BMW S1000XR Triple Black | The Best Sports Tourer?
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2022
- Is the BMW S1000XR Triple Black the best sports touring motorcycle? I go for a ride and review the S1000XR to see if it could be the best sports tourer on the market. With the inline 4 cylinder engine from the S1000RR it is so much more than just an ordinary sports tourer!
With pure racing DNA at its heart the S1000XR is definitely on the sportier side. A very fast and capable touring bike.
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getting the word Wuss, after riding sports bikes for 30 years this is the perfect pensioner bike if you can`t cope with high footpegs, wrist ache and back pain but you still want to show up boy racers that cant ride , what a perfect machine for us 58 legends , 64 with a bike that can own 25 year olds in comfort, whats not to like, thank you BMW, oh and you can tour on it for weeks with no discomfort
This is a beast of a bike! I would take it over a sports bike any day. Much better value for money, still crazy fast and as you say great for touring etc...
Very fair appraisal, I have a 22 M Sport and have owned a GS and 3 Gses, the GS is is probably the best all round motorcycle ever built but it does'nt make me feel like the XR does. Below 5000 rpm I find it quite a relaxed ride and spent 2 weeks in Spain on it, I found it a comfortable tourer. Over 5000 though, the growl from the intake, the smoothest quick shifter i've ever used and the aggressive pull from the motor is the most addictive feeling i've ever had on a bike
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review 👍 I think the GS suits my style of riding more, but I can definitely see the appeal of this crazy engine when you rev it out. Just need some nice smooth roads. Cheers
The extraordinary capabilities of this bike is that after getting hot enough which happens very quickly, the bike is a doll to handle in every condition, in every type of road. It gives everything that you demand from it with no hesitation or complaints…it’s comfortable and turns you into a much better rider than what in reality you are. Of course that out there, you can find bikes that you may find easier to handle in general, but here, the thing is that this is not a bike that you can ride it ignoring the machine. You’re obligated to respect the machine that this bike is. Nothing else. If you give it the deserved respect she will behave as the bike of your dreams. With great liberty comes big responsibility. And if that’s your state of mind, so the BMW S 1000 XR is the perfect bike. One of a kind 👌🏻
I get the feeling you quite like it!! 👍
It is an amazing machine, too be honest I found it a bit too bonkers for UK roads. I prefer the delivery of a slightly lazier/torque engine.
Can see this bike coming into its own on a track or faster/smoother roads.
@@redangrevival thanks for replying.
I see what you’re saying, besides the fact of the actual bike electronics adjustments turned the savage nature of it into a very civilized piece of machinery, it will always be asking you to take the fast lane or a more sporty ride…it’s like some pets. Some dogs or some horses will demand from their owners specific living conditions and if you don’t provide that, they can ruin your life just because you’re doing that same mistake with them. So, it isn’t a total story of having fun. To own a bike like this, requires some “work” from you. And that’s why I said in my comment “ with great liberty, comes big responsibility”. These type of machine makes sense to me, because I’m 57 years old and the passion for bikes has been there since I can remember my self of existing and I feel this is the right time to have it (at the last part of a long extent of time experience with every kind of similar and other different bikes). Although, I still keep my T120 for shorter and relaxed weekend rides😉
Be well and thanks for joyful content ✌️
I absolutely love my 1250GS, I bet I’d love this as much or more, but I know I’d get in trouble owning such a monster ! Beautiful bike. I loved all the Triumphs and other bikes I’ve owned over the years. However there is something special with the engineering and riding a BMW. 👍
It is a very impressive bike, but too be honest a bit too much for me. Think I prefer the GS, for it's more relaxed riding style. This would be amazing on track or very smooth fast flowing roads.
Completely agree, never fail to be impressed with BMW engineering!
I have 2021 in gray absolutely love it. Great review and you have awesome hair.🦁
Haha many thanks and really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 It is one wild bike (and hair do!) Would love to get the bike on some mountain passes. Cheers
Is there a difference between 2020 and 2021 model?
@@gianni3774 no. Or maybe the calipers on the late 2021 bikes have brembo calipers
I think you nailed it when you said 'a superbike on stilts'
Haha 👍
Nice review . Vibes did it for me ! So I went for the Gs1250.
Thanks I appreciate it 👍 I would also definitely go for the GS, just prefer the softer/laid back riding style and the power delivery.
