Confederate Dance Revolver
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
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The Confederate States of America didn't have very much capacity for manufacturing small arms, and was happy to purchase guns from anyone who could make them. Among others who got into the gun-making business during the Civil War were the Dance brothers of Texas. They only managed to produce between 325 and 500 guns during the war, but they did have a formal contract from the CSA and their pistols are a bit more distinctive than most Confederate arms.
The title gave me the impression that this is a piece you'd bring to prom in Texas.
+IrrelevantNL I thought it was going to be a dress piece for military gatherings or celebrations, good to know I wasn't the only one who was confused.
I thought you shoot between the feet of people to make them dance.
"I am wearing this hat because Texas" -Ian, 2015
It's backwards
@@rigramindio I wasn't sure on that and I watched the whole video, hoping my first impression was wrong. He's from Tucson AZ. He should know better. That said..... Geronimo had a fancy Mexican holster and belt that carried a Dance navy-caliber revolver. I'm willing to bet he didn't pick it up at the factory.
Ian, you're definitely on to something here. More themed hats please.
He's already done that.
And continues to today. Oh, if you had known what you were asking for four years ago. 🤔😁
This comment has aged like wine.
I was just in the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame & Museum yesterday and saw the two Dance & Brothers revolvers. They had both the .44 and .36 version. Oh and the .44 also had the star on the right side of the grip.
"...because Texas."
Nearly choked on my drink there, haha
I am a Texan and I approve of this video.
you're a bad texan, that hats backwards..
+Nick Miller that's still good for an Arizonan. ;)
+Nick Miller He's sick of people up his backside.
Josh Callejas lol!!!
I am a Georgian and Confederate Sympathizer and I approve this message
I have to wonder if my grandmother's grandfather carried one in the war, he was a Sargent in the 29th Texas Cavalry(CSA), he was also half Choctaw.
I’d imagine the lack of recoil frame would make it a lot easier to cap
Thanks for making this. I’m from Columbia, TX and have never seen the gun they made. Read the TX Historical Marker for years.
Ian .... Please keep up your mission of gathering information. Record this stuff for future generations!Thanks again for another lesson in firearms history.
I've always loved civil war cap and ball revolvers.
Forgotten Weapons is by far my favorite channel on YT. Keep up the great work Ian.
My dissappointment when I realized this is not actually a revolver for dancing is slightly offset by Ian wearing one of his fabulous hats.
"I'm wearing a big hat for this video because Texas." As if there were any other reason to wear a big hat.
J.H. Dance & Brothers Company. Excellent Rebel revolver.
"I'm Sheriff Beaufort T. Justice...of Texas!!!!!"
my native american name is dances with revolvers
God bless you.
Mine is, 'Forgets To Wipe'.
Mine is Dances with hoes
The star and the good condition makes me think it was presented to someone important
I watched the "because Texas" part, like, 5 times. I find it hilarious and I don't know why.
I'm beginning to think you just sleep at the auction houses with interesting stuff...
+Sen Kanashimi A possibility.
+Sen Kanashimi
Ian is secretly considered to be a property of local action houses cartel. :-D
After this auction J.D.Julia will just pack him into a box filled with polystyren beads and books to send him to R I auction house. There Ian is unpacked, they change his clothes and let him free to make some more videos. Neverending cycle of making videos and reading in tight packed box..What a life! :-D
***** Beautiful.
+Vojtěch “Mortis” Ptáček ^^yes just yes^^
Best watch out. They will sell him to a collector.
"These guns saw hard use from the 1860's"..Yeah, I wonder why??
Ian, I really really really like your hat.
Nice meme!
+Kristofer Smith Haha 😀
+BluescreenBandit It would look even better if he wasn't wearing it backwards.
I'm pretty sure it's a Stetson Open Road. A great hat
+S Hartman You beat me to it.
What a great looking revolver, honest patna with an interesting history. Love the Texas star in the grip as well.
''Hey Mister, I like the way you were that hat'' Ned Beatty, Deliverance
Because Texas!
Thanks for sharing all this information on forgotten guns keep it up you got my vote.
Funny, but when I saw "Dance Revolver" I just assumed that was like a barbecue gun. You know, "I'm going to the barn dance, where is my fancy gun with the star on it."
+Gun Sense (drmaudio) You have a fancy gun just to take to barbecues?
Dylan Greene No, but wearing your fanciest or most impressive gun to a barbecue is a tradition is some parts.
