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    #godofwar #godofwarragnarok #godofwarvalhalla #tyr
    Tyr, the God of War for millenia within the Norse Realm was a pivotal figure within the story of Kratos and Atreus; while the Tyr we grew to know during the events of Ragnarok was a farce, a cruel trick played by Odin, Tyr was still out there. After defeating Odin, Kratos and Freya made their way to Niflheim where they discovered that Tyr was still alive and had been imprisoned by his father as Odin could not take the shape of Tyr if the God of War was dead.
    Being the son of Odin and the brother of Thor, Heimdall and Baldur, of course Tyr would be powerful. After all, each one of his brothers and his father could go toe to toe with the mighty Kratos; however, we never really got to see Tyr at his full strength. Despite being the God of War and seemingly the perfect candidate to battle the God of War of another Pantheon, Tyr was actually a pacifist who used his incredible power to broker peace between the realms instead of forcing them to bend the knee to Odin.
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  • @KeyIssues
    @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +53

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    • @shifterlocker2361
      @shifterlocker2361 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Glad to know that dumb head canon of Kratos getting "weaker" of old age constantly and then dying isn’t true lmao that was stupid idea.

    • @hyjjjkyikk3158
      @hyjjjkyikk3158 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I thought Thor was weaken by jormugander poison and fight.thats why Thor struggled to rival kratos

    • @shifterlocker2361
      @shifterlocker2361 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@hyjjjkyikk3158 lmao no not at all that’s purely fanon.

    • @KrNB1799
      @KrNB1799 Před 4 měsíci

      Nice Video tyr also fought Garm and Garm ate metaphysical concept of a season thats crazy even fighting Garm being this powerful even a crazy feat for Kratos

    • @thunderzilla_rex
      @thunderzilla_rex Před 4 měsíci

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  • @JTem0n
    @JTem0n Před 5 měsíci +1492

    Odin's Tyr: I can never pick up a weapon ever again. I'm a pacifist
    Real Tyr:Hey Kratos check out my cool weapons

  • @ryujisusapphire9511
    @ryujisusapphire9511 Před 5 měsíci +1304

    I like how the fact that Ares and Tyr are both the God Of Wars but they have different perspective and roles on how they should use war. Ares destroyed Kratos' life meanwhile Tyr regained it.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +126

      Same! Tyr is one of the most interesting characters in the entire series

    • @shadowdan1177
      @shadowdan1177 Před 5 měsíci +77

      It makes sense even in their respective mythological roles. Ares was always more of a man child who lived under the shadow of his sister Athena and thus was pretty cruel, impulsive and even hated by most Greeks. Tyr on the other hand was always viewed as a more Nobel and Just God of war that was as good with his spear as he was with his words.

    • @makarovmatsumo3125
      @makarovmatsumo3125 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I hope we get a spin off game about Tyr's past on another realm in case Kratos might be too old for the other mythologies

    • @ChristianMcClaine
      @ChristianMcClaine Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@makarovmatsumo3125It would be smooth, because he visited those realms. Maybe he is the next God of War series.

    • @villanousvic323
      @villanousvic323 Před 5 měsíci +12

      ​@@ChristianMcClaine maybe they'll team up to protect the realms against a more blood thirsty pantheon or something eldritch in nature, just a thought

  • @Chikararyoku
    @Chikararyoku Před 5 měsíci +1215

    I think Thor is the physically strongest
    Odin is the magically strongest
    Tyr is the most skilled in battle

    • @SSJBlueVegito
      @SSJBlueVegito Před 5 měsíci +28

      How do you think Tyr would do against Heimdall?

    • @vyruss9348
      @vyruss9348 Před 5 měsíci +277

      @@SSJBlueVegito Probably kick his ass thats what he would do.

    • @A_Edits6067
      @A_Edits6067 Před 5 měsíci +12

      ​@@vyruss9348He meant like how would he land a hit

    • @SKYCENZO
      @SKYCENZO Před 5 měsíci +186

      Tyr spear throw is same function as drupnir spear.
      Tyr big sword can flame.
      Tyr double kophesh can slash fast and many magic i forgot.
      Tyr katana can shoot out ice power.
      Tyr can blind his enemies.
      With all that heimdall will get overwhelmed

    • @h20poseidon33
      @h20poseidon33 Před 5 měsíci +17

      ​@@A_Edits6067 His spear is similar to Kratos spear

  • @h20poseidon33
    @h20poseidon33 Před 5 měsíci +552

    It's crazy that kratos actually learns new techniques from Tyr that's how you know Tyr is simply just "HIM"

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +97

      Brings a Tyr to my eye 😭

    • @Antonio-vn5xc
      @Antonio-vn5xc Před 5 měsíci +16

      Kratos learning something isn't a Tyr feat lol. You can be stronger and still learn from weaker fighters. Like goku learning from yardrats

    • @h20poseidon33
      @h20poseidon33 Před 5 měsíci +27

      @@Antonio-vn5xc who knows kratos could be stronger mate, but it is quite indeed a feat. Tyr knows many different moves and abilities from different lands that kratos isn't even familiar to it's an amazing feat in fact mate!

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 5 měsíci +31

      ​@@Antonio-vn5xc Yeah but Kratos describes him as one of his "most formidable opponents" & Sigrun says that there's "no shame in falling to Týr, he is WITHOUT PEERS... yet"!

    • @shodan785
      @shodan785 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Antonio-vn5xcI don’t think bringing f tier writing shonen as an example makes sense

  • @willshenanigans
    @willshenanigans Před 5 měsíci +172

    Týr is the perfect example of a warrior in a garden, rather than a gardener in a war.

  • @dragonstormx
    @dragonstormx Před 5 měsíci +292

    Tyr says he's not holding back but everytime Kratos beats him, Tyr blocks his punch. That is a good indicator he isn't going full out. I was under the assumption Kratos was pulling punches as well since he didn't see Tyr as an enemy.

