Revisiting my least favorite amp from my least favorite series
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We DO NOT disrespect Rectifiers in this house, Kyle.
In my best possible cartman voice “ yeah shut up kyle “
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO, DAD
Both of you guys need to quit fighting or grandpa rick beato will put us all in timeout and we only get to play Marshall’s for a month
@@Dobis86 comes down to taste
Bye an ENGL and you do not need rectifier or enything from mesa... Just saying, not wanna start beef enyone BUT yeah buy engl, blug your guitar in and you are inside your happyplace 😎😎😎😄
Roadsters and Roadkings are a wonderful gem in the recto family. I love how they're now getting the love they deserved so many years ago.
Dude I LOVE sciatica. Not knowing whether or not I'll be crippled for an entire week out of nowhere is pure excitement.
Wake up feeling great and then sit up in bed to instant lightning bolts up the back. Yup, been there.
I'm on the worst end of it.
Nearly 2 years into a sciatic nerve tear around my right ass cheek that recurred after the first time was 18 years ago, and I had to work my muscles to the bone to rehab it. Right now, I have a 50% numb foot but fortunately no pain like the 1st go around. It lasted about 2 weeks this time, then a leg numb from the ankle down.
*I'm on the cusp of going through the brutal lengths with exercise again or it will never heal.*
The 2nd time it was caused from sleeping wrong, only hurt mildly, then I hung in an inversion table and 20 minutes later, *hell on earth pain!* MF inversion table never again!
I had a fall from a 2nd story while running and landed directly on my ass on a wooden stair; that's about the only injury that compares to my sciatic nerve pain and I've had my share of other brutal and life changing injuries.
I gotta say , your riffs and licks are getting somewhere man. I can’t hate. Love that you’re playing different riffs and things more these days. Hope you don’t quit and continue on. I’m looking for a guitar right now myself. Been playing a little over 20 years , had a few guitars in my time. But just yesterday I missed an epi les Paul with emg 81&85 pups amd Grover machine heads. Guy sold it shortly after I talked to him yesterday and told me this morning. I have never wanted to cry so much over an instrument , but I almost did. I wanted it so much. So the hunt continues. Man that amp sounds great tho. Its pretty articulate in that you can hear each string separately even when strumming chords. Love the channel , love the riffs man
Sounds awesome! Love the channel..both from a gear sense and for your personality. Keep being you, boss! Respect!
I love my roadster. The ability to have the fx loop off/on/switchable per channel was life changing for me back in the late 2000s. Running it through 2 2x12s was a really beefy rig.
Sounds awesome! Looks incredible!
You should give us some rear shots of these amps! Maybe some B roll footage of those beauties behinds.
I worked for a dealer when this generation was new. Roadster was meant to be a slightly more affordable and simple take of the RoadKing. Maybe I never got the Roadking dialed in correctly, but I always felt the Roadster sounded better as well.
When i got my tremoverb dual rec, i was dissappointed, couldnt get the tone i wanted, but i kept trying and eventually got it. Now i will never sell it, but those amps make you work for it, but worth it 100%. Also, retubing it made it shine.
Did you notice you were on the middle pickup on the studio? Lol, good video either way🤘🏻
I got a Roadster 2x12 combo 3 years ago as my first «real» amp. All I can say is it's been a love&hate relation since I got it. Sometimes It sounds monsterous, sometimes I want to sell it for almost for nothing just to move on because I hate how it sounds and I'm sick of tweaking knobs to go where I want... but I still keep it. For those who feels the same way, a parametric EQ in the loop makes a big difference and can get you in other territories that you hunt for.
The Road King II and the Roadster were fantastic rectifiers
Wow. Its sounds really raw. More so that some of the mid focused Marshall type amps you like. I can hear the low end through my tablet, lol.
I remember trying the OG 3 channel and wasn't happy with it. IT wasn't until I picked up a Rev G that I really fell in love with them.
I love this amp. I was able to grab one off the 1st run. I was working for a Mesa boogie dealer at the time. I always thought I wanted the Trem o Verb, but when this thing came out, I fell in love.
I got my Roadster about 10 years ago. It's a great amp. I love the cleans and the high gain channels. I was never 100% satisfied with channel 2. It's okay.
It's also a typical rectifier that needs a boost to sound its best. It sounds good without a boost, but sounds so mean with a boost. I also recently retubed it and it livened up a bit.
I also find it easier to dial in than the Mark series, but still not as simple as something like a Marshall, due to the way the EQ sections impact the sound.
I own a lot of amps, and overall it's not my favorite that I own, but it still fills a tone gap that I wouldn't have if I sold it, so I don't plan on ever selling it.
