12 Fans, 0 Airflow: One of the Worst Cases We've Reviewed | Abkoncore Ramesses 780
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- This case includes 12 case fans stock, but the case is like a black hole for airflow. We're reviewing the Abkoncore Ramesses 780, which is one of the worst-designed cases we've reviewed.
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The Abkoncore Ramesses 780 (R780) is a massive full-tower case that's outfitted with 12 fans stock, but most of them blow into walls. We're completely baffled by how anyone could actually design this intentionally, then still brag about how great the airflow and cooling is. This case, despite being large, is so inefficiently laid-out that its actual usable space is comparable to much smaller enclosures, so it doesn't even win in the "just be large" department. The fans were even custom-designed to mount in the bottom while showing the LEDs clearly, but they still can't overcome the panel limitations for air access.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Brian Hates Us
02:05 - The Fans
08:27 - Build Notes
18:18 - Noise Testing
20:12 - CPU Thermals
21:45 - GPU Thermals
23:03 - 3D Mark Thermals
23:40 - Blender Thermals
24:25 - Conclusion
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Steve with the Cooler Master H500m would adding 2 additional top mounted 200mm fans make temperatures WORSE when air cooling with a Noctua D15? Would it be better to set up the 2 additional 200m top mounted fans as intake or exhaust? Or top front as intake and top back as exhaust? I was wondering having a top fan infront of cpu air cooler could make temps worse by stealing air intaken from the front 2 default fans BEFORE it reached the noctua d15.... and would having a top front 200mm fan as intake right next to a top back 200mm set up as exhaust create any kind of negative feedback loop/ vortex that keeps recycling hot air somrhow? TLDR = i really want the Cooler Master H500m case with 4x200m fans for visuals (obviously keeping the default rear 140mm fan as exhaust too) but dont want to make temperatures worse, any advice on how to set up the 2 additional top 200mm fans, or is it a bad idea to add fans to the H500m case when air cooling ?
I haven't finished the review, but sbeve, would the case be cooler if the fans had even more RGB? Asking for myself
Well that case depressed me, thanks Steve.
1. the product page is now 404 because product name changed recently, it's no longer called Ramesses 780 but R780. Product page is at abkoncore.com/post/252
2. thank you for having my name appeared on your video at 25:12
I've just checked their home page :D found this gem czcams.com/video/VWoD9b2v_DU/video.html are they Photoshop in smoke to show how airflow is working?
almost looks like whoever made this case thought that fans produce cool air
but in reality all consumed power goes to heat. additional 7 fans spinning inside this case its extra lets say 7watts of heat. (1watt per each fan)
Yeah, also apparently Air can pass through Solid Steel,
why are the 3 fans to the right of the Motherboard there, they don't have any holes to the Cable Routing space behind the motherboard tray, so they are blowing into a solid panel 🤪
I think someone saw the o11 dynamic but not very closely or just didn't give a shit.
@@KenS1267 did you look up the In Win 303, this is so much like a terrible ATX version
Wait... They DONT!?
Named Ramesses because there's about the same amount of air here as in a sarcophagus
💀
Reading that nearly made me spit out my drink.
More like Ra Mess it is
No no no, its called that because it's a coffin for your PC components.
@@ArbiterofMankind but you're PC dies in that coffin, but you're supposed to only put things inside a coffin that have already been dead before
Funnily enough, circulating hot air inside a box is how a convection oven works. Those extra fans inside are literally cooking your components.
I will never understand people who are so crazy about these components temperatures while if the CPU is under 100 degrees it's already safe. I've been running my CPU (i7 7700) at 80-95 degrees and GPU (1080ti) at under 81 degrees for 5 years already and everything works perfectly fine. Most of people would already change their components atleast 2 times within that time. I have only 2 intake - one at the front and one at the side that brings air under GPU. And I have stock cooler for CPU. And that's enough :)
@@alreawon1212 80 to 95° is horrible in general, especially for such low specs.
@@michaelcarrier103 Can you elaborate?
@@alreawon1212 Meaning those temperatures are horrible for a 7700k and a 1080ti, neither of which should get that hot for the amount of power they pull. I have an i5-12400 and I have yet to see it touch 60 degrees even under full load. So 80 to 95 degrees for a 7700k is absurd.
@@GearheadK20C4 It's quite normal if your case doesn't have a good ventilation. But that was not my point, read my previous comment again.
