UniFi FlexHD
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- čas přidán 10. 12. 2019
- A look at the UniFi FlexHD (model UAP-FLEXHD). Really powerful access point in a versatile form factor.
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that device is just nice..the many mounting options are awesome for adaptability on different scenarios
Been running one of these outdoors for a few months since the first batch in EA. It's a solid AP, speeds are on par with the NanoHD. Range is amazing, I replaced an AC-M with the flex and outdoor range is easily 600ft+. Been solid since day 1. It is the same chipset as the NanoHD and BeaconHD.
This fits perfectly in my built in for my den. It blends perfectly!
I have installed a few of these for customers. The form factor is amazing, doesn't have near the range of AC mesh Pro, but is 1/10 the size. Very modern looking red bull can sized. The mounts are very well made.
great selection on beer my friend. As always your video's are always best when enjoying a fresh Elysian Space-dust!
Just this week I had to add a new AC-lite to my office to extend my main AC-Pro connection downstairs and I was just lamenting how ugly a little AC-lite on my windowsill looked, and now this comes out and it's pretty much perfect. I don't need to wall mount anything and can just put it next to my desk. Instantly bought!
How is the ac pro doing ? Do you think I should upgrade to this from ac pro?
I wish you would have tested the coverage in different mounting positions and compared to the Nano. What I want to learn about the FlexHD is how much better is the tabletop coverage compared to a Nano sitting on a table. Or maybe a Nano mounted to a basement ceiling vs a FlexHD sitting on a basement shelf. Or maybe even one Nano on a top floor ceiling vs a FlexHD on a bottom floor shelf.
That would be an interesting comparison.
@@CrosstalkSolutions help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005212927-UniFi-UAP-Antenna-Radiation-Patterns
i was thinking a Flex vs the Mesh and the Mesh pro
I like the form factor. Looks great on a desk or shelf
looks nice. Always good to have multiple options.
Reallife performance test, woud be Nice
I work in a beach club in the Meditteranean. Our system gets hammered constantly by sea spray, dust, salt, sun, you name it. We put a bit of vaseline (non petroleum based) on the RJ45 and found that this ups the reliability/ uptime from a few months between service, to 2 years and still going strong without failure. Highly recommend it. Note we initially tried with petroleum based grease and found that it actually wicked the salt into the connection and accelerates oxidation of the connectors (doh) - so don't use that.
Great video - I wish I'd seen it before last Thursday when I finally jumped into the deep pool with a UDM-Pro & FlexHD purchase! I do love the form factor of the FlexHD. It's smaller than it looks in all the pictures/videos. I wish it had the range of what I think I'd get with the AC Pro. I really had to work at getting coverage for my entire house with just one FlexHD.
Wonder if the antennas are worse due to smaller form factor.. Would love an in depth check on coverage for this as it's 360..
Elysian Space dust is literally my favorite IPA!
This is a pretty cool looking WiFi AP I would love to give them a go and use the Ceiling Mounting Hardware and install it into Hotel Rooms that I look after with about 52 AP's so far and more to come but this would be great for offices etc as well.. Cost well that is a huge factor as well :/ in Australia it will cost an arm and a leg... And just like that $339 AUD :O HFS
Very nice explanation keep updating
If I do a wall mount high up closed to the ceiling, should this device be mounted upside down (i.e., with ethernet cable feeding from top)?
Any idea if mounting it horizontally will decrease the range or change how wide the area it serves would be?
I just ordered one! I have a nano and an AC Pro already. Thinking this will go in my living room or on the back wall of my house to cover two bedroom as and the yard.
Do you think this is an upgrade to the pro? Is your pro working fine?
I have bought this recently and am very disappointed by the low range it provides, compared to a Fritzbox 6591 which i have installed in my home. It starts losing connectivity as soon as you are behind a wall and sometimes refuses to connect and switch between 2,4 Ghz and 5 Ghz. My Fritzbox kept switching from one to another without noticing, having full signal strength on the 2,4 Ghz network and high throughput (2 walls, approx. 120 Mbps constantly), the FlexHD struggles to keep any connection and if it does it provides around 10Mbps. I assume the antennas are pretty weak, due to the small form factor. I was hoping for a bit more, i will not have to find another solution for my use case.
