Remaking Rare ltd.'s lost DREAM 64
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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2024
- Polysoft aims to re-create Rare LTD's Project Dream - a fantasy RPG that originated on the Super Nintendo before transitioning to the N64. Dream never saw the light of day, as it slowly evolved into Banjo Kazooie.
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I wish more developers would just release old prototypes so that their scrapped work could at least be appreciated by others and have some historical value.
Legal consequences
I think just having them to describe the games in itself with detail is enough
The footage they showed in Rare Replay was super dated compared to what they’d actually accomplished at the time, to my understanding. There’s the singular screenshot of Edison that been available for as long as I can remember, and it looks significantly better than what they showed in 2015. They did the same thing with Twelve Tales. This is cool but I’d be interested in a more imaginative recreation, if that makes sense. Not to bash on this of course
Seeing that video from Tim stamper of this game, twelve tales, and the Zelda 64 space world demo fills me with whimsy that at some point in my life time I will be able to play all three... It's something to look forward too at least.
For Zelda 64, I think the reason is obvious
That's kinda funny that this was uploaded now.
I was just thinking about the possibility of some kind of recreation or reboot of Rare's Dinosaur Planet
I'm curious to see how development for this goes. Given there's so little to go off of for the 64 version, I suppose they could pull some stuff from footage of the SNES version. But otherwise, unless Tim releases more info on the dev cart he has (which I'm doubting at this point) or a leaked build winds up on the internet somehow, I feel like this would either end with recreating what we have for Dream as accurately and polished as they can or diving into speculative territory.
I feel like a better idea would be to either recreate the SNES build of Dream, or the original 2.5D version of Banjo
2.5D version of Banjo IS released shortly, thanks to Marko Kuro Mods! But yes, SNES -version is what we actually want.
Always wanted to play this game and Donkey Kong Racing.
It's hilarious that they replicated the glitched shadow so accurately!
It looks like Dream 64 renders the character's outline and makes a texture from it just once, but somehow fails to generate or copy any more frames after that.
Very cool! Good luck with further development!
Pre Banjo-Kazooie
This is badass. Thanks for uploading and covering
Let's hope the developer releases the Dream 64 and Twelve Tales N64 games someday for us to play because man these just look so super duper awesome and so does this footage you just showed off here in this video too Tony!
God, this is amazing! Thanks for showing it!
As a huge fan of Rare/Capcom games, I am quite intrigued by how this recreation in the early stage turned out.
Wow. What a dream. I feel there was alot of games isometric and looking like baldurs gate that was never tried
I’m guessing it would be a series of themed levels this being the pirate one.
One of the team that worked in Banjo said there’s some game play on Tim’s Beta cart.
Great stuff, but I have to say that the SNES version is the one I would have liked to play the most.
I love it when folks do stuff like this!
We're better off with Banjo-Kazooie anyway, but imagine if it was on the SNES.
They needed a good game with good gameplay, not huge prerendered characters and ugly environments with the worst control ever imagined, it would have failed hard on the SNES because it probably would have been very empty, as an RPG.
Hence why it was scrapped...
@@GeomancerHT Personally I think that the SNES version was looking wayyyy better than the N64 version lol
I'd literally take anything (but yooka laylee) at this point.
@@BBWahoo As opposed to figuratively or metaphorically taking anything else?
The word LITERALLY has lost all meaning from being thrown around too much these days, you're not a character from The Loud House.
Shame it didn't stay on the SNES, it looked really polished from the footage you showed!
I would still love to see the snes version made into a game
I don’t understand why Tim won’t dump twelve tales. I get Mario and Zelda cause he doesn’t own those and I get Dream because it’s so early in development but he really needs to leak twelve tales after what the fans did to dinosaur planet. You would think he’d want his fans to appreciate it instead of hoarding it to himself. He should at least play through it and post it. Even if it’s through Microsoft something needs to be done and the game needs to be released one day. I don’t think we should give up so easily. It’s not like we’re asking for much tbh
Legal reasons most likely. He doesn't own the rights, Rare does.
Banjo is better than what they'd originally planned.