Maybe we can create a processor that decreases entropy? As in, it takes an already solved math problem as an input, un-solves it, and creates cold instead of heat. This case would be perfect!
Wouldn’t that be factoring?
@@dabo5078 it's giving it a factored polynomial and then having the nth degree polynomial theorem removed from existence when it finishes processing
Better yet we can make an engine that make fuel from co2
@@no-lifenoah7861 hi
@@coloradohikertrash9958 hello?
"open the wind way" just means that you should remove all the panels before using the case
Open the wind way better become a meme...
@@TheUncleshady "failed OC? just open the wind way!"
Or open your window to yeet this failed experiment out through said window
I thought it meant drop yer kegs, bend over and let rip with a Windy Miller.
better remove the case
When your company's only requirement is that everyone has a marketing degree.
😂😂😂
It looks like it was designed by Apple. I saw a Macbook on Louis Rossman's channel recently that doesn't have cooling for the CPU at all. It has a heatsink on the CPU...that is connected to nothing. There is not a single heat pipe to be found anywhere. There is a fan jammed into a corner blowing air...onto nothing. It's a placebo fan. That Macbook reminds me of this case (although this case is actually better than that).
ROFL good one tho I'm not sure they require any degree.
@@StormsparkPegasus That's one of the Macbook Air models. At least the MacBook Pros have passable air circulation.
@@StormsparkPegasus just for showing people that Macbook Air has a "cooling" fan, then proceed to slap $999
Finally, a PC case that meets the extremely high standards of The Verge.
i will never take those clowns seriously
theyre the fox news of the tech world
nothing but bullsh!t and stupidity
The verge will never live that build down, and that’s beautiful
Lol, the verge called, they want their case back!
It seems that The Verge was behind this case design.
yes, they got one
This is genius, how did nobody think of this before?!
Even the best dust filters still let some through, but solid steel lets absolutely no dust through, genius!
Cave Johnson here you looking for a job..
@@jeffstrains4014 When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!
If eBay sellers got their hands on this, they’d put in a Pentium and a GT 1030 and call it a “gaming PC” selling for $1000
oof
Sad but true.
I think it would have a gt 210 gaming beast
And people would buy it too, so their kid could play Fortnite.
@@chinchin3274 they would be competitive against bots.. Maybe
He's going to feel so dumb when he realizes he just reviewed a fan oven, thinking it was a PC case.
A pretty expensive one without built-in heater lol
@@lewislu8533 every component in this case is now known as, and functioning as, a built in heater, hahah
@@JD_13 but if the case was still sold each one of those fans cost $35 fore like just 1
It’s called an air fryer
some say one can bake cupcakes in there in 85 degrees for 2 hours. Then replace the 2 heaters(GPU and CPU) because it just burned out.
Funny, I bought an Abkoncore case (can't remember the model) for a simple "office spec" PC, just a 2200G nothing fancy. It has 3 fans at the front, supposedly for intake, and 1 at the back (the usual place). Thing is, there's absolutely NO holes AT ALL on the front plate, it's sealed shut, just plain metal and a semi-transparent strip for the RGB. There are small slits at the top, which seems to be more of a decoration than anything else, you can't even install any fan there. So the only functional hole is the exhaust one at the back, which pulls air out without allowing any air in (or the minuscule amount of air sucked in through that decoration slits).
I think it's designed by the same guy. The fact they have 3 fans at the front with ZERO holes to let air in is mind blowing, no pun intended
Probably some weird fluke between manufacturer and brand / reseller. The brand company could simply be one guy who doesn’t know shit about fans but is using a case never intended for his purposes.
3 guys sitting in a warehouse with 1000 fans stacked all around them: "Man, what do we do with all these fans...?" ]
Q: Should I configure these fans as intake, or exhaust?
A: No.
A: Perpendicular to both
r/inclusiveor
XD
i lold, thx. :,)
Eh doesn’t matter they don’t go anywhere
So, you could say this is a "OnlyFans" -case.
.....
Just take the like and go.
Ohh yeah, remove that sidepanel you dirty, dirty case.
😒
Theres other comments on this video.
Yet this has only 190 likes.
Get out!
"They've somehow managed to make ventilation dangerous and ineffective."
Got a good chuckle from me, sir. Cheers... now let's burn it so it doesn't reproduce...
This entire video was hilarious.
This reminds me of that time my father put on what he thought was mosquito repellent, but it was actually a mosquito attractant that you're supposed to put close by so that it would attract mosquitoes to itself and away from you.
