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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2024
- Kurts Card Care responds to 1953 Jackie Robinson being decertified by PSA after it was found Kurts Card Care was used on the vintage baseball card.
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Kurt has a point though. You tried to play the part of a journalist, and instead acted the part of a child.
The take away from the PSA statement is do not make a video of cleaning your cards. That’s direct evidence that allows PSA to decertify your cards. PSA cannot detect card cleaning unless you make a stupid ass video showing the cards being cleaned. Basically clean your cards in private and PSA will never know.
Facts
There must be a million submission videos showing people cleaning or saying they cleaned their cards on CZcams. I think PSA is going to have to rethink their stance and might be forced to legally.
It's not like you can't crack the deactivated case number and resubmit the card under a new account. The fact that PSA upcharges you because your card got a high grade is the real crime.
@@Gottoyzforsale FACTS
I'm gonna use your reference to buying a new Honda. Does the dealership not clean the car right after you bought it??? Yes, they do. You can't make every card a 10. There is an AI card grading co. That offers cleaning before grading. I have graded cards encased with fingerprints on them that didn't grade a 10 more than likely because of that exact issue. The restoration is a different subject but man why the shit talking about him personally?? Kurt's a good man
So we can restore classic paintings, but not little pictures of men. OK.
They openly admit the painting is restored by professionals, unlike some fraudsters who use unknown substances, risking damage to the card. Why apply substances to a modern-day card? 😂 It's diluting the value of PSA 10s, especially with PSA's questionable 60-40 grading scale.
So if i hired a sports card restoration professional it's ok then?
@@jimt4170 Are you in grade school? Y’all are complicating things by comparing cards to paintings and even cars. 🤦 You need to learn the meaning of transparency.
Are you? My question was very clear to which you provided no cogent counterargument besides an ad hominem attack. Again, if there were professional card restoration professionals is it ok to you then? That's the question.
@@jimt4170if it's being disclosed, fine. Bug it's not. Sellers arent being open about what cards theyve soaked and havent. Until sellers are willing to be honest, your "restoring art" argument holds no weight.
Yet PSA won't decert the Honus Wagner that was admittedly trimmed.
You're wasting your time with these hobby boys
Paintings, books … basically, every form of paper, 2D collectible has sub-industries involving restoration, from well before sports or trading cards existed. You boys are ridiculous …
its not counterfeit but you guys should answer why you made baseless accusations about him personally. That was a valid question
does Kurt need a tissue?
@@SportsCardRadio I don't know he didn't seem like the one crying on and on but perjury is worse than submitting a soaked card to a greedy grading company. It should be declared altered and that's that. He tried his hand and failed only due to posting a video on it. So that says a lot more about PSA. People will get altered sending straight out of the pack because of poor quality. It could've been a respectful conversation but all I saw was gotcha, ill intent, guns blazing mentality which ruined the conversation.
@@SportsCardRadioDo you need a lawyer ?
@@SportsCardRadio This person made a valid point and you asked him if he needs a tissue. Nice.
@@SportsCardRadiodid you need tissues when Ken Goldin called you "jack offs" 😢
Zero issues with Kurt and I’m 56
ur washed
Why wouldn't you buff that scratch out of your 2024 Honda Accord?
"tell me you dont know anything about soaking w.o telling me you dont know anything about soaking"
Talk to Zach Wilson about soaking bro
What's the big deal? All he's gotta do is Crack and re-sub under a buddy's name... who gives a shit. All the cards will be in a psa holder in a few months anyway.
at some point you're into the grading fees more than what the card is worth.
What about the Wemby 1/1???
Wow you guys are worst than the news
Imaging looking like a pdf and having the audacity to call someone else that? It would be like implying someone’s got a cult while you try to get your followers worked up with unsubstantiated nonsense.
If PSA decertifies the Wemby 1/1, NOW THAT WOULD BE A STATEMENT!
That would definitely send a shockwave to all the juicers out there
When you brought up restoring the old corvette I immediately understood why this is a problem. Kurt is deceiving people and PSA into thinking his cards are original when he sells them, with the old corvette people know if it has a new paint job or not and that's disclosed to any potential buyers.
Isn’t this PSA’s responsibility to weed this stuff out? If they simply can’t then what are we all truly paying for
Why does he block all the serial numbers of the card he fix, cus he knows that people won’t buy it. And it would probably get flagged by psa.
It's called card doctoring and it should be noted that the card has been doctored.
People that say it’s fine restoring are moron. It’s fine but as long as if it’s noted so people can know the truth of the cards origin. Like a savage car cost less than a normal used car for sale.
This guy talking has never been punched in the face in his entire life.
