The NBA Has Never Been So Wrong About Josh Giddey | OKC Thunder 2024 NBA Playoffs Top Seed
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The NBA Playoff seedings are unpredictable but the OKC Thunder are definitely one of the more exciting teams to emerge into NBA championship contention this season. While the Thunder are headlined by MVP candidate Shai Gilgeous-Alexander as well 2nd year future star Jalen Williams, and Rookie of the Year contender Chet Holmgren, there is another special young player in Oklahoma City and that is Australian hybrid guard Josh Giddey. The OKC Thunder rebuild has already been looking like a huge success under Sam Presti and Mark Daigneault and Giddey is definitely one of the best young pieces that Okc has picked alongside their core of Shai, Jalen Williams, Holmgren, Lu Dort, Cason Wallace, without even including OKC’s stockpile of future draft picks.
After facing a lot of issues early in the NBA season, Josh Giddey is now emerging in his 3rd season as part of the Thunder. The question is, can he be part of the OKC Thunder’s core for the long haul? In the playoffs, OKC will be matched up against Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets, Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves, Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks, or even Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns, and also possibly LeBron and the Lakers. Can this young Oklahoma City Thunder squad go far in the NBA postseason?.
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Will Josh Giddey be in OKC for the long haul? 🤔
Will any player anywhere stay with their team? I trust OKC to do what's best for their franchise, whatever that looks like.
He just scored 20/12/7 today against the spurs
IMO they need to focus on 3 & D players... If we could trade Giddy for a player that is more athletic better defender and shooter we would be better off, Focus on keeping Wallace, Wiggins, and Joe as they are perfect fill-ins for SGA/Jdub/Dort. However Giddy at this point isn't really needed and a Jeremy Grant type of 4 is what we need, Lauri would be a dream acquire but not realistic, Dieng developing more would be perfect no trade however I would like to see Presti do some voodoo and get Bobby Portis
Who is this player you talk of dill?
@@Luke-Ryan just stop…🤦♂
Let’s be honest, at the start of the season, he was facing potential criminal charges and constant booing from opposition fans. Now that is over, his play is improving. The talk about getting rid of him is coming from fans and media types, but okc have kept the faith and still given him game time. I’d suggest he is still in their plans going forward.
100% agree. He is still so young and has been away from his family and friends in Australia. It must have been so hard for him but I admire his courage and perseverance in what has been a tough season. He is going to be a major piece of their playoff run this season and beyond!
No he was never or they would have been brought, uninformed BS like this brought the whole thing on him. It was old 3!years ago it’s old news now
I really think he's a talented player, he fits the Sam Presti type because he is multi-skilled. The numbers after 3/1/24 are very encouraging. I think for Josh Giddey to take the next step his deep shots need to improve. As long as he puts in the work I think he can get there. I hope OKC keeps him long term.
He should also get the same treatment from OKC fans
TF! He had 2 points in the game last night vs the Mavs. Not gonna cut it time to move on. From an OKC fan
Love Giddey! He will be key for the Thunder in the playoffs
His play will be key for sure. Either he can maintain his good form, or he’ll be the obvious team weakeness and be a key piece on the bench.
I’m hoping he keeps it up.
I could watch him play all day!!!
Giddy can ball and I hope OKC can keep him. He’s a great piece
Presti can make it happen if he decides to👌
Remember they need to pay many other players. I dont think he’s a priority
Can’t let him go. He’s essential to the team!
No he's not
He’s a big game player
A guy this good at 21 on a steep improvement curve. They would be nuts to trade him.
Keep the team together. They are still rising with no ceiling in sight
Because Giddy entered the NBA younger than most, people tend to forget that he is actually younger than Jalen and Chet.
But about a month ago when all the NBA commentators and CZcams people were obsessed with OKC not rebounding well, everyone just wanted to pretend like 21 year old Josh Giddy and Chet Holmgren were at the peak of their NBA careers and couldn't possibly get better at rebounding without the Thunder making a big trade for a traditional big... (meanwhile the Thunder were literally the #1 seed in the West when this was going on)
The last 10 years of NBA media coverage has been obsessed with making trade though. But NBA teams can get better without changing any players at all. Especially if those players are 21 years old. Especially when your team payed out a large amount of money to get the best shooting coach in the NBA.
Trades get you the 2023/2024 Suns...
Developing talent gets you the 2014-2016 Warriors...