    • @davinator968
      @davinator968 Před 5 měsíci +46

      Kratos had to be holding back during his fights with Tyr. He certainly didn’t want to actually hurt him.

    • @deswood5760
      @deswood5760 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Then again tyr pushes him close to that edge of fighting when you see the back draft of kratos punch the same way he did thor but he knows when to stop himself

    • @warallied
      @warallied Před 5 měsíci +57

      He's not holding back when it comes to purpose.
      but you literally see him power up 4 times while using different powers that he didnt use prior. He is playing the part of a teacher after all.
      Its hard to say the extent of Kratos holding back or not (he obviously dont fight to kill per se) but since we're the PoV and we're mashing the same buttons - its fair to say that Tyr is far more stronger than he's letting on - specially considering his experience and prowess.
      while on the ground - he instantly stops a god breaker punch from Kratos when he's supposed to be beaten and disoriented.
      I think he should be equal to Kratos. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • @armoredg1497
      @armoredg1497 Před 4 měsíci +33

      They were holding back their strength, but they were using their combat skills on full potential. Its a sparring match, sparring match is always about skills first. not brute strength

    • @alatus1578
      @alatus1578 Před 4 měsíci +3

      It was a sparring basically

  • @jam5287
    @jam5287 Před 5 měsíci +123

    Tyr is OP as hell. He doesn’t even break a sweat when he catches Kratos’s fist. He’s likely the only one who could have ever gotten Kratos to even consider trying to forgive his past mistakes. As charming and charismatic and wise as mimir is.. he couldn’t give Kratos what he needed. They totally redeemed tyr and I couldn’t be happier. My only complaint was that we never got to see vidar.

  • @thomastome8396
    @thomastome8396 Před 5 měsíci +118

    Tyr was more than a God of war in norse myth. He was the God of justice, so it fits his character to want to break peace

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +7

      yep yep

    • @karolczapko4790
      @karolczapko4790 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He was also a god of honor

    • @thomastome8396
      @thomastome8396 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@karolczapko4790 Too true. The only god brave enough to feed Fenrir and play with the pup, and had the courage to sacrifice his arm when challenged to break his new bonds.

  • @jonathankennedy1963
    @jonathankennedy1963 Před 5 měsíci +297

    Man, now I want a Tyr DLC, ending with him fighting multiple Aesir Gods all at once and losing.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +57

      Or surrendering so he doesn’t hurt his family 👀

    • @jonathankennedy1963
      @jonathankennedy1963 Před 5 měsíci +37

      @@KeyIssues maybe he faces Thor, then gets jumped by both Magni, Modi, and Baldur

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Or have him win but he is forced to stand down by Odin threatening the giants

    • @DEADLY_PURGER
      @DEADLY_PURGER Před 3 měsíci

      @@jonathankennedy1963bro would toss all 3 of them around☠️

  • @dukeamusprime4721
    @dukeamusprime4721 Před 5 měsíci +434

    Tyr really is a very interesting character in the God of War franchise. And this video helps prove that. Plus, him helping Kratos to become better as a character was also really cool

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +22

      He's one of my favorite characters in the series

    • @josephfigues4202
      @josephfigues4202 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I am actually excited on what they will do with Set, Egypt's God of War since the original plan was for both Set and Tyr to be the comrades of Kratos vs all evil pantheon.

    • @acgearsandarms1343
      @acgearsandarms1343 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@josephfigues4202I thought Horus was a God of War for Egypt. Another of Set’s titles is the god of evil. An actual god of evil. So I’m wary of him. I could be wrong.

    • @user-bq4mv5wf9d
      @user-bq4mv5wf9d Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@KeyIssues Manhwa characters assassins vs Hunters

    • @garrettjackson1451
      @garrettjackson1451 Před měsícem

      I think Set would represent everything Kratos was in the past a godkiller considering he killed Osiris(if the developers stay accurate to that story and most of the Egyptian gods are pretty chill and benevolent I would like to see Kratos and Horus have a sparring match or team up to take down Set Horus would see Kratos as an equal in combat

  • @commando414
    @commando414 Před 5 měsíci +176

    I honestly would not consider Tyr to be a pacifist. I would see him as a fighter for peace for he litteraly fought for peace and he mastered his mind, body, and soul to be that person Tyr was, and was willing to pass it on to Kratos since understandably, Tyr considered Kratos to be the perfect candidate to be the next God of War for Norse gods since despite Kratos' flaws, he has become a better person and has been needing some wisdom and guidance for so long, and though Mimir helped, Tyr will be able to truly make Kratos into the perfect successor as the god of Peace.

    • @Madjo-qj2ge
      @Madjo-qj2ge Před 5 měsíci +19

      Tyr is a warrior in a garden

    • @thecalamithy7497
      @thecalamithy7497 Před 5 měsíci +14

      He's one of those that fight with honour, so yeah he's not that pacifist

    • @lilfrick7311
      @lilfrick7311 Před 5 měsíci +3

      i think kratos will take tyrs responsibilities as god of war, but be called god of hope

    • @journeymanic9605
      @journeymanic9605 Před 5 měsíci

      I always hate that modern pascifism is characterized as a refusal to fight. It should be a philosophy of violence only as a last resort. Tyr's reflective and meditative ways exemplify this trait. He is in complete control at all times. Only relentless force could stop him, yet if he can win a fight without drawing a weapon he would.

    • @MrFiremagnet
      @MrFiremagnet Před 5 měsíci +3

      God of Hope, you mean?

  • @redted12345
    @redted12345 Před 5 měsíci +71

    Man, I’ve been playing Valhalla nonstop on the Mastery difficulty or whatever, the hardest difficulty. When I finally got to Tyr that first time I had low health and no resurrection stone but I still managed to beat him the first try. That beginning reveal when he’s like “Because I can” and slowly summons his spear and shield, Kratos’ quiet “Show me”, that ending WWE move Kratos does on Tyr and then Tyr CATCHING KRATOS PUNCH AT THE END….DAMN IT WAS AWESOME!