You have great taste in beer!
can i do point to multipoint with the flexhd? i want to broadcast 360 degrees and also wireless bridge to 2 buildings approx 50meters away
Nice AP, currently have 1 mounted on the wall in the basement. Will replace my nanoHD on the 1st floor ceiling with a FlexHD.
Why would you do that?
They should have same performance.
@@real_andrii the FlexHD looks better with the ceiling mount
@@alonzosmith6189 not going to argue, guess it is a personal preference.
Like my flexHD table-top.
Main reason why at the second location I went with flexHD instead of nanoHD.
@@real_andrii nice AP, have 5 throughout my house, on table top, wall mounted and ceiling mounted
Does it have a wireless back haul capability, if so can it be adopted wirelessly?
I have to ask, did you unbox this prior to this video? Was the box factory sealed(transparent wrap around the box that you have to break). I had my fair share of sellers promising me "never used" status, only to later find out it was not only used but abused and even in several cases malfunctioning...
This is a great device
Will it mesh with other UAPs?
Nice review...I've been curious about that product since it launched.
Random question but what is that mat you have on your desk with the cable coming out of it - some sort of anti-static mat?
Yes it's an antistatic mat :)
Any thoughts on the radiation pattern of the lower hemisphere? The documentation for this AP only show a radiation plot scale of 90 degrees. Both AC-M models show scales of 180 degrees and provide the radiation pattern of upper and lower hemispheres. Since this product can be pole mounted outdoors it will end up being overhead frequently.
Hi Chris, love your videos! It would be great if you could do real life WiFi speed tests with all these Unifi devices. iperf perhaps? I just bought a FlexHD and so far im not impressed with the speeds
Thumbs up for Space Dust!
I need to segment my WLAN by SSID and VLAN... ideas?
You should wrap up that AP as a red bull can.
Hello Chris, I love your videos.
I just got my FlexHD. Unfortunately, some of my devices like my printer and oven will not connect to it. With my AP-AC-LR all the devices can connect. Do you have any idea what the problem may be?
From pure specs, flex hd, nanohd and in wall hd looks kinda the same hardware/radio (with extra eth on in wall hd and outdoor rating on the flex hd) - Would love to see some comparisons on the three.
Is this about the same concept as a nanostation m5, is this one omini directional? Seems pretty simple to me
Hey Chris, I'm 90% certain that the FlexHD, NanoHD, and In Wall HD are all the same chipset. Even if they aren't, they are actually the same price if you buy directly from Ubiquiti instead of through Amazon. The downside with going through them is that you have to pay for shipping.
Yup - that's why Amazon is king of retailers.
does this require any controller? need to use at home without any additional spending.
Wish some would have tested it on a pole on the roof of a building or house.
Hi,
I have 1gb mbps from isp, but using unifi flex hd I'm getting nearly 140 mbps speed, please help me to get complete speed from the unifi flex hd
Hey all, I have only set up and used airFiber radios from Ubiquiti. After looking and looking at mesh systems out there, I decided to do Ubiquiti In wall APs, and this FlexHD APs for my house. But before I purchase, I don't know if these APs support multiple WLANs? Currently, I am using some really old Cisco 1200AC APs, that I have 3 different WLANs configured. Does anyone know if these Ubiquiti APs supports multiple SSIDs/ WLANs? I have been up and down Ubiquiti docs.
Does it have handoff capabilities?
The only thing I wish was that they made it with a better weather rating. This seems like a better form factor than the frisbees when mounting outside.
Yes - definitely better than using the other frisbee shaped AP's outdoors. But, unless I had a need to connect a TON of clients in an outdoor area, I still prefer the UAP-AC-M form factor over this one.
It looks great for residential use. I am going to buy a couple myself.
What is this device,s range?
is this decive a weatherproof? can i used outdoor in pole
You just wanted an excuse to pop open a beer lol 😂
My secret is out...
That was actually one of my favorite parts of the video. Now I gotta get some Elysian! I hope they're sponsoring you for this one!