He IS the core. 🔥🔥🔥
He’s improved his defence handles and finishing at the rim this year since he’s confidence, he’ll keep on improving in the playoffs and in the off season and be even better next year, he’s a very high iq player and he’s only 21 in the next couple of years he’ll definitely put on more body mass and be even better at miss matches. He’s already very strong for his size snd age
Well done Riro. That was an excellent breakdown and a little about time someone got his case to allow the kid to play. He still got massive growth and knowledge to comr
Thanks man! Giddey definitely hasn't even scratched the surface yet
@@riroballs yeah. The final are coming. This separates the wheat from the chaff. I look forward to your finals breakdown. Good work
Fans were frustrated with him early in the season and I know he lacked confidence for reasons both on and off the court. The Thunder recognized this and I truly believe that one reason Hayward was brought to OKC was to mentor him and overcome these challenges. This is why we have seen big improvements since Hayward arrived. I personally believe he is an incredible talent and the team knows how valuable he is to their success long term.
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The greatest passer I've seen since Magic but the thing I am impressed with the most about G is he has gotten better shooting the layups!!!
hahahahahahah
@@Radowitzki It's funny because it's true!!
I'm a fan of Giddey, but that is crazy talk.
I agree. He reminds me a lot of Magic Johnson sometimes.
True dat, plus Jason Williams.
He just scored 20/12/7 today
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Think of it this way. If okc extend his contract, they are getting a proven 3 yr veteran, and hes still younger than most of the rookies coming out next season.
Facts!
Love Giddey and what he does, great video. Remember that he is still so young after 3 seasons in the NBA, still so much growth at 22yo, which is rare. Whats so good is his selfless attitude, so that he will do anything he needs to in order to help the team. His attack at the rim and ability to draw contact and the foul has gone up massively recently as well. '
All facts! thanks btw man
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GIDDEY IS FIRE!!!!!
Really fire as of late
You can't teach what he does passing. You have it or you don't. He can be magical at times. He's a tall guard. He doesn't need to fix that funky release. It's starts to low and is almost a windup. It gives defenders a chance to pest his shot when they shouldn't be able to. He's a better defender than he's given credit for. If SGA was a shooting guard and not a guard who needs the ball to effect game Giddey could easy lead the NBA in assists. You see passes from him that are just special. Most PGs can't do a bounce pass to save their lives. Giddey does it with ease. He's tall so the skip pass is easy for him. He really doesn't turn it over. He's special with the ball in his hands. He's OKC's best player with the ball. Sadly, he has to be a catch and shoot player. Those are not his strengths. Over the past month or so they've been letting him run the offense a bit and his numbers have gone up at that exact time. Not shocking really. They are letting him play to his strengths not his weakness which is a catch and shoot. It's like the Lakers trying to make Russ a catch and shoot player it's failed. You put Giddey in Boston running the point oh my God. It's all Boston needs really. Most of their very talented score can't handle the ball to save their lives. It's why they lost to GS. You pressure them they turn it over a lot.
This is a great explanation. I’m from Melbourne and follow him closely. He has the potential to be an all star level point guard. His vision, in my opinion is second only to jokic. Imagine him with wemby.. 12 assists a game. It’s just a shame for him that jdub has progressed so quickly. (Not for okc obviously)
All this is true!
I would like to see him dunk more
go and and speak the facts, Riro! keep up the good work and ThunderUp
thanks man!!
Giddy & Hayward Both Performing Well Right Before Playoffs
Facts!
If you watch faithfully OKC the sudden improvement is startling. He is on a new level, a dominant bully who just takes over the game. OKC scary? How about the possibility of having 5 players who can be all-stars as I include Cason? This team is the second coming of the Bill Russell Celtics.
Only SGA has peaked. Like you said...it's scary to think that JDub, Chet, Giddey and Wallace could and should be better next season.
But what if he hasn't peaked...
Not sure how much better he could get, but you never know...
Either way, I hope OKC has pretty much the same roster in 2029. Just let the team develop and play together. @@allanhee
@@1O1O11 It would be a nightmare scenario for the entire league if the other starters all get better AND so does SGA. lol But the more I think about it...I think you're right. I doubt that SGA could better as a scorer, but there's still room to grow as a decision maker and passer.
Great video! Let’s not forget about all the off the court noise from the beginning of the season. This also had a huge effect on Giddey. Opposition crowds have stopped booing him too which has increased his confidence. He will be a major piece for the Thunder moving forward. The main concern I have is how are the Thunder going to afford to keep all their young talent. Especially with all their 1st round picks before 2030.
Thanks a lot man!
