Melee TAS : Luigi is Viable

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • just a simple TAS of Luigi hard punishing a few characters.

Komentáře • 172

  • @TalonsII
    @TalonsII Před rokem +369

    Hardest part about getting better at Luigi on slippi is getting people to not leave the match the moment they notice you’re playing luigi.

    • @sycophant8470
      @sycophant8470 Před rokem +27

      He is one of the only characters with literally nothing fun about the matchup.

    • @cowboyoctopus2738
      @cowboyoctopus2738 Před rokem +74

      @@sycophant8470 not true
      the yiipeee is very funny

    • @thanks_605
      @thanks_605 Před rokem +28

      @@sycophant8470 Like puff. Or falco. Or fox, marth, shiek,

    • @mutedoesathing6535
      @mutedoesathing6535 Před rokem +20

      @@sycophant8470 puff, Marth, fox, sheik, any top tier. You’re talking pure copium

    • @sycophant8470
      @sycophant8470 Před rokem +1

      @@mutedoesathing6535 you are the one huffing copium man if you don't like all the top tier matchups play another fucking game.

  • @samesu766white7
    @samesu766white7 Před rokem +161

    The last stock of the first game truly goes to show how powerful Luigi is. That zero to death was godlike.

    • @castleboat6472
      @castleboat6472 Před rokem +10

      Reading this then watching was a treat. 😂

    • @palkia9063
      @palkia9063 Před rokem +10

      Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing!!??

    • @Sanncheztv
      @Sanncheztv Před rokem +2

      You mean "TAZLIKE"🤔

  • @Magibatproductions
    @Magibatproductions Před rokem +31

    I just realized Luigi's voice is just Mario's voice pitched up

  • @AntonErgo
    @AntonErgo Před rokem +71

    Luigi would certainly be viable if side B was always a misfire.

    • @Ouvii
      @Ouvii Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah, just l2RNG manip

  • @Monikfrun
    @Monikfrun Před rokem +61

    That chain grab on falco had to have been result of some unresolved trauma or something. That poor bird

  • @Bonk12381
    @Bonk12381 Před rokem +203

    Luigi always was viable.

  • @rowrow_
    @rowrow_ Před rokem +32

    This video singlehandedly inspired me to learn luigi

  • @Demopugz
    @Demopugz Před rokem +32

    As a Luigi main, I freaking love this!

  • @DubYuhGChoppa
    @DubYuhGChoppa Před rokem +14

    When you realize the biggest competition to TAS "players" is blast zone damage

  • @factandsuspicionpodcast2727

    Looks like my Luigi.
    At least the character model does . . .

  • @andrewwebb624
    @andrewwebb624 Před rokem +54

    Yo this tas made me actually think about Luigi's dash dance, Luigi has a really weird property in that his initial dash is the same as his run speed, he starts at full speed. This is a pretty good property it makes his dash dance pretty easy to use imo and it actually has pretty good range, a little longer than sheiks I think. Plus the Uber long wavedash makes me feel like Luigi could mix both of those movement options well. I don't see most weejs use his dash dance often

    • @fendour_
      @fendour_ Před rokem +5

      Watch mad tyro. He implements a lit of dash dances into his luigi movement

    • @pix9087
      @pix9087 Před rokem

      The initial frames when turning around have horrible hitboxes.
      Sometimes dashing away will get you hit

    • @noobtuber10
      @noobtuber10 Před rokem

      With grabs it makes for some insane regrab stuff

  • @jaxmyers2094
    @jaxmyers2094 Před rokem +4

    as a luigi main, this is how i will always see luigi. even if its not in melee and some other mario game, it will always make me think of him like this.

  • @redbull0300
    @redbull0300 Před rokem +7

    I feel like that grab chain against falco was personal. Fucking up all the netplay falcos you cant beat.

  • @IanZWhite00
    @IanZWhite00 Před rokem +6

    5:20 internet arguments with people who just say “no u”

  • @nofuture4483
    @nofuture4483 Před rokem +8

    2030 eddy mexico

  • @BalanceHeroSMT
    @BalanceHeroSMT Před dnem

    The Year of Luigi is every year.

