Mario Party DS Retrospective: A Fun-Sized Finale
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - The Handheld Experience
2:22 - Board Mechanics
7:14 - Spaces & Plain Space Density
12:26 - Items & Hexes
19:26 - Bonus Stars
22:24 - Boards
37:00 - Minigames
47:25 - Minigame Modes
49:42 - Duel Modes
52:52 - Beginner Friendliness
54:24 - Conclusion (Mario Party Series Ranking)
Mario Party DS is a bittersweet game for me. It is one of the games that I personally have played the most of, and it has a lot of really neat, fun bits of side content that stand out, especially since this game is on a handheld and not a console like the other Mario Party games. However, Mario Party DS is the last game to be developed by Hudson Soft, the original developer of this series before they would inevitably pass this series on to its new developer, ND Cube. So, this Mario Party DS marks the end of an era for the series - but how does Mario Party DS fare when compared to its console counterparts? Well, find out in today's episode of Mark's Rec Room: the long-awaited Mario Party DS retrospective. Thanks so much for watching these videos, it's really been cool getting to gush about these games that have been a huge part of my multiplayer gaming experiences. This series is planned to continue with the ND Cube games, but honestly, those videos will likely take some time because I think that they'll need to be structured differently since those games are radically different from the Hudson Mario Parties, and I'm not sure exactly how I want to tackle them just yet. Rest assured, though, the "finale" in the title is just meant to signify the finale of the Hudson era. Thanks for reading this, if anybody actually reads this. Comment your favorite Mario Party board of all time in the comments if you actually read all this, lol
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Thanks for watching! What is your favorite Mario Party DS minigame?
ukiki climbing minigame
@@BLJ52737 that's mario party 8
Camera Shy
Absolutely cube crushers
The boss minigames of the mario Party series are very underrated
Every Mario game on the DS was a hit, but you could not pull me away from this game. The nostalgia from playing it really hits you.
Same
The last of the Hudson Soft Mario parties, there was a game called “Oops! Prank Party” that Hudson Soft developed that is similar to Mario Party made in 2010 before they went bankrupt.
Algorithm comment
Nintendo leaves no prisoners
Bankrupt? I thought Konami bought them
@@nicholascooney the 2 kinds of bankruptcy that exists are liquidation, which is what you’re thinking of, and chapter 11, which is just being managed by another company. So yes they went bankrupt and now Konami is handling that business, even if they’re not doing anything
Oops! All pranks!
The fact you was able to play in multi without another cartridge was pure genius
It's crazy that this was the best Mario party ever released and it stayed that way for like 14 years
Mario party 8 AND DS were are my most played MPs ever
Mainly to the combo of release and my age at the time
Many cool memories with these 2 :)
I remember playing Mario Party DS a ton back in my youth. It was easily one of my most played games in the series, though that can obviously be contributed to it being the only "true" portable Mario Party experience for the longest time. I unfortunately never got to play it in multiplayer, so those two player modes you showed off I didn't even know existed until now. But that didn't change how much I adored coming back to this one again and again. Even today, it's hard for me to think of anything I find super wrong with it given that its quality is pretty consistent, though there probably isn't much reason to come back to it outside of novelty purposes. I definitely agree with Camera Shy being the best minigame here, though I also remember Dust Buddies, Raft Riot, Soap Surfers, Hedge Honcho, Cyber Scamper, Domino Effect, Goomba Wrangler, and Globe Gunners very fondly. And yes, I did read the description, and I'll proudly tell you that Woody Woods is peak chaos. Thanks so much for doing this series over the past two years. It's been a really fun ride going through memory lane (haha Mario Party 6 minigame reference lol so epic) while also providing some solid critique along the way. I'm wishing you the best of luck for when you get to the NDcube titles. You're gonna need it. We should hop on a round or two sometime. :)
fun fact, the ds mic detects intensity with pressure, so if you just kiss your mic like it's a trumpet you guarantee the meter being maxed out the entire time with no drawback
These Mario Party reviews are quickly becoming some of my most anticipated YT video releases
imo the star pipe isnt as big of an issue to me due to the economy of DS. having one player buy a single star and take a giant lead is not as fun as constantly competing for stars. you keep going back and forth to "stars are so powerful, why are they handed out for free" and "theres so many stars one star is worthless". in older games, its just a game of trading the same star back and forth so this is very refreshing.
in older MP games i always steamrolled everyone since im good at minigames. buying one star gave me such an advantage it was no fun. and since i always won minigames, even if my friends got a star, stealing it was no problem. but in DS, i actually lost to my sister many times despite her being kinda bad at games and her not really being interested in games. its just more accessible if you have friends that arent gamers and i think that really made it much more fun to me since my friends were never gamers.
i always believed coins in older games had way too much power. you can buy stars, steal stars, get one free star after the game, etc. but in DS, due to the economy, this problem is not as big of an issue anymore.
