RARE Chevrolet Pace Car SCAM... They STOLE My Money
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- An awesome 1990 Chevrolet Beretta Pace Car popped up for sale on Marketplace and I said I'd pay asking price the second I saw it. These car were special editions made for the 1990 Indy 500 and this one looked like in was in okay shape... it just didn't run and only needed a fuel pump. The car is legit, who knows how bad it is mechanically, but the rest of the deal was a completely scam. The car is still for sale on Kansas City FB Marketplace by multiple sellers. They stole my money, and who knows how many more people were scammed by them.
Edit: All of the listings have been removed in the last hour!
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This is a perfect example about how powerful the Emotional part of humans brains are. Every fiber of your Rational self said "this is a scam" and you still went through all the motions. This is why the scammers are so successful.
Still, once in a lifetime you'll find a deal like this so it is difficult to ignore i guess
I’ve had deals I KNEW were scams. And a couple ended up being actual deals. Sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit.
Back in 2015 I bought a 95 Prelude I had to drive far and met the guy at a plaza parking lot long story short it was dark out he had a temporarily tag on the car, I couldn't really see the car too well he asked for a deposit so I said to him I can give you $50.00 and the full amount when I come back to pick up the car there was a lean on the car and both Rear quarter panels were rusted through I didn't see that till the day I picked it up. I was in shocked and I couldn't get it safety inspected to be driven on the road, because it had rust. I lost $200 after reselling it as a parts car. I paid $700 and lost $200
About 8 years ago I did a deal like this in Indianapolis. I used NCIB and it was clean. 3 months later the owner reported it stolen. I was pulled over in Oklahoma and almost arrested. They took my car and sent me walking. I bought it with no title and it turned out the person who sold it to me was not the legal owner. It was a serious mess.
That post sale theft reporting is the sticky part... used car sales are wild 😬
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@@WatchJRGo thats why you transfer the title as fast as possible, in south australia we have a good online system to transfer cars straight after purchase
Wait, you bought a car with no title and drove it for 3 months? Your spidey senses weren't tingling?
@@drpepr96 lol exactly.
Damn, I've never seen someone lose $150 and 3 hours of their life and still have fun before!
It was a wild ride, with some great food! 😂
@@WatchJRGo ehh the video will make up the cost. Also if you don’t know. There is a prototype beretta that has a Yamaha tuned v8 if I remember right. Supposedly GM made it and then decided the Camaro had a V8 so why compete with yourself and then stuck the 6 cylinders in instead. Or maybe it was tossed due to budget constraints.
You guys are having way too much fun!
@@JoshuaBrown-is8fb For JRgo yeah, but somebody is going to show up for it and smash all the windows by not getting their money back.
hmm...have you not been to vegas before :D
I had a person borrow my car while I was at work and was supposed to pick me up the end of my shift. They traded my car for crack. No title, no money, just some crack. I had to find a way home and when I got there, the person that was supposed to pick me up... Was there! I asked where my car was. They try to tell me it was stolen. But the story didn't pan out, and I found out where he got it "stolen" from. I made him drive me over to that address. I had the spare key so I just walked up, got in the car, drove it away. Other than maybe getting shot at what were they going to do? He asked if I was going to go tell them I was taking it. Why would I need to? ? The titles in my name. He was pretty upset because now they were going to be after him for the money, which I just said that I didn't care.
Good for you bro. Sounds about right! I never ever lend out my cars or even let anyone drive them. My mom is the only one I ever trusted to drive my cars. She drove like a grandma even in her 40s 50s
Good on you Mr. Ross! It isn’t easy to admit you’ve been taken. At least it was only $150. Could’ve been so much worse. Thanks for sharing.
His surname isn’t Ross, his first name is John Ross. Fyi.
@@cgcanada88 Duly noted. Though, until I know his surname, Mr. Ross will have to do.
@@gregdiamond6023 Find the vinwiki episode where he tells a story.
I once happened upon a marvelous deal: a 1992 300ZX Twin Turbo (manual) for $3000. Literally perfect. Guy was getting divorced, didn't want his wife getting the car. Simple enough.
He was a few hours away but I had a previous engagement, so I asked a "friend" if they would check out the car and buy it on my behalf. Sure. I even threw in $200 for doing it last minute.
In the middle of my appointment, I get a text, "Where are you?" I reached out to my contact but no answer, and no responses to text either.