"I'm wearing a big hat today because Texas." Ian - 2015
i'll bet that revolver once belonged to a legit badass from Texas & if it could speak would tell some badass stories!
1dabirdman I bet it smacked quite a few mules between the eyes.
I got the pietta replica of it, looks great, thanks for sharing this pièce of history.
"...because texas." Haha, love it! I wish i lived in texas but PAs laws are JUST good enough for me.
IAN. THAT HAT IS OK BACKWARDS. IAN. STAHP.
Enjoy your Videos Ian! Keep it up!
I have a Pietta brass framed 1851 Colt .44 cal. I know only the South produced complete brass frames but I thought they were all 37cal. Now I know some were .44. which makes my gun just a bit closer to the real thing.
"...Because Texas." 10/10
Oh.. I like your Cattle Buyers Hat.
Stetson Open Road, classic for any time and place, but yeah.... it's for stock sellers, not stockmen. My dad calls them something else. It has to do with sheep, and isn't complimentary.
That's a great hat. Keep on doing what your doing Ian.
7 years late .. I bought a pietta Dance two weeks ago
I was expecting Ian to be line dancing in this video.
Dance yankee, dance!
Interesting. Pietta has made a replica of this revolver, and a few years back, I purchased one. I found that it handled much like a Colt. The only thing is, that with the lack of recoil shields, that you must be certain that the percussion caps are on snug or they will fall off. Here's a link to a photo of Geronimo with a Dance revolver tucked in his belt.
www.littlegun.info/arme%20americaine/revolver%20confedere/revolver%20confedere%20dance-06.jpg
So he _did_ have a Dance revolver! That I wasn't sure about, couldn't find that photo.
Damn, these videos are too interesting! I'm not even into guns (I live in Sweden, guns are more or less banned unless you have quite extensive hunting licences) but I'm enjoying these videos more than anything I think I've ever watched! Awesome narration, and just enough information to keep you interested. Great job; keep it up!
You need to take a trip over here to the states then. Whatever you do. Do not go to Knob Cree Kentucky .
At this point i feel like you are just packed into a box with a nice book after every round of videos and shipped off to some other auction house i fear the day when the Ian model becomes outdated
Ian, is the star silver? Could it be some Texas sherif or Texas Ranger used it? It can be a nice story to the gun: made for confederates and used by a man of the war. ;)
+Pprokop87 I believe it is.
I wonder if someone can track back history of this gun. It would be nice to see it on the wall or over fireplace with a desription plate. It was made in number far less than a 1000 and has a silver star of Texas. One hell of a item.
The crazy Weaponcrafter old silver gets black if you leave it on the air or in the ground. if it was cleaned before the shot it would look like it looks. all metal parts looks like the gun was cleaned few days before the shot, after about a 50 or more years in the junkbox.
The crazy Weaponcrafter well, patina is worth a shit, so nobody bothers with it. and when the item is all dirty and rusted you can use it as a hammer. to tell the real price you have to clean and oil it (with old iron and steel). old metals like iron and steel tends to rust fast if un-used, not cleaned and oiled. yes, oil protects it from rust. and if its a "US Civil War" time guns, the steel is so bad, that the marks will remain intil it gets melted again.
Nice. Diggin your hat too brother!
There’s a great picture with Geronimo holding a Dance brothers revolver
Like the hat Ian! Keep up the great work.
That sure would be a nice pistol to own. My own guess as to the absence of the blowback tabs is as a cost saving measure. Thanks,
I have a Uberti Leech and Rigdon. Good shooter.
There were at least 4 companies making pistols/firearms in Texas during the "C/W". Not counting 1 that moved into Texas from AK when the yanks moved in. js
55 Thousand doll hairs! Holly jeezus that's a lot of money for one pistol.
watching this again after seeing the new Kevin Costner western Horizon feature a pair of cartridge-converted Dance revolvers in Apacheria in 1863... for some reason
Because,
Texas.
That should be a meme.
This is the closet possible historical justification to Pietta's .44 1851s.
Down here in Texas the Dance 44 was a favorite killing weapon of the infamous, Texas, gunman, "Wild Bill" Longley......
I'm a bit late, but Pietta is making repro of this gun.
Spent caps can't get caught on something that is not there.
RIP Texas
I would love to learn the art of making my own designs but I feel I would be ostracised in the UK for even attempting such a thing these days.