I’ve got one and at first I thought it was just darker/slightly more sluggish dual rectifier. Boosting it helped a ton but then I figured it out when I put a fortin 33 in front. They just really like the higher output upper mid focused boosts. A normal dual rec I think is less picky but man put a 33, duality, precision drive, mud killer in front instead of an older TS circuit and it really rewards you for it.
The Roadster was my first tube amp and first pro amp I ever bought. I was really caught up in all the features it had at the time. Its not a terrible amp but it was definitely fun as a first amp lol I DO like standard Rectifiers but the Roadster can be tricky to make sound as good. I'll always have a sentimental spot for them, but I want a Mark V instead.
I just grabbed a RKII and looove it can still that classic rectifier in addition to plenty of more vintage thrash/hardcore tones which for a studio context is awesome.
I have a love/hate relationship with my Roadster. I keep comparing it to my Diezel VHX and in reality...I shouldn't be. They are totally different sounds. I should run them in stereo and see how huge it sounds.
running mine in stereo with a mark v25....this is it, the chuggs and leads of the heavens
So do you like the Mini-Rec more now than when you did the video review? I am honestly thinking on buying one or the EVH 5150 Stealth 50 😝
I have an older triple rect. Always loved the recorded tones I’d been hearing. But could not replicate it myself, until I put an EQ in the effects loop, and then the whole thing tighten up and sounded incredible
You could buy almost any amp out there on the market and put an eq in the loop and get it to your liking though.
@@Jarrodpimental agreed. But the point I was making here is that the Mesa tri-rec I got didn’t sound great. Loose and grainy even on modern. Built in eq not great because it cascades. But with the separate eq in the effects loop, sounds incredible.
@@paulkeesler4076 fair enough. Point taken.
Great video! Might be fun to do a video of 3 different 3 channel rectos to show the difference 🤷🏻♂️😂 haha
We used a Dual Rectifier and a Marshall DSL 50 to record an album in 2003. The DSL was leaps and bounds better than the Rectifier but hindsight being 20/20, I think it was the cab, not the amp.
Every time i hear that momentary instrumental bridge in Tera-Fied, it still gives me chills. These two really loved each other. You can literally sense her presence in the last 2 albums. Wayne definitely changed. Love is something.
Boogies are pretty much all i think of when I think of triple rectifier amps.
I love them mixed with a killer Marshall but for myself, like you, i just never could get a good tone. I never found one I could just love. Maybe some day
I feel the same way about 5150/6505 style amps, and I’m a huge Peavey fan! My main rig is a VTM 60 through a Butcher cab G12k85/Ampeg cab V30s. I also have a 3120 that I consider my alternative to the 5150 thing, just less compressed and a bit more precise.
I just can’t get with 5150s, which is super unfortunate as they’re all over everyone’s back line.
Dude. Had a tree channel and never loved it. Played a buddies road king. And I immediately said. “This isn’t the crap I remember”. Completely different voicing. Great amps.
Biggest thing to remember is that channel 4 has more presence than channel 3. Channel 4 is very close to a recto multi watt. I can set up channel 4 next to my multi-watt triple and for the most part nail it. I do run el34s in my roadster, it gives it slightly better mids and presence.
I loved my roadster but it spent around 9 months at Mesa during the first year of ownership. They ended up giving me a MKV and still sending me the roadster back. Then I immediately traded it for a Shiva and 5150-II 😂
Have you tried a Monomyth yet? Just got one of Shea’s production run ones and it’s a fire breather, you should try and check one out
I just recently got a heritage custom core and I can’t believe it took me so long to buy one. They’re incredible!
Did a good job with the thumbnail. I thought this was gonna be about the Triple Crown
Why is your 3-way switch in the middle position?
I had one a few months back and couldnt wait to get rid of it. Much like you said at the start of the video I tried it with a ton of different cabs, different guitars and different boosts and it just sounded like garbage no matter what I did. I'm totally accepting the blame was on me because I know this thing is capable of awesome tone. In this same room I'm surrounded by many high end amps by Engl, Diezel, Marshall, Peavey etc and I've never struggled to get a good tone with any of them, but that Roadster did not want to co-operate with me. I'll likely revisit one again at some stage as I know I could have done a better job with it, but it really didnt seem like it was worth the effort at the time so I was happy to see it gone.
Started with a rect-o-verb, moved to a Road King 2, have had it for about 18 years.
I think the best boost for a Rectifier is an EQ pedal as a clean boost. Boss GE-7, Lichtlaerm Aesahaettr, something of that nature used to cut the bass and boost the mids and treble. I find most overdrives flatten the guitar’s natural tone, especially in an amp as flubby as a Mesa Rectifier.
Great vid Kyle. I has a weird feeling that was Joe's. We talked about doing a trade a few years ago but he decided to keep it.
