Let's Repair! - Xbox 360 Open Tray Error
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2018
- For this episode of Let's Repair! we take a look at a Xbox 360 plagued with the annoying Open Tray error. For anyone who is unaware, this is when the DVD drive for whatever reason will not read any discs and will just say "Open Tray" as opposed to saying there is an error with the media used or showing what game has been loaded. For the most part this error is normally quite easy to fix, and I've had a 100% success rate so far by simply replacing the disc drive's laser and having it up and running again. So why is this episode so long?! Well... See for yourself!
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Great tutorial. Hint for anyone trying themselves dont worry about using solder braid , just use a clean soldering iron and brush it off the circuit board in sweeping motion. takes 2 secs and nice and clean
I did this once with a 360 slim and the screw was holding nicely for about 30 minutes amd in the middle of my test play you could hear the screw pop out and ping around the drive. I ended up using a bigger screw which so far has had no issues
can you give me the size of the screw?
I used a small screw from the inside of the headband of a Gen 1 Turtle Beach 600 Stealth headset (2015) that no longer worked.
I'm so thankful that you and so many other people made videos for this. Watching multiple techniques helped a lot. The hardest part truly is getting the dang case open. It turned out 3 of the back tabs had snapped off making it near impossible to get the back open. After wresting with it for actual hours I finally got it almost there and then just gave it a hard yank and it separated. I hope I never have to open it again :D. Good news is, even with my lack of solder skills, it's not hard to just heat that ball off it pretty much just rolled into my trash can and then I kept applying more heat to make sure it was completely off the contacts and I was nervous after putting it back together (I tested before putting the case back on) but it worked!! Thanks so much!
I've seen like 10 movies now where guys adjust the DVD lazer or replace it but no one has mentioned how the bars that the lazer slides back and forth should be adjusted. The lite-on reader has adjustment screws in 3 places, the fourth corner is not adjustable. Mine was way of in one of the corners.
do you know how to adjust them? i screwed the adjustment up
Thanks for the video. I had the same problem. I tried adjusting the laser resistance with no luck. Then swapped in a new laser and it's as good as new.
Thank you I just restored a modern warfare 2, 360 tonight thanks to your video. New drive belt and laser, good as new.
Woo!
Thanks for the tutorial. Got about 3 xbox 360s that I need to replace the laser.
Success! thank you for this video.
note: my replacement laser did NOT come with a anti-static solder globule. Im assuming that means I have a used / refurb laser. it does have the blue lens as well. but it works and thats all I care about. i spent $8 on the replacement. we'll see how long it lasts.
Damn, hopefully it lasts long enough. I know you can get new lasers for a few dollars less.
How is it a year later?
Same thing happened with mine but it's still not reading disc now it's saying unrecognized disc
I just replaced the laser in a BenQ and I'm still getting the Open Tray error. Sigh....I think I'll have to swap boards or reflash another BenQ with this key if I can extract it.
I have a slim (Corona) exhibiting similar issues. Do you know the laser model I need for that? I may also try adjusting it in the short-term, but if I can find the right part I could order it to put in later.
Thank you for the Video.
I exchanged a few lasers and i Had units with the blue lens and with the grey lens. Most of the lasers with the blue lens doesnt work for me. Did you adjust the Laser with the Blue lens ?
I'm actually learning a lot from your channel. I had an xbox that did the exact same thing yours is doing where i would put in a disc, any disc, and it would constantly say open tray. After a few tries it would work but half the time after that it would say the disc is undreadable, no matter the condition of the disc. I ended up swapping it for my dad's old elite model that he was planning on selling. I had to use a pair of tweezers to turn it on cause the faceplate and touch sensor were f@%$*&!.
I just got a Fat Jasper and Falcon, already have a Trinity, Corona and the last E version. love this system too! I would REALY love to find a brand new Xenon/Zephyr...
I have zephyr, xenon, and jasper.