  • @Tommy42031
    @Tommy42031 Před 5 měsíci +335

    Tyrribly strong!

  • @fireflyer97
    @fireflyer97 Před 5 měsíci +190

    I think in raw physical strength Thor still has him beat but he's a bit more powerful when his skill, arsenal, and varied magic is taken into account.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +28

      Out drinks him too

    • @shadowdan1177
      @shadowdan1177 Před 5 měsíci +37

      O yeah Thor is definitely the strongest Aesir (when it comes to physical strenght) the guy literally splintered the world tree during Ragnarok but Tyr is certainly the most skilled Aesir when it comes to combat and maybe even the most experienced one. And honestly Tyr is probably the most skilled magic user as well (only bellow Odin himself)

    • @MacSantana
      @MacSantana Před 4 měsíci +8

      Nobodies attacks makes kratos fly like Thor’s he definitely is the strongest Tyr is more skilled and versatile

    • @Motorcitynights
      @Motorcitynights Před 4 měsíci +1

      Let's not forget that thors strength is doubled by a magic belt that grants him might.

    • @shadowdan1177
      @shadowdan1177 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@MotorcitynightsThat would be in the actual mythology. I’m not sure he needs or uses the magical belt in the game

  • @TheAnonymouskittykit
    @TheAnonymouskittykit Před 5 měsíci +42

    HE'S TOP TYR!

  • @racketraccoon519
    @racketraccoon519 Před 5 měsíci +96

    I can definitely agree I love Tyr so much and him being equal to Kratos is so good! Him helping Kratos become stronger and more skilled is such a good thing for Kratos as a character! I hope people don't downplay Tyr's power people often do and it's disappointing.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +19

      Amazing story they told with him. Teased him for a long time and it paid off

    • @ArthurMorgan-vr4mg
      @ArthurMorgan-vr4mg Před 5 měsíci +2

      They downgraded tyr because back then, Tyr was featless

    • @Souphover
      @Souphover Před 5 měsíci +2

      They aren’t equal kratos is always holding back and he didn’t wanna kill him

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +26

      @@Souphover Tyr literally told Kratos not to hold back and Kratos loses to Tyr in the canon story.

    • @Souphover
      @Souphover Před 5 měsíci

      @@KeyIssues how do we know he stopped holding back fully

  • @SSJBlueVegito
    @SSJBlueVegito Před 5 měsíci +55

    8:19 Damn!!! Tyr just casually flings Kratos like 30 meters away like it was nothing.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +16

      Rag dolls the ghost of Sparta 😵

    • @vexed2576
      @vexed2576 Před 5 měsíci +7

      He’s physically stronger than Kratos, that’s cool.

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@vexed2576 🤡

    • @SSJBlueVegito
      @SSJBlueVegito Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@vexed2576 I wouldn’t say all that but he’s pretty close to Kratos’ physical strength.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +25

      @@vlad_47you crying under every comment from people who like Tyr is so embarrassing for you

  • @eurongreyjoy2
    @eurongreyjoy2 Před 5 měsíci +63

    I'd really like to see how Tyr and Odin interacted. They're father and son, hell Odin even impersonates him most of the game, yet they feel so distant from each other. There could be a god-Tyr story of disillusionment and betrayal it they depicted what led up to Tyr's imprisonment, and how Tyr managed to maintain his moral character through all his suffering and being surrounded by sadistic narcissists. What positive influences did he have in Asgard? Was there a little part of him that still loved his father?

    • @orhandalegend
      @orhandalegend Před 5 měsíci +10

      i think that they had a neutral relationship, his travels could mean alot to Odin but we dont know if tyr hid his travels from odin

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +16

      After playing this I was thinking about all the interpersonal relationships Tyr had and how interesting they’d be to see played out in some way

    • @nirjhar4803
      @nirjhar4803 Před 5 měsíci

      Were they ever confirmed to be Father and son in the games? I understand that in the original mythos they're father and son, but I feel like they changed that in the games...

    • @MRFIKSIT31
      @MRFIKSIT31 Před 5 měsíci

      Tyr was not Odin’s son in GoW.

    • @shadowdan1177
      @shadowdan1177 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@nirjhar4803I’m pretty sure all of the Aesir Gods we see in Gow are children of Odin (except for Forsetti and Thor’s children and wife of course)

  • @acgearsandarms1343
    @acgearsandarms1343 Před 5 měsíci +32

    I hope Tyr trains Kratos in foreign weapons and combat techniques to whatever new place he may or may not end up in for the next game. That way he won’t be totally helplessly against any foreign foes and can take on new weapons. Kratos does have a knack for getting better against his foes in multiple engagements.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +13

      Kratos with a Katana would break the internet

    • @retro2621
      @retro2621 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@KeyIssues watch him perform judgement nut end the moment he gets a katana crafted for him.

  • @lanceison490
    @lanceison490 Před 5 měsíci +17

    I was losing my sh*t when tyr casually blocks Kratos punch without looking? I was like no fucking way! Makes me wonder if tyr was holding back! To casually block a punch like that from the man himself💯

    • @ldtatum8459
      @ldtatum8459 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Said he wasn’t holding back meanwhile Kratos was holding back the entire game

    • @fransthefox9682
      @fransthefox9682 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ldtatum8459 Kratos holds back by not being angry. And Tyr was being calm himself.

    • @ldtatum8459
      @ldtatum8459 Před 4 měsíci

      @@fransthefox9682 calm and holing back power are two different things… Kratos is still much stronger than Tyr

    • @fransthefox9682
      @fransthefox9682 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@ldtatum8459 Kratos uses more power with rage, and it's safe to assume that Tyr can grow stronger if he used rage too.

