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- After the shocking conclusion of the last episode, this one goes in a direction nobody expected. A Vampire Chronicles expert’s breakdown of episode 6 of AMC’s Anne Rice’s Interview with the Vampire TV series and how it was adapted from the books.
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Sam Reid said in an interview that because Lestat turned Louis out of love it likely played a part in making their vampire bond that much stronger. Since he wasn’t that happy about turning Claudia in the first place it kinda explains why Claudia and Lestat don’t have the same bond.
Wow, very valid point.
The crack in that theory is that, in canon, Lestat turns his first love, Nikki... that does NOT end well at all as far as the strength of their bond. Of course, the show may be going in another direction where your theory bears weight. It'll be interesting to see if this pattern emerges with other vampiric conversations.
Love your reviews as always, especially when we disagree. I was surprised that you thought the show was asking us to take Louis’s “vampire bond” seriously. I thought we were to understand it’s clearly nonsense Louis thought up to explain his continued love for Lestat despite the horrendous things he’d done. Because, as you said, Claudia is right there and is Exhibit ABCDE&F for there being no such bond. Heck, even Bruce is an example of there being no such bond as it looks like he ditched his maker at the first opportunity.
Though it’s nonsense, I’m still sympathetic that Louis has to rationalize his love for Lestat (love’s not like a light switch). In some ways, I think it applies to the audience’s desire to find a Loustat future in the mess.
Totally agreed
One thing that's important to keep in mind is that Louis is a character fully capable of lying, and his saying that there's an unbreakable bond between certain vampires can easily be a lie to try and cover up his embarrassment over returning to and still loving an abuser.
I think that just because we the viewers get to see certain scenes, doesn't necessarily mean that Louis narrated those specifics to Daniel. That first time together could've also just been dismissed by Louis as him being in the moment, feeling "high" maybe?💁🏻♀️
Nice point.
True. Louis also describe that part as the craziest high ever felt. We don't know as viewers what we are seeing is what really happened or it's just from his crazy high. There is also a drastic difference between levitating a couple feet off the ground vs being jetted thousands of ft into the sky like a rocket ship. 😂
That’s how I took it too.
Admire your passion and attention to detail, Queen Maven but this was my favorite episode. I don't think Leslat's confession scene and his final chess game with Claudia would have had the same emotional weight without episode 5. Super ready for the final ! Let's go !!!!
@@friendofmaglor Exactly. For this version of Claudia and Louis, episide 5 needed to happen for Claudia to mature and for Louis to agree to do what they will do in episide 7. For this version of the story, episode 5 makes total sense.
Lestat's behaviour in this episode is not uncommon AT ALL in domestic violence cases - it's part of the cycle of violence; where the violent act occurs, then contrition/love bombing, followed by a period of calm/peace before things start to get tense/escalate again until they explode. Given they're vampires and presumably have forever to perpetuate this cycle, of course the particular portions of the cycle can go for years. There's a really great book by Jess Hill called "See What You Made Me Do" which discusses power, control & the role they play in this cycle of abuse.
Edit: I do grant that the "Lestat is a domestic abuser" story is going way off script from the books - there's "brat prince" and there's "full on abusive, manipulative and controlling" and the show Lestat crossed that second line long ago - but the depiction isn't inaccurate and given how beautifully shot (even on a relatively small budget) the show is I like to give them the benefit of the doubt that they've plotted the idea of how it can play in to later seasons/tie-ins.
YES thank you!! People ain't getting it !!
Nobody asked for a DV analysis
regarding the flying thing on lestats part, floating a centimeter is different to flying above the clouds. so it makes sense for both loui and daniel to be shocked that he went from floating a centimeter to flying so high he could be superman.
Lestat legit took Louis into the damn stratosphere! 😂
now I’m picturing lestat in a Superman getup 😂
After watching the Claudia episode where the tone and perspective changed so radically I’ve become convinced unreliable narration will be a major feature of this retelling, much more so than the books. Louis’s new narrative wants to show “the truth”, but they’ve given us many clues that he’s biased, not necessarily always consciously so, certainly in denial about some parts, and he’s even not above censoring certain parts, which could mean his agenda isn’t as pure as he claims. This presents us a version of Lestat that’s quite different from the spirit in which Louis told the tale in Interview, but I wager this isn’t much more reliable. But how much more reliable is Lestat’s version? My feeling is that the series will never (or at least for a long while) have an objective perspective. I rather expect that starting in s2 they will add a third and maybe even a fourth narrative voice (Armand’s, and Lestat’s). Claudia’s diaries will tell us one version, Louis’s interview another-both of them will be contrasted by Armand’s own narrative/opinions, and finally Lestat will start giving us his own perspective on Armand and Louis, possibly even in parallel to the Louis/Claudia narrative. At least it’s what I expect for s2: they will start integrating The Vampire Lestat flashbacks, so both Louis’s tale and Lestat’s lead together to the Queen of the Damned story.