What axis camera is that on your desk?
Hi good morning
What is the range the antena
They mentioned MESH with this model, so I was wondering if this is also a MESH AP? I saw it's uplink was (WIRED) .. so I do think this is also MESH
You can set it to mesh if you don't have Ethernet where you are putting it and are willing to take the throughput loss per hop. If you can lay Ethernet, that is a much better way to go. You can find the mesh setting in the controller software in SETTINGS/SITE/Enable Wireless Uplink. Wired is the way to go if at all possible.
@@tzviasegal3003 if I have 2 that are wired, and have them mesh enabled, will they just default to using whichever is strongest? (which i assume is wired)
@@RSB703 I would not enable mesh if they were wired. Mesh is a bandaid for not having ethernet, not a better choice.
Can I put a TP-link Gigabit switch between this AP and the Dream Machine? Is the TP-Link gonna bottleneck the signal chain? I have a network printer but this AP only has one Ethernet port. I want to put a switch so the printer can be hardwired. Thanks.
I recommend www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/8-port-switch/tl-sg108pe/ if you haven't already purchased something
What can be the rage of Flexhd? I couldn't find that in the specification? Is it simmilar to U6 lite? Or less?
Looks good, I wonder if you could mesh it for a very expensive home wifi network??
You can use this for mesh (just like the other Unifi access points)
What other UniFi outdoor options do they sell? Not sure if the Mesh can be integrated in an existing UniFi network.
Yes - both of the UniFi mesh AP's are UniFi devices...they can be adopted into UniFi no problem.
Thanks for the video, the device looks cool, was debating this model vs In-Wall model
The In-Wall with the pass thru POE is really nice so you don't lose an access port.
Should be huge for apartment dwellers.
Hi Chris, I enjoy your videos I am a bit of a tech guy but this Ubiquiti Network stuff is beyond me. I have a question. I have a 1Meg Comcast internet service but my Wi-Fi in our house is weak, I am only using the standard Comcast router. Could I simply plug a internet cable in my router then plug the other end into a device like the UAP-FLEXHD or any of the UAP-AC (HD or Pro) or do I need to replace all my equipment. ..... Thanks
You absolutely can install the access points in Stand Alone mode...which is what you are describing. You should follow the instructions to ‘provisioning’ (getting it running on your network) using your smartphone.
Don’t worry. Buy the AC PRO version, wrestle with the install for the first time...after that you’ll wonder why everyone makes it sound so difficult. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Could this be a linked ( with POE injector) to the dream machine, expanding the dream machine range?
Aaron Feitner yes
So I noticed that you had an AXIS companion recorder and camera in the corner. Would you be doing any video on that system as well? I’ve been looking into that and would like to hear your input on the AXIS Companion system.
Soon...I’m still learning the platform
Crosstalk Solutions wonderful, I can’t wait and I’m looking forward to the video
I'd like to know if the beam pattern is the same as with the Nano HD.
It is same for both, or atleast it was when I checked last. Here is the link : help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005212927-UniFi-UAP-Antenna-Radiation-Patterns
“Slips right onto... slips right onto... ugh”
What wireless access point would you suggest for a home user?
Im confused on why they didnt ship it with a bigger foot so it doesnt get knocked over too easily
You could 3D print one really easily if you know someone with a 3D printer.
For $180 usd it should be in the box.
Space Dust good choice. Last time I was at Costco they had cases of it for $29.99.
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Hi Chris, do you consult? I have a project that I would like your insight about its needs and products.
Is this thing VLAN aware? (dot1Q?) I can't find any information about that?
No support for 802.11ax? 😕
Compare this with the ac pro .. am I the only one who wouldn’t upgrade to this ?
sounds crazy for a patio or pool but, f you buy new AND KEEP IT, in 3 years, 5 years, 7 years it won't seem so overkill. Obviously it's not like permanent structured cabling but, if you look at some of the old used stuff hitting ebay, 5 years isn't un heard of.
I provide In-Transit wifi on coach buses and catamarans, we are currently looking into deploying some unifi APs, would you recommend this unit for that use? If not, which unit would you recommend?