Homeboy used my money to buy himself a used motorcycle and skipped town.
It took another three weeks to come up with the funds again, but by then the owner had reconsidered selling it because it turns out his wife hated that car and "didn't want it anyway".
I was pretty mad when I realized I had lost my only opportunity to get that deal.
In the end, I got a 90 300ZX 2+0 Automatic for $900, and realized I kinda hated it. Real nightmare car to work on; it was a tight fit for everything even as an NA, the weight distribution was weird, it was squirrelly on the track, and I could only imagine how much worse two snails and all that plumbing would have made the ownership experience had I owned a twin turbo. Sold it for a profit and moved on.
I found out the same guy I trusted with my money wiped out with said motorcycle and struck a utility pole and shattered his pelvis. Pretty sure that costs a whole lot more (with healthcare costs being what they are), and was far more painful of a lesson than anything I could have rendered.
The universe works in funny ways, I suppose.
@@DJSekuHusky You know, I’d love to find an early-mid 70s 240sx to restore.
I just saw a scam on FB this morning. 1968 Camaro convertible restomod. Matte red. Black wheels and trim. Supposedly in Minnesota with pictures of the car in an obviously Southern state. $20K.
The last time I bought a car off marketplace, I got lucky and had a cop driving by, I flagged him down and explained the situation, and had him run the vin on it.. He did one better and made sure the deal was recorded on body cam- it showed both the sellers ID as well as mine, and the title, in case he tried to do some post sale stolen vehicle crap. The seller was super cool with it and happily agreed to it because he didn't want me to think I was getting scammed or whatnot. The officer told me that if I buy another car, I could always call dispatch, and tell them I'm buying a used car, and just need someone to run the vin for me and they could do it over the phone.. I'm sure all places are different. This video is one of the reasons I prefer to just go to an actual dealership to get a car. Sucks you lost your money, but at least you still had a good time and got some good food. Better luck next time
Whenever I see “selling for a friend” I don’t even bother. In the rare chance it’s not a scam, they usually don’t have the title or keys, etc. Your suspicions were correct, and now you might have a legitimate chance to buy this Beretta in the future. So it might have been worth the 48 hours of travel and negotiation
Made the right connections! 🍻
The selling for a friend is how i got my jeep only he had title that was just signed no date etc and he had the keys he had everything and that is the only reason i bought it plus no deposit cause it was right up the road so certain situations can apply to buying from the sellers friend😁
Listen to the Wizard. No title, no deal.
This story reminded me of something similar (but worse) that happened to a subcontractor who worked for me. He actually sent a money order to a person in Europe to purchase a motorcycle, and after he sent the money order-- wait for it-- the person disappeared! $6000... gone! And absolutely no recourse. He did the deal with Instant Messenger, and after the money order was verified to have been received, the IM was no longer a valid address. A very expensive lesson...
Oddly enough, there is a yellow pace car advertised online in Harrisonville Ks. for $2200. It shows as being on Craigslist and is described as "sitting a while". Coincidence? 😉😂
I used to own a 95 Beretta. Definitely a cool rare car these days. Hopefully you can make a deal happen now that you’re in contact with the right people.
@@BringerOfDearth I always wanted a GT version in black. Mine was just a standard v6 automatic in white. I’m sure the GT versions are just as collectible as the pace cars.. although I hated the seats. Which is probably why it’s so rare now. Nobody wanted it new. 😂
I own a beretta 92. Great shooter
You pays your money and you takes your chances! You have a great attitude which will see you through these rough patches. Keep doing what you're doing. Suddenly the world is chock full of scammers, it's sad. Glad you don't let it get to you.
I've been buying, fixing up, driving then selling vehicles for many years and it's only in the past 8 or 10 that title jumping, odometer rollbacks and scammers have nearly taken over.
Rule #1 is if it's for sale cheaper than other comparable ones, something's probably up.
I love it, "the title holder's in jail and the title itself is in storage" - priceless 😆
And yet in this case "the title holder's in jail and the title itself is in storage" was true! It was the rest that was B.S.!
The quality of people has deteriorated so much in the past 10 years. I don’t blame the internet; I blame the parents.
I can't believe Berettas are still around. I haven't seen one in years. Remember the Corsica? Exactly, they just disappeared.
Ca$h for clunkers took em
Would have been nice to restore it and then bring it to the Indy 500 in hopes they will parade it around the track before the race.