Hmm… an Adventure Supermoto with an inline 4?! Interesting but I’ll keep my 1290 SAS, thank you! 😊
Great video… again! 😃👍🏻
Cheers!
Thanks glad you enjoyed the video 👍 It is a bonkers engine in this bike, bit too wild for me too be honest!
I would definitely go for the KTM over it. Cheers
If not obsessed with peak horsepower and the thrill of the occassional blast up the rev range there are better sport/tour options even in the BMW catalog. The F900XR while seemingly massively down on power surprises in its all around competence and enjoyment. I moved from a K1300 (amazing power as well) to the F900XR and other than the top end thrill, the lighter, more agile twin seems a better solution for me. I ride the twisties as fast and in some cases faster than my buddies on their 4 cylinder machines. But some folks love multies and some love twins. Thank goodness we have such nice choices!
Same I think this bike was a little too much for me to be honest! Just not relaxing enough. This is also one of the more "manic" 4 cylinders in the segment.
For touring and everyday riding I would take a twin, use that nice low down torque to its max 👍 Cheers
No. I know you won't understand, but if you have ridden big power bikes for 20+ years, like super sport bikes, anything without the power of a 1000... How best to explain it.... It's like a watered down beer. It's still beer, but it's not good enough. Seriously, once you're comfortable on a big bike, twisting the throttle on a 600-900 etc, it's just a bit underwhelming. And you don't have to be doing 200+, even up to 100 the power is just more enjoyable. As you say, good options everywhere, but some of us can't go less power. It's just a bit like what my grandma would ride.
@Ryan Inc I get your point. But after 50 years of riding I can smoke most riders on much less power by using the power band effectively of a modestly powered bike. The large percentage of riders who ride high horsepower high RPM bikes rarely ride them at or anywhere near their peak horsepower RPM. Frankly it scares them. The vast majority short shift and rely on capacity to get drive. Riding my older boxer twin I had guys on GSXRs that I would drop and leave in the rear view mirror. A fast guy on an average bike will be much faster than an average guy on a fast bike. Sadly, very few people can reasonably exploit the power of the big superbikes. They are a thrill for most in a straigh line but overall riding conditions including tight twisty stuff they can be awkward and clumsy for folks who are incapable of putting the 180+ hp to the ground. The massive power on the top end can (and does) catch people out. 100 usable, friendly, tractable horsepower is easier to leverage than 180 hp that manifests itself at 12-15,000 RPM as opposed to a lower revving bike at 6-8,000 RPMs. In the groups I ride with I'm at the front and challenging buddies who are on bikes with 50-70% more power. Honestly it's fun embarrassing them. Especially when I'm 70yrs old on a middleweight and they're 35 yrs old using their big horsepower heavyweights to make them manly. For my "fun bike" I have a 1989 Suzuki RGV 250cc 2 stroke (60 hp) that also embarrasses the guys on the Ducati club rides up in the hills. Big and powerful is overrated.
@@sunrisejak2709 I think at 70 that's a very reasonable! And agree, a lot of younger, or not even younger, but inexperienced riders, think that power = speed. But there is the middle ground, guys not yet quite 70, experienced, who can get the most, maybe not all, out of the big bikes. Not even Rossi on a smaller bike will come close. But I think you're right - for a lot, the 600-900 range is more than enough.
@Ryan Inc I think we're both passionate about our motorcycling and that's what matters most! 😁One worrying statistic though is that more veteran US military returning from Iraq and Afghanistan were being killed from motorcycle accidents than in the line of duty. This prompted the US government to enact motorcycle safety training as returning vets would buy hyperbikes and such and sadly kill themselves. 🥺 That's scary and terrible situation. 😬 A different kind of missle! But I love riding and will continue until someone has to lift me on and off the damn thing! 😂 Ok, ok, To be honest I do miss (sometimes)the 165hp of the K1300. 😉 So just a friendly exchange among two guys who love 2 wheels. Valentino Rossi,,, there'll never be another like him. MotoGP is not the same anymore. 😢 But that's another discussion. 😊 Cheers,
I ride the 22 M Sport with full options in white livery. To get the low height you need the low suspension version which I have (special ordered). Just the low seat would only do few mms. Absolute review you did there about the bike itself. The most amazing bike I ever owned!
That is very useful to know thanks 👍 I was not aware of the low suspension model to get the lowest seat height!
A premium bike with a bonkers engine haha, very much for the experienced rider! Would love to take it on track.
Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review. Cheers
Great review - and I like that handlebar bag! What brand is it?
Many thanks I appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the review 👍 It is actually meant for bicycles, it is from a shop called Halfords
Looks fab I'd luv ta ride one interesting ! 👌👍
👍 it’s a blast
I loved the transition from 'Holy Cr*p this is phenomenal' to 'Wait there's an annoying rattle'. In my opinion the latter is a singular redeeming characteristic. The teutonic moulded 'Vorsprung Durch Technik' Über machine excels to propel the rider with supreme efficiency. I want a bike with faults and flaws, and that elusive but endearing 'character'. Arranging, real time, the purchase of the REborn Classis 350, with the dealer, as I'm watching this great review of the Das Raumschiff Enterprise.
Vorsprung durch Technik is Audi not BMW.
Haha it scrambled my brain!! I know exactly what you mean about the unique faults and flaws of a bike, often making it the best thing about the bike. This BMW definitely has its faults though.
Hope your purchase goes smoothly, that is more my style of bike 👍 Cheers
@@redangrevival thanks Angus! It's winter, with snow, here in New Hampshire. Dumb time to buy? Probably: but getting a winter discount!
@@jamesdspaderf2883 Always a bonus buying in winter, get great deals and something to look forward when summer arrives 👍
Delivery this Friday 25th November :))))
Sat on a S1000xr and a Multistrada V2s last week. At 6' 3" the V2s fit me perfect, XR was not bad but definitely more of a sporty position. -- Range would be the only thing that kills it as the best sports touring bike.
I would personally go for the V2S! I just found the S1000XR to be too intense for my style of riding. A great bike though and if you prefer sportier riding then the S1000XR will not fail to impress. Cheers
@@colinandrews9066 - Leg position is more sporty between the two
The difference in vibration between a four cylinder bike and a V-Twin or parallel twin with a 270 degree crank like your Speedmaster is the frequency. Four cylinders have a higher frequency which numbs the extremities.
Yup this is very true! I have ridden 4 cylinders before but this BMW I found the worst for vibrations! Think it varies from person to person though.
My exact observations when giving a s1000xr a test run recently. Went with a SDR instead, as my second bike to accompany my r1250rt.
The vibes of the V-twin are very pleasant by comparison.
Rode it as well and did not like to riding position, sadle and the pickup of the engine at idle revs. Very lumpy from stand still, nice and fast after that. Went for the Multistrada V4S full instead.
I agree with all your points! Its a great bike for what it is designed for, but I would also go for the V4S over it.
Just found it a bit too intense!
Bought the Multi V2S with a ‘mere’ 115hp, it’s a better sports tourer with an engine that you can fully use on the road and plenty of torque, better gearbox too. This obsession with power is just for the bragging rights, no use on the road and I should know😉
A great buy and I would also personally go for the V2S over this BMW. Too crazy engine for me, not relaxing enough! Would have the BMW for track use but on road, the V2S every time 👍
Thanks.
👍 It’s my pleasure
I owned the previous gen, buzzy it is but didn’t bother me, bar end weights sort it. Owned it for two years. The new version is ok. I rode it twice as a contender to replace my GS, which is a bit sterile. I found the low down grunt on the XR lacking, not much use on real road riding. I went KTM SAS after many other test rides. It’s the right bike for me! BRAAAAAAP!
👍 Yup I can imagine some bar end weights would massively help with the vibrations. I would also take the SAS over it, just prefer the low down torque and V-Twin.
The S1000XR was a bit bonkers for me, harder to use on road.
Cheers
@@redangrevivalcheers pal. Keep up the good work.
I had a GS (1250) for two years, did 36000 kms on it and was very tempted by the XR every time I saw one at the dealer. After doing some research, I stumbled upon the Ninja 1000sx, sport tourer, inline four, panniers. I read in several comparisons on Austrian and Italian sites that it was a more useable sport tourer than the XR, had one for a couple of hours and was smitten.
Love that bike, very torquey for an inline four. Still do long trips and weekends with my mates on big adventure bikes and it's more agile and fun.
@@carlosalonso9866 👍 Yes I love the Z1000SX, such a creamy smooth engine. I would have it over the 1000xr!
I reckon the new Guzzi V100 Mandello is the new best overall sport tourer on the market - class bike does everything, not common, what’s not to love?
I have not ridden the V100 Mandello yet, but going off the looks I think you could be right 👍Very cool and ideal amount of useable power!