We are *so* getting Vampire Lestat flashbacks, and his POV, in S2. And yes, Louis is still not 100% a reliable narrator. Even now. There is a reason the majority of that fight was told from Claudia's POV. (Except for the moment Louis and Lestat were in the air.)
Louis isn't trying to correct a record with this new interview. Because the first interview was never published. Daniel himself didn't even remember what was said in that interview. There's is nothing out there *to* correct.
The show was hinting at agendas and what will happen when the story is "out there" in EP5. I don't think that was them just being meta.
The show IMO, knows the audience will take Louis's side in this telling because his is the major POV right now, just like everyone did when reading the first book. Even after warning us that he's not 100% reliable and has his own agenda. But the show is clearly going to be playing with the Rashomon storytelling technique and will probably do that even more so in S2.
@@cbrownjc7633 we see that much the same way. The most blatant (and almost meta) clue they’ve given to the audience is that when Daniel challenged Louis’ reminiscence of his night in the Bayou and the muddy shoes, they showed us a second version of the scene. That was a not very subtle indication that what we see on screen is always Louis’ “head movie” as he remembers it, or….wishes to tell it. Nothing is objective about it. Episode 4 then pushed things further by showing either Claudia’s vision or possibly Daniel’s interpretation of Claudia’s writing.
Doing the origins of Lestat in parallel to the second half of Louis’s story would make the most sense to me, as it involves many of the same locations and people and this is when they’ll be able to really play on different perspectives. It also keeps all five main characters present all season. I’ve got to say I’m hoping to be right about this as it would really be fantastic to watch-I love unreliable narrators.
@@dominicaudy8479 I was all in on the show when I got, via that rain scene, that the show was doing Rashomon with Vampires. Apparently, the entire writing staff for the show are all playwrights. Playing around with POV and perspective is something that is done in theater all the time.
And I 100% agree that doing the backstory parts of The Vampire Lestat in S2 would be the perfect way to keep him an active character until his story, along with Louis and Claudia's, converge in Paris. It's what I'm hoping for. Because it would mean for sure Lestat's POV, which the actor Sam Reid has been hinting at. I also have predictions for "Rashid" and Daniel's POV too, but I want to see EP7 before I fully make them. But if Rashid is who I think he is, we are for sure going to get his POV too, along with more of Daniel's. (Because, IMO, the 2022 scenes are all from Daniel's POV.)
@@cbrownjc7633 I didn’t know many of the writers had a theatre background, but it makes a lot of sense. I’m also pretty convinced of who Rashid is, and that explains in turn the whole Dubai setting that is infinitely more in line with the aesthete tastes of that character than with Louis’. Again I have a bias there as I think that considering they need an adult rather than a teenager to play the part their casting is perfect for him. I also wants him to be that character, because if he is it’s an another sign of just how clever the writers are to have contrived a way to not only introduce him right away, but started developing an interesting relationship with Daniel.
The train conductor bit was an amazing bit of camp. I can totally see book Lestat doing something like that to fuck with someone.
Exactly! Lestat would totally do that.
I took the floating in episode 1, and in the movie version, as a metaphor for the feeling of the moment, not as being literal "and then we floated up as he drank my blood." I'd guess a large number of other people did as well.
I didn’t take the float as metaphor. Rather, I just thought there was a *huge* difference between Lestat being able to levitate a bit to *up in the clouds* flying.
honestly i dont think that the 'vampire bond' is actually a thing, just a justification that louis gave to daniel so he can explain why he keeps coming back - and maybe he even thinks that its real to some extent.
the show, for me, is pretty explicitly showing that louis is a unreliable narrator
That coffin toss had me laughing hard
I love the little bits of humor sprinkled in here and there even in these dark episodes. The bit with the doctor had me chuckling too.
I mean... we never really panned around the street[ or anything] to see if anyone noticed that or not. Maybe the coffin toss is actually _why_ they're hexing them, later on. ? 😅🤭🤭
@@_notmyproblem_ Me too!
I love the level of Shade Claudia is throwing. Girl cast so much Shade, she'd be clan Lasombra. She throws so much Shade, the vampire population could use it to escape the sun
THIS made me laugh!!!! Happy shadow play, my friend!
I really disagree with the idea that the show is telling the audience what to think. It gives us several perspectives to the events: Louis in the past, Louis in the present, Claudia and of course the nominally detached Daniel. None of these perspectives is the definitive one, they're all possible interpretations and the show is inviting us, the audience, to pick the one that we find most compelling.
