @jackkeane6 Před 5 měsíci

      Wilder can’t throw a punch anymore nowadays. Tyson killed the bronze bomber

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper1 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Simon's always stating the bare obvious & tryna be his negative self. I'm a hardcore boxing fan & everyone I know is happy with this fight. Hergovic simply isn't an option ue to timing & even if it did it's rather dull seeing AJ go for a vacant title against a dull guy

  • @daddymoanychronicles2285
    @daddymoanychronicles2285 Před 5 měsíci

    Francis is a new kid to the sport.
    And it’s not fair that he can just join the boxing world and become a ranked 10 fighter in the heavyweight division.
    There is a sense of copying Fury from AJ which is frustrating us.
    Zhang,Joyce, and Ruiz were all available

    • @azieldaly2965
      @azieldaly2965 Před 5 měsíci

      No one cares about them. We want to see more Ngannou.

  • @officialcoachdanny
    @officialcoachdanny Před 5 měsíci +5

    Simon is the man finally sticking his head up and saying what needs to be said, the man is a don 👏👏👏

  • @willz100
    @willz100 Před 5 měsíci

    Aj has got himself in a position to fight hergovic when the ibf belt becomes available , ngannou isn’t ranked with the ibf so even if aj does lose he can still fight hergovic clever move from Aj’s team and he’s getting 30 mill

  • @daveknight4562
    @daveknight4562 Před 5 měsíci

    Here's a big question because I see people say oh fury is just a bigger version of a usyk witch is so wrong does anybody actually know what furys style is because it makes me laugh 😂

  • @MrAntonBerg
    @MrAntonBerg Před 5 měsíci

    Its all about money and thats okay.

  • @rhysrichmond8349
    @rhysrichmond8349 Před 5 měsíci

    Fury did train for the fight he just used the exact same style he does in every fight and you can't do that against an mma fighter I agree styles make fights

  • @BERTLEWEED
    @BERTLEWEED Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's an absolute disgrace. With all due respect to Ngannou, dozens of fighters have been working for years to get into a position to fight as a top contender (there are 18 fighters in the top ten across the 4 different alphabelts). Why isn't AJ fighting Zhang, or Kabayel after his brilliant dismantling of Makhmudov, or the up and coming Frank Sanchez for example? Those guys deserve the shots after many years of dedication, and blood, sweat and tears (and frankly, they're the better fights); as opposed to Ngannou just leapfroging to the top of the pile because of the greed of the boxing business: the promoters and the TV companies. Another plus for the business of boxing and a big fat minus for boxing as a sport.

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci

      Because they haven’t fought good enough opposition therefore don’t truly deserve a big fight. They need to fight each other to determine they most worthy contenders. I do understand your indignation about Ngannou however. You have a very valid point.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Blame the Saudis for this. They are the ones making a lot of these big fights happen so respect there, but they are also the ones trying to push Ngannou to the front of the queue with offers to opponents that they just can't decline. To be fair though, they gave Kabayel his fight against Makhmudov and without that Kabayel wouldn't be on anyone's radar.

  • @basit1192
    @basit1192 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is that AJ’s dad ?

  • @realityosei3689
    @realityosei3689 Před 5 měsíci

    simon has no idea how many eyes and new fans are coming to boxing cuz of "these fights" i say is good let it on

  • @user-me6ld9fo3t
    @user-me6ld9fo3t Před 5 měsíci

    This is exactly the reason they should’ve had AJ against Wilder on 23rd. It was obvious this would happen. Parker was the worst fight they could’ve picked.

  • @spaghettilegs9882
    @spaghettilegs9882 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Making excuses for Fury as usual, when will you realise he's just overrated and got dropped by a novice.

  • @Pigeoning
    @Pigeoning Před 5 měsíci +2

    Fury made this fight a necessary evil. A real boxing champion has to knock this hype train off it's rails.
    Nothing against Ngannou, it's just that Fury embarrassed the the entire sport and now someone has
    to right that wrong.

    • @Pringlelover
      @Pringlelover Před 5 měsíci +1

      I really do wish that people will stop saying Fury embarrassed the sport of boxing. How has he embarrassed the sport? By having a very competitive fight against an opponent who many people (probably most) thought he would beat easily? Anything can happen in a fight. Are all the opponents who Fury has beaten therefore also an embarrassment to the sport? Are they not worthy of being called professional boxers because they are so weak & have almost no boxing ability?

    • @Pigeoning
      @Pigeoning Před 5 měsíci

      @@Pringlelover Short bus energy, kid

  • @bladerunner16
    @bladerunner16 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Joshua is taking a step backwards with this fight.

    • @mikeypc3592
      @mikeypc3592 Před 5 měsíci

      With the amount he's being paid, I doubt it. Plus any potential title shot is at least 6 months away and that's IF the IBF strip the winner of Fury v Usyk. I don't blame Joshua fighting Ngannou in the meantime. It's an intriguing fight.

    • @bladerunner16
      @bladerunner16 Před 5 měsíci

      @mikeypc3592 There is zero credibility for Joshua in this match. Ngannou is the latest cash cow on the scene at the moment, unfortunately.

    • @Surnameis3Syllables
      @Surnameis3Syllables Před 5 měsíci

      What about Fury? He was the WBC champion?

  • @Abs-xl4gb
    @Abs-xl4gb Před 5 měsíci

    Issac Lowe is in camp

  • @randomas5565
    @randomas5565 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bakole came out today and said fury wasn’t sparring the same rounds, and with no intensity compared to other camps , take into that there was no footage of Ngannu now there is , I see AJ winning easily

    • @concernedcitizen5053
      @concernedcitizen5053 Před 5 měsíci

      He still has a granite chin. He looked composed in there. He still has deadly punching power. I still think he can get an upset.