Man, the 2020 Disappointment PC is going to be straight fire.
Literally!
Looks like Steve needs to make friends with his local fire fighters before he does the next Disappointment PC.....
It should have won the 2019 award but we’ll settle for 2020.
2021 would be literally a burning pile of plastic and metal.
Send it to that 'verge' guy for him to a build in, i'm sure he will not stop talking about how amazing the airflow is...
Plenty of space for "braces" and "tweezers" too!
@PCDYYD your
:)
@PCDYYD :)
Will top it out with thermal paste, completely full of it!
given the cost of manufacturing I would legitimately like to know how this makes it to existence
the fact that people buy it makes it exist
Probably some weird fluke between manufacturer and brand / reseller. The brand company could simply be one guy who doesn’t know shit about fans but is using a case never intended for his purposes.
When you graduated in Arts and found a job in Engineering.
Seems to be a common theme these days. Not just computers, but all sorts of products. From small appliances, cheap faucets, cheap vacuum cleaners. I'm really under the impression that proper engineering is a lost art, and the new approach to engineering is to compensate a device's lack of function and performance by throwing a processor on it and making it able to connect to your WiFi.
@@spacemanrick2014 with mit doing that waterseer thing its obvious being woke beats talent.
@@spacemanrick2014 And adding RGB before saying "Look! Colours."
yeah but, it looks more of an fan arrangement than art tbh
@@nikopulkkinen But the actual fan's design is very inefficient, not something an actual engineer with a degree, or even a basic understanding of how fans work, from a technician's understanding of fan design. Those fans themselves are clearly designed by an "artist", and not by someone with technical knowledge or understanding about fans.
Thumbnails never dissapoint. The case is being cooked by the extreme glare of Tech Jesus..
And here I thought it was blushing from his intense gaze....
I love this thumbnail. Great job Steve!
hahahah you are so on point. steve will be more known the linus in couple of years i bet
I see it as him looking disappointedly at a dumpster fire... 😅
That's a good one. 🤣😂👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 I need to use that one myself sometime.
Engineer: We need more airflow, maybe lets add some ventilation?
Marketing department: **Chuckles in 12 fans**
Engineer:....ventilation is import-
Marketing department: **rolls on the floor in tempered glass**
"Chuckles in 12 fans" or "chuck in 12 fans"? You must have been laughing at your own "joke" at the time of typing this
@@Dexter101x You would have understood him if you opened the wind way...
Edit: fixed the typo
@@alexr6458 I have no idea what you mean. Chuckles means to laugh
I dont think they had a single engineer in the team, just industrial designers that thought if it looks cool, it will be cool :D
@@SirKakalaCh Correct. Even an agricultural engineer could have done a way better job there!
Perfect its just what ive been looking for. I hate airflow -- I think they should put rubber gaskets on the side panels to make sure that no air gets in!
This is a prime example of making a PC case look more appealing over having a better cooling system. Some PC cases have this problem but to a lesser extent.
I'm now realizing that GN invented themselves a new niche here: horrible or just odd case review as an entertainment (but doing it with all seriousness).
And while fun and all it's still educating for us and gives some feedback to manufacturers. Everyone wins, nice
Except Steve, *he has review them*
poor Steve ;;
@@absurddive Patrick does the Case Reviews, because Steve Knows how terrible most of them are & doesn't want to be anywhere near them, he even looked Queezy just standing next to this one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Steve is making it a Challenge for us to find them the Worst AirFlow Case for Patrick to Review 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
G/N Viewers "Challenge Accepted" 😁
The next case they get for testing is a gun safe...Steve "still cooler than the Rameses 780 with the door closed".
@@wboyd33 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 then...
Join us at 5pm Eastern for our next G/N Live Stream where we will be Building a PC in a Convection Oven, Then Attempting to Run Benchmarks at 180°C/356°F while cooking Dinner...
"CPU & GPU still cooler than the Ramesses 780".
I love reviews like these. That bit about Brian keeping his battery so you too could experience it as he did had me dying
That was pure gold that bit
This case doesn't deserve to keep my $3 battery.
@@BPSCustoms =O i wasnt expecting this lol. love your content too
I never knew there would be so much that could go wrong with a case, I'll definitely be more wary when choosing my case. Thank you for making this video!
