NEW WEAPONS Tier List for Season 12 - BEST and WORST GUNS - Apex Legends Guide
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GAMELEAP'S TIER LIST FOR YA:
D tier: P2020
C tier: Mozambique, Re 45, P2020 (hammerpoints)
B tier: Eva-8, Bocek Bow, L-Star, R99, Sentinel, Re-45 (hammerpoints)
A tier: 30-30 rep, Triple-Take, Alternator, Hemlok, Havoc, Devotion, Mozambique (hammerpoints)
S tier: Wingman (my bae), Mastiff, Peacekeeper, Devotion (turbocharger), Prowler, Rampage
S+ tier: Charge Rifle, R301, Havoc (turbocharger), CAR SMG.
Yep only ground loot weapons in this tier list, though I wish he could've included the crafting weapons atleast. For me since the flatline got nerfed it is just S tier now (yep R301 on top now) and the Longbow is like A-B tier i guess. Hope this helped :)
Thank you!
Thanks
Thank you so much
the flatline was nerf with 1 less point of damage, it's the same bruh.
Thank you. I find it really hard to remember what guns were in the tier i just watched. Makes it much easier to remember to have a list or something.
Can you do a video of best Olympus drop spots??
Yess with rotations!
Yes i need that
Bonzia is my favorite czcams.com/video/2ZA0cu2bErs/video.html
@@Mocha2x Especially with certain Legends. Crypto, Wattson, Lifeline.
Bonzai is arguably a Top 5 drop spot for any map in the game.
@@RealJeffTidwell I agree man it’s so fun
Honestly, every gun is good depending on the user, i do agree that some guns are just better but apex did a good job at balancing them
To put the Hemlol back in line with the other assault rifles, I feel like it needs either a faster fire rate for the burst, or more damage per bullet.
I've tried to make it work, but like is mentioned in the video, it falls off once the game goes on. Heck, I mostly only play Arenas, and even round 1 I much prefer to spend 250 on an RE-45 and just get closer than to get a no optic Lok.
By round 3, people are getting blue or purple Flatlines, R-301s, and Alternators that eat a Hemlok user before the third burst shot is even fired.
I mean it's better than a P2020 (probably even late game with HP), but I'm never going to actively choose it anymore like I used to.
@@Xoulrath_ or hear me out.... BRING BACK SELECT FIRE FOR PROWLERS AND HEMLOCKS
p2020 isn’t good
i rlly like the bocek but i think it would be beneficial if the 2-4 scope was compitable with the bow
I've loved it with the 3x scope. It would be interesting to see how it does with a 2x-4x. I definitely notice that I need to be just that much closer with it to really be effective versus say the 30-30 with its 2x-4x attached.
@@Xoulrath_ true. although i absolutely agree with you i have come to the conclusion that the 2-4 scope is maybe a bit too chunky and big for the bocek which could make hipfiring harder if it obstructs the view too much
@@mathehub9333 but notice how they seem to make the sights look smaller on the bocek anyways
@@jaysonnookemus9865 true
@@mathehub9333 it would be interesting to see the 2-4× come to the boceck
I absolutely love these vids! At the end would u mind showing an overall spreadsheet type for screenshots?
we need a akimbo hopup for p2020, it even have decent hip fire so i think it might be cool
THIS. Akimbo for p2020 would finally boost it up the tier list.
I like the combo r99 and mozam, one mag with r99 and finish with mozam with hammer points
And i kinda have a soft spot for the Mozambique as i only really started to play s8 and i loved how you dropped with it that one time
This combo was the one i used back then and now the hopup is back i can finally rationalise running it
the mozam is soooooo underrated. I love using it in arenas
@@hypnotic_o yeah you can get a purple one first round
I usually run it with a bruiser
I honestly find the bow to be the best marksman weapon in the game, even surpassing the Kraber. No need to stop to reload, you can get your ammo back, range is pretty extensive, and with a 3x scope, you can 3-4 shot someone in less than 4 seconds from a distance
Sure, the other guns deal more damage, but if you miss your shots, it bites ya. A bow allows quite a bit of missed shots to still be effective.
Dunno, guess it's just based on preference.
Yeah I like to take those kinds of gun that people stay away from or consider exotic and not worth it and then use them to show off how good they really are
the bow is good the problem is the ammo really. Whenever i see someone use bow i just wait out their ammo
@@dumbass5818 what? No some people are just good with a bow dude, there's a a few insane streamers who only use the bow, will drop a gold r301 for it.
@@ryanmurillo8625 I think that's what he was saying: is that the bow is good but a lot of people don't think it is, so he loved when people show off how good those types of weapons are. For example? The streamer that you're talking about is doing exactly that.