I had the same problem with the screw. Fortunately, my dad has a car repair shop and found me a thicker screw. It does not tighten to the end and a little this white plastic jumps. But it is screwed very tightly and everything works. If something was wrong one day, I will buy a sled of the drive. And by the way super video and you helped me fix the X360 which lay with 4 years for this reason and thanks.
Do you need a specific type of laser for the Xbox 360 slim or is it the same laser?
Are you planning to show us how to back up 360 games and to burn it like you did with the ps2? your tutorials are very helpful
I did that years ago, all the videos are on my channel.
Someone told me the little board on the new laser has to be swapped with the board on the original laser. Is that true or can I just swap the entire laser as is comes in the box?
I have a broken USB on the front of my Xbox 360 I've got the parts and my system is cracked open because I just did the new laser and it works wonderfully. Now I need to know how to do the USB removal so I don't mess things up any videos for that?
I got the same laser through amazon and as expected the screw kept pinging out whenever I tried closing the tray
Update: I put a little dab of super glue on the screw and in the hole and it held nicely, I recently had to replace the belt for the tray and decided to take it apart and have a little peek and it’s still solid
So I recently got one and the disc drive wasn't opening and when I opened I found two random springs where do they go
Dude, a xbox 360 video in 2018? (now 2019 but whatever~) It's like a Christmas miracle!
Quick question, though. Does the kind of laser you buy matter for the disc drive, cause I don't want to have to worry about incompatibilitys.
Yep. This laser will work on phat BenQ and Lite-on drives.
@@MrMario2011 wow, that was a fast response! Good to know that I have to see what my drive is before starting this. Thanks!
I know this is an older video, but how come no one talks about cleaning the laser lens underneath the top one ? I have fixed several of these consoles ranging from playstation 2 to these x box's simply by cleaning both lens's. Need to cut down some of the cotton on a q tip and flatten the end with a pair of pliers but it will fit between the 2. Moisten (not soaked) with alcohol to clean.
There's two lens on a dvd drive?
When ya said you're "almost paranoid" there, i lol'd, i know those FEELS MAN! :P
thanks for the tutorial. usually i just replace the full drives and get rid of any mechanical problems too but im gonna try this instead. just ordered the lens and the solder wick
Help me please. I have the same Xbox, and it has the same issue. I replaced the disc drive 3 time but the issue continues. Instead of flashing the board I just replace it with the original. This Xbox was a gift back in 2008 so I really wanna get it fixed. Let me know if you can help. Thanks
I have a dvd drive from a jasper motherboard that attempts to read the disc twice before giving up.
If i keep cycling the tray eventually it will recognize that there is a disc and even rip the whole thing reliably to the hard drive. However it only notices the disc in the tray about 10-30% of the time.
I have tweaked the potentiometer twice and it now sits at a value of about 2900 (was at about 4000 at first) and im not going to tweak it any more.
Anybody have any suggestions?
I had the same issue allthough the xbox when it booted up the disc tray would open and think that it was closed and when it was closed it opened right back up and it had a flashing green light indicating that it was opening
Ok, so my 360 is RGH'd and the drive gave out a looooong time ago. Now, I dont really even own any physical games as everything is stored on my HDD so i straight up removed the disc drive. I was wondering, could it fuck up the console over long time use like this or is it just fine ?
Should be fine as long as you keep it as a RGH.
10/10 Very Good Content
Hey MrMario, nice video, glad to see you got the drive working! Bit of a random question, I remember one of your old 360 videos of you being gifted an RGH1.2 (this video: czcams.com/video/wnvYmOIk884/video.html) and I loved the colour changing LED in the centre of the Ring of Light.