And nobody is taking into account they've heard nothing from lestat.
Late to the watch party but I agree.
While I dont agree that this is the best episode yet, I will say that this portrayal of Claudia is absolute fire. And as to Rashid, I think in order to keep that side of the story interesting there has to be a mystery there. I dont mind this. I have read and reread The Vampire Chronicles and the Mayfair Witches like an addict with a bad habit, I am perfectly satisfied with hints and nods to the source material rather than listening to Louis or Lestat take up 30minutes describing every minute detail of an armoir. I will say that if these intentions to let us believe that Louis is telling the absolute truth this time, I too remain unconvinced. But personally its the thrill of watching something unencumbered by specific expectation.
I've been shrieking on tumblr - unreliable narration. I don't think Daniel is telling us that this is the true story but reminding us that Louis and Claudia are unreliable, not necessarily lying but the story had changed since the first narration and even that was years after the fact and Claudia has every reason to see the very worst of Lestat. She knew that they had read her diary once so why not again, Claudia's Lestat is more violent and cruel, because she sees him as that, where Louis' hates himself to such a degree [even before he's turned he blames himself for everything] that he thinks he deserves what happens. I'm surprised that Lestat didn't throw Louis from the roof in an echo of Paul's suicide to rub it in because Louis blames himself for that, and if Lestat had done it [which a small part of Louis hopes he did] then it wasn't him, it was his choices - either way Louis is to blame.
Daniel is crying bullshit because it is bullshit and goes quiet so Louis will continue the story but when we see Daniel he has a full bullshit face but isn't pushing.
I think if we got Lestat's pov we'd see a different story, like how they fought and louis fell but over 100 years the story got twisted.
Lestat's story would be just as unreliable - all first person narratives are, but tv usually shows third person, the camera is neutral but not when the original story is first person.
The train scene is Claudia’s POV; Louis isn’t there to see it. He has to rely on the diary or Claudia’s words.
My guess was she told him all about it later on. Based on the dates in her diaries, they spend 5 years wandering around eastern Europe before they go to Paris, plenty of time for her to tell him and for them to talk about it in depth. And since he can read her mind, he can have a much deeper understanding about how it all made her feel.
I’m sure a let of what we seeing might be exaggerated or not true especially those from the diary or those we can assume was told to Louis by Claudia
@@MavenoftheEventide Lestat could have shared his side of the story with Louis too. I didn't think Lestat was hiding that he brought Claudia back from the train. More like he was being sarcastic about her return. He wanted them to know he was following their every move even though he can't read their minds.
I think the timeline has got so many book fans messed up in understanding the show because they think the books are all going to happen in order, just pushed back. When, IMO, that is clearly not what is going on. Is that an impression the showrunners gave before the show aired? I didn't pay much attention to anything that was said pre the show airing. Just knowing they were adapting all the books in this version. So it isn't that the timeline of everything has been pushed back; it's that it's completely altered and mixed up into ONE cohesive story.
For example. Louis isn't telling this story because he "wants to get it right this time." He's telling it because he wants to warn humanity about vampires AND because it's a suicide note. And when, in the books, did Louis actively try to kill himself and leave a suicide note? That's right, in the book Merrick. The 2022 scenes are clearly an adaptation of Merrick IMO, mixed in with some IWTV elements. And all the rest of the books are going to be jumbled up into the show as well. IMO, the Prince Lestat's storyline is going to happen in S3, and it'll be mixed in with Queen of the Damned elements too.
I think many book readers were looking for an adaptation of each individual book to be happening, and that isn't what's going on here. What they've done is taken all of the books and restructured them into one overarching story. Some of the questions and threads the show did earlier and put out in this episode will not be answered until S2, maybe even S3.
Rolin Jones (the creator of the series) did say something along the lines of this in the behind the scenes video. You are correct!
@@_notmyproblem_ Thank you! Glad that my feeling on this is correct. And I'm going to make a prediction that will test if my Merrick conclusion of the 2022 scenes is correct:
EP7 will reveal that Lestat is asleep in the Dubai penthouse somewhere. Why? Because being asleep - in a coma, basically - is what Lestat was doing in Merrick. With Louis watching over him. And while the book is a warning to humanity, it is also a suicide note for Lestat. The book is Louis saying everything he couldn't say to Lestat back when they were first together. The good *and* the bad.
None of this interview was ever about correcting a record. Because the first record was never published in the first place. You can't correct something that was never out there to begin with.
This whole interview is still personal. A bigger message he wants to leave for humanity as a warning, yes. But also a personal message to Lestat that he doesn't know when, if ever, will wake up.
I think so too.