Imagine crying about other peoples cards 😂😂
These losers don’t have to imagine. They should relisten to this whine fest. Oof cringe af
I think it’s probably going to be the best day, because he’s getting a ton of free publicity from you all. 1000’s of not 10,000 of thousands will learn that there even is card restoration and a few percentage of them will try it. So I expect Kurt’s company to explode. Especially once Geoff comments on it which will be any moment now, if he hasn’t already.
Language gentlemen. Sheeesh!
Sports Card Radio Clips, This is so fun! I'm happy I found your channel!
Kurt's entire collection will be cracked and sent to SGC! LOL
I'm not against card doctoring as long as it's noted, just as many great paintings have been professionally restored, baseball ⚾ cards are works of art and many are in high demand while very few have actually survived in PSA 6 or higher.
Kurt’s an awesome guy, he’s been nothing but helpful anytime I’ve reached out to him for his opinion on cards. I’m sure he was having a rough day.
Another reason to not overpay for any high grade stuff. It's for fools. So much is trimmed or altered in some way.
Kurt doesn't trim or color touch cards.
I clean my cards before sending to PSA, quick microfiber for fingerprints, painter tape on the edges for fuzz, etc. I doubt many people sending to PSA are sending straight from packs to PSA. Kurt's "science" behind fixing issues is interesting but not for me. I guarantee many people trashing Kurt have done more than microfiber clean a card though, they just didn't post any videos doing it.
The use of the word cleaning is better defined as using a foreign substance, liquid or solid to restore a sports card...
You guarantee Kurt's haters have done the same? Believe it or not, before all the covid noobs invaded the hobby, soaking cards in unknown liquid substances was a no-no. So I doubt very much that the haters do the same thing as kurt.
@johnwayne9828 Did I say soaking a card? I said I doubt many send a card straight in without doing at the least microfibering the card. Again. I don't agree with all he does, but I am sure there is some cleaning of some type done by even the haters.
@@MNSportscardJunky "I guarantee theyve done more than wipe with a microfiber cloth" were your exact words. Which definitely left it open for me to interpret it the way I did.
@@johnwayne9828 yet never mention dunking in water. Moving on.
He asked you what your thoughts were. Your response was, "how many cards were decertified from that order?" Then you accuse him of deflecting.
I dunno what would have been better, just returning the cards, or sending em all back slabbed with "authentic / altered" as the grade.
A vintage card was never intended to be issued originally with tape on it. If you can successfully remove that tape, fix a small crease on a corner, wrinkles to make the card as intended originally how is that altering a card? Tape is altering a card from it's original issue, so removing tape is altering? Trimming is altering, painting is altering as that's not how the card was originally produced. If you have an old card, you accidentally left it out at night and a mouse shit on it, wouldn't anybody try to clean that card, that's just a small point.
You hit the nail on the head about generational differences. Its also similar to the steroid discussion--you either have folks that want the purity/integrity of the game or you want homerun contests every single year. Cheers
If you drive off the lot in your new Honda Civic and you get home and find a dent in the quarter panel are you fixing the dent? Is it altering the car? Our is it restoring the car to its original condition?
a honda civic isn't a collectible ... try again.
@SportsCardRadio Absolutely hilarious. This is the analogy you made in your video, man! You said do we need to restore a 2024 Honda Civic? If you find something wrong with it are you fixing it? The analogies made throughout the video have little if anything to do with the subject matter of the video. They literally dont make sense. Thanks for solidifying my point with your comment. Nice try!
😅 it’s actually 100% on PSA lol
I don’t think they deactivated the right cards .why does the before look better than the after.
I get both sides. Restoration is perfectly acceptable in many many other industries and widely accepted to help preserve and maintain value or even increase value of many things. Think about paintings of valuable art. Million dollar art works are cleaned and restored all the time. Doesn’t make it decertified or devalued. PSA needs to get off their high horse here.
Sucks that so many cards 2 days out of a pack need restoration
2024 topps heritage is full of factory blemishes. Polishing the surface is great idea!
Wow is everybody a dork but you
exactly
Yes, a lot of people don't want the juice, but a lot of people on the juice. PSA needs to put out what is ok with "them".
Kurt should also go on your show and say his peace. I'm on the cleaning the card is fine; trimming, coloring I'm not ok with. The one i'm on the fence on is the corner dings restoral. I'm also a comic book collector so most collectors are okay with pressing and cleaning. you wouldn't restore your new honda civic but the dealer does shine and wax them. so you're getting a new car with Juice on it.
I assure you, factory paint is not perfect, it will be full of sand marks and micro marring from the automatic wash. They do not put wax on new cars at a dealership. However, it's a good idea to take care of your paint, since it is the most expensive part of a car. Sorry for the rant, I know what your point is, but just wanted to clarify how the analogy isn't quite correct.