  • @duck___e
    @duck___e Před rokem +53

    i think this video proves that luigi could most certainly be viable, he just has to be developed a lot more and it’s frustrating that people don’t really care to develop luigi because mid tier. (though i’m not one my self) more luigi mains please he has great potential. (even if he is argued to be viable)

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem +21

      Luigi main right here 😎. I see you TAS, thats tight

    • @ParadoxBoxx
      @ParadoxBoxx Před rokem +10

      The best luigi at the moment is definitely eddy mexico but i don't think he's really pushing the character but rather carrying with fundamentals and hard reads. if you want to see the players developing him though, check out Mad Tyro and Jah Ridin'. They have a lot of potential.

    • @illustrious-jaco
      @illustrious-jaco Před rokem +2

      i will carry the luigi torch

    • @timoijas5316
      @timoijas5316 Před rokem

      Nah what does luigi actually approach with? For example against sheik? He has good stuff but he can't be aggressive in some matchups or he'll lose straight away.

    • @ParadoxBoxx
      @ParadoxBoxx Před rokem

      @@timoijas5316 sheik is (in my option) Luigi’s best top tier matchup. they both edge guard each other really hard. in neutral a lot of it comes down playing around her shield with f tilt which is an amazing move. not to mention he has a better combo game on her early on than she does Luigi.

  • @MimickFox
    @MimickFox Před rokem +3

    That little nudge kick on Marth's 3rd Stock 🤣

  • @Kingko243
    @Kingko243 Před rokem +6

    Luigi's is viable if you know what you're doing and clearly this man knows what he's doing

    • @littlemisseevee2309
      @littlemisseevee2309 Před rokem

      I mean its easier in tas

    • @palkia9063
      @palkia9063 Před rokem +9

      @@littlemisseevee2309 Stop undermining TAS. He’s held so many records, you don’t understand.

    • @littlemisseevee2309
      @littlemisseevee2309 Před rokem +1

      @@palkia9063 what?

    • @palkia9063
      @palkia9063 Před rokem +2

      @@littlemisseevee2309 YOU HEARD ME

    • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
      @user-fe8gx3ie5v Před rokem +1

      @@palkia9063 Thank you for explaining this to the f*rry, mighty Palkia.

  • @cesita875
    @cesita875 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Nobody:
    Luigi Wins by doing absolutely everything: 0:04

  • @ethanpritt542
    @ethanpritt542 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is art!

  • @andrescube64
    @andrescube64 Před rokem +4

    Luigi always has been viable, he’s to cracked

  • @andrewprahst2529
    @andrewprahst2529 Před rokem +4

    Luigi couldn't do that against a skilled Roy

  • @powerpoyopaint
    @powerpoyopaint Před rokem +9

    luigi be like

  • @Sly_Maverick_31
    @Sly_Maverick_31 Před rokem +3

    The Luigi Dream

  • @nicolasn12
    @nicolasn12 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Always has been. Anyway can you do Kirby next?
    also: 2:11 "So pointless"

  • @eathonchaney4531
    @eathonchaney4531 Před rokem

    As a Spacies player, I think if I was ever one the receiving end of the absolutely DISRESPECT of this Luigi I would permanently retire

  • @ThatGuyWhoLovesMeTV
    @ThatGuyWhoLovesMeTV Před rokem +1

    Luigi sounds like my cat Michael

  • @peterbro2
    @peterbro2 Před rokem

    Uptilt is so sexy. His nair is legit an amazing move, and so is his dair.... And so is his downsmash. And fair.

  • @dylanmuller2611
    @dylanmuller2611 Před rokem

    THE MOONWALK UP+B IS SO FUCKIN PROPER LMAO

  • @chargemankenia
    @chargemankenia Před rokem +1

    Luigi is super cool in melee, he's literally a troll character in the Game, just watch that Fox Match!

  • @zenithdude123
    @zenithdude123 Před rokem +1

    luigi destroys all

  • @Claptain_Planet
    @Claptain_Planet Před 8 měsíci

    I would need intense therapy after facing this Luigi

  • @vinsanity3510
    @vinsanity3510 Před 8 měsíci

    That Luigi went full hulk/broly

  • @Hyperion856
    @Hyperion856 Před rokem +2

    as horrible as that chain grab on falco looks it wouldnt be very easy to nail that many lol.