  • @vernlaw
    @vernlaw Před 5 měsíci +1

    The mistake these folks make is they are generalizing MMA fighters. Francis Nganouu to me is the exception. For instance Jon jones to me is the all time greatest mma fighter and probably would beat Nganou in mma. He would get murdered inside the ring with any of those heavyweights. Ngannou in his mind has always been a boxer. He didn’t even know what MMA was months before he started competing in it and had to be talked away from boxing into mma because it was easier to get an mma fight. The fact that he went on to be a UFC champion despite that not even being his passion and him starting training it at 26 should tell people what an exceptional athlete he is. Not to mention his life story. He’s not a threat to boxing as an mma fighter. He is a one off once in a lifetime athlete

    • @cognito8325
      @cognito8325 Před 5 měsíci

      Jon Jones would get battered by Ngannou in MMA

    • @vernlaw
      @vernlaw Před 5 měsíci

      @@cognito8325 I mean I don’t know. They both have their strengths. Unfortunately m, we won’t find out. That’s not my point though. My point is that Francis is not a representative of the mma community when it comes to boxing. He’s a unique individual with a unique story

  • @vn5520
    @vn5520 Před 5 měsíci

    Ngannou is slow but if he can time it again he can put AJ out, I give him a punchers chance same like in the fury fight but my prediction is AJ via decision

  • @mattreynolds187
    @mattreynolds187 Před 5 měsíci +1

    AJ is a far superior boxer without a doubt but Usyk rocked AJ in both fights. Ngannou will absolutely land on AJ and he is by far the most dangerous puncher he’s ever faced. As a boxer I want AJ to do a job in Ngannou but I’m calling it right now AJ gets slept.

    • @mackajmc
      @mackajmc Před 5 měsíci

      Likewise. I’ve lumped on Francis knocking him out at 6/1

  • @HorridOnlineTroll
    @HorridOnlineTroll Před 5 měsíci +1

    Joshua doesn't hold any titles, it isn't the same as ducking the first undisputed heavy weight fight in 20+ years in favour of a 0-0 boxer lol, that being said it would've been cool if the Saudis wanted Zhang but it is what it is

  • @Purple.butterfly881
    @Purple.butterfly881 Před 4 měsíci

    Unfortunately heavyweight boxing has become a non sporting sport. Imagine in the tyson,Lewis etc generation boxers would be fighting UFC fighters? Its damaging the sport than good

  • @pnefc2
    @pnefc2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    AJ will beat these average fighters and they will sell him as amazing, they did it before Ruiz and will do it after
    Stick AJ in against an elite wilder, Zhang, fury or even parker and see how he gets on

  • @TheNightMammoth
    @TheNightMammoth Před 5 měsíci

    Some hilarious snobbery coming among the boxing community. They have learned nothing from the Fury Ngannou fight. I'm sure AJ will win in the end but it's wild to see them dismiss the challenge.

  • @VMBSSS
    @VMBSSS Před 5 měsíci +1

    AJ is the man, without question.
    AJ wants to do what Fury didn’t to say, I’m the big dwag here by smashing NGanu

  • @jamessmith839
    @jamessmith839 Před 5 měsíci

    Rather see nnganou in boxing gloves then wilder ....

  • @DmDaPDm
    @DmDaPDm Před 5 měsíci

    Hmm I’m unsure of this fight. Francis will take chances, he has the fortune of not being seen as a legit boxer, so he can be more free and if he loses bad, it doesn’t matter, the Tyson Fury fight will help carry his boxing career.
    Francis can be beat mentally, he lost the Derrick Lewis fight because he feared the backlash of losing a fight after being beaten by Stipe, AJ gotta put that same fear into him again.
    The difference from those fights is, Francis got beaten up by Stipe, so was doubting himself before Derrick…He’s super confident now after the Tyson fight, so the only way to bring him down a peg is to do it in the ring. Woo good luck AJ.

  • @FanOMisery
    @FanOMisery Před 5 měsíci

    The Saudis want it, because everyone wants it. Tbh ZZ would be a good sell, but nowhere as big with the MMA audience. No other opponent comes close

  • @stuarth6153
    @stuarth6153 Před 5 měsíci

    When AJ wins I hope this stops these cross over fights for awhile. Fury did not take ngannou seriously in the slightest and paid the reputational price. Not only that fury is WBC champ and was holding up the division by taking the ngannou fight.
    AJ has no obligation, no belt, no eliminator currently so I don't mind him fighting however I would like to see AJ take the hrgovic fight.

  • @SuperChalkster
    @SuperChalkster Před 5 měsíci

    expect AJ too win easily, but wouldnt be surprised at all if went the distance.

  • @ezekielthemack
    @ezekielthemack Před 5 měsíci

    I think people are seriously underestimating the ability of Francis Ngannou. They're going to learn the hard way.

  • @user-se4in5rh4y
    @user-se4in5rh4y Před 5 měsíci

    This will be more competitive than the majority think.
    When has AJ fought a 270lb opponent? The answer is never.
    When has AJ fought an opponent with a longer reach? The answer is never.
    Ngannou can punch and can take a punch. The first 6 rounds will be very interesting.

  • @keithchegwin1222
    @keithchegwin1222 Před 5 měsíci

    Well Fury was a world champion when he fought him. AJ is just a contender, so yes i think it's a good idea.

  • @boxingmmachat3125
    @boxingmmachat3125 Před 5 měsíci

    Fury was not fight fit that was very obvious and martin bikoli said he wasnt training hard at all