To your point, it's perfectly acceptable to smooth out the clear coat and remove defects with a polisher on a used car to make the paint in better condition than when it was new. As it is perfectly acceptable to apply wax, sealants, coatings, and protective films to a vehicle to preserve exposed surfaces from UV degradation and environmental fallout (bird poop and brake dust).
Anyone can get the cleaning tools and materials doesn't have to be Kurt's The hobby has to be told what to do again. They act like it's over.
damn it, baseball, now even the cards are juiced!
How many Wemby 1/1 are there at this point?
No juice please
"The Face of Fraud"
BRILLIANT!!!
Also brilliant: "It's like doing a boob-job on a 13 year old." 😆
Damm if we all had 10 whats the point of the hobby or even grading.. Cards come imperfect from the factory thats what makes the hobby to find a 10 use to be exciting but if you can make a 10 all the time whats the point now.
Psa will give you 10s all day if you pay the right fee....
Let's Go!
I suspect legally Kurts Card Care is probably right.
It's restoring them he's doing what panini should have done. You buy something new why shouldn't it be perfect?
You guys fail to also mention in Kurt's interview with Jeremy Lee that Kurt mentioned talking to the most respected document and book restorers to perfect his cleaning solution so it didn't damage the cardboard, if I have a May's Rookie that's a 2 and I can make it a 4, why wouldn't I, if you spill coffee on a card while your sorting them do you not try to wipe it off, your a liar if you say no, if you are a purest then you should leave the coffee on it, otherwise your argument is hypocritical
Fastest clip made! 😂
why are these guys still talking about cards... havent they learn everyone hate them
Wow, you boys have no idea what you are talking about. I get that there is a fine line here, but tape on a card that is graded, IS ALTERED as well. And yes, I am older collector and I would have no problem with the cleaning and soaking if it enhances the card. That is just the reality, and you both don’t seem to get that.
I think what Kurt is doing is totally fine. The car analogy is off though. It works if you think about autobody shops. What is there purpose? To restore vehicles that are damaged. If you want to sell your car, would you try to fix it to get more value? Or would you sell it for less, because it's an original Ford Fiesta? There is restoration in about every industry or collection hobby.
Salvaged titles have existed since 1950...
If a car wasn't totaled but needed touch ups - Is that person required to disclose this when selling a vehicle?
The fact that not all modern cards opened from packs are of equal quality is the reason why he does cards care on them. Don't be stupid
That's my thoughts. I'm getting dinged up cards on the majority of decent inserts that would justify a high price for the box. Topps usually is good about replacements but panini is far behind even backing up their signature redemptions. Old cards I personally wouldn't soak but if a few wrinkles can be smoothed out, who cares, more power to the owner. I'm tired of seeing quality go down on greedy price levels. They triple the cost merely if a rookie base is sought after. That ain't right.
Was this about sports card alteration or your views about gender identification? Maybe consider renaming your channel to " Sports Card Trolls". It would be more fitting. Have a great day?
beta comment of the week candidate ...
Psa is a scam. I trust SGC way more
PSA owns SGC
@@SportsCardShow and I still trust sgc more than psa. One person can own 2 car dealerships but have shady people running one and honest people running the other......
Well, here's my question on the matter, and it was mentioned in the video a bit. Kurt isn't trimming and he's not coloring cards, so how is this any different than restoring a classic car or more specifically restoring a piece of fine art?
This stuff happens with multi-million dollar pieces of artwork regularly. Making something very old last longer. As for newer cards, maybe if Panini, etc. had some quality control, I mean come on, you are making it sound like these cards are coming out of the packs mint. The "brand new" cards come out with marks, scratches, dings, dents, etc.
I don't know, I am a vintage collector and using Kurt's Card Care doesn't turn all vintage into PSA 10's. In most cases is just makes the cards have a little better eye appeal. I wouldn't mind buying a card that had been cleaned up a little. Now, Kurt's overall opinion on it, I think he's just being defensive because he's being attacked.
The issue I have with PSA is that PSA is wrong ALL. THE. TIME. about various things. I had a pack pulled card, that I pulled myself from a hobby box many years ago, that they said wasn't authentic, lol. So, I am afraid that PSA minions who make mistakes all the time, are all of a sudden going to start cracking down on people "cleaning" cards and they will just start picking cards at random, lol.
You guys need to seek professional help for how you talk about people. I’m happy to see you have virtually no following for good reason.
...and You need to listen less to influencers that had professional help on how to make people like You fall for their lies and make You think they care about Your opinion...
SCR is one of the few content creators that are FOR REAL...and therefore their content is absolutely important for the future of the hobby.