I've been looking around and cannot for the life of me find any of those LEDs that I'd like to add for my console. I don't know if you still have that system, but would you be able to take a look at the ROL board? I'm not sure if the LED itself is a standard 0603 SMD LED, but as I can't find any of those, I'm willing to bet the one used is of a different size/package which I'd be interested in finding out so I could purchase some myself. Could you take a look? I've messaged around with other sellers who do similar mods but they don't seem to be responding which sucks, hence why I'm asking here :P
Hey brother bear. I was hoping you might give me a little advice. So I replaced the laser on my Xbox 360 phat , it seems to run fine.....but it doesn't read still. I've doubled checked it. Anti plastic is gone and no issue with any screws. Do you think you can give me any advice?
If it just displays "Play Game" that means your DVD key on the drive board isn't matching to what the motherboard is expecting. If you don't have access to the original drive board to swap in, or you don't have the original drive, or key on hand you'll have to RGH the console to get it back and reflash the drive. Although again, that's assuming you're getting a "Play Game" message and the game doesn't boot. Not enough information was provided in your comment.
@@MrMario2011 sorry about that. So basically the laser disc reader, I replaced it. It wasn't reading disc's. I insert a disc in and it wouldn't say, "Play Game", it would just say "Open Tray". I removed the anti static plastic off the new laser reader, and replaced it in the disc drive but it still won't read any games. I hope I provided enough information
Looks like my tray isn't lifting high enough when the disk is first entered.
You can sometimes save the original laser by using a multimeter on the soldering points on the potentiometer on the left side of the back of the laser. You can use a small flat head screwdriver to move the potentiometer slightly to the left I believe to force the laser to work slightly harder and that can fix read errors in many cases on the 360. You don't want to turn the screw literally more then a hair because you can quickly burn out the laser. With my multimeter set to 20k I have my 360 drive set to 3.2, I've read that going lower the 3 you can burn out your laser quickly because you are forcing the laser to work to hard. For most people you will want it set to 4 or higher but I believe my drive is dieing so it lets me get a little more time out of it before it does die. Just an FYI for anyone reading this in 2022. You can Google search adjust Xbox 360 pot for detailed instructions.
Many people attempt to do this without a multimeter but I wouldn't. Turning the potentiometer even the slightest turn can result in huge over swings resulting in a burnt out laser. I would estimate a good amount of lasers can be saved this way, at least for a while. Sometimes there is nothing even wrong with your laser. Sometimes they come set wrong from the factory. If it's used the bumping around to have it shipped to you can cause the pot to move, even just the opening and closing of the tray can cause the pot to move over time.
Oh yeah, I'm familiar with that method, although as you said it can work for some time. It isn't as much of a fix however as a full replacement, and in my experience I've gotten disappointing results doing a POT tweak.
I did a few and wasn't happy with the results, and with lasers being so affordable, it's just better in my opinion to replace the whole laser with a new one.
@@MrMario2011 Yeah swapping the laser is definitely a permanent fix and I'm going to do that myself for my 360. But the pot tweak lets me play with the broken 360 I got on ebay until the new laser gets here.
I am curious though what we're the results of your pot tweak? Did the laser die? Or was it just unreliable at reading disks after the tweak? My first adjustment on 3.5 would read the disk but it sounded like it was going to launch to the moon and then would shut off, I had to slowly lower it while testing to eventually get it to work. Who knows how long it will last, who knows how long anything will last on a 360 haha.
OK, this is a shot in the dark, but I was hoping that you still have an image of unirom for the PSX somewhere. The ISO was only hosted in once place and from my googling the server went down sometime in the beginning of this month. Help me, obi-mario. you're my only hope.
That screw coming out of the white slider in your DVD drive always happens to me. It's super annoying and has nothing to do with the replacement. It's actually just the crappy made slider, and the thread breaks. You can buy replacements on eBay but I put super glue on the screw and screw it into the slider. That holds it down
It isn't an issue with threading, it is an issue that aftermarket lasers could possibly have. A few in here have confirmed the previous screw would not fit snug in a replacement laser and I was also recommended by the seller to use a bigger screw from a hardware store. Not really surprised at the inaccuracy now with it since the Xbox 360 isn't a current generation console anymore.