It's actually shocking how a person designed and started manufacturing this without knowing how airflow even works. It's just blowing hot air into a mostly sealed box lmao. It's like, you need to cool your house down so you put 20 fans in each room blowing against the walls and then close the door 😂😂
"So liquid cooling is a closed loop, right? What if we tried that with air?"
Big brain
Try using hydrogen, and close it similar to liquid cooling. Would love to see that.
@@xzidiaxianzus7265 All you need is a single spark and you'd have fireworks.
@@andregon4366 well yeah, if you expose it to oxidizers. A great way to fend of thieves or delete your Web history.
"Open the wind way" was actually the choking case trying to communicate with its manufacturer
Underrated comment.
actually your comment was "referenced" in GN's best worst case 2020 video, and by referenced I mean just straight up copied without paying any royalties.
I 'open the wind way' every time I eat Mexican.
@@Jojo11119 who would pay royalties for a youtube comment lol
@@flipper607 congrats you didn't get the joke
Because of this video, every time I put on my tempered glass side panel, I hear Steve saying "Open the wind way"
Oh im not alone
Gamers Nexus: This is the worst case ever
Me: flips the fans
It's the worst-case ... case.
"Designed by The Verge"
Damn, I just wrote something like that. Now I can delete my outdated comment. : /
LMAOO OK I CANT
The first smile I made this day. And I am having a shitty day. Good one.
@@SteamCheese1 Let's go out and build a white PC - out of snow! : D
i can already imagine them saying something like "we put 12 fans for ultimate cooling! every pc expert knows that more fans = more cooling."
Fun made-up fact:
"Open the air flow" is not a marketing slogan as many people seem to think... It's a command. You have to do it.
I was thinking it wasn't a marketing slogan but a cry for help.
If you look closely at the image at 3:20 you'll notice that the airflow seems to be coming from removed panels. Also observe that there are no components inside of said case. Such a case would remain at a desirable room temperature. I also love a chassis that with ventilation so large I can stick my finger directly into the rear exhaust.
The funny thing is, with a few modifications and some elbow grease you could turn this monstrosity into a cooling monster. There's certainly enough space to do so
It wouldn't be half bad if you drilled a bunch of holes in the SSD slots (just use m.2s), replaced the glass back panel with a metal mesh, and used some furniture risers to lift the case off the ground a bit more. But at that point you've basically converted it to an O11 Dynamic Evo, so you might as well save the time and the money and just buy that case instead.
It could be a cooling monster with half the fans....can't imagine the noise it makes.
Far less time money and effort to just buy a competent case though.
I was just thinking the same. You could build a honkin' big computer inside and still have enough room for a diorama. 😉
@@Legend1148stand offs to create an actual gap on the back panel would cost less than 25 cents. That's all it'd take.
It's called the Ramses because your PC will run as hot as the desert sands.
Where's Brendan Frasier when you need him?
maybe the 2nd one will be better than the 1st
F
@@PapaSeriaMikeRIP *Ben Stiller
I was thinking of Ozymandias (Supposedly another name for Ramses) quote "My name is Ozymandias, designer of computer cases. Look upon my airflow plan ye mighty and despair"
Seems like they've partnered with The Verge for this case
RN Bat they screwed In those fans with confidence!!
Oooh, burn.
They can probably sell a lot of this cases to their viewers.
lol i have to say this the worst case i had seen in a long time though. I hope this case will make it to the 2020 Disappointment cases of this year.
I mean seriously 12 fans!? why have the front so closed up!?
Verge x Apple for the new MAC X Pro +
I find it really odd you can`t even save this case with a open sidepanel while all 7 fans could push air out without obstruction. How on earth did they manage to do that?
I got the CM TD500 mesh and I am so glad i see it do so well in every test. Has to be one of the best high end budget case out there
*_This is basically what happens when you let a designer do what they want without any regard for what the engineer says._*
I work for one of the big 3 automakers in Detroit and it is terrifying to know that half of our vehicles are barely getting enough airflow to the radiator because some _"genius"_ designer wants to put a pretty-looking plastic grille texture in front of it that doesn't let hardly any air through.
I just had flashbacks to a radiator job on a '99 Chrysler 300M...
Designer: But BARELY enough IS still enough, correct?
Engineer: ........
How else am I going to recognize a GMC 1500 without the 12 foot wide wall of chrome for a grille?