Then you remember the Roulette Wheel in Bowser's Pinball Machine exists
@@AkameGaKillfan777and it’s timeable!
@@luiginumbers6268 There's literally an achievement for finishing with 500 coins, and I've done 999 multiple times.
MPDS is the best mario party ever, the amount of characters, the boards, the minigames, the story mode, all perfection
At least it didn’t have a goddamn car.
yeah I remember getting the Mario party for the Wii U and when I first played it my thought was 'wtf happened to this series'
@@clurgee4923 The board looks so deceptively beautiful, then they bring out the car. Then you desperately search for a mode or a setting to get rid of the car. Then you realize there’s no escape.
@@nickdegugs7190 absolutely. Always loved the "every man for himself" mentality that Mario party, Mario kart, smash bros. had. Cramming everyone into a car made no sense. Though I never played any of the games in between, I feel like the charm of Mario party sorta died with the DS game. I have one of the party games for the switch, and though it ditched the cars thankfully, I feel like it's lost a lot of its wittiness and charm. If I recall correctly, it's Mario Party Superstars. It's just a callback to some older boards, but it's also lacking any real storyline. I played it for an hour or two with my brother and dropped it because I wasn't invested at all.
Superstars forever enrages me cause they brought back so many minigames that nobody ever wanted to see again, and also butchered Space Land (one of the best boards in the series, mechanically speaking) by having the police cars chase you to a corner of the map and getting you stuck for half the fuckin game with no option for escape but to buy a skeleton key and hope to god nobody lands on a happening space, where in the original it forced everyone onto the diagonal path and made it a frantic dash to avoid getting hit by the coin ray. why they did that will forever be inexplicable to me
@@nickdegugs7190 Just like the Underworld prince learned, *there is no escape.*
Favorite Mario Party game ever. (Also the first one I've ever played)
Also how dare you disrespect Bowser's Pinball Machine. (The best board in the series for obvious reasons... TheRunawayGuys would agree with me...)
haha thanks for watching though!! i’m sorry i don’t love Bowser’s Pinball Machine as much - what are some of the reasons that you think it’s the best in the series?
@@marksrecroom BPM definitely has one of the best presentations out of all the boards in the series, and I definitely feel like it captures the spirit of Mario Party quite well. Both the Wheel of Wonder & the Chests of Chance can be timed to land on what you want, it can be difficult to pull off which definitely balances them both out quite well. I get your main criticism of the boards being a bit smaller than the console ones, but, as you already said, it makes sense for a handheld entry. Not to mention this was the Mario Party game I grew up with...
Same
@@marksrecroomNext Mario Party game when?
Minor correction, you said the trumpet in toadette's music room could send you directly before or after the star, but it'll actually always put you directly before
Thanks for this ambitious deep dive video! This was the Mario Party game of my childhood! Keep up the good work! ❤
These Mario Party Retrospectives were so good and well thoughtout thank you
Mario Party DS was and still is my favourite Mario Party game. Even playing so much of it that i reached max Mario Party Points. Great Video
Such a joy to see! Love your Mario Party videos!!!
Thanks so much! I hope that you enjoy this episode, it's the longest yet lol
Mario party DS holds a special place in my heart as being the game i played all the time on the bus to highschool with all the other kids. They introduced me to the game and it made me want the game for myself. Download play allowed me to join everyone on the fun. Truly i was lucky to be able to enjoy 3-4 player games with other people consistantly. I've never had a game where i was able to play with others for so long. The DS was truly special.
I should point out that because we played on a bus the vibration of the engines would activate the mic rather unpredictably, which made shortfuse more chaotic and tense. It would often fill the bus with screams and laughter hoping to not get blown up but also wanting the noise to push them just that much further (you can tell at least on one occasion, one of the kids made noise to screw over the other player.) Best days of my school time. Short fuse was unironically a blast to play with so many people (in harsh conditions no less) so i dont care what you say, that game's a 10.
I really admire your passion to produce quality content. Never played this game, but I feel well-informed after a journey in your shoes. Keep up the stellar videos, content-creator formally known as Octavian! 😎
These reviews are truly awesome and obviously made by someone loving their topic. Thanks for your content !