"big and open", are we really talking about amps? haha, great video
I had a Roadster back in 2009. It's an OK amp, but I see it as more of a stepping stone to the Dual Rec Multi Watt, which I have now and like so much better.
Got my triple recto from you and have been in love since.
EQ-200 at the end of fx loop and a Mud Killer boosting channel 3..... OMG..yum 🤘
14:10 Got a little more than I bargained for Kyle. 🤣
I bought a used roadster head a few years back and didn’t love it. I then changed out all of the tubes. Made all the difference in the world.
*My Triple Rectifier disappointed me for YEARS until I bought equalizer pedals. At first, I thought my Gibson SG was the culprit, so I changed stock pickups and all electronics. Still anemic. I will no longer write off amps and guitars until I try with an EQ pedal.*
I use a dual rectifier multi watt from 2011 with a ts9 and v30s 4x12, love it
You’ve described my relationship with 5150/6505s. They sound great when other people play them but never sound like I want them to when I play.
Having a 3ch multi watt, I have no problems getting good classic sounds out of ch2, modern, but you have to accept that you will turn the gain way down and the volume up considerably. And an OD still helps.
I'm not too crazy about it. The modern sounds were ok more so in drop but they sound a little muffled or something to me. Great vid as usual
kyle!!! dude, i'm 53 and been dealing with bad siatica for 20 years now...i feel your pain!!!
I was thinking you were going to give the Egnater Vengiance another try. I couldn't even get a decent tone out if that thing with a 10 band in the loop. Literally the sonic equivalent of a shaved dog butt.
Why were you playing in the middle pickup position in the beginning of the playing segment?
I was about to write off this head until the drop C riffs. The lower tuning definitely saved this demo tbh. I do like the Badlander, but overall I’m not a huge Mesa fan either
i've been a roadster user live for over 10 years, amazing amp and so underated, better cleans than a standard recto, I even sold my Roadking II and kept my Roadster after having them side by side
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Dude, love your channel! Just want to say thank you for all you do because I know it's a ton of work and you are really putting out some great content. 80's baby appreciated 🤘🏻 Rock on, keep up the great work, and look forward to more brotha! 🔥🔥🤘🏻 I have a 3 channel dual rec btw, I know it can be temperamental with the eq for some, but so many hits I fell in love with during my college years in the early 2000's were played on it (Linkin' Park, Puddle of Mudd, Incubus, Nickelback - sorry haters, Metallica on a MKV, and I'm sure I'm missing more), the EQ helps you shape to all that stuff, you really can't go wrong for that era of music!
Some of my favorite music was made on Rectos but I just couldn’t get them to work for me either. I sold my Tremoverb and bought a JCM 2000 DSL. I love the Marshall!
LoL, crazy, I hated my Marshall 2000 DSL,, hated it for metal. It was ok for rock. I sold it and got a Mesa tremoverb. Tremoverb took some dialing in, but now it's my best sounding amp next to Fryette.
Looks and sounds killer 🤘
Huge Roadster fan here. I have a combo and head version that I never plan to sell.
I had a mid 2000s 3 channel dual solo and hated it but when I made a profile of it in the Kemper I swear it sounds better than the real amp.
I bought one of these from Zilla cabs who has re-tolexed it in white for me to match my Zilla cab. I really liked it but life problems dictated I had to sell a lot of guitar gear. Unfortunately the amp and cab went, and for a lot less than they're worth now. Big shame!
As per the comment I have put on the Stiletto video before, you should try lowering the master just a touch and increasing the output to compensate and see how that goes for you
I 💯 % agree with you. I bought a triple rec from my friend thinking I was gonna plug it it an get LOG sound. I was completely wrong. It was loud an brutal. But I could never tame it even with Overdrive in the front noise gate. I recently sold for a mark iii no stripe. I will buy another one down the line. But for now I still have my 6505 for my metal/thrash stuff. ROCK ON !!!
I had Roadster for few years. Sold it, just couldn’t get it sound right. Had more fun with typical 3 chl.
Always know the service history on roadster and road king amps.
Infinite channel pop mute is one of the most annoying amp qc issues of all time, and these were notorious for it.
What did the Clean sound, sound like???
Never played a Roadster, but own a RoadKing V1 a few Rev F's, Rev G's, a few multiwatts and the recto preamp and if I had to choose one, it would be my Roadking V1 it sounds almost identical to my Ref F. I did own a early 2000 3ch recto for like a few weeks and did not like it and sold it ASAP. Maybe I should've put new tubes in it first. Great vid like usual \m/
You should join Kyle at his amp-addicts non-anonymous meetings!
Great... now I want one
Roadster is very pickup sensitive. Playing through the Alpha/Omega set will feel much better than say the EMG81. Also if my memory serves correctly channel 2 is the same design as the lone star model.