Hi for a sport tourer test the Yamaha fjr 1300 it will blow your mind.
Regards barry
Hi Barry, thanks yes I would really like to ride the fjr 👍 Shame they have stopped making them.
I love my mk 1 XR. Vibes don't bother me at all, now I have weighted bar ends. Engine is exciting and screams all the way up but it can be hard to restrain yourself and not go bonkers on it and lose your license. Suspension could soften out some bumps a tad better but otherwise is been a totally brilliant bike. Not ridden the gen 2 but will do so in time.
👍 glad you are enjoying it so much. Yup I think some people just don't feel the vibes, and yea some bar end weights are a great idea!
Haha too be honest I found it a bit too bonkers for me, would definitely get myself into trouble. Can for sure see the appeal though. Cheers
I love my 21 XR.. I tried the GS and although comfortable, felt like an agricultural machine compared to the XR… Take the XR past 5k revs and hold on… 😆😮🤣
👍 It is one exciting bike and very comfortable at the same time! Yup that engine loves to rev compared to the GS
I bought a new xr in april this year by august i had had enough i came from a z1000sx. I found these faults too top heavy pegs are in the way not enough low grunt kept struggling to pull away uphill fully loaded takes too long to get upto speed . So i part exed for my r1250gsa rallye. All is well for me no negatuves with the gsa its a beast
Sorry to hear that, but I completely understand where you are coming from! I feel the same way and would also go for the GS over the 1000XR. The XR has a bonkers engine at high revs, but too much for me. Prefer the useable torque and pulling power of the GS
Hope you continue to enjoy your GS 👍
@@redangrevival there is no way i wont continue to love the gs i already had experience if owning 2 hexhead rt models so i knew what the flat twin was all about. Also i had tried a 2019 r1250rt so i knew the 1250 was a great deal better than the already capable hexhead. The s1000xr can be remapped to give way more punch off the throttle. Just think the xr is too tall for the inline 4 also the bmw inline 4 is rattly both 1st gen and 2nd gen i am a bmw convert now though i think i may join a bmw club i also notice other gs owners are usualky happy to chat over the bikes
@@austinmatthews347 I feel I may one day also be a BMW convert! The GS has been my dream bike since I was a child 👍
@@redangrevival i have slagged the boxer engine off in the past thats just ignorance
I'm sure it's very impressive but, of the BMWs, I'd prefer a flat twin. I'd also rather have a flat seat. I don't like being locked in place. Is that your handlebar bag, Red? If so, what is it? Interesting rear rack arrangement. Sideways moving. Hadn't heard of that.
Yes a good point, although it is a very comfortably sculpted seat, I also prefer the option to adjust position on longer rides.
Yes, it is actually meant for bicycles! I got it from a shop called Halfords, sorry no model name on it!
Same very clever option for the rear rack, not too sure how well it really works, but like the idea 👍
@@redangrevival A bicycle bag. I'll find one here. Just the job for my SCR's cross bar.
@@user-sw2lv3zp6o 👍 its great, fits on most motorbikes!
@@redangrevival Thanks.
What bag are u using for your phone?
Its actually meant for bicycles! Got it from a shop called Halfords, sorry no model name on bag. Fits great on most bikes 👍
Have you tested the 2016 or later triumph tiger?.
👍 yes both the 900 and 1200 models. Great bikes, not as manic as this S1000XR!
@@redangrevival sorry I ment the tiger sport.
@@jamie66moto4 Have ridden the 660 model!
So for a sports tourer would you choose the XR or Kaw 1000sx
Probably the XR, however I think the Kawi is more comfortable!
Needs a can, velocity stacks and a tune.
You raised some good points there. The eye watering price aside, it's a lot of power you probably can't use, presumably the mpg will be fairly high, there's an awful lot of tech to go wrong and be distracting, and my personal opinion, I don't like screens that can obscure your view and that amount of power can cause people to ride aggressively and become impatient. On a more positive note, BMWs are thoughtfully and professionally made. I also like the way you can have different seat heights on them.
For mostly motorway driving, this could be fun.
Yes this bike is a bit too much for me really! I prefer the lower down torque of the GS. More appropriate power delivery for on a track really.
I am always impressed with the quality and premium finish of the BMW's. Each to their own I suppose, I think the screens can be distracting but I don't mind them.