    • @ldtatum8459
      @ldtatum8459 Před 4 měsíci

      @@fransthefox9682 why is that? Because you thought it so? Do you think they have the same powers 😂 😂 😂.
      Kratos is a completely different beast and one that is far stronger than Tyr. Feats, dialogue, devs all prove this to be true

  • @ravenpapa27
    @ravenpapa27 Před 5 měsíci +119

    I personally think he's stronger than Odin, that's why Odin locked him up. Odin was scared of Tyr.

    • @legendarybroly2
      @legendarybroly2 Před 5 měsíci +31

      Plus with all the hacks he has

    • @noahsibahi-jackson8757
      @noahsibahi-jackson8757 Před 5 měsíci +27

      True, it also depicted Thor and Odin locking Tyr up so it is possible Odin needed help to beat Tyr and could not defeat him alone

    • @aushynebell2238
      @aushynebell2238 Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@noahsibahi-jackson8757nah I’m pretty sure Odin is stronger than tyr since he did destroy Ymir the first giant with help

    • @chrisianieri6747
      @chrisianieri6747 Před 5 měsíci +21

      I think Odin more so feared the rebellion Tyr could cause as opposed to be genuinely afraid of Tyr himself. He knew Tyr could rally people to his cause which would cause Odin problems

    • @tomlinsona0704
      @tomlinsona0704 Před 5 měsíci +6

      The Giants prophesied that a God of War would overthrow him, fhey didnt say which.

  • @andreabosio6452
    @andreabosio6452 Před 5 měsíci +10

    After getting used to main game Tyr, the one going "oh no, i don't want to fight" and everything (yeah ok was Odin but still) seeing Valhalla Tyr is almost refreshing, finding back a person that you don't really know but you can get the feel "yes, this is what he should've been". For me, he was wholesome. Almost like catching up with an old friend ready to help you, even if it means getting a little rough

    • @arnoldmendoza1674
      @arnoldmendoza1674 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I feel like he actually needed time, and as soon as he recomposed himself, he dedicated himself to Kratos

  • @mikelaggeson2605
    @mikelaggeson2605 Před 5 měsíci +89

    I think Týr beats Odin personally. Just the amount of weapons and skills he possesses speak for themselves.

    • @HULKmyLOVE
      @HULKmyLOVE Před 5 měsíci +3

      Lol

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 5 měsíci +21

      ​​​@@HULKmyLOVE He's 100% right, both Týr & Thor are stronger than Odin. Thor is described as the strongest (so physically superior) Aesir, unfortunately for him he was a 1 trick pony, sure he's mighty & tough... but he's got like 4 or 5 moves & only 1 weapon that has 1 element. If Thor is a 10/10 in strength, Týr is 9,5 & Odin at 9,25 or 9.
      Edit: Thor HAS a varied moveset, it's just that the game does a bad job showing it. But he STILL only has one weapon that can only control one element. Also in his 2nd & last fight against Kratos he gets dealt with easily cause: 1) we was poisoned & 2) Kratos has a better arsenal (3 weapons > 1, logical) with the Blades of Chaos being more powerful than Mjolnir

    • @ArthurMorgan-vr4mg
      @ArthurMorgan-vr4mg Před 5 měsíci +5

      Imao Odin made Tyr his B*** when Tyr was in his prime

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 5 měsíci +22

      ​@@ArthurMorgan-vr4mg False, Odin sent his army for Týr.

    • @HULKmyLOVE
      @HULKmyLOVE Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@ArthurMorgan-vr4mg haha yes i dunno what kind of weed he is smoking 😅

  • @Scarlettifity
    @Scarlettifity Před 5 měsíci +8

    All I know is that becoming a God of War comes with perks like having the best weapons from different pockets of the universe lmao. I think it was so fitting that Tyr also had his ensemble of weapons like Kratos lol

  • @LegionCantClimb
    @LegionCantClimb Před 5 měsíci +7

    Lmao the real Tyr decides that a spanking might help you with your problems while Odin’s tyr was a cowardly pacifist. Shows how Odin’s judgement is perverted

  • @GRUSTLER
    @GRUSTLER Před 5 měsíci +8

    Tyr taught Kratos how to also use his mind in battle to his advantage. When you play through a couple of times Tyr says that Kratos is stronger than him and this is a fact. All you have to do is beat him a couple of times.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +5

      They're relative overall even if Kratos is stronger at the end of the day

  • @noahsibahi-jackson8757
    @noahsibahi-jackson8757 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I agree with your thoughts here, very well put together video overall

  • @Original7_BD
    @Original7_BD Před 4 měsíci +2

    God Of War, the entire series. Has some of the greatest lore in video game history

  • @jackblack9605
    @jackblack9605 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Glad they gave Tyr his spotlight in this dlc. He's the Norse god of war and we never got to see it. He might not be within the same power level as Thor, Odin and Kratos but he definitely makes up for it skill and experience. After playing this dlc, you can believe why Odin was afraid of this guy.

  • @Zac_Frost
    @Zac_Frost Před 4 měsíci +4

    You also didn't mention that Týr is half Aesir god and half Giant, so, like Thor, he was born naturally more sturdy than even other gods.

  • @lvl5dino749
    @lvl5dino749 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Fun video! Tyr is definitely one of the most interesting gods of the pantheon.
    (I wonder if he scales above doomslayer, lol. I noticed you don't have a video on lore Doomslayer, that would be interesting to see.)

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Need more Tyr in my life

  • @Johnny72689
    @Johnny72689 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I think in terms of raw strength and power, Thor has the edge. But Tyr’s skills, training, and tactics could probably outmatch Thor in battle.