Thank you!!! This is 100% the case. I don’t know why it’s so hard for “them” to get and digest that. Watch the show as it is and either enjoy it, or not. Whether or not it’s exactly like the books should not be the goal.
there are many views around. But I came across quite some book fans picking up on that. Even when the trailer aired - I was like - oh that is not IWTV but later books...
That's interesting that you think that Daniel wasn't into Louis. It seemed obvious to me, like what was that whole line about 'well if something happens it happens'...I don't think that was about drugs
@@friendofmaglor yeah, the actual quote makes it even more obvious that present Daniel is in denial for some reason. My interpretation of that scene was that he wanted to have sex with Louis but he also wanted Louis to know that he was serious about the interview thing as well and this wasn't just a quirky pick up line.
I immediately read it like that as well.
Yeah, I don't get why she thinks Daniel has been straight-washed. That bar scene basically confirmed he is, at the very least, bisexual. Him saying, "if anything happens, I'm cool," gave it away IMO. And that, in the present, he's just in denial/in the closet still in some way. He wanted to interview Louis, yes, but was also attracted to him.
@@chargi717 My reason that Daniel is in denial in the present is that he doesn't have all his memories. They were altered. That is why he couldn't remember the 1973 interview. That is also why the show had the first interview stopped before Daniel heard anything about Armand. Because yes, I do think Rashid is Armand, and if Daniel had heard talk of Armand before even going to Dubai on that tape, memories like the one he had at the end of the episode would have come flooding back to him before he even left for Dubai.
Because yes, I think The Devil's Minion happened. In a slightly altered form, but it happened. Because if you pay attention, Daniel makes it clear he was still on drugs back in 1978. Five years *after* his first failed interview with Louis.
The failed 1973 interview and almost dying because Louis attacked him *didn't* act as a wake-up call to Daniel. Not if, in his own words, he was high on Mexican Black Tar that Carly and Pedro were slinging in 1978.
But I don't think heroin was the only thing he was on back then.
Memory-altering is a thing from the books btw. It happened to Jesse. She started getting her memory back just by reading Lestat's book and hearing his music.
On Tumblr, I called the final scene of the episode having the reveal that Rashid was there in 1973 at the gay bar when I heard we'd be getting a flashback to that meeting in EP6. So I'm going to try my luck and try and call this too: Daniel's memories were altered, and Rashid is the one who did it. Because Rashid is Armand. And, for whatever reason, he let Daniel go after they went through some version of the Devil's Minion story. Which we'll see in full in S2.
Saammeee!!!
That was exactly how I took that bit in the bar flashback scene too.
Are we sure the “vampire bond” never existed in the books? When dumping Lestat in the swamp, a passage from Louis’s POV reads,
“I felt a pull suddenly, as if some force were urging me to go down with him, to descend into the dark water and never come back. It was so distinct and so strong that it made the articulation of voices seem only a murmur by comparison. It spoke without language, saying, “you know what you must do. Come down into the darkness. Let it all go away.”
Then again, that might just be Louis’s depression in general.
I thought it was guilt. As well as his depression. He also said something to the account of them not being much different than him and being deserving of the same.
@@corpeter Yeah, I remember that as well. It’s too bad that a vampire bond was never named in the books, but I like to think it exists.
In TVL, Lestat describes feeling immediate love for Magnus, then missing him desperately once he's gone. After Marius is burned by the Satanic cult, Armand dreams of Marius calling to him from his hiding place for months or years but ignores it. Maybe the bond is only clearly felt when at least one of the vampires is very strong or talented with the Mind Gift, just like some humans are more self-aware than others.
Like Armand says “but you asked the wrong questions”
I loved this episode but to each their own. I think the Paul thing only came up now cus we witnessed firsthand how heartless and brutal Lestat could be last episode. Louis probably always did have it in the back of his mind but didn’t ever want to think Lestat would be capable of it but after Lestat brutalized him so bad he realized that Lestat is capable of anything really and so it surely took root in his mind over the time Lestat was gone so when he saw the opportunity to finally ask him and took it.
I really enjoyed this episode as well. I think the whole audience kept questioning Paul's death in the back of our mind's the whole time since episode 1. I sure did. I knew it was going to get circled back on. This was also the one time to get the truth out of Lestat, what other time would he have gotten to ask the question?
@@_notmyproblem_ I agree I liked how they brought it up too cus it was also something we were thinking about but weren’t sure if we should worry about either. I think it was good to put that to rest and showed his sincerity in that moment and in that scene where he tells the story of his maker which all came of very genuine to me because he seemed so sincere about Paul (and because we know from the books that the story he tells is true and is canon)
And also how Lestat brutalized him. Draining him like he already knew he did to Lilly and then falling just like Paul did. Maybe he thought of Paul even as he fell.