That would've been epic... everyone love throwbacks! 🍻
@WatchJRGo they always have throwbacks on the track before the race. You really should come to it one time? Apparently, it's a top 10 bucket list item for men. I've been to it a couple of times, that's because I live about 30 minutes (with no traffic) from it.
My EX wife had this exact Beretta. Same color , same Indy 500 badges, same wheels with matching yellow accent paint. I tinted her windows black, put those old GTS headlight and taillight covers on it.
Lol, I haven’t seen one of these Chevy Beretta’s in a very long time.
I went to look at a car for sale 40 miles away once. I set a time to meet with the seller at a bank. As i was turning into the bank the car was driving away and the seller sent me a text saying sorry just sold the car. I drove 80 miles for nothing ! He had multiple people meeting him there so he must have just been a car flipper.
I went to see a Civic for sale many years ago , there were 3 people already there looking at it. Guy said he would take 500 over asking price, i just walked to my car. I would of probably paid his new price if he hadn't told all those other people to come too. It was a cluster...
You can be the poster child for distracted driving😁
John, as others have said, you should be able to claim back your money from PayPal. It has to be worth a try and you've noting to lose. If you used a credit card with your PayPal you might be able to claim from the card provider. This is one of the classic scams. When the so-called "seller" was asking more for the deposit, I smelled a rat. You did right to refuse.
Paypal buyer protection doesnt apply to property or cars
if you sent via paypal, contact them and explain the situation, they may be able to refund you.
December is always the most difficult with cars on marketplace. Then January, February. People are throwing money at you for $3000 cars and almost giving away their old cars
Sinclair Community College in Dayton, Ohio had a Beretta convertible prototype in their Automotive building's lobby. It was pretty cool looking. It had the basket handle like the Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible. I heard they never went to production because they folded up in crash testing.
I was going to say I sold the cutlass supreme, and the Beretta both brand new. The sarcastic name for the cutlass supreme convertible is the flexible flyer. We had one show signs of stress, bending after being ran hard through a Cloverleaf.
The Beretta Convertibles were the actual Pace cars, of those there were literally a handful, 3-5 cars made by ASC I believe. The one in this video was just a sticker package from Chevy dealers at the time. They sold a few thousand in yellow and teal. I think a sunroof was available. The hoop was just a flat piece of metal under shitty plastic. Because of the vertical door handles on regular Beretta doors that were now frameless with a convertible top. The real cars had yellow lenses installed in the hoop bar and the tail light panel. The one at my school had a dark interior with the yellow striped seats 3.1lv6 and 4 speed atx. Best looking Beretta ever. No engine mods so far as I could tell. I could not find a switch for the lights, nor were there any visible bulbs under the yellow lenses. There was a red convertible on a brochure in a more standard trim, not sure if that car existed or was a photoshop. The Oldsmobile was a different platform, W I think, and I assume was stronger, at least enough to be sold.
I have not seen one of those since 1991. They also had the Custom GM Conversion Convertible Conversion.
I've always heard it as "eight, you're great, 9, you're mine" in the pushing the limit world.
After buying a $100,000 truck, they SHOULD steal all of your money.
the BBQ logic is my kinda logic
The BBQ was very worth it 💯
🤦♂It's a whole new world out there. The online car shopping experience.
Man I remember these cars well. There were a couple of these rolling around OKC in the early 90s. I always loved the color scheme. Hope you end up getting this car eventually.
Facebook marketplace has become a cess pool, I had a deal worked out on a truck 8 hours away, everything set to go, the night before he texts me he sold it to his brother instead. Thankfully I hadn't left yet as I was considering driving down over night and getting a hotel.
I once sold a car on the phone to a guy named "Steve" who lived hours away from me. We scheduled a meet time. Someone named Steve knocked on my door an hour early, cool I thought, and bought it and drove off. Turns out he was a different Steve that saw the sale sign in the window. The phone Steve was quite mad at me when he pulled up to buy a car I had already sold. At least with Facebook I can see pics and sell to the correct Steve.
Driving truck, pulling trailer, reading phone and presenting to camera at highway speed. Checks out.
When using PayPal never send to “friends & family” unless they’re actually friends & family so you have a recourse to open a claim when it’s a scam.