Easiest secondary mod ever
I forgot which brand but a friend stopped his car from overheating by removing the grille and replacing it with some debris filter mesh i had (~40% porosity, ~70% effective porosity after i put it in a form tool he now has on his wall)
And that was after taking the stock engine from ~250 to 600 with a turbo
I'm gonna go with GM. I'm doubting it's Ford cause you can hear a Ford's fan before you can hear their exhaust, not only that they flexed a few years back that the Ford Focus RS had to put a blocking plate in front of their intercooler cause "it was 20% TOO effective"
In engineering there is no TOO effective. There is 20% defective. Just make a smaller intercooler if that's the case. The real reason was obviously aerodynamics. Throwing a square foot of straight flat plastic on your otherwise open grill is gonna help a lot in aerodynamics.
And just look at Dodge. All of them have grills wider than most. It's kind of their style big open grills (think Neon especially SRT4 or 2nd gen Dodge RAM).
I remember when Chevrolet had to make a hollow bowtie logo to have enough airflow for their Z/28's back in like 2016
So I can essentially run this case without anything in it to cool my bedroom by trapping all the hot air in it. A brand new way to air condition.
OR better yet get a dirt cheap motherboard with parts that are dirt cheap but run hot and save a fortune of your heating bills
…. I take my hat off to you for your impressive mental gymnastics.
"A standard case has six sides". Outstanding!
2:21 The first time I heard "Don't worry, it's glass on the other side" I gagged on my water so hard.
The remote is used when the flames from the case prevent you from reaching the buttons.
"Dispose" it to Jay next, so he can fix the Airflow with his trusty iFixit kit!
IFIXITTTTTTTTTTTTT *EXPLOSION*
And/or mod it to work (with his air conditioner e.g.)
Having Jay mod this case to make it work would be an interesting video
yeah, send it to jay. this would be a cool (well hot) case to mod
Does an ifixit kit contain a dremel?
Ahh the old 'inxhaust extake" fan config. I like it.
Steve, thank you so much for teaching me that [sic] stands for "spelled in context" that blew my mind
Shame about those holes at the back,,,, they almost achieved IP69K rating.
I prefer my computer cases to be stainless NEMA 4X, IP69K is overkill for my needs.
A good contender for the dissapointment build!
No hype for it means no disappointment though
Air fryer build. Toss an I9 in there, overclock it to hell, then try making some fries.
Maybe if there isn't a dissapointing case this year it will make the build.
Well, yeah, you have to have any kind of expectations to be disappointed.
@@mathewyen1614 I do agree but I still find it very dissapointing to put so much effort into making a product only for it to end up being so bad
I'll give an example as to how sensitive components are to the airflow their enclosure provides; So I have this almost cube-shaped case that has a perforated font bezel, but also two perforated side-panels, with one panel being a window, the back has one fan-mount and the bottom has about half of it perforated. - While the front has a foam filter, the two side-panels have some of those magnetic metal filters, and you could breathe through all of those quite comfortably. - So the case is very "arid" in general. Still, despite having a 200mm intake-fan in the front, a 140mm exhaust-fan in the back, and a 120mm-fan going out through a radiator in the top (as well as the PSU doing some light exhausting with its fan), I noticed that, when removing just the metal filters, it would drop the temperature of say the GPU significantly. Even though it could suck in all the air it would like with more than half the case being "open".
And to go even further; Despite the perforated panels without the metal filters being even more open, taking those off would yet again drop the temperature a significant few degrees. - But I think it also has to do with the fact that GPUs run so hot nowadays and a case just can't get rid of that amount of heat quickly enough. - So now I will just add a bunch more fans to those "open" areas, as they still just choke the components inside. Let alone these cases with completely solid panels.
I don’t understand why companies are so afraid to add intake holes on the front. The Power Mac G5 did it in 2003 and it was nice looking.
"Airflow that's both dangerous and ineffective"
Brilliant 😂😂
What a selling point.
The remote is used when the flames from the case prevent you from reaching the buttons.
sometimes my genius is, its almost frightning
12 fans 0 airflow “I don’t like where this is going”
I get the feeling this video is going nowhere.
Heat generator
Lmao contrast!!
@@luckysingh-lh4hf Its just a load of hot air, let's be honest
No worries, it isn't going anywhere
"More fans is not, indeed, more better."
Words to live by.
I got the Abkoncore Ramesses 310 with the same problem, but I love the design so I took My drill out and made the side panel look like a colander. Now airflow is great.