Let's go, Mario Party DS appreciation!
Definitely my favorite in the series due to the minigames alone
really well made video, i really enjoyed it :)
8 and DS were huge games in my childhood.. i never knew they were out at the same time
very nice video, cant wait for the next
Yay, a new Mario Party video!
I used to play Mario Party DS with my twin sister all the time and we had so much fun. But nowadays, I think I've come to the same conclusion that you have; despite how hard it tries, playing Mario Party on a handheld just won't be as good as on a home console. With that said, it's definitely the best handheld Mario Party (unless you count Superstars as a handheld game, but even then that's debatable).
Keep up the good work! And I'm glad you gave Rocket Rascals the credit it deserves, it's my favorite minigame mode in the whole series.
great video! subscribed
I don't think star pipes are as bad as you made them out to be. They don't start appearing until turn 6, meaning you can use at most three. Additionally, the price of three pipes and stars is 105 total, which isn't guaranteed in this economy. Plus, the existence of the Snag Bag slightly keeps them in check.
I won't pretend that it's a great item, but it doesn't split the game in half.
Dude…this video is awesome
Thanks a bunch, i appreciate it!!
My siblings and I played this for probably hundreds of hours, thanks for the nostalgia trip lol
I have some opinions on the Mario Party DS boards, but here is my ranking:
5. Kamek's Library
The board being separate into two smaller boards is one aspect that I dislike. Another is that Kamek only uses 2 spells numbered 8 and 88. I get that it's a small cartridge but a little more variety in spells would have been nice. And on the topic of Kamek, he is the only boss battle that has an extra challenge that players have to deal with before facing him.
4. Toadette's Music Room
This is an okay board. Not a big fan of the 5th note charging 30 coins for a star instead of 25. Other than that, there isn't a whole lot that I like or dislike.
3. Wiggler's Garden
A fair board to start the story with, and isn't too punishing to new players.
2. Bowser's Pinball Machine
It's the aesthetic of the board that gets it this high. Love the Chest of Chance and the Wheel of Wonder, even if they can frustrate players. Bowser controls the right flipper and plunger while Bowser Jr controls the left flipper.
1. DK's Stone Statue
The only board with a designated star space instead of stars appearing and reappearing on random blue spaces when they are collected.The beehive and tri-coloured vines were good features.
Your vids are so relaxing and interesting to watch and listen to! Im surprised how underrated you are. Have you thought about doing a Paper Mario/ Mario RPG series?
Love your Mario Party videos! One of the few games I really really get excited for when a new entry shows up.
Will you be covering the most controversial ones? 9,10, 3DS?
Noticed your tone became more angry in mario party 8 and ds, ever since from mario party 7, no offense tho but I prefer your calm voice before HAHA
I have hundreds of memories playing Mario Party DS with my older brother, what an incredible game srsly it was so fun and never gets boring, hell during quarantine we played it again and had a blast 😭
Ah Mario Party DS, my first Mario Party game, I love most of its aspects and it will always hold a special place in my heart, I wouldn’t say it’s the best, but definitely one of my favorites, thanks for making this video, loved your Mario Party series of videos and if this is the end of the series, it was a pleasure joining you through this journey!!
P.S. did you know 2 minigames were eliminated in the Korean version of the game?
Am I the only one that hasn't seen a block sensor anytime playing this game??
It comes out of a Grab Bag, which you can only buy on the last 5 turns
Oh damn i forgot about mario party ds. I used to love this game!
The D.S. Mario Party is my favorite Mario party tied with 6.
I loved this video, and i actually learned quite a few things about this game despite the fact that I've actually played this game for years since I was a kid and cuz im also a nerd for mario party lol
Ive even beaten its story mode twice
Ive like never ran into some of these board events (to be fair it was mostly kameks) and i didnt even know that the block sensor existed LOL
And yeah the side content was awesome, i used to play the puzzle games for hours
On the topic of the following games, tbh the minigames in like 9 and 10 are pretty alright but left behind like almost all of hudson's charm and theming and the boards reek lol
Glad that the "finale" in the title isn't indicating the end of the series. As someone who's played MP9 and Island Tour, I think it'd be fun to give the post-Hudson party games a chance (I admittedly always had a soft spot for them due to their Wii Party influence...)