Bought the Roadster new shortly after it came out. It took time to learn but it has been my favorite for over a decade especially when paired with a Keeley TS9. I will not part with it.
I have a modify Dual Rec from 2002 that I'll never get rid of.
I had to give the Rectifier the time I wanted to a year ago. Acquired a Dual Rec Rev G at a great deal of about 1k. Was it fun to bring the brutal chugs? Absolutely. But alas even with speaker selection and switch up of pickups I just never liked how the mids sat with them. I ended up trading for a PRS Archon 100 that I liked much better. Still 5150 for life over here. Possibly because that was my first tube amp I have inevitably compared other amps to it since about things I liked or didn't like about them.
The only amp I have regretted selling was my multi watt dual rec
So did you do that whole demo with the LP studio in the mid position ? I saw you hit the selector switch but it popped back into the middle position and looks like it's there through the whole demo.
Use your ears my friend. I often don't wire in my neck pickups when changing pickups to aftermarket becausei never use it and use that switch position as a killswitch. I get this comment a lot and find it surprising how many people comment with questions like these when you should be able to tell just by the sound that the neck pickup is not in the circuit.
@@belligerentamateur Damn. Now, I feel stupid for asking that question.
@@belligerentamateurI heard the audio but I also know what my eyes saw which is exactly why I asked the question. Exactly how am I to know how you have the guitar wired? Question was an honest one. Honestly, your answer comes off as super indignant and I'm not sure why.
Ever tried a Hughes & Kettner Warp? Most overlooked amp in the metal scene. It had Nu-Metal advertisment so guitar snobs shunned it. I hoard the Warp Factor Pedal whenever I catch it mega cheap. Sooo fat
Where you using both pickups on the Gibson guitar because the toggle switch was in the middle position?
No
Never liked Rectifiers myself, I love the tones that some players get with them, but I cannot get them to sound good. Completely agree with your intro speech.
Same. Love pat O’Brien triple rec sound but never materialized for me. O well
I've never liked playing rectos and the only sound I liked that Kyle got out of this was with the boost at the end. Different strokes.
the roadster is the little brother to the road king without the progressive linkage (ie choosing tubes per channel)
exactly - beat me to the punch lol
The K100 lacking bassy punch on our end man. Modern setting sounded best.
I wanna say Sleepytime Gorilla Museum used one and i loooove their tones. 🤷♀️
My friend has 2 triple rectifiers,, idk but I think he needs to work on his sound but I’m not really into it ,,sounds muddy
8:45 the switch pop back to mid position.. lol..
Great video. The Roadster is one of the very few amps I've sold and don't regret one bit. I think they are absolutely killer as an all-in-one amp solution but I don't think it did the really nasty recto thing as well as a 2ch Rev G and I didn't like the crunch compared to a Marshall-type or Mark series amp. It could cover the ground really well, I just felt it wasn't exceptional in any specific area. I'd buy one again in a second if I were gigging though.
Key word for all things recto-Presence,presence, presence!!!!!!
If you ever yeet an amp outside make sure to record it cuz I wanna see it 😂
I owned a racktifier for a spell. I couldn't gel with it: too cold, stiff, and just lacked personality. Sold it for a few hundred more than I paid for it.
I would love to get my hands on a Road King II
I had the combo, very honky sounding...HEAVY AS HELL but extremely versatile, i sold it. Traded my buddy a 2009 3ch Recto for his Roadster head, very happy w the Roadster. EQ in fxloop and TS in front is a must
I love this amp.
Had a roadikng , sold it, got a mark iv....thank God!!!
Roadster is my favorite recto by far.
To my ears that speaker mic didn't work well. Zero low end, I do think it'd pair real well with a dv77.
On another note, I noticed that you haven't been using the duality dx for a while now.
Please would you be able to do a video on the road king 2 if you can get your hands on one. Would love to hear you demo that amp.
nice rythym hand
Wish I had money for all this gear
Then when it breaks, and it will, stupid time and$ to repair, if the amp tech will even touch it. Evh 5153(which I own) is the same way but doesn’t cost near as much. Waaay too many components crammed into those Mesa s
sounds killer
Fireball 25 🔥
Couldn't tell that @Kyle Bull is into high gain amps... Welcome to the club with nerve pain bro, I'm the unofficial ambassador of something I don't want to be a part of😂 Some of the reason why I don't bang on the drums and hobble around. Thank God for 🤘🎸☠️
Shit those riffs were better than what’s on Metallica’s new album. Nice review…never would have known this amp.
looks like a Peavey Triple X to me
The Road King v2 is my favorite DR. My Tremoverb sounds better by doesn’t have diversity the RK does