@@KamiKitsuneVA well then the fans should pester microsoft
@@beaner2189Knowing Microsoft they’ve done nothing more than what they could be obligated to do from the Rare Replay project.
He worked on the game under contract it isn't his intellectual property
Love 64/Rare juices!
wait how the heck did I not know about this game?!
Nice a new video about a N64 game ! Tony ftw very interesting Dream 64 looks very nice too.
It's funny how it looks so much better on the Super Famicom over the Nintendo 64. Good example of how art style can beat graphics.
So cool!
could of been good April fools joke saying it got leaked
I wonder if there are any Easter Eggs of this game in Sea of Thieves.
This will kinda be hard, given that they have no full flegded script to follow on, but nevertheless i would still be surprised how they will pull this one off.
Even IF RARE LTD was making this RPG on the Super Nintendo and later the N64, I really believe we should not assume nor expect that this was going to be an "RPG" like we know of from back in the 90s... at best all this game was was a development concept so for the programmers and designers at the old 90s RARE, it would be safe to see them re-evaluating their ideas and coming to the conclusion of what was possible given that the early 3d era was still heavily about these professional game programmers figuring out how to design any game on the 3d polygon world let alone make for the custom hardware of the N64.
Basically it was much safer to revise their ideas and thus the game project and it makes far more sense as Banjo Kazooie 1... note that other old RARE N64 games felt like arcade like tech demos where they were exploring the potential of the 3d power of the N64 in the first couple of years so it wasn't like RARE were all of a sudden expert programmers on N64 and 3d games which ironically they DID become as they really flexed some incredible power and made some shocking gameplay design like Goldeneye 007 while other FPSs just looked primitive and backwards like the leap between 8bit to 16bit especially if you paid attention to the details.
Also their RPG idea would have made more sense on the Super Nintendo as a prerendered CGi 2d game than a 3d game especially when RPGs kinda need larger install base anyway.
Maybe they can take this dream and make something cool. Looks like it has early glimmers of a potential collect a thon.
While this is really cool, I think this group really needs to focus on one thing at a time.
They should add ocorina of time parts
This is so cool
I felt like it could have been some Zelda clone with Rare humour at best.
Oh yeah very snazzy
tbh i feel like id rather someone remake the snes one
Looked better on SNES
I mean of course.
early 3d has a rougher look compared to the more refined 2d graphics that we got in the mid 90s.
That said 3d still took of because it was a big leap forward in gaming.
Beautiful pre-rendered pixel art on the SNES looking better than flat shaded, muddy textured, low poly, sadly animated N64 games? You don't say! 😅
SNES stood the test of time. The N64 is better left to good memories.
Imagine if Banjo-Kazooie was on the Super Nintendo.
Keep in mind, Banjo is one of the few N64 games that still visually looks good.
@@mihd9874 What are the other ones?
Sorry that this is completely unrelated to this video(I like to try and stay on topic), but did you know there was a playable Demo of the original Gameboy version of Zelda Link's Awakening at the Winter 1993 Consumer Electronics Show? I've looked everywhere for information on it, but I can't find anything. someone else did find 2 videos showing it off they're on the game's Prerelease Page on The Cutting Room Floor. The event was held in January of 93 so It was long before the game was released in Japan. Does anyone know anything about it?
Is the original demo running on real hardware? With that kind of draw distance and the vibrant colors, it looks more like it's running on a SGI workstation
The recreation looks more accurate, to how it would have looked in a real N64
I think it is running on N64, there's misting and repetive textures, kind of early N64 look, but good enough what you would espect by suberb developer.
i really prefer the snes version, but this is cool too
i added bread in that game TuT why didnt u eat them
Chest is correct though it looks printed however below it the polygon is all wrong it's not suppose to slop and should fit with the chest in the geometry structure seen in the original real prototype comparison.
Hope it's structured right since this feels low like Commonrare not Rare.
How do we get him to dump those protos he has?!?!
He won't, unfortunately. He has no interest in doing it. Also may or not have the rights to do so.
That's fine that he doesn't wanna do it, Banjo-Kazooie was more worth the time and effort anyway.