  • @wavyboi
    @wavyboi Před 10 měsíci

    there's actually some stuff in here that can be used for weeji mains

  • @somebody_somewhere
    @somebody_somewhere Před rokem

    Absolutely terrifying, have a nice day

  • @Zen-rl5pv
    @Zen-rl5pv Před rokem

    Ngl that went pretty hard, luigi is legit

  • @rocks6324
    @rocks6324 Před rokem

    This is every Luigi main's dream

  • @squintzrules7326
    @squintzrules7326 Před rokem +1

    see, if the Luigi had simply been any Fox instead Roy would have won that.

  • @dexenationgracey1979
    @dexenationgracey1979 Před rokem +1

    This isn't even Abate's final form.

  • @frogturtle
    @frogturtle Před rokem

    Luigi wins by doing absolutely everything

  • @ethanpritt542
    @ethanpritt542 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Where did he get that 1% from? Pollution?

  • @undeadmatrix4
    @undeadmatrix4 Před rokem

    Luigi taunt edge guard is fucking nutty

  • @cherryblossomtherum5260
    @cherryblossomtherum5260 Před 5 měsíci

    1:56 YIPE-

  • @doeg9369
    @doeg9369 Před rokem

    Bro Luigi is SS plus Tier in my book always

  • @masterquest91
    @masterquest91 Před rokem

    This was so satisfying

  • @aznphate
    @aznphate Před rokem +5

    Tas can honestly make any character look viable. Also have to keep in mind that the cpu isn’t DI-ing (not that it would matter against a tas) but something a real person would have to deal with making combos infinitely harder.

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem +11

      20XX mod CPUs do DI and SDI, that’s part of why it was chosen for this

    • @peterbro2
      @peterbro2 Před rokem +2

      Falco went back and forth all over the stage during the downthrow destruction phase. You can see it trying to do hard and slight DI to get out.

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector Před rokem +2

    I will train to get to this level

  • @Beeeeevi
    @Beeeeevi Před rokem

    luigi wins by doing absolutely everything

  • @linebeck1381
    @linebeck1381 Před 10 měsíci

    A skilled Luigi can beat any Roy.

  • @scottjolteon9033
    @scottjolteon9033 Před rokem +2

    isn't that just jah ridin playing?

  • @evelynbatz2833
    @evelynbatz2833 Před rokem +1

    Háganle el combo 0 to death que tiene en smahs ultimate.

  • @Ivanhoenn
    @Ivanhoenn Před rokem

    You're telling me this ISN'T Eddy Mexico?

  • @phike3390
    @phike3390 Před rokem

    Standmaster: Abate
    Standname: 1in7

  • @joemanginaa
    @joemanginaa Před rokem

    CPU with the Homie DI

  • @smew1786
    @smew1786 Před rokem

    just a causual chaingrab to 300+. no biggy.

  • @galaxian23
    @galaxian23 Před rokem +1

    dear god 3:07

  • @ohcomeon1111
    @ohcomeon1111 Před rokem +1

    How does TAS work?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem

      I have a tutorial that kinda shows it czcams.com/video/9TdgQeDO6dM/video.html
      But usually, you have an emulator record inputs, you play the game in slow motion or 1 frame at a time, and you try sections over and over until you get it the way you want.

    • @ohcomeon1111
      @ohcomeon1111 Před rokem

      @@chunk0354 thanks

  • @TheMr.Wichis64
    @TheMr.Wichis64 Před 2 lety +2

    Qué épico

  • @BrunoDGames
    @BrunoDGames Před rokem +1

    slowest luigi player in ohio

  • @creativemusicchannelplaceh8207

    This an Abate or Eddy combo video??