@@Mashoulan In the weekly podcast, the writer for that episode said Louis falling was a parallel to Paul falling.
The gloves really came off, there, too-so I think Louis was now holding his questions back for fear of upsetting Lestat or the delicate peace/balance between them like he always did before a whole lot less than he was before too.
I don't remember Louis insisting he wasn't abused in this episode, simply asking Daniel if it is impossible for people to be better themselves than their worst moments and/or ever genuinely be forgiven after they've done something horrible even just once. (I mean.. if it was totally okay and not abusive or wrong, then what is there to forgive? Plus, I was getting the impression that Louis was thinking about some horrible things that Louis has done which Louis considers comparably atrocious, maybe??🤔🤔🙃😁)
Like, I took it more as him deflecting and being evasive-because it's not really defensible, but he really doesn't want to dive into that debate[ of whether it is or isn't defensible at all] he just wants to get through his story from start to finish.
Obviously, it's time for yet another rewatch, for me!!! ((I've seen all six episodes at least twice, and most of them like four or five times by now; I'm starting to lose exact count! . 🤭Loll)) _I think the episodes may be starting to blend together a little in my mind, considering I keep binge-watching them all in a row at least half the time, too._ 😶 🙃😅🤣🤣🤣
OMG same...same about the re-watching 🙃 I have to say I caught that bit as well about Louis alluding to doing something just as bad!
@@_notmyproblem_ Like, a whole 'ye who is without sin, cast the first stone' type situation, maybe? 😅😅 (like-He's not saying Lestat didn't do bad things, he's just refusing to personally judge Lestat for it anymore, because Louis has also done bad things before too..which Louis also maybe doesn't want to be forever condemned for either. ?) I dunno!!
At least it wasn't just me who thought that Louis was[ or could-be] hinting at that, there! ^ ^ 🤍
:D love your reviews, but I have a disagreement. I think that most times Daniel and Louis have these little back and forth about Lestat being abusive, it is Daniel rather than Louis who is right. Or at least Daniel isn't wrong and Louis is trying to deflect by bringing up the good Lestat presents to draw Louis back in.
I wonder if, overall, the vampire in this is story represents abuse in its various forms. Lestat may be an abusive relationship, Louis may be self abuse, Claudia may be the toxic lashing out brought on by parental abuse and neglect.
Also, in regards to Lestat as mastermind: I think Lestat in this story is a braggart, and impulsively passionate but also opportunisticly controlling and manipulative. He might be alright at chess, but I take his words mostly as empty bragging and gloating over and opponent he has neglected to teach well intentionally so he can just always win. He strives for the trappings of being some mastermind but he's just making it up as he goes along. He just wants to feel like he is in control.
Yesss exactly! He’s like a narcissist, but doesn’t know everyone around him can tell he’s a narcissist 😂😂😂 Especially your family
Everyone arguing in the comments and I'm just here chilling waiting for the finale to be posted online. 😂
bc youre a monster. _JC
@@JCResDoc94 Umm okay! 😂
YESSS
I love this show, it is one of my favorite shows. The acting is superb and this episode made me love this show even more.
Same! I can’t wait to see more!
Hi, I'm from the future where episode 7 exists... now now, don't worry I will say nothing at all other than despite it's problems I really enjoy this AMC series so far, and I simply can't wait for you to talk about it!
It’s like I’m existing in this weird space where I can’t help but love this show even if I don’t love every choice the writers have made. That finale tho, I loved it so much I bawled my eyes out.😂
i 100% took louis' answer about lestat wanting him to feel equal *as* him saying it was manipulation. and i don't think the show is trying at all to make us feel daniel is being unreasonable. i think the whole reason they added the fight was to do the opposite of that, and to further justify claudia and louis attempted murder of lestat. also the scene of lestat and claudia on the train. i think it's also because of aging claudia up, since she could realistically be independent now, as we saw, whereas book claudia couldn't simply because of how "young" she was, and all the problems that come with that. so now we see that killing him is the only way to get away, since twice now he's physically stopped them from leaving.
you're 100% supposed to see him as an abuser. and daniel not arguing his point for the entire episode doesn't mean he now agrees that lestat deserves forgiveness. he pushed back, louis pushed back, and now he's just letting louis continue to tell his story. and louis is equally entitled to how he feels because they aren't even human. all these lines are more blurred for the vampires. i mean, eating eachother's blood is sex (or just part of it here). still, lestat's actions are wrong and are definitely meant to be seen that way, but they do also all murder and eat people (louis on and off of course), which is arguably far worse than beating up an immortal with a supernatural healing factor. and similarly, lestat will forgive louis for plotting his murder, slitting his throat, setting him on fire, and feeding him to an alligator lmao. applies to the books too, for example louis and claudia being "lovers" in a sense. even though it isn't sexual, it's still twisted. but they're companions in immortality; father, mother, daughter, friends, lovers, brother, sister. it isn't comparable to a human relationship, and neither is lestat and louis', like he says, especially taking in the bond between a sire and their fledgeling. it makes sense to me louis would view it differently than we do, and we don't have to see things the same way as any of them do.