Agreed! Mario Party 9 has a lot of flaws but is still a great time, and I would love to hear more people discuss the "Wii Party" franchise because I was obsessed with that first game as a kid. I must have played "Board Game Island" a thousand times, and even when I didn't have other people to play multiplayer with I'd just hook up multiple controllers and play against myself lol
YES, I was hoping our cover this! I made a comment about it on your 8 video
Let’s see if you decide to review 9 and 10 as well. I warms hear you trash on them lmao.
Keep up the amazing content!
1 thing i will say about the duel mechanics in 8 that makes it better than 7 is that u can time the wheel
I played this game twice, and both times were for over 6 hours and I remember losing everything
camera shy was always my favourite mingame
I actually like kameks library
Dang mario party ds nostalgia is real, i remember when this was on 7000-8000 views a few days ago
Good video sure noticed you like the word juxtaposition a lot but very entertaining nonetheless!
After watching what you’ve released of this series so far, I’m curious how many games you play on each board and with how many players for your research
I plan to do retrospective like this because damm, Mario Party to me is a super underrated series and i don’t think people give the credit it deserves like with Mario kart, especially the hudson soft era man!!!
I’m sorry, i just love this franchise SO MUCH 😅❤
I played this game a lot during my childhood, but weirdly enough I've never encountered the hidden block that contained an item, nor the grab bag or block sensor. It must've been very rare. 🤔
koopa's tycoon town is peak mario party
6:08 you forgot to mention the coin block hex can also spawn as a hidden block, and its rare like the multi-star hidden block or the item hidden block (which i didn't know existed until i watched this video because i never found it)
I miss DS Download play SO much. Nintendo games are so expensive these days, and I have so many fond menories of playing DS games with other people on choir trips, or beating my classmates in Mario Kart.
This was the Mario party I played the most
are you gonna make videos on non hudson soft mario parties?
this game had boss fights as a series first on every board in story mode and a bit more plot than usual mario party
One thing I never noticed about this game until recently is that every board has its own host apparently. Wiggler hosts his garden, Toadette hosts her music room, Diddy hosts Donkey Kong’s Stone Statue, Kamek hosts his library, and Bowser hosts his pinball table.
You never played Story Mode?
The DS really had a lot of fun Mario spinoff games like MK DS and MP DS. Mario Party DS is my favorite in the Mario party series and the story was cute
Kamek's Library in Story Mode
-inhales- AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Sigh
6:28 in all the hours I’ve spent on Ds, that is the first time I have ever seen that block at all
Mario Party DS always got a pass on its shortcomings because it was the mobile version. I remember long car rides with my brother that were made so much easier on us (and our parents) because we could play Mario Party together. The Nintendo DS was such a big part of my childhood, and this game was one of the most played for me.
to be fair, the ds at the time was one of, if not the most sold console at the time without counting the variations. everyone I knew at the time of the release of this game had a ds. people had more chances to have a ds than a wii in general according to statistics.
Ah yes, the game that stole ProtonJon's sanity XD
That Let's Play is barely a year old, and it's already legendary for treating Jon as its Canadian plaything.
Everyone knows that it's supposed to be Reese's job to make Jon her Canadian plaything!
Honestly did not expect the Baka Mitai piano cover for the ending
Wow. Your ranking is nearly identical to mine, except DS goes between 3 and 7 for me.
hey whats that first song that plays in the very beginning of the video called it sounds so cool
it’s “Museum” from Sonic Gems collection! the song titles are at the top left corner throughout the video so if you find another one you like you can check the name there!
57:03 Imagine these characters using voice lines from Mario Party 10.
Are you going to review the NDCube Mario Partys, too?
Mario Party DS is a fun game and it’s so sad to what happened to Hudson Soft and Konami acquiring their IPs and doing nothing with them.
Also I like that you used Yakuza music in the background.
A lot of people forget that ND Cube is made up mostly of old Hudson Soft developers.
this game is so fun. a shame two of the best side modes are locked behind download play
This game was my childhood. I remember playing this game a lot with my cousin, and while he always destroy me everytime; it was still fun for me and him to get together and play a round of MP on the go. This is a really great analysis of MPDS, even if I can’t bring myself to too critical with it, there are faults to it that do hinder in retrospect.
The items were mostly decent, it’s kinda cheap and the fact you can buy 3 items with less amount of coins is pretty stupid, Golden Pipes especially completely break the game especially on Kamek’s Library and the price being 15 coins isn’t as cheap as SMP 10 coins for Pipes, but still is cheap and makes the game meaningless.
The minigames I think are decent, but have stinkers that I think stinks pretty hard, but overall still a decent selection.