Now for my own two cents, I personally love the bow. My go-to way back in S1 and S2 when I last played was the Hemlok. It's still good, but it's missing that consistent 3-4 shot kill with how wild the burst can be. Yeah, it's great for its single fire for long range engagements, but I'll always prefer a sniper there. It just lost its midrange dominance so I was looking to replace it.
The Bocek feels to me exactly like the Hemlok that I last used. I'm also not penalized for hitting head shots that I aim for, lol. So after seeing a few people do well with it, I decided that it was time to put in some practice with it. I haven't looked back.
It should be noted that I primarily play Arenas now, so it's easy for me to get access to what I want to use with ease. My favorite part about using the bow is hearing my teammates whine about my weapon choice, then hearing silence as I get kill after kill. Fun times.
I love the bow, but the kraber is WAYYY better. other than that I agree with you.
R9 should be with the wingman. Hit your shots and they're the best guns imo.
Exactly best gun for 1 clips
Actually insane anyone would ever put it at the lower end of a scale. Its the only gun I look for. Might comp with a car, but the R9 is my baby.
Where are we placing the flatline and longbow? They’re not ground loot but still common enough to get a hold of. I’m curious particularly with where the flatline stacks up with its new nerf.
S or S+
S+ 100%, you only need 8 shots to the head to kill someone you can clip 2 people and crack another with 1 mag
💯 S tier
Ive been running either prowler or car with a tripple take..absolute unit of a loadout
Thanks for the great video 👍👍
Flatline peacekeeper and r99 the best ever 👍
When talking about the hemlock, do we consider single fire mode rather than burst? Like, is the ttk the same time in single fire mode as burst mode? I don’t know if it’s just me, but I feel like I kill much faster in single fire than burst.
I personally like hemlok for mid range and flat line for short
Thanks for the tier list, you showed me how good the charge rifle and prowler are.
I have just started playing Apex (moved from Warzone) and I am loving it. So much fun!
Ay when season 11 was still around I never used the L star but now I use it almost every game I think its actually really good
hey game leap what is the best legend for aggressive play style thank you
I love hearing your voice! Thank you for the tips
I disagree on the alternator I would swap it and the r99 the alternator alwase gets me killed it’s ttk is way to slow to use past the stage where people have purple armor vs 99 where you can spray them down to 100 hp or so and finish with secondary rarely do I get the chance to unload a full alternator clip without dying but what do I know, you have played a lot more than I I’m just a weekend gamer.
Your just bad with it
@@snopdogg2x you’re just bad with R9
@@lbomb1121 the ttk they are pretty close in TTK. But alternator has better recoil.
@@snopdogg2x NO LMFAOÒOOOO
@@snopdogg2x r99 has easy recoil as well maybe just get better
Honestly I think one of the best mid range annihilation classes is alternator mastiff I have a few clips wiping 3 squads with the combo 🔥
Is there a website that you used as a reference for the guns TTK, if you could share that spreadsheet that would be greatly appreciated
“Your junk will be looking S tier”. 🤣😂 I am weeeeak. Nice promo. Your voice is 👌🏼
I’ve been single firing the hemlock this season and it fucking shreds, trading burst for better accuracy is worth checking out imo
Great list
Could you make a guide for attachments, I'm new and I don't know what to pick up?
If you go in the firing range it has all the attachments for each type of weapon next to where those guns spawn.
For the most part, you want to get the purple attachments for every gun. The only place that this really changes is in optics. That is all personal preference.
i mean, does the 301 take the crown? you still have to hope for RNG where as with the flatline, i just need to land in a replicator zone and its a flatline every single game for me
Yes with the 1 damage nerf the 301 has the fastest ttk for ar’s without a hop up (havoc turbo beats it)
I still like the alt Morris then the car this season I'd wrather use alt havoc r301 wing man re is still good if u know how to use it but u placed in the right spots mozi is good of drops tho and in early game spots but better to have other weapons in the end besides that
Dude I just played a match and found 3 turbochargers (1 in CP)
Dude, your man-scape plugs are fire
So with the Flatline’s nerf, if it was still ground loot where would you rank the gun?
S+ it still amazing
Its barely less dps than r301. I will always prefer the flatline
@@velzun8075 What is the DPS difference currently between the Flatline and R301?
@@fireboy1996 Its like 1 dps or some shit
Somebody has the weapon dps calculations
It feel so weird having the r-99 at B tier I remember when it was pretty much the best gun in the game
Fr
Nah the r-99 is insane for me, I one clip people before they break my shield, it’s insane, I’d put it a or s
The CAR is just the newer, better version of the r-99 sadly
@@lukaszz3521 I still wouldn’t put it above the CAR
@@elliotlawver5011 the car is not better at all r9 is best gun for close range 1 clips if you don’t miss your shots.