He was indeed stressed earlier in the season. He's now relaxed, confident and back on track.
YOU, GO JOSH!!!!!💌. That’s what I say every time he scores. YOU GO JOSH!!!!!!❤️
Giddey dles something that i like to call the assist assist, he makes the initial pass that gets the defense rotating which ends up resulting in someone else getting the assist credit. I think that is something that a lot of fans and media don't notice but the team definitely recognises how important that is.
You do some great analysis bro. Quality over quantity.
Thanks a lot bro. Appreciate it 🙏
I think it may be hard for Giddey to keep improving with OKC. Especially as Jalen Williams keeps improving and handling the ball more. I would like to see him keep improving his touch at the rim when driving to the basket (which he has done recently). Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year.
When Josh accepts the ginobli role it will unlock the okc dynasty
Go Thunder ! They are such a fun team 🏀
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Another good vod.
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What he does for the team cant be replaced❤💪🍻🔥
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Would be crazy to let him go...considering hes going to lead Boomers to gold and win best young player at Olympics this yr 😅🇦🇺
Giddey Up! 💪💪💪
Great objective information.
It’s the off court shit. Dudes realllllly young and in the national spotlight. It’s a stressful place to be in that young, dudes need a good environment to do well at that age
I put it all down to the offcourt drama and trade talk. Once the police investigation cleared him and the trade window closed Giddey was on fire
Excellent video
thanks mate!
The problem with Giddey is that he got a lot of haters.. both in OKC fanbase and outside.. weird situation honestly
Most people don't like pedophiles
Keep playing and improving and they will disappear
He has way more fans then not! Jealousy is a curse! 😂
With Giddey’s play, this sounds more like a “them” problem than a him problem.
Great vid. Hope he exels there.
thanks man!
awesome video, i’ve been telling the haters the same exact thing but no one would understand and found it easier to hate instead. i can see giddey thriving in OKC, but it also might be mutual benefit for both parties if they move on.
thanks man!
I think all the negative attacks were probably a good thing for Giddey . A big kick in the ass that any proffessional sportsman should face . Im so glad he is rising above it and playing much more aggressively . Fuck yeah 😎
He had a good month, but he needs to sustain that longer.
That’s pretty harsh. The bloke was getting mauled by the media and away fans at every opportunity. It is amazing that he kept playing even though he would have been suffering immensely.
another hater proven wrong trying to bury him. There is literally an hour of him diming shit out of a hat, that magic would have a wank over ffs
Even with the addition of Chet and Jdub , Giddey is still the youngest player in the starting five . At 21 he has three seasons of experience and is still improving
Facts!
East, st the beginning of the year he was going through probably the hardest thing he has faced in his life thus far.
His dad Warwick was basically the Dennis Rodman / John Stockton / Jeff Hornacek of the NBL in Australia - so Josh is is built of tough pedigree as well. If it gets rough in the finals - he’ll hold his own and won’t ever back down like Simmons.
Thanks for making this video! The narrative seems that OKC is winning despite him still starting (even with his minutes down) but in reality he still contributes to winning. It‘s as clear as the quote you mentioned here. He was overthinking everything and questioning his abilities and his fit. Let’s face it, the allegations at the beginning were ripping his confidence and in march he found his mojo again accepting what he is and just doing this.
One thing I always noticed about his inside finishing:
He picks his dribble up to early and jumps from too far. He has very little lift to his game and I compare his physical tools to Dirks. Not his game or talent but his ability to attack and finish. At 8:10 you can see him taking an extra dribble to get closer to the rim and is able to finish while using the rim to protect the ball. That’s the key for him as well as adding counter moves when attacking. Counters should be his next priority as he always seems to go for a layup and basically never stops, makes a fake and finishes after letting the defender fly. He is to predictable when just going for a drive and picking the ball up to early for a layup. Now he goes the whole way to the rim more often. If he uses his floater more often, he can fill the gap between closer rim finishes and a few steps outside very well.
To see that he improved his midrange game is excellent and will help him taking that the defender takes him honest in the midrange AND on his drives.
I was and still are skeptical about his fit but when he plays with confidence his shot starts to fall and then everything opens up for him.
Heck he is still 21 and what he had to deal with early in the season was brutal and he will be booed again in the playoffs.
I’m glad he had the season finish he just had just for the sake of getting his mojo back and trust himself again. He truely is a special talent and one of the best passers in the league.
The defensive end is still a different story since at 6‘9“ he has to guard more of 3s and 4s and is physically overmatched when not playing with confidence. He should be more physical and embrace contact defensively more often.
