The Nebula was extremely versatile while also not being too resource intensive to build. Its modular design allowed it to carry out a large variety of missions in a package larger and newer than the Excelsior Class and older ships. It really was a ship that could do most anything the Galaxy could and then some. If I had to build a fleet, I would build lots of them as a mission specialist ship that can be modified in a couple days all on the base of a heavy cruiser. And, in wartime, it is easily made into a battlecruiser with the tactical pod.
I heard that the Nebula was originally intended to be smaller than the Galaxy in general, but they made it a Galaxy saucer with nacelles. It began as just a kit bash ship that was intended to be nothing more than a background ship at Wolf 359.
Exactly. It has basically the same internal volume as a Galaxy so I never bought the idea the Nebulas are cheaper to produce. Maybe if they gave her a less advanced warp core that is more fuel efficient but not as powerful…
@@ransom182 Judging by the interior of the Nebula Class, as seen when Data commanded the Southerland, I think the "cheap" part was the interior. Galaxy classes had all the frills, but Data's bridge was smaller and frankly "discount Federations". If the Galaxy was a Hilton in space, the Nebula was a Motel 6. Also it didn't have that fancy saucer section separation.
I think the Nebula's saucer is pretty much the same as the Galaxy's, possibly minus the separation technology. I imagine that most Nebula-class starships we saw on screen utilised the triangular-shaped mixed sensors/weapons pod, but the first - and only, if I'm right - appearance of the sensor variant was the USS Phoenix. Imagine Macet's anger had they used the more combat-oriented version. The USS Prometheus was originally a Nebula-class starship, and its replacement was attacked by such a ship. The USS Endeavour is apparently the only survivor of _both_ The Battle of Wolf 359 and The Battle of Sector 001... tough ship.
Thanks for doing another Ambassador class video, they never seem to get much love. Another cool channel to check out is Triangulum Audio Studios. He does a lot of backstory both cannon and not and has done several vids on the Nebula.
In the lore of Star Trek, After the first six Galaxy class ships were commissioned, Starfleet realized that building them was incredibly resource intensive. They commissioned the Nebula class as a cost cutter version of the Larger ships. They used the same spaceframe designs for the saucer, engineering hull and warp engines of the Galaxy class to make it, but they were just cut down in scale to save on production cost. A lot of the extra civilian amenities were also removed as a cost saving measure. The Nebula was meant to be more of a cost effective, mass produced ship to serve along side the more expensive Galaxy class ships. In modern terms it's like the Galaxy class ship would be the expensive aircraft carrier at the center of a battle group, and the Nebula classes would be a big chunk of the support fleet around it. I think the ratio was that for every Galaxy class ship built, you could build almost a half a dozen Nebula class ships, and that was the production numbers Starfleet tried to keep up.
I'd compare the two classes to the Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke class ships in the US Navy. The later was cheaper to make per unit though similar. Same with the F22 vs the F35.
6:1? I've never ever heard that anywhere. Nebula only has slightly less volume than a Galaxy, with fewer phaser columns and probably a little less fuel reserves. 6:1 is reaching even with Nebula subclass variety. Scaled-down kit-bashed ships are those of the New Orleans, Challenger, Springfield, even Cheyenne. As does Centaur take a scaled Excelsior hull and a Miranda weapons pod to create a distinctly smaller type, the Akira to the NX. There, you could undoubtedly build 6:1 or even 8:1, but why would you?
@@Euripides_Panz It's material I read in one of a number of Star Trek Technical manuals that were produced back in the 90's I had them all when I was a child.
This battle is about what I expected from both ships. The Advantage of having the replaceable mission pods with the nebula make a difference especially when it has the weapons pod attached.
The Nebula was a true Jack of all trades class of ship. The Only downside it had was that it took quite a long time to build, that being said the Galaxy was worse in that regard. The Mission pod was a great idea as you can give it anything you can fit in or on such a module 😁 I don't like the Galaxy Class too much for its First batch of ships that went boom, but the Nebula has always proven itself to be the Swiss Army Ship lol
If you look at the nebula that picked up the enterprise crew at the end of generations, it looked MASSIVE now given, it was sharing the screen with an oberth and a miranda i think, but i think the saucer on the nebula may be bigger than the galaxy.. i guess a good point of reference would be the TNG episode the wounded theres some good galaxy next to nebula shots in that episode
I always wonder what Ambassador are we talking about? The Wolf 359 version, the Enterprise C version, the post Dominion war version? All have very different power levels.
@@jkeelsnc And no exposed neck, plus no complicated equipment to detach the saucer section which also saves room. If I was in Starfleet and offered command of any ship in the pre DS9 era of TNG, I'd take a Nebula with a weapons pod first.
That would not go well for the Nebula. Watching the Defiant’s various fights, it’s clear that the Lakota’s phasers are significantly more powerful than a Vor’Cha class, and she has quantum torpedoes
The Nebula was extremely versatile while also not being too resource intensive to build. Its modular design allowed it to carry out a large variety of missions in a package larger and newer than the Excelsior Class and older ships. It really was a ship that could do most anything the Galaxy could and then some. If I had to build a fleet, I would build lots of them as a mission specialist ship that can be modified in a couple days all on the base of a heavy cruiser. And, in wartime, it is easily made into a battlecruiser with the tactical pod.
I heard that the Nebula was originally intended to be smaller than the Galaxy in general, but they made it a Galaxy saucer with nacelles. It began as just a kit bash ship that was intended to be nothing more than a background ship at Wolf 359.