C tier for life. Been wrecking with all them this season.
S+ Tier :
Charge Rifle
R-301
Havoc (W/ Turbocharger)
C.A.R.
S Tier :
Wingman
Mastiff & Peacekeeper
Devotion (W/ Turbocharger)
Prowler
Rampage
A Tier :
30-30
Triple Take
Hemlok
Havoc & Devotion
Mozambique (W/ Hammerpoints)
B Tier :
EVA-8
Bocek
L-Star
R-99
Sentinel
RE-45 (W/ Hammerpoints)
C Tier :
P2020 (W/ Hammerpoints)
RE-45
Mozambique
D Tier :
P2020
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I won a 10K match with Bangalore solo with only RE-45 and Moza using Hammer Points.Every gun is good just get better hitting your shot.
I got a 2,500 damage game with the rampage and re-45 with hammers
Im sorry but you're high even after the nerf the triple take is still disgusting, its good at close medium and long range has amazing damage and uses easy to find ammo
No it’s trash
Current 2 favourite guns r301 and the bow
I really like R301 but I feel like I'm better with Alternator🤷♂️ fav combo: alternator and mastiff
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Here’s a tip for Mozambique.
Do not use this in absolute close ranges when in a shotgun fight. It’s not a shotgun, it’s a shotgun pistol. Treat it like a wingman, staying a nice distance away as you pepper them with reliable damage.
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I can’t be the only one who feels the car and prowler got a shadow buff of some sort because they are much better than last season to me
Where are u putting the flatline ?
Where can I find the stats for these weapons?
Does that discord link even work? Everytime I try n join i do the verification and it will not let me in.
Mozambique with purple bolt and hammerpoints is INSANE
Is rev good for ranked ? Asking for a friend
I think this is the first video I've seen that I whole heartedly disagree with most of the ratings. Had me shook with some of the placements tbh!
I still love your content and often use to check myself whenever I'm getting wiped in games! Thank you for making these!
Bruh if you're not agreeing with 90% of this list you're a straight up bot
Alternator is S+ in my opinion, it is versatile and sprays
B4 the mega nerf p2020 I was able fire p2020 as fast as r 301
With the hop up change I think the bocek is better
Old L-star was not a meme, more like underrated S+ tier gun... New L-star is just a meme
when the Lstar first came out it was a joke, when it first got placed on ground loot it was a joke, it was only good for 1 season and now its back to being a joke
@@GameLeapApexLegendsGuidess L-star on the ground was the most slept on gun in the game. Giant bullet size with amazing headshot multiplier, gun being absolute beam mid to close range and fairly easy to control long range + when you shot at someone your bullets were blocking his view. L-star was S+ tier gun the entire gun, you basically had full auto long range shotgun with built in flash.
Why put Volt in care package and flatline in crafting 🤨🤨 now everyone uses R301 or care package weapons this is a joke
I'd give the hammer point p20 a bit more credit
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The Bow is the best console marksman in the game right now. It’s basically the Sniper Peacekeeper from the early seasons with a faster fire rate, silence and no reload. You just gotta try it. It’s cheating. I run it with the Car and only drop it for the Kraber
No triplr take and repeater better
Personal opinion if ur aim is good and u have good recoup control the r99 shreds
a lot of guns can shred if you can control the recoil, apex has very fast TTK's. but just ebcause you personally find success with a gun doesnt mean its high tier. i love the P20 with hammers, its very satisfying but in terms of meta it just gets outclassed by a lot of other guns
@@GameLeapApexLegendsGuidess the r99 has the same ttk as the car. The car is still batter because its stuiped op design. +Recoil. The r99 is straight down so its much easier to control for most players
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bro man really put the hammerpoint p20 into C tier
Bro put r9 below Alternator BC of one clip capabilities even tho alt is worse
Apex having a very dynamic meta is simultaneously really cool and really annoying
One hand, I kinda like shaking things up a bit, trying out the Hemlok where previously I might go Wingman. Other hand.... it gets annoying when it's like "Great. _No volt_?!"
How is the r99 b
P2020 hammerpoints has the highest % increase you missed on that rating
Peacekeeper and devotion is good
R99>C.A.R.
I just understand how you can put a gun in S tier when you say you HAVE to hit all your shots. Maybe I am biased.
RE45-Hammer Points B tier alright lol what game do you play
Is anyone going to mention how the Alternator has higher damage and mag size than the 301?