If I could go to get scammed with Watch Jr Goes I would drink the shot of whiskey and cold Bartle Skeets with him and puff on the Cannibus cigars with him and get all schmoked up.
Really do hope you manage to get this one.
If you PayPal'd the money, presumably you can report as scam/request a refund?
That's what I was going to say. Assume almost anything of FBM is a scam just as much or more than what people used to think with Craig's list, because it's just easier to scame because FB is more picture oriented.
I don’t think they refund “send money to friend or family” only for purchases. But I’m not sure how he sent the money just that he used PayPal
@@pops55650 If you send money "to friend" for a purchase that is scamming PayPal so you deserve what you get.
Want one of these! Would go great with my 84 Fiero pace car and my 81 Trans Am Daytona 500 pace car. The berettas are hard to find for sure.
I subscribe to 3 CZcams mechanics/auto-related channels and all 3 have now had this exact experience buying cars off of Facebook. Sorry you lost money, but thanks for your honesty and taking us along for the ride. I swear I'll never do business on FB.
It's tricky, this is the only one that strung me along well enough to get money. Usually it's pretty clear they can't sell the car 😬
I ran into that situation many of times where I have bought a car and the people had to use the money for bail for their significant others.
If he's out buying a car, he's probably scamming the seller.
Here this will cheer you up, you have become my favorite Auto CZcamsr the content has been so good lately.
The normal scam I see is a really rare car at a really cheap price and I’m guessing they take a deposit. Typically 60s Mustangs in my experience are the ones the scammers pick the most.
My neighbor was telling me that he would never post photos, or post the address to his rentals online because someone would take that information using it in a scam.
It's really sad how corrupt people have become since the Internet age. I guess that's why law enforcement has statutes that makes swindling someone online a criminal offense and not a mere misdemeanor.
Yeah, you should never post the VIN. When someone texts asking for it, I reply I'll give it to you if you call. Scammers never call.
And this is why I stopped buying and selling cars on marketplace
No! Facebook is not the new craigslist. People on Marketplace are infinitely worse.
As soon as he said “bet” you know it’s not happening
Yeah, once something sketchy starts happening in the communications about the title, or something about other people being involved, I will just walk away from the deal. All we want is clean clear cut deals... 💯
If you used PayPal didn't you use the protection aspect that allowed you to get your money back?
I had a guy tell me to meet him at the his local PD…no problem right…then the dude tries to rip me off at the PD…I had a friend (local copper) watching the transaction from the smoking area of the PD…he came out and arrested the dude for intimidation and threats of bodily harm. I was armed and really not worried but, my bud saved the day.
FB marketplace is a cesspit. Almost every ad on marketplace I’ve ever seen looks like it was made by a buy here pay here owner In training.
NEVER, EVER send money before the deal! I know, it made for some great content. Next time, show up with some fake decals for a Repo Company and load it up and go.
I worked at a Chevy dealer when those cars were new. Just seeing ANY Beretta in the wild these days is rare. I don't think most of them survived the second owners.
I only know of one I still see my friends aunt has a red one with 149k she bought new it's a z24 if I remember pretty good shape looks nice runs great
@@frankm8533 ~ The Z24 was the one to have. They had decent handling for a cheap car.
@genericsomething i like the body style I went to high school in the 90s there was 4-5 in the parking lot my buddy had a teal green one from like 96 to 2004. I never see them for sale anywhere anymore I use to drive a dark purple Z24 caviler back then I loved it haha
I have a 2020 250 Platinum that looks exactly like your new truck from the outside. Your dash screen video quality is better than mine. After 2 years and 35k miles I have zero complaints with my 2020 though. I hope you have as good of an ownership experience with your Limited as I've had with my Platinum!
Regarding VIN check, if the car will accept a engine diagnostic reader, confirm the VIN shown by the diagnostic reader is the same as on the car.
I tried selling my 1991 Z28 on craigs list. I'll never do it again. I was very specific on what I was willing to trade for and got all sorts of offers of crap I didn't want. One guy had me hold it for 2 weeks until he got the money together. Said he was on the way and never showed up. Got a call a few hours later of a guy that was interested. I said ok this is what I want for it. I had already come down on it more than I wanted. I said bring a trailer. He didn't bring a trailer. At this point i'm just tired of the bs. The guy talked me down another $100. I said give me your money and get the fuc% out of here. I'll never do it again.