Ah okay, it could be possible the aftermarket sellers are fixing the original issue, I'm not sure. I've swapped multiple OEM lasers to get different consoles working and it's an issue that has popped up a fair bit. Glad you got your system working!
I have the same controller but with gummies at the joysticks it's black on the side line of the controller tho
How do you fix error 68 on your fat 360 HDD
Hey mr.mario do you have an email I would like your help with a rgh Corona 16mb I followed your instructions for flashing a lost DVD key using xell and it still shows play dvd
How to get a disc drive out your xbox 360 elite? I couldn't get to my laser everything else came apart
Pretty self explanatory if you take it apart.
Awesome, I have a Jasper and a Falcon board 360s and the drive lasers died. The consoles didn't see heavy use after I got my Xbox One back in 2016.
28:47 I have an old Xbox 360 that makes this noise
The black plastic that goes around the metal frame holding the rails so nicely let’s Mario unscrew the four brackets holding the rails in place. Mine covers one of the screws.
Does the original(the one you took out) have solder?
Nope, since it was in use.
I pot tweeked the laser after this open tray error, now it reads only the originals.. no burned discs at all.. Do you know why ? Do I need to change the laser ?
In my experience POT tweaking a Xbox/Xbox 360 laser isn't worth it, you're just speeding up the death of an already dying laser. Original games are easier to read than backup games.
@@MrMario2011 thanks for the reply, I guess buying and replacing the laser is the only way to revive the backup collection
? my orginal xbox its like a 6 month out release xbox 360 the drive on it makes awefull noise it works but it sounds like its eating disk what can be done for it
If you want to fix it while being lazy, replace the whole drive and swap over your old PCB.
yeah i thought of that but i bought a newer version of the system that has 250gigs of storage mine was the 20gig model and i replaved the drive with 120 and that was running out of space
Ok, I know this is kinda off topic for the video, but at least it's on a Xbox 360 video. Anyway, do you know of anyway to softmod a Xbox 360? I really don't want to have to open it up and hard mod it.
Impossible.
MrMario2011 ok well I've since decided on going with a x360key, any info on how to dump the drive key? I haven't opened it yet, but I know that it's a Jasper MB, based on the fact that it was made in 2009 and has a current rating of 12.1 amps.
Look up my flashing tutorial, you can get the key that way.
Mine did say thing with the screw that goes on the laser
How do you program disc drives in case a guy has to replace one?
Watch my video showing how to flash a DVD drive.
Will this work on the fat black xbox 360.
Nice! 👍
That screw popped out for me too lol,so i used a super glue,a bit too much and basically screwed new laser lol. At least i know it was working,ust ordered new part,only 10e on amazon. Definitely have to use some superglue to keep the white thing in place
The drive on my system won't open when it's vertical. Will a new drive belt fix this?
Kag Dioah Yes, it makes sounds but doesn't open. The emergency open trick with a paper clip works fine though. I ordered five replacement belts from Ebay already.
Kag Dioah Should I lubricate the rails? I have some lithium grease I use for my 3D printer.
Kag Dioah thanks a bunch
Just put it horizontal, or leave a disk in it.
AZTech&Gaming that won't fix the problem. I prefer fixing the issue itself
In case anyone is doing this in 2021, the issue I had with the infamous screw in the video was that the area that the white part that links the laser to the motor sits in in the replacement laser is slightly deeper than the original, so the original screw wasn't long enough to reach the bottom hole. I got a slightly longer screw from the hardware store and it solved the problem nicely.
That's what I was told by the first seller, hah.
can you give me the size of the screw please
the backup disc looks cheap, non verbatim. i also use low priced ones but i usually have high pi pif values sometimes read error. can you redo a video on liteon ihas and imageburn for cheap discs?