Great to hear you had so much fun at your Lestat ball
This episode was quite strong and has me begging for the next episode
Lestat floating down like he's fuckin Sephiroth....all that is missing is a sword
Yooooo 🤣🤣🤣 i was thinking the same thing
lestat acting confident after beating up louis and soon after saying he feels so sorry and ashamed for it doesn’t seem like a plothole to me. it’s a common way for abusers to act, ive experienced it myself. switching up his mood like that is just a way to manipulate claudia and louis’s emotions to try to prevent them coming for revenge
Easter egg for the sharp-eyed: when Daniel was dreaming, the split second part where it's segueing into the bar scene, it's a clip from the IwtV movie at the beginning where it's zeroing at the beginning of the movie right before they transition to the people on the street shot. Aka it's a helicopter filming from mid height from the bay and into that main street. I'm not really sure they took it from the original film or if they reshot it today, but the angle and height was pitch perfect from the beginning of the movie.
yes I recognised that as well
I'm now understanding that a lot of book fans are actually just engaging with this show in bad faith. I thought it was pretty obvious that Louis' character is one that internalizes most things and constantly lies to and deny himself. He withdraws emotionally and is a master of repression. Why wouldn't he call it a "vampire bond" when he is in deep denial about the fact that he has always known what kind of person Lestat was and still loved him? Why wouldn't he keep his Paul suspicion to himself for two decades when the answer wouldn't have changed him being with Lestat? After all, he knew Lestat killed Lily and watched him murder his family priest right in front of him and still said yes to his confession and proposition. Louis is just as twisted as Lestat. And he loves Lestat just the way he is. Louis is just self loathing and hates that he loves the very vampiric Lestat.
It's like they forget who executively produced the show. Reminds me of so-called "fans" of The Sandman who couldn't handle that some changes were made...by the author of the original.
Yes. Fans of the show are not holding Louis to ANY accountability in the show. I don't get it. Lestat never held a 🔫 to Louis' head. If anything (in the tv 📺 series) he actually warns ⚠️ Louis against doing unwise things, i.e., "turning" Claudia even though she's too young & cuz he knows Louis just wants to use her as a band-aid for their relationships; and how it wouldn't be smart for Louis to try to acquire the Fairplay brothel given mixing vampire business & mortal business is not wise --- YET, Louis --- JUST LIKE LESTAT --- does exactly what he wants anyway 🤦🏾♂️.
I'm a book fan and I love the show!
Idk it’s working for me and tons of other book readers….I get if you don’t enjoy the changes but it’s not the same by design and I feel like it’s being done very well
Right. She wants the book but this is an intepretation, not a copy.
Me too!
I think the problem is more along the lines of the show doesn’t follow the spirit of the book even though they promise profusely and often that they where going too
I disagree with your interpretation of the framing of Lestat by the writers through Daniel and Louis' conversation. From my perspective, Daniel is our audience stand in. Like us, he questions Louis' telling of the story. He asks the questions we would want to ask if we are critical watchers. That's the writers explicitly calling out that the relationship was abusive and and flagging it for audience members who need to have that said to them and not just shown to them. When Daniel gives up on questioning Louis, it's because he's not getting anywhere with Louis, so the only thing they can do is move forward (or stop the interview which isn't an option in a series titled Interview with the Vampire). *They also spend a significant amount of time focusing the camera on Louis' serious injuries as he describes the impact of this traumatic event. The writers are clearly framing the relationship as toxic and abusive.
For those saying that Lestat would never do that to Luis...um...he maybe wouldn't beat Luis, but there were abusive undertone throughout the books. This is not coming entirely out of left field. (I mean, Lestat commits rape in the books!) Also, wanted to point out that the fight is shown through Claudia's point of view for a lot of it. So, it's possible that her interpretation of the fight was more profound then it maybe really was. Also, just like in Interview with the Vampire the book, the show is SHOWING that Luis is not entirely a perfect or reliable narrator.
Thank you so much for this! I think the TV show is fine as its own entity, but, as a bigger fan of the books, I really enjoy following your careful analysis of how the new show compares to the source material. Honestly, I enjoy hearing your breakdowns more than I enjoy watching the show itself, perhaps because your videos serve as a wonderful recap of the entire book series & mythology, and you helpfully fill in many of the details from the books that I've forgotten over the years. I look forward to seeing your breakdowns of Season Two (assuming it gets finished)! Again, THANK YOU!