Don’t underestimate his basketball IQ. He can still lift this team going forward and that basically everyone doubted him the whole season and made him the primary trade bait didn’t fit well with me, given the perspective of the whole allegation thing. The whole allegation thing wasn’t talked about enough in terms of impact on his confidence and state of mindset. Aside from him maybe only Dillon Brooks had rougher road games over the course of the season and that made this whole season extremely difficult to handle for him.
The fact that they are tied for the #1 seed after 81 games should also be credited to him and not only Shai, Dub and Chet.
What’s more concerning to me is the fact that OKC seems to have a real gem and imo long term fit in the savior of basketball in Aaron Wiggins while dumping Tre Mann, Micic and more for Hayward who is not impacting the game at all like Wigs does.
Trust this guys despite the narrative that they are too young. Like Presti said, progress is not linear and what Josh had and still has to deal with mentally forged him into a way better player now and that should be respected, even by the Thunder fanbase who were distancing from him early on with the allegations beginning the season.
Can’t wait for the playoffs and hope that everyone stays healthy throughout the final Dallas game!
Presti also said when they get back into the playoffs, they don’t want to be there for an appearance but to arrive and that just happens right now. What a fantastic season, wow!
PS: what were the odds that Chet actually played every game so far this year!? That was a HUGE win for this team.
#Thunderup⚡️
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I'm not reading this 😂
How anyone can even doubt him and his role with OKC is mind boggling. #Giddeyvision #Thunderup Holds a record with Wilt too at Madison 3 triple doubles in a row ffs
Future.. Paul Pierce !!
He's playing the best basketball of his NBA career right before we're heading into the playoffs. 🤷🏻♂️
His best attribute is the one he needs to develop more - his size. He needs to keep attacking the paint and make guards pay for defending him. He can even attack most forwards. He needs to shoot fewer threes and drive even more. That’s just my opinion.
Great passer ever since Manu
Riro, still one of the youngest starters in the league. He still has a little baby far but I assume he won’t next year. The Thunder are freaky, a year away but then.
True man!
I want to see more assertiveness from him
I think he should leave and come to Spurs... would it be a fit?
Yesssiirrr
Rico, I had to add this thought. If one watched the late year development of the kids, in particular Chet, Josh, Jaylin and Cason you’ll notice that not one is 22. And Ousmane is 21. And I’m confident we’ll draft a rotational piece both this year and next year.
Exactly man! That makes the team much much more dangerous
Riro see off-season preseason games and Giddey's shooting from 3 , he was hitting v.high clip then
*asterisk caveat , pressure × NBA regular season defense ...
My theory on Giddey: he is NOT a tap dancer , he seems v.heavy on his feet and not .t.w.t.c.h.y.
Even if you only have to realign yourself 3° or 1° of the 360° turn , receiving ball J-Gidd moves like in Molasses...
2 , remember when Carmelo at Portland I think 2 years back went 9for9 .s.w.i.s.h.e.s. for his shooting , I think he may have had 2 put backs using glass or a lay-up and a put-back so let's call in seven for seven at 100%
This will never be achieved ever again because there is an in-built handicap and restriction when you get a hot-hand and heat-check Kobe level difficulty and defences throw many bodies at you . Remember , we are talking swishes/splashes from 18-24 feet ...
Re:Giddey , yeah yeah yeah I am listening . Re:J-Gidd , have you seen Carmelo's tutorial on the pick-up . 150% intensity rip-the-ball-up-,into-the-shooting-picket-like-James-Harden-ripping-thru-defenders-armspace-to-attempt-to-draw-the-foul ...
J-Gidd at 6'9" shooting pocket2shoulder not as nimble not as light not as twitchy
So work on his legs , and work on his pre shooting launch/shooting pocket ...
He is
Giddey is the perfect 4th piece for this team. If he can continue to improve his jumper it’s going to be a problem. He’s only 21!
Can't agree more. Can't put a cap on his ceiling just yet
Still don’t think he’ll be around long term. They’re gonna have to prioritize JDub and Chet extensions. And the year after extensions start for them is when a new SGA contract would start. And he’s gonna get paid A LOT. So there’s no way they’ll be able to afford to extend him. I’d consider trying to trade him for somebody that potentially fits along the big 3 better while they’re still cheap.
He’s the youngest starter for the OKC and is still only 21yo
facts!