IMO this wouldn't suit your needs as this is more building orientated installation vs vehicles like Buses etc. The UniFi AC Lite's would be more than enough to get you going as you wouldn't hit the capacity of the AC Lite which can handle (as per the Datasheet 250+ Users) it has a 300Mbps 2.4GHz and 867Mbps 5GHz that should be more than enough as you wouldn't be hitting over what 50 users at a time on Buses and 3-5 people on a Catamaran that is my opinion :)
I agree with James - you wouldn't really need an AP this pricey when you have a fixed number of people that can possibly access it.
However, for busses, we have had great success with the PepWave stuff - they not only provide WiFi to the folks riding the bus, but have great built in features for managing the bus's location information, fencing for turning WiFi on/off, etc. - definitely check into the Pepwave stuff.
Will the blue light fade over time like the rest of Ubiquiti APs? ;)
It would cover nicely outside on top of a flag pole and no one would know it's there.
not sure about the fading but in the config you can change the color and density of light. Havent seen that on other UBNT products yet
@@ERLJR82 It's a known issue with unifi APs. Blue LEDs used fade rather quickly. All of our ACPro and ACHD units are so dim the blue glow is visible only when the lights are out. Doesn't affect anything else, it's just aesthetics. The white LEDs still work when they are offline and flashing.
Hi, did you test the 5ghz wlan speed? best regards
No - I didn't in this case. I don't have the ability to test 4x4 MU-MIMO properly, and one client running a speed test isn't that exciting.
Those mounts look very similar to the G3 Flex cameras.
I suspect they are exactly the same. Specs for the G3 Flex state a 48mm diameter, and they state 48.5mm for the AP. As an early user of the G3 Flex, I waited a very long time for the ceiling mounts, and hard time finding them in stock recently. Hopefully another product line means they'll keep inventory flowing a bit better.
Turns out the mounts are different part numbers. The AP mount is much longer so it can hide the length of the AP. But I was able to test-fit an AP in one of the camera mounts, and it works perfectly from a functional standpoint - you'd just have more of the AP's length exposed.
186 is cheap!
The ruckus stuff I install is 800+ an AP.
Outdoor is 1300!
POE passive or 802.11af/at?
Both passive and .af per datasheet ( dl.ui.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_FlexHD_AP_DS.pdf )
this ap is ok form is also cool but I think it's just for business to go home too expensive
No support for 802.11r or k..
think Ubiquity have put a cheaper hardware inside 🤔.. would not use this in SME environment
The only reason to buy this form factor is for those who don’t want to mount a UniFi smoke detector style on the wall or ceiling and have something better looking free standing upright.
The last firmware available (4.3.13) is really impressive on this product. iPerf gives me about ~850mbps of throughput on the 5ghz band, assuming you use a 160mhz channel width wireless client like the AX200 chipset.
This tiny form factor can be a interesting choice for the Amplifi Line i guess, like the Alien.
They need to come out with wifi 6 instead of releasing new things with ac
Does it support VHT160?
Yep
This is not a test, just a commercial presentation
You plugged it in to ethernet but not to power. When do you need the power plug.
It uses power over ethernet (PoE), so from a powered switch or you can use a PoE injector.
You said nothing about RGB :/ I love the RGB on this Device 😁
Why not talk about the capabilities. Sure it looks nice. What’s the range?
Great device but WiFi6 should have been the norm for every new device coming out. Although it is not widely used currently, I would hope that as more devices become WiFi the new WiFi6 would alleviate some of the congestion we are already seeing. This device is great but going to be out of date right out of the box to quickly for minimal commercial use.
Hey I posted a question in your discord? Could you possibly take a look. Thanks for all the info, your channel is great!
Its a beautiful form factor. but the price is too much
This is a great device but the price is about $50.00 too much. I would never spend that kind of money on an indoor installation. An outdoor maybe.
Nice Video, but why have the new Devices only 300 MBits on 2,4 GHz?
This is rediculous!
I have the AP AC Pro with 450 MBits on 2,4 GHz and I think this is the Minimum for new Devices...