“Has a bit of fan for everyone. 9/10”
- IGN
"It's like a Toby Keith concert in there"
- GN
Edit: metaphor for the title
"7/10 not enough water" = Second IGN Reviewer
@@ThoughTMusic Not enough fans or RGB
Did this case really get a 9/10 on IGN? I tried googling it but couldn't find a review for this case.
@@pmclean1980 no. It is a joke.
Cooler Master now be like: "YES! YES!!! THIS IS HOW IT FEELS ABKO'. TASTE THE DEFEAT!!!".
I always wanted to watch someone show proper airflow by putting a tiny amount of coloured smoke next to the intake and see where it went.
Thanks for your videos they help with insomnia and help me get to sleep
"If the Verge designed a PC Case...."
"So it has 7 fans so all of your components stay cool and don't short out from the heat"
@@basshead. bruh
@@basshead. I mean say that to the 6000 series.
That's new, hybrid solution: CLAC - Closed Loop Air Cooling
This is a fantastic comment
@11:44 I started chuckling at the remote and then burst into laughter when he talks about the two options of fan speed! I really like this guy.
i like how GN was concerned about the thermals but ran at 64C max x) great vid thx !
Hottest case of 2020!
Again!!!! We meet again lol
It's a scorcher of a deal!
@@Blur4strike lmao
@@hashbiasshate8904 someone clearly has good taste!
i see u everywhere, on tech yes city and now here lmao
That "fan speed controller" that only knows on and off, nearly had me under the table.
That speed controller sound like a party animal.
I say "open the wind way" to myself sometimes when I'm opening doors
This video and the Thermal Paste video from GN have to be my favorite videos of all time 😂
“The whole system is a trap for hot air...”
This is easily my favorite PC video review of all time.
I suspect an all female design team behind this one. "system is a trap for hot air."
The case is basically just a convection oven for your pc components XD
Just an fyi, Abko completely trashed its ncore lineup and replaced it with Suitmaster, which has better cooling in some cases. That isn't to say that their full tower designs feature any meaningful airflow, but afaik their mini and mid towers are better. Also they shifted their focus to peripherals(thank goodness), and are pretty good value in Korea.
Source: had to talk a friend out of building in an ncore case
I've seen some budget Abko cases here in Malaysia and it's pretty alright for the $30-40 range. Funnily enough all had some sort of mesh front lol
This is one of my favourite videos in existence!
Nice Air Fryer review, subbed.
"More fans is not in fact mean more better." - Steve
"I see what you did there." - Donut Media
Patrick V crossover of the century in the making right there
I was trying to think of where I heard that from! Good ear. Crank up those fans for MO POWA BEHBEH
@@bretthousman8317 It's spelled "babeh".... Now I want to order their stickers to put on my case glass....lol
Donut Media was the first thing to pop into my head when Steve said that.... Glad I'm not the only one to watch both channels. I was actually watching videos on another channel the other day that mentioned watching Steve's, Jay's and Linus' videos.... I got real nervous at that point....
Now send it to Linus or Jay.
Send it that going to be very entertaining
Send it to Jay first. Linus will drop it and end the journey of shame.
@@wesleybrehm9386 that's what I was thinking. Send that case to Jay to review next and have Jay send it to Linus for review.
One major unmentioned issue is the lack of proper shrouds around the fan reducing their effectiveness even more, presumably for the sake of the 'spider' design aesthetic.
if you added extenders to the side with the glass to create a gap, you'd still need (in my opinion) some means of internal flow management. with so many fans fighting for the path of the air, the conflict of each might interfere with other fans. so even with holes, you will probably need some panels or dividers to help direct the flow for it to be effective, which would alter the view through the glass of course... would it be appealing thou?
The case who's official motto is "Tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter."
Lp lol
And the owner of this case is the only one who lost it all.
Wicked 😆😅
Cracking track too 😉
You guys should blow smoke through/around the case to watch the “airflow” through this monstrosity. (Not sure if this would damage components or anything like that)
I think they would just use a heat camera. You can see the hotter air show up more red and the colder air show up blue.
Eh honestly they don’t need to put components in it to do that, it’s not like the airs going anywhere angway
Yeh we dont need a airflow test in a closed box xD
@@thegreathadoken6808 A heat camera won't highlight air... You'd only be able to spot the heat distribution on solid surfaces lol
Nah no damage, they could.
Seems like a decent oven. Thanks for the review!
Listening to a proper review of why something is bad is pretty entertaining.