Do You think Geoff and his buddies are using different levels of "language" when speaking about You (the consumer)??? No way...for them You are just financing their wealth, thats all!
I’m in the Pokémon space and wasn’t familiar with your channel, and I’m not saying I agree with all Kurt’s methods, but your ways of talking about it and people in general is not good.
YOU evaded him after he did the same when he asked why you called him a sexual predator (?!?), and then you went from talking about one person in Kurt to calling a whole generation confused. This just seems like you had a lot of agendas of hate to spread, and in just 8 minutes you manage to do that very effectively. It’s sad, and I know you probably won’t care what I think, but I might as well utilize my free speech and give my 2 cents since you gave yours.
you need a tissue
@@SportsCardRadiopu$$y
Well said. They answered his question with a question and disparaged him. They’re acting like CNN to trump and FOX to Biden. It’s ridiculous. This segment seems purely subjective and opinionated. You don’t have any facts here. Cards were restored to a better condition yes. Everyone is guilty of wiping fingerprints off a card with microfiber. GUILTY!!!! Now you are a fraud for altering. We are all guilty of that. Clean a card to increase value? So what. It looks better. Period. You want a clean Jackie Robinson or one with tape on it? Clean all day. You’re freaking crazy!!!
To me, it sounds like a fine line that Kurts Card Care is walking. I personally think its great to try and restore and older card in anyway that doesnt alter the original artwork. If the ink that was used 60-80 years ago has faded and theres ways to improve the card quality without "adding more ink" but restoring original ink, then im for that. Whether Kurts process does that, im not sure i dont know what he uses but i do think that selling people on "juicing" their newly opened or undamaged cards in the juice is not right.
Restoring antiques is the same process, theres ways to do it right and theres ways to do it wrong. You wouldnt restore a lamp that was bought 2-3 years ago without some outlier reason
As long as they state what they did. I wouldn’t touch an altered or restored card with a ten foot pole.
@@bryankahtava3773 You wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Bunch of babies 😂
Vintage cards are going to show signs of age. That’s part of history. Keep your Kurt’s card spunk off them please
Kirk . Keep fighting that case
No different than cleaning up a coin...
cleaning coins severely devalues the coin.
PSA should invest in technology to detect manipulated cards by fraudsters who use Kurt’s juice.
Well his juice is pretty much Distilled Water and witch hazel. So good luck with that. And the witch hazel is just there to give it a smell. You can do the same restoration with distilled water and get the exact same results.
whoever owns that card made the choice to let him do it. Not your cards so stop crying
Let’s be real, who cares…
So PSA decertified it.... Cool he can sub the card again..... Probably even through his account if he wants.
then he's into a $1000 card for $1200 in cost. wow.
@@SportsCardRadio unless he got a discount on condition because he knows he could bump it up.
Yeah, this card doesn't get submitted under the economy or value scale. You'll have to go up to express and that is $75. I had to do express plus once because i estimated my card to be worth $3000, paid $150 plus shipping and they claimed my card was trimmed. I was like WTF, lost the money and still pissed a year later. So i have no sympathy for people who alters cards and get away with it. I never altered or trimmed my card, but PSA claimed it was. It was a 1968 topps card.
I take the wax off the fronts of all cards, using a cotton make-pad. Why let the wax effect another card, if you just store them in 100-800 count boxes. It sounds like you don't have a clue about collecting. Oh you could make every card look like a ten. How smart is that statement. If people want to clean the smeng off their cards from some greasy fingered no mind, that they have purchased the card or cards from, let them. As for people who soak cards in solutions to take away the grit and tobacco smoke from 20 - 100 years, then pass them off, as something they are not, that is a problem. I am not a fan of grading companies, if your card is worth $10,000 then we up charge our service from $20 to $1000. Can't tell me they spend a week or two going over a 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth. No it is just a money grab. Most companies don't even let you know why your cards got the grades they did. Sounds like you really don't know who the scammers are! Are related to Moscow Marg? As to the comment on a trans gender becoming president. They thought a person of color, would never be President or Vice President. There are many LGBTQ in the house of representatives. From some of your statements, it sounds like you would never have liked this day to come. Guess what! THERE HERE! You definitely let your true colors shine through.
Hey guys Do you know that they restore Art and Van Gogh and Rembrandt Art are restored. Too bring back there beauty. I love too get creases out and tape off and bring it back too look like it did when I opened it in 1964. So I disagreed with you guys. I think you guys are over reacting. PSA in my opinion are not the most up and up company anyway. So I’m older and consider baseball cards my Art
hey dork - do you know that they disclose the restoration of the Van Gogh so buyers know it's been restored. I bet you don't tell PSA or a buyer you soaked your cards. SCRUB