  • @peterbro2
    @peterbro2 Před rokem

    question: under what circumstances is nair up b a true combo?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem

      On fast fallers, it's a fairly easy combo. At around 100% you can hit a fast faller with a late nair which will send them just slightly up, then L cancel the landing, jump and Up B. Not sure if it works on other character types, but its not too difficult on fast fallers

  • @goodasdead4303
    @goodasdead4303 Před rokem

    FINALLY I HAVE EVIDENCE MY FRIEND USED TO BULLY ME WITH THIS EXACT BULLSHIT AND ALL OF THAT 0 FRAME BS PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH I STOPPED PLAYING SMASH

  • @LordFartamor
    @LordFartamor Před rokem

    VeryPog

  • @Sanncheztv
    @Sanncheztv Před rokem

    YIPIEEEEEEE

  • @gigiratliff5801
    @gigiratliff5801 Před rokem

    Yippeeeeee

  • @harrisonfast3278
    @harrisonfast3278 Před rokem

    🔥

  • @kssb9050
    @kssb9050 Před 3 měsíci

    How is misfire so consistant?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I just did side b, and if it didn’t work I waited another frame before trying it. So really it’s just luck but you keep trying on different frames until you get a favorable outcome.

  • @gracieulmer4936
    @gracieulmer4936 Před 4 měsíci

    it’s 1:25 for me lmaoooo

  • @scythea428
    @scythea428 Před rokem +1

    1:24

  • @slavtrooper9566
    @slavtrooper9566 Před rokem

    Poggers

  • @zombies4evadude24
    @zombies4evadude24 Před 2 lety +3

    0:30 😂😂
    2:28 5:31
    Were those even necessary? 😅
    2:46 How did he take damage? 🤔

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před 2 lety

      2:28 5:31 imo… ye 😎
      You slowly take damage from the blast zone if you are near it

  • @Pyrodiac
    @Pyrodiac Před rokem

    Very cool, TAS but showing a TAS of a character and then saying said character is viable doesn't make sense. It was against a CPU no less. I think.

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem

      It's just the naming scheme im goin with for all of these

  • @tillerlol
    @tillerlol Před rokem +1

    skill issue

  • @marcusjackson3053
    @marcusjackson3053 Před rokem

    how?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem +5

      Playing the game one frame at a time and redoing sections over and over until it works good

  • @nuts_fattening
    @nuts_fattening Před rokem

    "Here's a TAS video showing why this melee character is viable"
    I hope you realize the irony in that

  • @IAm-zo1bo
    @IAm-zo1bo Před rokem

    Non tas fox kills faster

  • @Mario2980
    @Mario2980 Před rokem

    Wack

  • @robmellor6618
    @robmellor6618 Před 2 lety

    ᴘʀᴏᴍᴏsᴍ

  • @mystraunt2705
    @mystraunt2705 Před rokem

    If this is the best luigi can do then he is a garbage character and will never win a major

    • @dontcaremate
      @dontcaremate Před 7 měsíci +1

      bruh why so mad 💀

    • @mystraunt2705
      @mystraunt2705 Před 7 měsíci

      @dontcaremate lol i dont even remember writing this comment. Must have been having a bad day

    • @dontcaremate
      @dontcaremate Před 7 měsíci

      @@mystraunt2705 lmao fair, no need to do my boy luigi like that

  • @dylanreed2581
    @dylanreed2581 Před rokem +2

    ive been trying to learn luigi for a bit but wavedashing always messes me up, any tips on how to get more consistant wavedashes?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem +4

      What happens when you try to do em? My recommendation is to just do a TON of wavedashes in practice, and I mean a lot.
      That being said, here's a troubleshooting guide on what causes each of these
      Rolling - hit the trigger too soon
      jumping - hit the trigger before
      Shielding during the wavedash - held the trigger too long

    • @dylanreed2581
      @dylanreed2581 Před rokem +1

      @@chunk0354 thanks! usually i jump or even air dodge but after trying some more i think i got it down, thanks!

  • @anacc9261
    @anacc9261 Před rokem

    Did smash players learn about wave dashing from TAS ?

    • @chunk0354
      @chunk0354  Před rokem +1

      Nah, I believe it was found only a few months after the game's release. Was posted about in a Japanese forum and Sakurai himself responded to said post that he was aware of it

    • @anacc9261
      @anacc9261 Před rokem

      @@chunk0354 wow. Gamers found the most viable move in melee history in only a couple months

    • @UnBR0k3enAngel
      @UnBR0k3enAngel Před rokem

      @@anacc9261 I mean...wavedash is bananas and all, but Meele didn't get really sexy until the community learned about L-cancel.

  • @RodriMartii
    @RodriMartii Před rokem

    1:39