  • @omegaglacial
    @omegaglacial Před 5 měsíci +4

    Very good video like always! I agree with almost everything you say. I personally would still think Thor is a little bit higher than Tyr but it's really not by much as Tyr really shows us in Valhalla that he isn't the Norse God of War for nothing! Also, I still keep some restraints on the assumption of Freya being the equal of Kratos. I know there's some statement that would go that way but her actual feats in game are clearly not helping to prove that (but I still think she's very close to Kratos level, just not being equal to him like other norse gods are). But this is only my opinion and I clearly don't mean to tell you you're wrong for thinking otherwise. I just wanted to give you my thoughts on this subject.

  • @christianhdzm
    @christianhdzm Před 5 měsíci +3

    I still say that macahuatl is Xiuhcoatl, the weapon Huitzilopochtli used to strike down his sister (making her the moon) and his 400 siblings making them the stars, I mean that macahuatl spews fire whenever it strikes the ground!

  • @gokubruce24
    @gokubruce24 Před 3 měsíci

    Please do a video on the other gods! Would love your take on Thor and Zeus

  • @austinwinston1231
    @austinwinston1231 Před 5 měsíci +19

    Two issue with the things you said
    1) Thor wasnt anywhere near his peak since he was mentally depressed, defeated, doubted what he was doing and was passed out drunk a chapter ago so I doubt he was in his peak condition physically as well. Both mental and physical aspect play a part in how powerful a character is so the second fight between Kratos and Thor isnt as lopsided as you made it out to be.
    2) Freya tried for 3 years straight to kill Kratos. If she was really his equal, she would have succeeded by now because Kratos was holding back and had no wish to harm her. Doesn't make sense for them to be equal.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +16

      1. I’m talking about the Thor we see in the games not some hypothetical version.
      2. The writers and developers said it multiple times. Kratos was holding back not to kill her but wasn’t holding back to keep himself alive.

    • @austinwinston1231
      @austinwinston1231 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@KeyIssues 1) He wasn't as powerful as he was in the first fight in any case. He was dead drunk a chapter ago.
      2) It takes a lot of effort to fight someone who is as powerful as you and to restrain and stop them but not hurt them. I don't know if you do any martial art or combat sport but when someone is coming to you with the intent to hurt, if you aren't much more skill or powerful than them, there isn't legit anyway to hold them back from hurting you without hurting them back. Kratos has to be more skill or more powerful to always beat Freya in every encounter and not put permanent harm on her. If Freya won even a single encounter, he would be dead. So Kratos won for 3 years straight. Can we really say they are equal?

    • @chromtastic2092
      @chromtastic2092 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@austinwinston1231 what states that thor wasn't at full power during their first encounter there's no mention of thor or odin before they came to kratos home also kratos only fought to keep himself and atreus alive he didn't want to kill Freya at all for those three years that she hunted them so yes he went all out to protect himself but not kill he even states this later after the fight glad that atreus didn't shoot Freya on the sled and again when he said he didn't want to kill Freya to begin with since he understood her people need to realize that going all out to kill is different from going all out to live kratos has no need to push himself to kill Freya

    • @austinwinston1231
      @austinwinston1231 Před 5 měsíci

      @@chromtastic2092 read what I said again. I didn't say that Thor was weakened on the first fight. I said he was weaker on his second fight than the first.
      2) You completely went over my argument. Try subduing someone in a fight who is your strength and peer in skill when they are bloodlusted and you aren't allowed to hurt them.

    • @EchoDragonHawk
      @EchoDragonHawk Před 5 měsíci

      💯💯💯

  • @ghostofwar5430
    @ghostofwar5430 Před 5 měsíci +26

    In mythology tyr is considered to be strong as odin,thor and vidar. Maybe even stronger. And by old beliefs,tyr is above odin. Holding place as high god. Odin is considered the allfather in new beliefs.
    In gow i believe he is stronger than thor and odin. Hell maybe even kratos. Take note that through his battles with kratos he was teaching him.

  • @TheMETALICA40
    @TheMETALICA40 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Peacefull warrior a fitting name for him.

  • @sophielarchlight1450
    @sophielarchlight1450 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tyr seriously could become a combat teacher or mentor a really good one

  • @JakeMatthews-OnLo
    @JakeMatthews-OnLo Před 5 měsíci +16

    So they went with the son of Odin Angle, I would’ve preferred the son of Ymir. So may Tyr was probably and older god that predates Odin.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +6

      I like him being Odin’s son tbh it creates more drama

    • @thatonemf7081
      @thatonemf7081 Před 5 měsíci

      no keyissues speaking bs fr@CostmioLabos

    • @thatonemf7081
      @thatonemf7081 Před 5 měsíci

      you not the writer bru@@KeyIssues

    • @SSJBlueVegito
      @SSJBlueVegito Před 5 měsíci

      @CostmioLabos Yes he’s Odin’s son just like how Thor, Baldur & Heimdall all are sons of Odin. It’s stated in the God of War official Wiki if you didn’t know.

    • @SSJBlueVegito
      @SSJBlueVegito Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@thatonemf7081 How is he speaking Bs? The God of War official wiki literally has Tyr’s Alias has Týr Odinson.

  • @jessekedar
    @jessekedar Před 4 měsíci +1

    With how calm he was when rescued after the game and seeing Tyr's level of power makes me think he chose to remain imprisoned and was just... waiting

  • @GRUSTLER
    @GRUSTLER Před 5 měsíci +4

    Also at one point Sigrun said she knows Kratos is more powerful and that Tyr is not holding back because he would not disrespect Kratos like that.

  • @LukeReinking
    @LukeReinking Před 5 měsíci +8

    Tyr might even rival Odin in power, depending on how you interpret Kratos’s ugrades in Valhalla

  • @xXSonTJXx
    @xXSonTJXx Před 5 měsíci +5

    Great work 👏🏾 especially on those pronunciations
    Týr should be stronger than Thor and maybe rival Odin

  • @DeitySIE
    @DeitySIE Před 4 měsíci +1

    Bruh what’s the name of the song in the background I love it and I love the vid great work 🎉

  • @benparrish672
    @benparrish672 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Norseman Saga's protagonist Caelan Erikson is an UnDead Nigh-Immortal Norse Viking that was born, lived, died & "cursed w/inability to leave" during the Viking Age, around 1,000A.D.