BTW i also got 141x laser from ali. i checked the resistance it was 1.5kohm and as per tutorials it should not be below 3. usually it is 5 to 6. anyway its still running dont know for how long.
No need to redo the videos for them as the process is the same. Cheap media is cheap media.
MrMario2011 hmm. then it must be my burner dying out. will try to find a replacement. thanks mario. great videos. 👍
At 13.43 that screw for me is stripped what do I do
Gotta use some tricks! Maybe use a flathead to slowly loosen it, or put a rubber band between the screw and your screwdriver to add some tension. Just try a few common methods for removing a stripped screw.
9:00... I replaced the laser on a friend's XBOX360 this morning... didn't know about that solder blob. I've repaired 6 360's overseas by replacing the laser and they all worked. Is the solder blob a new thing?! His 360 has the 'open tray' fault, guess I will have to get with him and see about removing the solder blob on the laser I installed... huh... ALSO, I thought you couldn't change the disk drive itself. I read, some time ago, that the CDROM & the motherboard are linked so you couldn't change out the drive.
The solder blob has always been a thing, at least on properly packaged lasers. You can swap disc drives as long as you either swap the drive board as well, or you use software to transfer the DVD key.
@@MrMario2011 That's interesting about the blob and thank you for the information on the disk drive. Now to just find one, my buddies XBOX360 has this issue. We're going to try removing the solder, but in the event that doesn't repair the drive I'll have to replace it. Thanks for the information.
I love the 360 console, just kinda scared to play it. Never know when it might red ring. (Red dot in my case)
Keep it clean and you'll be fine.
MrMario2011 I'll keep that in mind, Thanks!
link to the laser? ..think i need to do this... i tried everything else..I am stuck... 2 days messing with you tube vidoes
In description.
The screw theory...actually the first screw is glued.. I've noticed that replacement laser has no threads for the screw to go in..so i glued again and works fine..😅
On the slim if there is anything wrong with the Xbox 360 it gives me the red ring of death
Huh?
Oh yeah the disk drive sorry
I know its late but the laser motor needs re-greasing. Thats why it is making that noise.
The laser starts to move then stops
what if a game doesn’t install 100%
Is there an easier way? A way that doesn’t involve taking your x box apart. I am a very precarious person and do not want to mess up anything.
Nope.
MrMario2011 thank you for the feedback. As I stated, I want to avoid disassembling it. I would buy another one but this problem keeps happening with every one I have owned and want to fix it instead of just buying another one.
Jerry, just bite the bullet and try a few repairs. As you mentioned, this happens a lot with all retro consoles, so if you want to keep them for years to come, might as well learn. It gets easier and soon you will be a pro.
Why are you doing this in 2018???
You clicked in 2018, Josh.
My xbox was working fine until I formatted a new hard drive and now it won't read discs. How could formatting a hard drive break the laser?
I'm asking the same question as you here LOL That sounds like an unfortunate circumstance if anything, because formatting a hard drive alone wouldn't break your DVD drive.
Cleaned it outside out and still says "open tray:"
Not sure what you mean by "cleaned it outside out"? Typically I fix it by replacing the laser, as shown here.
@@MrMario2011 Ended up exchanging the thing for a functional one.
When I replace xbox 360 lasers. I always have to put a fatter screw to hold the worm gear to the laser. The black screw on the x-clamp works good for this. That happens alot with 3rd party lasers.
I think I might just buy a new 360
thats why you should use loctite :D
FYI, your laser died very quickly because you are using very cheap DVD+R DL media. Windata is notorious for killing lasers. Buy a good brand like Verbatim.
Nope, I bought this console with a bad laser. Not disputing cheap media, just stating the laser was bad before I ever tried a disc.
Hi.
sup?
Hey my disc drive
XBOX 360, high budget game system, low budget and cheap disc drive.
Give me a disc drive issue over a general hardware failure any day!
This takes 2 much time lol wish there was a reliable 360 herd even the e breaks down