You’re forgetting this is still only Louis side of the story, no matter how much Louis is saying he wants to be fairer to Lestat it doesn’t make it the true events…
I have a feeling that when we hear Lestat’s side of the story it’s going to be very different.😂
Also Claudia’s diary.
I love this channel a lot, but I disagree with a lot of the critiques laid out in this video. Mainly the idea that the show wants us to view the events as Louis is telling them now as fact. Repeatedly the reliability of Louis as a narrator has been explicitly questioned by the show. And with the reveal at the end of episode 7, I think it's safe to say that the show is leaving open a lot of room for Lestat to come in (maybe in Season 3 or so) and give his version of events.
They've already said this is the Vampire Chronicles. There will only be 2 seasons of Interview, don't forget Louis is Prince of the Vampires while Lestat is King in the last 2 books
Yeah, I've been following this channel for years, and I am very disapointed in Mavens takes on this series. They seem really shallow and disingenuous. I couldn't finish watching this video, which is a shame.
@@WolverinesvsTheWorld Louis is prince of one small dusty shack.
You took the words out of my mouth.
This is actually the first show about vampires that I've actually liked.
Same! It feels so different (in a good way) from the normal vampire media we have see over the years and I’m enjoy every minute and I hope we get a lot of seasons!
'What We Do In The Shadows" though??
@@yovampirehusband totally didn't cross my mind since it's comedy but you're right. Great show. Nadjas hot.
There is alot of Abuse in the Alphabet community that goes unreported because it's same sex but this happens alot. I'm glad they didn't shy away from the truth of it.
Same!
Daniel's line in the tapes. "You don't even know the meaning of your own story. "
Louis's line. " Let the tale seduce you as I was seduced."
Louis told Daniel he was being hunted but actually he was being seduced.
These actor's are acting their tails off. Who ever did the casting for this found lightning in a bottle. I know the books just like I knew the Titanic was going to sink. But story/movie was amazing.
I love the cast diversity, the humor, and the realness and costumes of the times, and the whole production. Set design should be nominated as well.... And of course Daniel being a grumpy older man.
I hope they do not follow the books to much. Claudia's character is much more fascinating to me. The fact that they made her around 14 helps. I want to see her full character arc. Death to her character would be a cop out and lazy writing. Sam Ried is playing LeStat award worthy as are Jacob and Bailey with Louis and Claudia. The way Jacob is playing Louis is fresh, delicateand and non predictable.
This season is remarkable. Love it!!!. ❤️
I mean ....at zero actual point did Lestat ever say that he crippled Louis so that Louis would be forced to stay with him, unless I'm just really really forgetting something here? And he could have been thinking literally anything behind that chin-up, straight-face and heavy breathing-including "....what have I done!??" &/or "don't give them the satisfaction of letting them _see_ how distraught or horrified or worried you are".
I could absolutely see Lestat, after standing over them looking on at them like that, simply just turning around and walking away without a word as if he didn't even care. Louis does say that it wasn't until *_later on_* that Lestat would confess/claim to them that Lestat had left out of guilt and shame and remorse or whatever, after all. Maybe, initially, it just seemed he had left simply because he was done with them and 'letting Louis go' exactly as Louis had asked Lestat to exactly as Lestat had done when he dropped Louis in the first place?
((Not to mention, you know, the fact that Lestat could literally have been lying later on about feeling remorse and just saying what Louis needed/wanted to hear in order for Lestat to win Louis back too.
It all depends on how sympathetically, or how unsympathetically, you want to see it.))
So - i believe claudias narrative far more than Luis's for a few reasons. His blinding love for lestat, even in her pov, shows his unreliability. To the truth, and to claudia. In this series, we have armand, a mind manipulator and abuser far worse than book lestate. Why, if Armand is the "love of his life", would luis only be discussing Lestat..again..
Man these reviews are pretty entertaining but terrible in critical thinking. Bad faith to assume the interviews aren't biased despite Daniel consistently calling it out
Nice to hear the comparison to the books but feels like I'm watching a different show
Lestat comes off as very abusive narcissist, which tracks with the book lestat using Claudia to keep Louis with him. Just bc it's more obvious in the show, doesn't make it bad faith for an adaptation.
And obv Antoinette was a foil for his relationship Louis. Despite using (probably) Antoinette for companionship and how much easier that relationship is as a hetero one (and her not questioning and fighting lestat's higher status/power in the relationship unlike Louis) he was still unhappy bc at the heart of it, he wants Louis despite how difficult the man and the relationship is. In that, I think the show portrays queer relationships much more complex than having Antoine
Anne Rice confirmed that Paul committed suicide by his own choice and Lestat has nothing to do with it.