  • @bogdanstan5792
    @bogdanstan5792 Před 5 měsíci +5

    A completely new tyr of power

  • @joeyfigueroa4748
    @joeyfigueroa4748 Před 12 dny

    Love how when you have that early fight with Thor even he turns to pay some respect to Tyr when he destroys his statue by accident. “Sorry about your statue Tyr, ya old stiff.”

  • @dragonstormx
    @dragonstormx Před 5 měsíci

    While not related, the tagline you gave for this has me picturing this famous "Warrior of Peace, NOW EAT THIS SUCKA!" line from The Owl House.

  • @Megametalwolf
    @Megametalwolf Před 5 měsíci +2

    A spear is also odins weapon. The god of war i. Norse mythology had tyr, thor and odin as a god of war. Its not like the greek gods where ares was the god of war and zeus was the king of all gods. Its still really cool and i wonder if tyr will join the new council of gods

  • @gabrielmartinez578
    @gabrielmartinez578 Před 5 měsíci +26

    I asked you this when Ragnarok came out but in your previous God of war video you said that you would like to do the Greek gods vs the Norse gods was wondering if you’re still planning on doing that?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +5

      ummmm

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Greek Gods are clearly more powerful.
      Remind who and what Kratos is again?
      The OG series and its 2 Novels, depict the Olympians like in mythology but on steroids, while the norse soft reboot just isnt the same.
      What Thor + Jörmungandr did, suppossedly shaking the realms in the past, Ares alone did with his casual battle roars.
      While Zeus and Poseidon roars trembled the entire infinite creation.

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​@@vlad_47 Nah, either Norse > Greek or they = (imho they are equal)

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 Před 5 měsíci

      @@gonhunter3994 There is literally no case for the Norse gods. Bring it if you have one.

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 5 měsíci

      @@vlad_47 The novels of the Greek saga are secondary canon, so the feats are not all valid

  • @user-tb8dm4ft2r
    @user-tb8dm4ft2r Před 5 měsíci +1

    Just finished the DLC , got a tyr in my eye!

  • @BaronUnderbite
    @BaronUnderbite Před 5 měsíci +1

    If i played as Tyr in the next GoW instead of Kratos... I wouldnt be mad at all. Would be a great way to explore the Universe playing as arguably a better character. Exploring his journey to the different pantheons would be amazing

  • @orhandalegend
    @orhandalegend Před 5 měsíci +2

    Tyr went toe to toe with Kratos while being out of shape too.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +1

      True!

    • @thatonemf7081
      @thatonemf7081 Před 5 měsíci +1

      you said freya is an equal to kratos, any proof?@@KeyIssues

    • @Chad-Kratos-jf8zy
      @Chad-Kratos-jf8zy Před 5 měsíci

      ​ @thatonemf7081 she isn't they showed the statement from the artbook, which is a mis representation the statement only said they are "equal in relevant metrics"
      and god knows what those relevant metrics are, Kratos is more of a strength and skill build, Freya is more of witchcraft build.
      So what "relevant metrics" are they talking about
      experience? maybe, battle IQ maybe? Who knows..
      But the rest aren't.
      We all fall into the trap of understanding the statements incorrectly and misrepresent them

  • @greedgod5827
    @greedgod5827 Před 4 měsíci

    The subtle shift in weight line actually has relevance to kratos first fight with thor when the 2 are pushing on mjolnir in opposing directions and when kratos appears to be overpowering thor he shift his weight that hes putting toward kratos quickly to catch him off balance and strike him all in the matter of a couple seconds

  • @ItsButterBean1020
    @ItsButterBean1020 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I always took it the spear and shield were Tyr’s native weapons; we see his statues depict him using a spear and shield like this

  • @rob-ron4231
    @rob-ron4231 Před 4 měsíci

    This dlc has been and amazing editions
    I played the game on the hardest difficulty
    And I struggled a lot and respected tÿr for for giving me on hell of a fight
    On of my favorite boss fights

  • @smarty1268
    @smarty1268 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Tyr deserves his own game.

  • @JamesWheeler-sk5nc
    @JamesWheeler-sk5nc Před 5 měsíci +1

    Oddly i imagine him and gohan getting along well and if they fought it would be together and if they fought each other it be the same as when tyr fights kratos in valhalla

  • @astro_moss
    @astro_moss Před 5 měsíci +5

    Awesome video! My worry is that they made Odin and Tyr a bit too powerful. If Kratos can beat them, then what god would be able to rival him in future games?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +5

      Can always weaken Kratos or give other gods crazy power. I personally think that the next game with focus on Atreus, not Kratos!

    • @Blake2X4
      @Blake2X4 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Odin was stronger than Kratos
      Kratos was rivaling Thor more than any other
      The hierarchy of the Norse saga is basically this:
      Ragnarok
      Odin
      Thor
      Heimdall
      Freya
      Tyr
      Faye
      Baldur
      Magni=Modi
      Honorable mention: Freyr, Surtr and Sinmara are featsless so we don’t know how powerful they are

    • @ravenpapa27
      @ravenpapa27 Před 5 měsíci

      I think the point is that Kratos had to train harder, push himself further, take on help, anything to be able to beat them. Especially with Tyr, he really had to push himself to be what Tyr is to be able to come close to beating him.

    • @Blake2X4
      @Blake2X4 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ravenpapa27 totally, every Norse god excels in a fighting aspect and their is definitely no one as skilled in combat as Tyr
      Thor and Odin are just powerful in raw strength/power respectively while Gods like Heimdall or Baldur are unbeatable due to hax

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 Před 5 měsíci +2

      What are you on about? If we are keeping it real none of the norse gods reached the feats and devinity displayed by just Ares alone.