I’m Italian. We don’t get mad and make a big fuss or call the police (and we definitely wouldn’t make a video.) We just walk away and wait for things to calm down…then WATCH OUT. 😂
Morning JR- Great content lately - Any plans to work on your Helix this winter? Even a detail vid (with "back to black" plastic trim comparison) would be fun to see.
Yes to a Helix vid or series!
Man, I can't believe people would really want to pay that much ($15000) for a Beretta. That was the first car my wife ever bought not to long after we got together. Total pile of trash car. It's impossible for me to think of people being nostalgic for them.
Rare Old Cars = All the money on Bring A Trailer 😛
@@WatchJRGo calling a Beretta "old" makes me feel downright freaking ancient. 😁
My first car was a POS hand me down 88 Beretta my sister had before I bought a 91 Bonneville.
Oh man, a Baretta!
Also, i don't have the Miata anymore. Traded it for a Sonoma that ended up being a pile of garbage. Used that truck towards my down-payment for a 2022 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport LE.
Hope all is well, JR!
Just checked the marketplace listing. They claim it's a clean title. 😂
If anyone needs money immediately, it's a scam.
And my biggest problem with buying a car on Craigslist/marketplace is just getting the person to meet. If they can't meet within 24 hours they ghost you.
I mean, if it was through PayPal can't you just dispute the payment?
If the car is 15 years old, you can use the Vermont Loophole to get a title.
Should have brought "The Statue" from your old shop with you, might have been a different outcome
Love your work and the McLaren you recently aquired is absolutely gorgeous,so jealous but my 2018 Corolla will just have to do for now anyway. Greetings from all the way from Australia 🇦🇺
The scams on market place are out of control i live in Orlando and been trying to find a good used car for around a 1000 dollars about 80 percent of the ads are fake
Ask the nearest legit mechanic
There were 4500 of these made. 1500 yellow, 3000 turquoise. A low mileage turquoise sold on BaT a couple of years ago for $12K. Unless this yellow one is mint, it won't bring much more than that. I had an '88 Beretta. Absolutely loved it.
There were actually 6000 turquoise Pace Car replicas made. A total of 7500.
When there's too much story, it's always fishy.
If the Title doesn't have the Sellers Name on the Title, walk away! It is a Jumped Title, which is illegal!
It's on marketplace with two different prices. $7000 and $2000. "clean title." Such a shame too. It's a nice car.
No risk no reward.
I don't have connections to make a mechanic lean. I always say "no title, no sale"
I still have luck with Craigslist. It takes a little longer, but the buyers are usually decent. Facebook marketplace is a dumpster fire buying or selling.
And commercial vehicle will pop you speeding, 84 in a 75 pulling that trailer.
I got scammed for $200 once. I went to the dude's place of employment and got him fired. Then a month later, his Harley burned up.
Sounds like you got the last laugh 💯
The Speedometer discussion sounds like a lot of the mid west states are basically the American Autobaun. Higher speed limits likely because you're going to be driving for hours on relatively flat land between cities.
Yup! The only stops are gas stations, you don't see a city for at least 3 hours, it's just grueling driving. 🏎
The yellow ones are hard to find. I've had three teal and I know where a few more teal ones are but yellow is unobtanium nowadays. I always wanted a yellow one but never had the stars align to pick one up.
PayPal sucks. I got scammed for very little money. $50. The seller sent me a package. It contained children’s stickers. I went to PayPal and explained it was a scam. PayPal sided with the scammer. I refuse to pay with them ever again.
I test drove a used Baretta one time. (Around 95) Car had 40,000 miles and was perfect. Fell in love with it but credit sucked. Ever since I have wanted one as a project. Nice cars.
I always ask them to take a picture of something specific on the car on Marketplace. Over half the cars are scams.
By “protection” i hope you mean ‘sidearm’……preferably a .45 acp
Handy with the steel if you know what I mean. 💪
From what I recall, Craigslist started charging a fee. So now we have Facebook marketplace.
“Protection “ that’s Eric in the backseat ! I’d hate to see someone piss him off . They’d wished they hadn’t . 😝
I agree with you about buying and selling on Facebook. It has been a little hard selling really good cars lately. And the buyers all act like dbags. I don't remember it being this bad 10 years ago on craigslist.
"It's not like we're driving a hundred" (like in the McLaren).
Not every adventure results in buying a car. Some of the best stories are non-buying trips.
