I find it extremely hilarious that Skyhook and Dovetail will go out of there way to create re-skins for locomotives behind a pay wall, while you can just get them for free in the creators club.
Your analogy reminds me of the situation with payware scenarios in TS classic. Why pay for a scenario (or a scenario pack) when you can just as good - if not, better - scenarios for free?
The passengers that want to get off at a request stop can press a button "Request Stop" in the carriages. This will illuminate a button (marked "H") in the cab of the Loco.
One thing I expect from a new Swiss route (if they decide to make one) is a severe punishment for being late, since Swiss trains in real life are very punctual. Same goes for Japan. Of course, they have to make proper timetables for this to work.
I think you should have also mentioned awful physics of the locomotive. The loco's acceleration is totally unrealistic because the loco doesn't have inertia. It's a simple script that accelerates you to 5 km/h for about 3-4 seconds ignoring the weight of the cars and even reverse speed (!) If you drive backward. E.g. your train moves backward at 20 km/h than you put the reverse handle to the forward and set the controller to the 0.5 position. Your train instantly speeds up from -20 km/h to +5 km/h. A funny thing is the cars have adequate physics, so, they derail and the game is over. And TSW is a train simulator... I believe DTG has to check up at least basic physics of trains in the 3rd party DLCs.
I also think that it's annoying. Thsi also isn't just the Problem on Arosa line the same thng also appears in the KISS EMUs on the S-Bahn Zentralschweitz (that I regret and also wouldn't recommend buying unless there is a huge discount or you REALLY want a line with ETCS).
@@DC4260ProductionsThat too, but I still like to run a service on that line from Time to time even with the short length, no variety of rolling stock and the short time to cover the route. It kind of feels like a worse version of the Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr Add-Onn. By the way the destenation boards are the same as on the german routes. I don't know how accurate that is as i have not been to switzerland but I think it's unlikely that the SBB uses them.
Stunning line this (the real one). The stations and fittings (even the seats) look good here. Yes a shame no Allegra and more freight wagons, which are quite common on the RhB as the Ge 4/4ii are very rare on this line now (weekend snow specials only in winter) and odd to see the panorama wagon in winter! Passengers press a 'halt auf verlangen' button at the end of each carriage (or at the stations).
In regards to rolling stock, it is not really viable for a small team like rivet to create multiple types of rolling stock. It's already a ton of work to make 1, so expecting 2 and a bunch of other freight wagons and coaches to make it like tsc is unrealistic. This route is interesting and unique but the sounds and physics and general slowness of patches and lack of communication by rivet are the main reasons I don't like playing. Their recent update to arosa line didn't actually include all of them and I posted it on forums and they have only acknowledged it
The route I most regret buying! I had the chance to ride on the real Arosa Line a few weeks back and this rendition is truly disappointing in every way…
It’s not surprising not forgetting 2 years on the crap 150/2 nothing like a sprinter still broken and is trash at side of midland mainline class 158 by skyhook
When someone woants to drive the Arosa Line in any Train Sim: then that for Train Simulator Classic. Fare better created than this TSW-version. Overall: Rivet Games and TSW - until now not a very good combination
I find it extremely hilarious that Skyhook and Dovetail will go out of there way to create re-skins for locomotives behind a pay wall, while you can just get them for free in the creators club.
Your analogy reminds me of the situation with payware scenarios in TS classic. Why pay for a scenario (or a scenario pack) when you can just as good - if not, better - scenarios for free?
Let's add the fact that you can CREATE scenarios in TSC
The passengers that want to get off at a request stop can press a button "Request Stop" in the carriages. This will illuminate a button (marked "H") in the cab of the Loco.
One thing I expect from a new Swiss route (if they decide to make one) is a severe punishment for being late, since Swiss trains in real life are very punctual. Same goes for Japan. Of course, they have to make proper timetables for this to work.
I think you should have also mentioned awful physics of the locomotive. The loco's acceleration is totally unrealistic because the loco doesn't have inertia. It's a simple script that accelerates you to 5 km/h for about 3-4 seconds ignoring the weight of the cars and even reverse speed (!) If you drive backward. E.g. your train moves backward at 20 km/h than you put the reverse handle to the forward and set the controller to the 0.5 position. Your train instantly speeds up from -20 km/h to +5 km/h. A funny thing is the cars have adequate physics, so, they derail and the game is over. And TSW is a train simulator... I believe DTG has to check up at least basic physics of trains in the 3rd party DLCs.
I wasn't aware of how bad the physics are. Dovetail needs to have better quality control, especially where the 3rd party stuff is concerned.
I hate how the rivet logo is everywhere
That's something I forgot to mention, but I agree. It's annoying to see their branding all throughout the coaches.
@@DC4260Productions True and the stands at stations with the snow globes
I also think that it's annoying. Thsi also isn't just the Problem on Arosa line the same thng also appears in the KISS EMUs on the S-Bahn Zentralschweitz (that I regret and also wouldn't recommend buying unless there is a huge discount or you REALLY want a line with ETCS).
I refuse to buy S-Bahn Zentralschweiz for one simple reason; at a measly 16 miles long, it's far too short.
@@DC4260ProductionsThat too, but I still like to run a service on that line from Time to time even with the short length, no variety of rolling stock and the short time to cover the route. It kind of feels like a worse version of the Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr Add-Onn. By the way the destenation boards are the same as on the german routes. I don't know how accurate that is as i have not been to switzerland but I think it's unlikely that the SBB uses them.
The way you uncouple to switch ends is accurate. Personally I've never seen cab cars beeing used in the line
Stunning line this (the real one). The stations and fittings (even the seats) look good here. Yes a shame no Allegra and more freight wagons, which are quite common on the RhB as the Ge 4/4ii are very rare on this line now (weekend snow specials only in winter) and odd to see the panorama wagon in winter! Passengers press a 'halt auf verlangen' button at the end of each carriage (or at the stations).
I never bought this route because of it only including 1 train and the terrible distant scenery. It’s one of the worst routes in tsw
In regards to rolling stock, it is not really viable for a small team like rivet to create multiple types of rolling stock. It's already a ton of work to make 1, so expecting 2 and a bunch of other freight wagons and coaches to make it like tsc is unrealistic.
This route is interesting and unique but the sounds and physics and general slowness of patches and lack of communication by rivet are the main reasons I don't like playing. Their recent update to arosa line didn't actually include all of them and I posted it on forums and they have only acknowledged it
2:25 Why does that whistle sound like my sister?
I don’t know
The route I most regret buying!
I had the chance to ride on the real Arosa Line a few weeks back and this rendition is truly disappointing in every way…
At this the TS Classic scenery is as good if not even better than the Rivet Games versoin
It’s not surprising not forgetting 2 years on the crap 150/2 nothing like a sprinter still broken and is trash at side of midland mainline class 158 by skyhook
15:15 womp womp rivet are making bernina line , it doesnt even go all the way to st. Moritz
When someone woants to drive the Arosa Line in any Train Sim: then that for Train Simulator Classic. Fare better created than this TSW-version. Overall: Rivet Games and TSW - until now not a very good combination
I wanna refund this route and get the benialine instead
One of the worst routes alongside S(hort) Bahn Verypricee
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That doesn't seem great value honestly.