Yes, totally personal opinion. As I've only ridden on my CBT, feeling the wind pushing past you, is still a pleasurable novelty 😊
@@lilynorthover8378 Yup there is definitely a certain pleasure of a "naked" bike, can feel the elements much more 👍
Is there an active fire or fog or is your lens dirty?
😂 very foggy unfortunately!
@@redangrevival fog is scary both on land and water...lol
@@lennykibbs260 Yup, even more so on water I recon
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Ultimate sports tourer errrrrr no, that would be the KTM Superduke GT, 175bhp & 141NM.
The bimmer is certainly good just not quite the KTM
Lot of vlogs watched say vibration dreadful?
Yes it is a problem with this bike. Improved for the 2021 model, but still there. Some people don't notice them at all, but I definitely did
@@redangrevival too much power for me at 64. Beast though, loving all ur reviews. Think I am saving for speedmaster
@@volt8684 Too much power for me at 33 haha! The Speedmaster is a completely different vibe altogether 👍
@@redangrevival just watched mark pulling review and had a bulldog 1100 same characteristics, get a test soon
Front suspension looks to be too bouncy. you cant even talk due to the shake. The electronic suspension need to factor in the total weight to make adjustments. that is not happening here. either of the damping is out of wack or the preload.
Too be honest they really where not ideal roads! Very bumpy UK back roads, it would be impressive for any bike this sporty to smooth out those roads.
That is the reason I think this bike is slightly too aggressive for my liking. Great fun though 😁
I think I've got glaucoma 😄
😂😂! Apologies terrible visibility and GoPro settings got messed up. Your all good haha
@@redangrevival check out a CZcams channel called Cuban Rider for some excellent S1000XR videos too
@@BN1960 👍 Thanks I will take a look
Am sure its nice to ride but def not my style👍
P.s I'd ride anything though.
haha same, I really enjoy anything on two wheels!! Just depends on the flavour. Bit too extreme this one!
Would be amazing on a race track 😁
Too much bike for me I think!! 😱
😂 same to be honest!! Have ridden more powerful bikes but this engine is bonkers!
IT'S THE ONLY BIKE I'VE RIDEN ALL THESE YEARS THAT YOU CAN'T BE LEGAL... I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY M ONE. 3 MONTHS FULL OF INSOMNIA UNTIL I HAVE IT IN MY GARAGE😂😂😂
😂 Enjoy the ride
@@redangrevival Thanks mate. Keep it up
I think this type of bike works better in North America where the roads are open and wide and generally in pretty good condition. This is not really a bike for blatting around the narrow country lanes in the UK . . .too manic.
Or smooth German roads and autobahns.
I completely agree and very well said 👍 Can imagine it being amazing fun on big smooth roads. But yes definitely too bonkers for our bumpy small roads!
@@redangrevival - quite interesting that MotoJitsu who lives in San Diego recently gave it top marks . . . but again wide good condition roads
@@Jagshemasher Yup I have seen a lot of his reviews recently, seems to give lots of bikes good marks! But yes on those roads, it would be great. Much better than kin the UK haha
Like most modern hi-po bikes. Amazing. Utterly pointless. You couldn't rag an RGV 250 anywhere in Eu bar autobahns these days without losing your license or jail. Happy with a v slow RK.
Yes this is sadly a true fact! I can definitely appreciate the power but too bonkers for me personally 🥴
20k for a Chain drive tourer? Nope.
Fair enough, but I think the price is more focused around the engine and tech
The answer to your question ("Is the BMW S1000XR Triple Black the best sports touring motorcycle?") is: No!
You'll need to get it in any other colour instead of that ugly Triple Black and then it's a YES! 😁😉
haha fair enough 👍
It might be fair to say it's a sports bike for tall riders?
BMWs have issues with vibes. Rode a 2019 S1000R a few years ago and that really suffered from vibes through the pegs and bars. I had to get off after 15 mins and then took it back to the dealer. Such a shame as loved the look of it and what it promised. Wish BMW would sort their vibey bikes out. Maybe they need to fit balancer shafts to their S1000 engine like Honda and other Jap bike manufacturers do with their big cc bikes?
Yup that describes it well (sports bike on stilts!) Yes this is the first time I have experienced the problem vibes. I am sure it is different for everyone, but I definitely noticed them.
Yes I suppose that could work, but surely BMW have thought of that already! It is true thought the Japanese inline 4 bikes do not suffer from vibes. Apparently this new 2021 model is better than the previous.
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