Latest FB scam is a black 2008 911 cab for $10K. Multiple ads from many locns.
Call the prison set up a visit and buy it from her directly.
Also assuming you didn't do friends and family on Paypal you can get it reversed.
Used to have one of these years ago still have an extra cluster for one cause they were know to go bad my old car went to maple Grove auto salvage with a bad motor tho miss that car often wonder if it's still there to get it and rebuild it now that I'm older and wiser
Can’t you contact PayPal and put in a claim?
Time to do some sketchy....darn scammer! Let's sick some scammer CZcamsrs on that guy. I've heard great things about Q39! Haven't been yet....next trip through KC!
Had no idea GM did a Pace Car version of the Beretta. First time I saw one I thought it was pretty cool (1987) and rented one out west in 1988....that 2.2L 4 cyl did NOT like driving up to Reno from Sacramento. Would be pretty cool if you can make a deal on that ride! Don't think I ever saw that color combo, so must have been pace car only.
Oh man, finally a Beretta! But it doesn't sound like good news lol :(.
It was not good news 😢
My Oldhead had the Barretta and Eurosport
That sounded like one of those sprite burps...the ones that burn your nose and make your eyes water 😂🙄😢
1st I'm going to say. Get that cell phone out of your hand while driving. 2nd.. Facebook marketplace is full of scams and sadly Facebook does not do much about it.
BTW I have a 1990 Turquois, Teal Convertible Corvette Indy Festival Corvette all original I have owned it since 2001 The Baretta was the Pace Car for that year. I bought it from a collector. They made 50 of them that color. Still has all the stickers on it. All the info is on the Internet about the Baretta.
The interior of that car from the pictures sure didn't look perfect ???
Dude my buddy back in 1997 haf the Teal Colored Berretta with the funky pink graphics. We stopped to get fuel on evening and he decided to put 110 octane in it then it grenaded.
Could have been a lot worse! Maybe things will still work out and you'll be able to buy the car.
I saw this on Marketplace and immediately thought “Radwood”.
Everything about it felt sketch, too.
My first car was a 1988 Beretta GT with the 2.8L and 5spd.. Loved that car!!
there is one in great falls montana but tbh its in verry bad shape like when i saw it no motor on blocks still has trans and well the hood has a lot of rust and the floors are gone
Had to playback at slow speed to see the Rivians -Top middle was an R1T but still so cool to see a bunch at once!
"An awesome 1990 Chevrolet Beretta " i can see where u went wrong. anything obd1 no, anything fwd that isnt honda no, there is nothing awesome about this.
So everyone in the neighborhood knows who it is, and aren't involved, but nobody is going to tell the police about him?
Sound complicit to me lol
When you buying a neon srt4 I know you want one 💯💯💯🔥
I have bought and sold quite a few cars on market place over last few years. A few things I've learned. When buying: Title, title, title. Ask all the applicable questions patculary paying attention to if there is a leinholder listed on it. If so, it needs an original lien release letter. Even better, try to get seller to send pics of title (both sides) if traveling a distance. Be ready immediately to go look at/ purchase vehicle with cash and avoid going alone. Ask as few questions needed through messaging. Do that in person along with any negotiations based on condition etc. Be prepared to walk away because 90% of the time, the vehicle condition will fall below what is advertised. I personally would NEVER send a seller any $$$ for deposit or to hold vehicle unless you have disposable cash you don't mind losing. Be direct but don't be an ass to the seller online because they are probably dealing with a lot of tire kickers. If selling; money talks. Have in mind what your bottom line for selling is. Don't list for $2K but then also say your bottom line is $1500. Again, negotiate in person. Never take a deposit or "hold" a vehicle for a buyer no matter how committed they seem. Explicitly tell buyers you are doing a first come, first serve process. Trust me, it saves you from being frustrated with a flakey buyer. Give as little of your personal info as possible to get the deal done. Use your intuition to decide about the buyer regarding that. Sell in good faith and be upfront regarding condition of vehicle. If you are unsure of things be upfront.
Vermont doesn't require title for cars older then 15 years and let's you register out of state so you can do the paperwork with only a bill of sale and get registration and title it in your state or keep it with Vermont
Good news. Berettas were not great when they were new. Its like having a showroom escort wagon with indy painted on it.
Facebook marketplace, the official place of getting “Is it still available?” and then ghosted for eternity.