  • @nalanhazzard
    @nalanhazzard Před 5 měsíci +4

    Happy we finally got tyr in action agree tyr is the 2nd strongest norse god in gow

  • @drhptudaco6384
    @drhptudaco6384 Před 4 měsíci

    i cant wait for the next games where well see the parallel between how tyr fought and the natives to those lands
    also i just want to see kratos with an odachi because a kata would be too small

  • @gurburgandr
    @gurburgandr Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’d like to bring up something relative to thors second fight and what gives tyr the edge above other Aesir
    And that’s his arsenal, against heimdall nothing could stun him except draupnir, and thor only fought with one weapon that had a faulty handle
    I think what makes tyr the strongest is he can fight in 4 different ways and switch up his approach really fast, against thor and heimdall kratos had to master his body and mind separately, however against tyr, he had to do both

  • @JDWalker495
    @JDWalker495 Před 5 měsíci +17

    Tyr’s biggest power play is casual stopping Kratos’ haymaker casually and then being like “aight lil bro I give”😂
    Like bro I’m not letting end the fade like that, run it back

  • @Sunsp0t_Lu
    @Sunsp0t_Lu Před 5 měsíci +2

    Odin would have likely have had to send Thor, Baldur, and a crap ton of fodder aesir and monsters, and whichever Valkyrie were absolutely loyal to all father.

  • @PunishedSnakeV
    @PunishedSnakeV Před 5 měsíci +1

    He is my favorite and now he is really powerfull

  • @princeofthelake
    @princeofthelake Před 4 měsíci

    This was a good video all tho I will say it is noteworthy in the cutscenes of the fights kratos is not using rage which we know significantly amps him so it gets weird we claim someone is his =

  • @jaxxmarcano5530
    @jaxxmarcano5530 Před 5 měsíci +3

    It would've been nice to see kratos and Tyr fighting alongside eachother in ragnarok

  • @ItsToroh
    @ItsToroh Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’m pretty sure that the spear and shield Tyr uses is his own, based on the statues of him in game

  • @bushidobrown6742
    @bushidobrown6742 Před 4 měsíci

    Damn didn’t think I’d see an MCOC ad. It’s actually a good game

  • @MaiconDouglas-ik6qs
    @MaiconDouglas-ik6qs Před 4 měsíci

    The journey of Kratos comes full circle when it comes to his training. He learned a lot as a Spartan, and then From Ares.
    Now he learned from Tyr!

  • @Kratos176
    @Kratos176 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Tyr is op almost managed to get him on mastery but he took me out the part when you are blind and gotta stay in the rings is just insane

  • @sametkeceli5642
    @sametkeceli5642 Před 5 měsíci

    I think in terms of power and beating other Aesir Pantheons there are some significant facfors. Although Tyr wandered other realms and gain power and traits with charms and so, I have doubts about Tyr's main charachteristics of His godhood. What I mean is, Kratos has his Spartan Rage and it might be the most powerful feature a God could ever have probably. It is not like the Kratos' Spartan Rage but Odin's most distinctive trait is his hunger for knowledge and that is the reason for his endgame power in Ragnarok and that is the reason why He could take under all other pantheons in his command and prisoned Tyr and if we look at lore we can see that Odin didn't go toes to toe with Tyr and fight with him.instead he used manipulation and mind games just as I said it these might be thr Odin's "Spartan Rage". And when we look at the Tyr his "Spartan Rage" is his love and respect for realms, cultures and life of beings in general and his excessive demand for peace and prosperity. Or these things also could be just his some characteristics and what makes Tyr special is the ability to defy his nature as God of War and rejecting become a war and death hunger monster such as Ares once was. The last probability is all these things are not his special feature of godhood as well and We have not seen his "Spartan Rage" yet. This is not a strong possibilty but it is nice to think in my opinion. Tyr character in this franchise gave us so much surprise and I would like to see its some secret aspects or "I wouldn't want to harm you so I didn't show this." Or something like that.

  • @rigen97
    @rigen97 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don't think you can really scale Tyr against Odin's feat of slaying Ymir. Slaying Ymir was a metaphysically significant feat, but there wasn't anything indicating that Ymir itself wielded the sum of power that would later be transformed into the Yggdrasil and the nine realms.
    if you spontaneously convert a human body into energy, the explosion in accordance to E=mc^2 would be beyond anything that ever happened on Earth. but that doesn't mean that the human could wield all that power while alive.

  • @corujadeficiente2865
    @corujadeficiente2865 Před 4 měsíci

    I would like to share something interesting that i noticed about Tyr. First of all I'm Brazilian, and honestly I'm writing this from Google translate, so I'm not sure of the quality of my writing.
    It's about the meaning of Tyr's weapons, the first weapon he shows is a spear and a shield, this is Tyr conventional weapon's, due to the fact that it has his runic symbol. The tyr second weapon is a Macuahuitl,an Aztec weapon used mainly by the god of war and death Tezcatlipoca.
    Tyr third weapon is a pair of Khopesh, a characteristic weapon of the god Anubis, god of death and the underworld.
    And the tyr's last weapon is a katana,a weapon used mainly by Shinigami's in Japanese mythology.
    All three of the tyr weapons have to do with a God of death, the only one that breaks the line is his own weapon. But in fact, when you analyze the symbol that tyr uses on his shield you notice that one of the symbols it carries is that of sacrifice...
    I don't know what this could mean, but this is clearly no coincidence.

  • @itsthatmusic4me
    @itsthatmusic4me Před 5 měsíci +1

    Starting to think tyr was apart of getting kratos to the Norse realm he had help doing due to being inpriosned and being in prison is because he was caught doing it so he himself couldn't do it so he asked another person to carry it out

  • @soonice-dz2gt
    @soonice-dz2gt Před 4 měsíci

    whats that game where u were fighting anubis? it looks cool at 3:10

  • @person3405
    @person3405 Před 4 měsíci

    Will you do more god of war videos?