Greetings from Germany
Love all the new UBNT gear. But am amazed at how long and how well my 2 AC pro and 1 AC have lasted. Wouldn't change them for the world try.
It should cost $120-140.
i hope they will focus on real products at some point and not just "revisions" on what they already have. why would anyone buy this one instead of a nano hd? because it will look "good" on their office? wtf.
every single thing they release lately is too expensive for no good reason. i can't wait for a new USG 3 (since it sucks atm) where it will cost 200 euros instead of 100 because.... they can.
Ditto on the next gen usg3. As for this flex hd it does bring about the only 4x4 outdoor radio I believe. The m-pro is 3x3
can't assemble the clip, keeps calling it a nano hd, comparing it to a beer bottle ...come on Chris you know better than to do reviews when you're sauced :-D
Not really a product I was waiting for, also a pity they didn't make it ax
Im pretty sure ax doesn't fit in there with mu-mimu considering how big other wifi6 aps are
@@JPK1337 the EnGenius Neutron EWS377AP doesn't look to be all that large. Nor does the Aruba AP 515 (which is 6x6)
Netgear just makes their products look "special" for no real reason
This was released a few months ago so it's not surprising it's not AX.
yes but mimo and odfm needs a lot of antennas that just don't fit in a coke can like this. just look at the size of the cisco meraki wifi6 aps. because that's what makes wifi 6 faster. the frequencys are the same.
@@EricSchnabel Plenty of wifi 6 stuff that is older than a year now, (but I was under the impression it was a very recent release, it launched here in the soviet rebublic of belgistan december 4th)
Oh boy, that useless mount style like the Flex cameras. Outdoor rating is BS like the Flex cameras.
Wifi 5 Zzz...
Too expensive.
Yeah, I don't see this in any production enviroment... While it is a nice form factor, it aint exactly useful for a number of reasons.
First: no extra weight on table mount makes me agree with Uddhava das. This thing looks just too top heavy for this narrow frame.
Second: Most industrial places I have seen, except for when using old, non-remodeled buildings, use drop ceiling and I would say that classic UniFi devices like UAP-AC-Pro fit the bill better.
Third: No PoE passthrough. While this form factor looks nice and all, it bother's me, because this could have had more very easily accessible ports and served greater range of purposes. Say this device were 802.3bt capable and had a couple of 802.3af out ports. It's form factor would make network maintenance and installation work fairly easy, even when mounted in to the ceiling, granting it option to be a switch for other PoE devices or copper repeater for long cable runs, as well as an AP. Imagine a scenario, where this single device could relay power to up to four cameras. You wouldn't need to run so many final-mile cables straight from the rack.
Take old brick and mortar factory (which would probably be best case for this device in production enviroment even as it stand's now), they don't need to (sometimes can't) drill in to walls, just to install an AP and a switch, so that they can wire production office, where foreman sit's with a printer and a phone. Why need two seperate devices, when one could do the trick! Or storage house attatched to shop premises. A single AP for lgistics terminals and PoE relay for cameras guarding the exits would suffice, why need two? Or a farm, where farm house is attatched to the barn, which in turn is attatched to cow shed on one side and workshop on the other (T shaped amalgamations of buildings) There is no need for extra switch in there, just a camera guarding the the barn doors and three runs, one in to each attatched building, where are switches for each individual building. The cheapest way to do this "intersection" now with Ubiquiti is ER-X in switch mode and PoE passthrough in to UAP AC Lite. These are just three fairly common installation scenarios I have seen so far. While none was exactly like the other, this theme was ever-present and for this reason they usually went with Mikrotik instead. It was just easier.
Where does this leave this device as it stand's now? Well, I actually see this in home installs paired with a UDM. Question is, would there be a home owner, willing to buy more expensive option from the same manufacturer, if the only effect he'll notice is esthetic? I have my doubts.
I can see this in non-industrial (commercial office) settings in the drop ceiling or for outdoor areas where you need some coverage - like the patio of a restaurant for example. I agree that table-top installation is just asking for issues, and if you did need PoE passthrough, there are other AP's for that use case.
I see people on the Unifi forum all the time talking about wanting to put their AP-AC-X product on top of a bookshelf. This is better for that.