I think we should all just pretend to stop caring about it so he'll share more footage lol. He seems to only post stuff about it to rile up angry nerds who spam him to tell him to dump them, so if people stop paying attention to him maybe he'll post more to try and get more attention.
@@hard4gameshas he said himself that he doesn’t want to do it? Or that he legally can’t? If so I guess that’s his prerogative but I feel like if he can see how much the game means to his fans he would like to release it. I’m sure it’s a legal problem(which could be worked around) because it would make no sense for him not to want to give this to the fans
Blackmail, coercion
It's cool as fuck.
I can't believe you haven't done a video on Riqa yet. Unreleased n64 game that just was released.
It's in the works
@@hard4games awesome!
Released!
@@hard4games I saw it thank you, super excited to see all the levels and characters.
I don't wanna shit on fans making stuff for fun, but somehow, even with all the modern tools and hardware, this remade version still looks worse than what Rare was doing back there 30 years ago. The running animation was so much better.
But the original was made by a professional team with official development tools. This recreation was made by amateurs in their spare time.
It's not like you could easily recreate something by just seeing it anyways
You could only get close if there was a decomp or disassembly
@ssg-eggunner When it comes to animation, it's just down to the talent. Not decompilation.
Why did they put it into 3D when it clearly didn't benefit at all from that change graphically?
It's just how the industry was at the time. Everything had to be 3d for the sake of 3d. Kids didn't want 2d anymore, it seemed so old and last gen, and publishers were equally as afraid of 2d games since everyone wanted this new-fangled 3d on everything. It may seem silly now, but that's just how it was.
It pisses me off that Tim Stamper is trolling the world 😡
There's a right moment to leak stuff and its before the systems audience moves on. It effectively dies then. No need to tease unfinished games only one person has access to.
yo
Mabe the point of the game is that the ship wrecks because of a storm and his crew members are scattered in all the islands you get the crew members and like to get the treasure to upgrade your boat to reach further islands they can have 10 islands 2 with male pirates 2 with female pirates pets on different islands for the ship crew 2 cats male female 2 parrot male female and the main characters wife pirate on the final island your boat gets bigger as you go from island to island and then in the final island 11 you collect the treasure and the evil pirate has a boss battle because he wants the last treasure before you can max upgrade your ship you fight giant sea creatures and then fight him on his ship and make him walk a plank into the water the crew celebrates and he is shown floating in a barrel in the water the game continues and you can play as other characters on 3 islands one for each family male and female 1 family has the cats and 1 family with the parrots then the main character and wife has to find 2 pets both horses and live on that island you can upgrade building on your islands by going to other islands you have been to earlier in the game the crew have 1 ship so you can switch to thr other 2 familys but they cant leave the island they just play the pets and enter the buildings they build the can feed on fish and you can save the game to upgrade buildings you play as the main character and pick up the family from the island you can put everyone on the boat all 6 pets and 6 crew members and send the family you want to upgrade the island for to get tresure once everything is upgraded you just play around for fun walking around the islands also all characters and pets can vist any home island of the other 3 family's but mabe once a family 100% a island they have 1 child like 1 family island has boy and another a girl and then the main character has a boy and a girl and they can be friends or get married to the boy or girl from the other islands since they are not related like girl main character and boy crew family 1 that family has cats and boy main character and crew family 2 girl that family has parrots ok i hope the developers can use this to build a great gane
Basically the boat can hold a total of 6 crew 4 crew kids and 6 pets the final part of this game would be the 4 kids being friends with each other and that could start another game
This looks pretty bad. lol
It looks like they mistook the rocky hills for dirt paths.
Some of it looks ok, like the huts.
please i want to play dream 64 prjoect
Man, it would be so cool if he could dump the original. Just for preservationists' sake.
Snes Version >>>>> N64 Version
The main hero needs to have more solid poliginal spikey hair and needs a slightly more 90s anime-ish look to him and we need him to use sword slashing and other cool attacks. We also need more characters and some enemies and boss fights
the SNES version looked better
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The SNES version looks better, imho
Man, I hate seeing these fan-made remakes, because the original game will become irrelevant or confusing if it gets leaked.
Second
It's not a race, learn to be original!
First!!
Unoriginal!