I mean it’s the controversy
I sincerely hope he will be. He's a talented young player who is far too young to give up on. Let's not forget, Kobe Bryant wasn't a 20 PPG scorer until year 4. Steve Nash didn't break out until year 6, and Kyle Lowry wasn't an all-star until he was 29. We want everything microwaved with overnight free shipping these days -- our NBA landscape is very impatient. Players need time to develop, especially if they're dealing with personal issues.
As for the issue of him sleeping with a 17 year old, the age of consent in Oklahoma is 16. And, as I understand, he met her at a club where she used a fake ID to get in.
On top of that, Australia's age of consent is also 16, so even if he did know her age, he likely saw nothing morally sketchy with it in the same way that Americans view sleeping with a woman who's 18. After all, there are plenty of American celebrities who are beloved who've done FAR worse...
He has a stigma attached to him due to his prior charge off the court. This kid is an off grid star.
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21yrs old 4 yrs younger than 2 of 5 okc.
Okc seems to invest large amts of time in his development.
Currently, costs 7 million. So josh fits the moneyball budget.
Hayward 33 million doesn't.
For real!
Personally I see the Thunder looking to move on from him this off-season.
And I think that there is a real possibility that they will think they are getting good value for him at the time of the trade, AND the other team will have an opportunity to make it look like a steal in the long run.
In general I have always thought that the criticism of Giddeys general play has been too harsh, but at the same time that his point guard skills have been overrated - specifically his ball handling (yes he is still young and he’s tall which probably doesn’t help either), even on the Boomers this most recent FIBA tournament I thought he was in the wrong role and simply being asked to do too much.
Just had a win with OKC on 2k24 8/9, 3/3 from 3, 2 rebs for Josh Giddy! 😂 lmao!!
Giddey is perfect to the Bucks team. Giddey to Thanasis ooops.. Giddey to Giannis while D Lillard slides to No 2 position of shooting guard.
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Gifdy play didn't do anything wrong. He's got a little bit better he just got squeezed out by the absolute rise of j-dub. I think the thunder should trade him in the offseason cuz they can't pay him long term because they've got to pay check and jdub next summer. I need to ship him out for a power forward which is what they need a 6-96-10. Power forward who can run the baseline or hit a good solid 15 ft jump shot. Giddy ends up being the team rebound leader about 40 50% of the time because they have to have somebody go get the rebounds. In the last 2 weeks with jdub or SGA out or both giddy has really stepped up and showed what kind of potential he has this is just not his team. He's a good player he's a good teammate just not for this bunch. Because J Williams has crazy long term potential and is a better compliment to sga. And a killer defender
Simple galawan lang pero maotak,dito mo makikita na pwde nman mag laro ng basketball na wala ng marami pang galaw2x ,di mo kailangan na ma ala Irving ka or rose na galwan,otak lang talaga
Do you understand the big leagues? Lmao
Ain't this fella the kiddie fiddler?
He only got 21 minutes last game
Time for Josh to move
As an Aussie I was disgusted with ok players ignoring him
Yeah it may be hard for him to keep improving his game at OKC.
As an 80year old Aussie see him staring in Paris
Would love to see him team up with Wemby in san antonio
Thumbnail referencing allegations and some random Josh slander when content is about his improved play. Okay, whatever it takes to get clicks, right?
Giddy is like a punter, but in the NBA. The only thing he is good at is inbound passing. Platoon him.
It’s crazy how you can have your entire reputation ruined due to a girl lying for clout. Chase money not women.
I think the worry is - how do they pay all these stars? Giddy is great but might be a casualty of the cap.
I think his passing is incredibly overrated it seems like he turns the ball over way too much.
"only" is quite ubiquitous with these guys lmao. your channel blows
I thnk Giddey is lucky he is the same color as the media
Racist bigot
The pale Arab will never be Adamic no matter how 'white' his skin is.
the only reason you even talk about him is because he likes them underage. Without the whole underage story, we wouldnt care. He is a bad shooter and bad defender, He can only work in OKC and even there he is the 4th best player. Not really promising future.
I talk about him because he's one of my favorite players and I believe he's got a ton of room left to grow..in fact, I've been talking about him even he was just about to enter the NBA..with the off-court stuff, he's been proven innocent as well so idk what's up
He was found not guilty. Jealousy is a real thing by the looks. I bet your racist too 😂
Josh Diddy
Wow man amazing so original thats crazy🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Dude, the guy had no idea. He met her in a nightclub... Give the guy a break ffs
Get the facts and a life.
He can contribute on a winning team. IQ player.