Exactly. It has basically the same internal volume as a Galaxy so I never bought the idea the Nebulas are cheaper to produce. Maybe if they gave her a less advanced warp core that is more fuel efficient but not as powerful…
@@ransom182 Judging by the interior of the Nebula Class, as seen when Data commanded the Southerland, I think the "cheap" part was the interior. Galaxy classes had all the frills, but Data's bridge was smaller and frankly "discount Federations". If the Galaxy was a Hilton in space, the Nebula was a Motel 6. Also it didn't have that fancy saucer section separation.
I think the Nebula's saucer is pretty much the same as the Galaxy's, possibly minus the separation technology.
I imagine that most Nebula-class starships we saw on screen utilised the triangular-shaped mixed sensors/weapons pod, but the first - and only, if I'm right - appearance of the sensor variant was the USS Phoenix. Imagine Macet's anger had they used the more combat-oriented version.
The USS Prometheus was originally a Nebula-class starship, and its replacement was attacked by such a ship. The USS Endeavour is apparently the only survivor of _both_ The Battle of Wolf 359 and The Battle of Sector 001... tough ship.
The textures on the nebula are amazing in this vid🖖
Brilliant video! You're such a great ambassador for the nebula class.
LOL! I think you've put Mr Paris out of his job with that one 🖖
Thanks for doing another Ambassador class video, they never seem to get much love. Another cool channel to check out is Triangulum Audio Studios. He does a lot of backstory both cannon and not and has done several vids on the Nebula.
Yes Rick has a great channel great verities of play lists and narrated really well well worth checking out CIG .
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But it did seem like something that would be comparable.
The episode that you are talking about is called the wounded the Starship is called the Phoenix under the command of Benjamin Maxwell
In the lore of Star Trek, After the first six Galaxy class ships were commissioned, Starfleet realized that building them was incredibly resource intensive. They commissioned the Nebula class as a cost cutter version of the Larger ships. They used the same spaceframe designs for the saucer, engineering hull and warp engines of the Galaxy class to make it, but they were just cut down in scale to save on production cost. A lot of the extra civilian amenities were also removed as a cost saving measure. The Nebula was meant to be more of a cost effective, mass produced ship to serve along side the more expensive Galaxy class ships. In modern terms it's like the Galaxy class ship would be the expensive aircraft carrier at the center of a battle group, and the Nebula classes would be a big chunk of the support fleet around it. I think the ratio was that for every Galaxy class ship built, you could build almost a half a dozen Nebula class ships, and that was the production numbers Starfleet tried to keep up.
I'd compare the two classes to the Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke class ships in the US Navy. The later was cheaper to make per unit though similar. Same with the F22 vs the F35.
6:1? I've never ever heard that anywhere. Nebula only has slightly less volume than a Galaxy, with fewer phaser columns and probably a little less fuel reserves. 6:1 is reaching even with Nebula subclass variety. Scaled-down kit-bashed ships are those of the New Orleans, Challenger, Springfield, even Cheyenne. As does Centaur take a scaled Excelsior hull and a Miranda weapons pod to create a distinctly smaller type, the Akira to the NX. There, you could undoubtedly build 6:1 or even 8:1, but why would you?
@@Euripides_Panz It's material I read in one of a number of Star Trek Technical manuals that were produced back in the 90's I had them all when I was a child.
Retro the saucer and warp nacelles ARE the same size as the galaxy class. It was supposed to be that for ease of field maintenance.
This battle is about what I expected from both ships. The Advantage of having the replaceable mission pods with the nebula make a difference especially when it has the weapons pod attached.
There are at least four variants of this class. The one you're flying is the variant type as see in message in a bottle
The Nebula was a true Jack of all trades class of ship. The Only downside it had was that it took quite a long time to build, that being said the Galaxy was worse in that regard. The Mission pod was a great idea as you can give it anything you can fit in or on such a module 😁 I don't like the Galaxy Class too much for its First batch of ships that went boom, but the Nebula has always proven itself to be the Swiss Army Ship lol
It hurts to see the Ambassador go down like that. Or go down at all.
If you look at the nebula that picked up the enterprise crew at the end of generations, it looked MASSIVE now given, it was sharing the screen with an oberth and a miranda i think, but i think the saucer on the nebula may be bigger than the galaxy.. i guess a good point of reference would be the TNG episode the wounded theres some good galaxy next to nebula shots in that episode
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I always wonder what Ambassador are we talking about? The Wolf 359 version, the Enterprise C version, the post Dominion war version? All have very different power levels.
Oh! How about multiple Mirandas vs. the Nebula?
how about doing this fight the other way around tomorrow?
Will you be playing any more of the Star Trek (Kelvin Timeline) game?
Voyager J vs a few Enterprise Gs?
nebula was a newer design it wins. basically budget galaxy class . :D
Ironically is it should be way better with that weapon pod.
@@PKPhoenix83 I agree with you. The tactical pod adds additional torpedo launchers and phasers.
A good value starship. See it at Costco on aisle 7.
@@jkeelsnc And no exposed neck, plus no complicated equipment to detach the saucer section which also saves room.
If I was in Starfleet and offered command of any ship in the pre DS9 era of TNG, I'd take a Nebula with a weapons pod first.
retrobadger mentioning certifiably ingame? what is this, a crossover episode?
How would the Nebula class go up against an upgraded Excelsior class (ie Lakota)?
That would not go well for the Nebula. Watching the Defiant’s various fights, it’s clear that the Lakota’s phasers are significantly more powerful than a Vor’Cha class, and she has quantum torpedoes
Du please the other way around