Obviously, DS was my game growing up; so I have a personal bias for it, but this game is far from perfect and you make a great point that being on a handheld, it makes this entry pretty hard to complete with the console entries despite how hard it tries. I will always have a soft spot for this game, and this is a great retrospective of DS, and I mostly agree with your points while disagree with some aspects mostly in your minigames sections.
Great job Mark, and can’t wait until you review Mario Party 9
One last thing, I think this and 2 are the most charming MPs for its themes imo.
i swear to god in all my years of playing mario party DS (i bought the game twice cause i lost my first cartridge i loved it that much) i have NEVER seen the multiple star hidden block
Mario party DS is actually the third hand held game in the series. The prior two games were Mario party advance, and Mario party e.
In regards to just one person owining a copy needed to play a game..... what about using Parsec or Remote Play? those features are great.
Well ain't these the DeathS of Mario Party of Hudson Soft and MP on the DS.
Wait how did you record on a ds?
The crystal orb in Kamek’s Library legit looks like part of the Brazilian flag.
Mario party DS is my favorite Mario party
Next Mario Party game when?
yo, great video
Hmmmmm…….so I’m wondering……….if there’s no Hudson Soft anymore……..are you gonna review the Non Hudson Soft Mario Party Games……..the one people hate (except Superstars And….do I count Super?
47:58 this song sounds so much like the pineapple on pizza game on steam
It's too bad that this was the last good game for over a decade until Super released. In fact a certain new game that just released is better than all of those with the Mario Party formula, but with its own spin on things.
What is that game? Party project?
@@mrpiccionedivino5598 Demon Slayer: Sweep the Board
Expert difficulty in this game is unfair 99% of the time.
Analyzing as a casual Mario Party game, I think MPDS is a serviceable game that it is interesting and I believe there are a lot of great things to be found here, like the minigames and even for solo players with the simple but effective Story mode, but I still inferior to the ones in Mario Party 3 and 9. However as someone that put 40+ hours to the game trying to unlock everything in the gallery, having to grind for Party Points and replaying boards for Board features its a pain in the ass and makes me dislike the game considerably. Also The minigame modes, except for Rocket Rascals are the same exact modes seen in other MP games but blander, Triangle Twisters sucks (Other Throwback Puzzles like Stick n Spin and Piece Out are cool though) and the boards are just fine, nothing greati. Its definitely not in my Top 5 Mario Party games thats for sure.
Now if you do look at the NDcube Mario Parties, please make sure to make some research on who actually worked on those games (spoilers, a majority of NDcube devs are ex-Hudson devs, so the new direction for the series isn't a case of new blood ruining everything)
I really dislike duels in this game. They're absurd swings that can happen a lot in a match, made worse when it's a match that has two stars at stake when the other player risks nothing. I also think the boss minigames are pretty boring and I don't like the cute little descriptions and badges are very fun unlockables. The boards are fun but they have size issues, Stone Statue has serious scaling issues because stars can be gotten in waves, made astronomically worse when the cost drops to 5 coins.
I think the minigame select is particularly good, even with a few duds like that one spotlight dance one. The controls feel pretty good and the creativity is strong. I think the game's about as good as a DS Mario Party can be, having an insane value for a single cart (very little loading past the first bootup!) and some fun side minigames. It unfortunately suffers from some crunchy audio too, but given what it's on it's a pretty good game that has some really strange decisions like duels and the shop.
I could be wrong but I think the events that happen in Bowser's Pinball Machine was actually caused by Bowser Jr, not his dad
It's Bowser
no way bro said Bumber Balls is not fun
6:55
R.I.P. Protonjon.
I love the honest critical review. Since this is my first MP game I am super biased 😅 i won’t lie I was offended when you said some of the minigames was boring 😭😭 I could never get bored of this game, idc about mashing the buttons it’s all about winning!
Four words:
Piracy… is no party.
I am commenting #BringBackDislikes on every unique CZcams video that I watch for the rest of 2024, regardless of if I actually dislike the video or not. This is video 2102.
Mario Party feels forever stuck trying to find a way to rubber band for losing players ala Mario Kart when its absolutely not needed
Huh?
Promo sm 💖
His opinon drives me crazy...its either too uneventful or the stakes get raised and there too impactful...the hell does he want??? One or two stars gained to powerful one taken one away too powerful...should everything just give 10 coins and nothing else??
second
*I am going to cry when this guy puts Mario Party 10 at the bottom, not 9 though. That game may be one of if not my first ever video game, but that game is mid*