  • @abhikergaming7783
    @abhikergaming7783 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I personally believe (now that I mostly beaten valhalla dlc) that in my Opinion Tyr could beat Odin in a fight if the battle in question would be a 1v1

  • @annemariegeudeke8378
    @annemariegeudeke8378 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It sounds amazing, especially since it's free, just to bad I sold it when I finished the game, though I'm still not sure if I should buy the game again just for this, despite how good it seems.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci

      Damn that sucks! It’s definitely worth playing at some point!

  • @EKPB
    @EKPB Před 5 měsíci +1

    At this point I want a standalone game for Tyr

  • @CarlosSanchez-ip1vs
    @CarlosSanchez-ip1vs Před 4 měsíci

    Overpowered as hell, the dude kicked my ass more times than I care to count, and yet he's so nice that I can't hate him 😅

  • @dustedjotaro3078
    @dustedjotaro3078 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Find it funny how Kratos and Tyr use a bunch of different weapons as a whole kinda makes me think other God of Wars are geeks for weapons

  • @twistedvtuber9894
    @twistedvtuber9894 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I would actually put Týr and Thor as being on par with one another. It's important to note that the entire time he's in Valhalla, Kratos is having a mental nerf, after not having Atreus around to rally him to be his best (he did say he will keep Atreus in his heart, but I don't think he's fully gotten used to his absence yet), and his struggles being confronted by his past. With Atreus around, Kratos was largely able to suppress his demons from his past, as we see in the base game, when Atreus is in Asgard, Kratos starts to fall apart and regress somewhat, reaching borderline Ghost of Sparta levels when fighting Heimdall. Due to this mental nerf, I think he isn't fighting on the same level he was during Ragnarök during his first few fights, and is slowly working up to being on his Ragnarok level after working through his trauma. Kratos may have gotten moderately stronger and more skilled, but it was more about his mental stability rather than any real combat training

  • @GraveEnd
    @GraveEnd Před 4 měsíci

    Tyr is pretty dope ngl

  • @creeperman1295
    @creeperman1295 Před 3 měsíci

    Something smaller in terms of Tyr's strength is that if you die earlier on in the journey and talk to Sigrun, she mentions how it's impressive how strong he is given his years in captivity. At least to me this implies that Tyr himself was getting stronger and back into his 'A-game' so to speak as he fought Kratos and he progressed through his Valhalla journey.

  • @joekekker1581
    @joekekker1581 Před 3 měsíci

    Tyr summoning a centaur mid final fight was the ultimate pisstake

  • @MalosiVA
    @MalosiVA Před 5 měsíci +1

    Damn Tyr got that Dagestan wrestling under his belt 😤

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +1

      This last name is actually Makhachev

  • @sphinx3749
    @sphinx3749 Před 4 měsíci +1

    can you rank all the aesir for a video?

  • @TLSYoutube
    @TLSYoutube Před 5 měsíci

    Hi. Just pulling weapons from nowhere was sick

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci

      Absolutely

    • @vlad_47
      @vlad_47 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Valkyries, Ares and Kratos can do so too.

  • @Nomad_theElder
    @Nomad_theElder Před 4 měsíci

    @KeyIssues do u know why the mcu nerfs there Asgardian gods like Odin Thor Loki and so on in the new what if ep I have the feeling they nerfed Odin pls tell me I am wrong I don't want to lose hope in the mcu Asgardian gods I only like godly characters pls I need your help

  • @nahumbruintjies-en2gd
    @nahumbruintjies-en2gd Před 5 měsíci

    Can u pls do insomniac Peter Parker vs insomniac miles morales both in the beginning of the game and the end of the game
    Great video btw 🎉👌

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 Před 4 měsíci

    So when he blocked kratos’s punch ( which to my knowledge nobody managed to pull it off)
    Does that mean he is equal to kratos or even more powerful since he is travelled to a lot of places and possibly acquired knowledge and power that can even kill kratos?
    Maybe even cure him?!
    Could “the cure to his curse” be the force that sets the next game in motion and their journey to Egypt perhaps?

  • @DerangedIntellectual9
    @DerangedIntellectual9 Před 3 měsíci

    I think Tyr’s natural pacifism makes him hide a lot of his true power, as in he’s showing a lot less than what he’s actually got goin on. In Valhalla after every spar with Kratos he singlehandedly and effortlessly catches Kratos’ punches without looking. He doesn’t keep fighting cuz he sees Kratos is ready, and obviously as his friend, it’s just a sparring match. A full on all out fight between Kratos and Tyr would shake the entire world for sure.

  • @Yumiiyumi-
    @Yumiiyumi- Před 5 měsíci +13

    Do a video on Atreus I don’t think people realize how powerful he will be when he becomes an adult 😅

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci +4

      I should!

    • @thecalamithy7497
      @thecalamithy7497 Před 5 měsíci

      For now he just can turn into big animal that's all, he's powerful but not as powerful average god in god of war yet

  • @mattswinnerton9892
    @mattswinnerton9892 Před 5 měsíci

    Not played the dlc yet as am saving it (don’t ask) is he as tough as GNA? Or is he relatively easy?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 5 měsíci

      I didn’t lose to Tyr at all but other people had a lot of trouble

  • @Pilyluisfer
    @Pilyluisfer Před 5 měsíci +1

    Greek Gods vs Norse Gods pls

  • @tomhaas7078
    @tomhaas7078 Před 4 měsíci

    I wouldn't mind a prequel game starring Tyr and his journeys to other pantheons alluding to where Kratos will go in the future eventually ending with him being imprisoned by Odin.

  • @clan9855
    @clan9855 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think you got the last one wrong bro
    The last weapon used by Tyr was a Talwar if am correct because a katana is more straight this sword has a little more curve in it to be a katana