Agreed just the range at that point man
'your junk will be looking S tier" XD
I use r301 and wingman
Daring today are we
R9 is still s+ don’t know what your talking everything you said about the r9 can be said about the car. For the car to 1 clip u need a mag at least a level 3 for you too 1 clip a red gibby u can’t miss 1 shot so don’t know how the car is higher than the r9
the R9 hasnt been S+ in many seasons, the DPS just isnt there and others have surpassed it.
the CAR has higher DPS, more versatility in terms of ammo and attachments and can do a lot more in close range fights
@@GameLeapApexLegendsGuidess ^
The car only does a little bit more damage then the r9 i find the r9 better bc of the easier recoil than the car
Agreed. I think the r9 and re hammers should at least be in A tier.
@Howie Hammond 2 damage different. 2!!! Its a non factor by this point (not 2 per bullet its 199 dps to 201. )the car is still batter by one rank because its bullshit op design thats pretty will kick the r99 out of the sandbox or be so bad to balance it so it will be usless .
Idk if it's j me but do I see cod zombies perk bottles in the background?
yes you do, made them myself
Flatline is still insane
I can never find a flatline tho or is it just me?🥺💔
@@yhetuff they're in the crafter u have to craft them
@@yhetuff Lmao
@@yhetuff someone didn't read the patch notes
actually, the re45 is beter than the r99, car and alternator and should be at least in the A tier, it does more damage, you move faster and it has better recoil than the 301
Re45 is not better than the r9 or alternator
I'm just happy it's 13 min and not 50
I disagree with the bow placement
Running the 30-30 with shatter caps? It automatically comes with it
no it automatically shoot shattered on hip fire it you have the attachment
Ok now I don't even have to watch this entire video and I can definitely tell you this is entirely cap. It depends on how you use the weapon, aim, headshot accuracy, etc. Because Ive seen pros with a p20 beat out someone who is using a fully kitted r99 it's just a matter of how you use the weapon and how much you've practiced with said gun
You want to tell me an altinator would be better than a r99???
So your trying to tell me the alternater is better than the r99
Lol I’ve lasered more people across map in arena w 45, all I use
i disagree with the C.A.R recoil its like the r9 but a bit more wiggle
Wait do you think it not S+ or do think the recoil is hard or the recoil is easy for me the C.A.R recoil is easy
I disagree with r-9 placement it’s the Fastest TTK in the game I would say at lowest A tier but to say it’s in the same tier as the bow is crazy
@@MorphFPS im saying the C.A.R recoil is easier that he made it out to be
its not the fastest TTK in the game
It’s trash
i'd swap r99 and charge rifle
30 30 D- , I really don't know who is using repeater except when they need to pick it up in the begining...
eva 8 is lowkey getting better again
Peacekeeper got more busted with kinetic feeder
R-99 B!? No way
Shotguns do way too low dmg at close range. A kraber will oneshot someone at 300m with a headshot, there has to be a shotgun version too. But even with a PK shooting into your face point blank you'll live most likely.
It's just normal gaming rules. The longer it takes to reload between shots, the harder the dmg must be. the average dmg output has to be similar in order to create balance and not making useless or OP weapons.
But yet the shotguns are utter shit. If im fighting at close range, and it takes me two perfect headshot hits with a shotgun to kill someone, and the person can use a R99 and oneclip me even tho it has lowest per bullet dmg, something is wrong.
When someone snipes at you from outer space and destroying your shields and half your HP in one hit, you seek cover. When you rush someone and they start shooting at you with a pumpgun, you don't give a shit.
My question is, What smg has a comfortable ttk on a hobby with red eco that isn’t a lmg? Because the dome and shield make it a bit hard. While you can beam with the r99 on pretty much every other legend. Now this is you’re video, You’re bias but you cant just say it’s low tier.
CAR prowler and volt before package have the DPS to kill gibby. CAR has the highest DPS out of the SMGS
@@GameLeapApexLegendsGuidess but the worst recoil I would argue. And the weirdest recoil pattern out of them all. And what I would argue as the least reliable off drop.
You don’t even see players like Timmy or seraph, Ashton, or anyone who is a pred run the car late game or at all. They run others guns like r99 or r301. The prowler is only good up close, the damage drop off is what kills it.
@@GameLeapApexLegendsGuidess And as a side note, Kinda funny that you liked and hearted you’re own reply. Just to make it look like someone of a vast majority agrees.
@@captpootis8495 use pk, smgs are cant compare
@@Titanus2057 the weapon that has a chance to only do 8-9 damage? Plus at range smg’s
still dominate over it.
Shiela SS+
Mozambique is at least A
The bocek is meta idk what this is
I completely disagree on the re hammer points
It’s broke
Nah its underwhelming at best
No
Why would CAR be so much higher then the r99
Because its better
Why does wraith look high in the thumbnail tho
"Grind your way into a girl's DM's"
Isn't that a felony???
Mozambique is A Tier. Even without hammerpoints. Seriously, have you even tried it?