Me a Union Soldier takes a captured Dance Revolver chambered for .44 Caliber
Me: "C'mon now dance ye Rebel Prick dance C'mon"
Pretty hat (^.^)
Nice revolver :)
That hat makes you look like a DPS trooper. I'd like to bring that revolver back to Texas, but nothing short of winning the lotto (which I rarely play) would make that possible right now.
Very interesting video...love the local history. Are the Dance brothers any relation to Charles Dance?
Trey Westcot Or Bill Dance the sport fisher
@@wizardofahhhs759 Or Riverdance, the 90s musical meme?
Your hats on backwards there slick.
Gotta have that Texas Star in the grip (even if it is one of a kind)
im using ......becuse texas in everything from now on. wife says why isnt the trash taken out.......because texas honey thats why.
+powderedtoast man -- I enjoyed that too.
+powderedtoast man how did 6 people look at this and understand it? Am I crazy? Did I have a stroke?
+attackzack21 You didn't because I didn't.
thanks Ian. I'd like to see you shoot an original P53 Enfield for accuracy. And other Civil War rifles. Real ones, not reproductions.
Just a couple of corrections... It's Columbus, TX..... not Columbia, TX... and, there is no Anderson, TX (there is but it's not the same).... It's Anderson Mill (unless I am greatly mistaken) about 30 miles up the Colorado River on what is now Lake Travis. The old mill is still there. It was for grinding the ingredients for gunpowder during the Civil War and later converted to grain.
The factory was indeed in Anderson, Texas located in Grimes County. I live there and there is a historical marker that marks the spot where the factory was located.
This .44 caliber revolver was manufactured by the Dance Brothers in Columbia, Texas, as part of a larger effort by Texas gun makers to provide firearms for Confederate troops during the Civil War.
The brothers James Henry, George Perry, David Etheldred and Isaac Claudius Dance joined their cousin Harrison Perry Dance to form the J.H. Dance & Bros company, located in the city of Columbia, Texas, which was situated on the banks of the Brazos river near Houston and Galveston.
@@vanessaburzynski6738 Thanks for all those informations.
Dance Dance Revolution
This gun was made for dancing!
Dance company.... Because guns are art
Nice gun !
"Because Texas"
I like your hat, Ian.
+Forgotten Weapons
Hey Ian, can you sniff around and see if you can find a Russian Pistol called the *OTs-27 Berdysh* or the "оц-27 бердыш"
I'm super fascinated by it, it was one of those guns that couldn't win the trails!
😐 I'm to poor to bid on it even if it was a current video.
😁 However it was neat to see in even video form and I love the channel. 😉 So I'm not even bothered by how you think "Brazos" is pronounced. 😂🤣😂
Joking you have top notch content and knowledge and it's both appreciated and respectable. 😊👍
Don’t ever disrespect me with that hat
nice hat
Wait a second, pardner. Didn't you, in another video, speak at length about the Tucker & Sharrard Texas revolver? So.....clearly Dance was NOT the only revolver manufacturer in Texas during the Civil War.
Your hat is on backwards.
Just fyi for any future wear.
Is it true the .44 calibre Dance was the favoured weapon of Wild Bill Longley???
as a Texan I really want this gub
Interesting.
The pure white background is killing your videos. Any chance you can carry a light blue or light gray (about 18%, see info on 18% photo cards) table cloth with you when you go to film these? Many of your older videos have a nice blue background and even some nice maroon clothes. That was really helpful.
The Rebs knew good guns and good horses !
Hats make the man. Lol
Because Texas. 'Murica!
Is the "Revolver Dance" that stereotypical "cowboy jumping on one foot or the other shooting dual pistols into the air shouting yee-haw or tarnation" phenomenon?
no, the dancing is the one who is getting shot by another and he's dancing to avoid getting hit :D
55k wow
CSA
Your hat looks like it is on backwards, to me that is.......Anyways thanks for the info.
Were there any 8 " barrel models? Or only 7,5?
Is this the new elite M1 Irons variant?
Are the 44 and 36 the same size frame/barrel or is the 36 smaller. ?
Colt Dragoon third👍
i liked this video because... texas
I think your hats on backwards son.
Did you say "the Great State of Texas"? To be honest, I've never been in Texas, but heard a lot about this state of freedom-loving people of "Lonely Star" banner!
By the way: Ian, you look a bit different in this "cowboy" hat...
1:03 burp!