This has been my biggest pet peeve building a system recently for the first time in many years. So many cases have pretty RGB fans on the front. Behind a PANE OF GLASS. Which, last I checked, glass sucks for airflow.
Legit trying to find an rgb case that doesn’t have any gimmicks that limit airflow is a huge concern of mine and thus far I’ve found a few I like
@@Sentralkontrol Lian Li mini
That would be a great case as a "decoy computer" Slap a Pentium in it and set it on a desk. Then hide the real computer somewhere. That way when thieves break in they don't get your data.
Indeed. All the case does is look pretty to people who dont know how air cooling works....so most people.
Just get a computer with bad specs with a bad power supply so it explodes.
"This is the biggest monstrosity I've never seen" XD You made my day Steve :)
seeing the raven r02 up there makes me proud. ive been using that case for a decade now, might finally retire it soon though
Korean Computer Hardware nut here, Built few PCs here and there and i can't help but make a comment about it, Because OH boy. You'd be surprised how many of these kinds of questionable or straight up fail hardware are out here. By the way the company is question is called simply "ABKO" here, and their lineup is a bit different (or at least, just name changes) locally. Also they make more than cases but i haven't used any of their products personally so i digress.
But i do have to mention this big hog of a case is apparently being sold for about 300,000 KRW (approx $253 USD). Yeesh.
Don't get me wrong though. There are also a lot of other companies that makes genuine (or at least resonable) products ( Not counting obvious Samsung/LG/Hynix that is. ). It's just there's also equal ratio mix of "abomination".
@@revolverswitch seems to be. We got used PSU, mainboards, and GPU from Korea. Like have you heard about eMTEK gpu? It's sold here, seems to be 2nd hand korean stuff. I'm Indonesian, Filipino might've same situation. Filipino calls their product as "Korean surplus"
Also, PC bang exists, so seems like demand is there.
seems like something from kerbal space program.
You need a faster rocket? add more engines
You need a cooler PC? add more fans.
This case only fails because they didn't include a teseract to pull in air from another dimension.
You need another one to pull the air out.
Which is cost $69k
Could you in theory put spacers/large washers in between the glass panels and use longer screws? Creating maybe half an inch gap?
This is actually probably less effective than if it just had rear and bottom fans because of the fans that point nowhere. Turbulence is terrible for airflow. People who build Small Block Ford engines very often grind the turbulence humps out of the exhaust passages to get enough airflow to make real power. I know because I've done it.
I guess it was inspired by an Egyptian Sarcophagus
Huge, boxy, cursed and should not be opened in 2020
Not to mention full of air that has been sealed in it for a millennium or two
When you see him angry, you know it's gonna be a nuke.
The coolest case I've ever had was some Corsair Graphite the size of a building. It looked a lot like the 760T but I believe it was a bit different as it had no glass. Anyway, I noticed it's not on the list and I'm kind of disappointed because it's by far the coolest running case I've ever touched. It had a lot of annoyances though. It was loud, ate dust and the door-like sidepanel kept shaking up against the metal. It was hella heavy and a chore to take it to a computer store when I had some weird issues (Motherboard issue, in the end). Anyway, you should test that one if you can get your hands on it.
This is probably the funniest review I have ever seen to any product.
How many fans you want in your case, Billy Idol? “Moar, moar, MOOAAAARRRR!”
It's a good thing it came with 12 fans, they're the only fans of this case I think.
This case seems to perfectly fill the niche for people who like fans but really hate airflow
I have an ethnoo pro for the rig I just built. I had to replace a different case that was shipped poorly and damaged, and Amazon had next day shipping on the ethnoo. I didn't realize when I bought it they were released half a decade ago, and wouldn't have if I hadn't looked it up. It's a great budget full size case. I dont use the psu cover as it seems to block the psus fan.
Even with your current beef with MSI, you refused to subject their parts to your standard stress test because thermals got so bad immediately....
That says basically everything you need to know about how bad this case is.
You can't break a chip off tempered glass. The whole panel would break instantly. So I suspect it's just ordinary tinted glass, and it will break into large sharp shards. Beware.
You can. Tempered glass can chip.
The perimeter of toughened glass is not under the same stress. You can chip off quite a bit off the edges (general rule is thickness if the glass deep is not toughened)
I have been working in glass manufacturing for over 15 years.
personally ive always enjoyed the fan noise. Obviously ive heard some annoying ones but thats usually when something is wrong with the fan or its clearance. But a nice low buzz at idle or her chugging at full speed in game really brings her to life.