She didn’t confirm it was suicide, just that Lestat had nothing to do with it. Why exactly he fell down the stairs is still a mystery.
Hmmm I kinda am grateful I never read the books because it feels like it will get in the way of enjoying the show, which on it's own is some of the best TV ever produced. Like I cant sing its praises enough and I hate vampire dramas. It's even surpassed my number one series this year severance. I hope they all get Emmys for their work.
I started reading the first book after watching the third episode and I have to say I’m glad I did too. I think it’s allowed me to appreciate that this is as it’s own work and not needing to make constant comparisons to the books. I get the super fans of Anne Rice’s books would like certain things to appear in this series but it’s a little grating sometimes. Especially when some ppl just want to appreciate the show and all we hear is “that’s not how it happens in the books” 😖. Acknowledging the differences is fine but, having an air of superiority because you were first and being dismissive of show watchers/new fans is another. Either take in what this is or maybe just move on 😅🤷🏾♂️
@@friendofmaglor this! all of this! The direction they’re going with the show has me hooked and i definitely agree that the show has made Louis a more interesting and dynamic character. In some ways I think the show feels grounded in some ways the book doesn’t if that makes sense 😅. I understand the dissatisfaction some ppl have with the characterization of Lestat and other elements but by doing that I feel like they’re going to be setting themselves for disappointment each and every time.
@@friendofmaglor right, I am fine with fans of the books making comparisons which only seems natural. It’s just holding it over ppl’s head is a huge turn off for me. Especially when it comes to cheap or off hand comments about the writers and showrunner “ruining” Anne Rice’s work which I find completely inaccurate and somewhat disrespectful. I love what they’ve done with these characters thus far and for the shows’s narrative I find it makes sense. It makes the characters 3 dimensional and multifaceted from the book version. I just would hope fans of the book come to accept that this current version of characters isn’t going to be one-to-one and learn to accept the show being it’s own work will enjoy it as new fans have. That’s why they’re called adaptations in the first place, they’re new and have differences. Where is the fun of watching something and knowing exactly how it happens.
@@friendofmaglor I do like the show to an extend and I follow the storyline and try to look at it on its own. But as a book fan it is hard to look at it as it is own - for 2 reasons as stated by Maven. First of all - all the easter eggs thrown in kinda randomly so you do wonder how it does relate back to the books, why they chose this quote for what reason (other than easter egg) in the book storyline and it makes it nearly impossible to see it as a separate and it keeps you wondering why the show chose to depict it this way and where they want to go from there while still referencing the books and going off the book at the same time. It is what Maven means with things getting muddled - at least this is how I understood her.
And secondly it is the showrunners themselves - as Maven clearly said over and over, emphazising how they honor the books, adapt the books closer than the movie or anything before, how they apretiate the book fandom and put easter eggs just for them and so on. But the way the take the show it is exactly the opposite, they tell their story, narrate and not show points that do raise questions. They throw in backstories that in the new show context fall flat and come of as an excuse and so on.
And you can like the show and critizise it without feeling superiour by being a book fan. But may book fans, or even critics of the show get attacked or told to just leave. You can like something and still ask questions or be critical.
Maven sure is pointing things out as a clear long longtime book fan.
And people see the show story so well written, the domestic abuse so well shown, Lestat being such a great villaind and narcist, Louis being so perfectly imperfect and better than in the book etc. All this may be true -but how can a show be better than the source material while changing nearly all major story points,and its characters, telling a complete different story and with the same breath claim to be true to the story? And even if one likes the new story or even likes it better than this books - it is simple- it is not Anne Rice VC anymore and to claim otherwise as Maven also pointed out comes off like dishonoring AR.. So of cause fans bring it up.
@@corpeter let me ask you then, are you reading the book concurrently with the show? Are you actually going through yourself, picking out the things that are the same and things that are different and not just going off of your recollection of the story? I’m not asking to disregard what you have just said, but I am simply asking. What you remembered and loved in the eyes of who you were 10 years ago could and should be different than how you would view things now. Imagine then someone who has never read the books but went specifically to search them out because of this show (I.e me, and a bunch of other people), what of their views on the source material? I think no matter what you do writing, acting, reading, etc. you bring your own perspective into the work, your own life experiences; that’s exactly what makes art, art. Ann herself imprinted aspects of her own life in these fictional characters (her birthday being the same as Louis, Claudia being modeled after her dead daughter etc) they stay true to the story and honor her by keeping some of the themes the same while not compromising on telling a new version of the tale justifying the existence of ANOTHER adaptation (as Jacob Anderson states in several of his interviews) I think some of the issue stems from trying to blend the two into one cohesive story that does feel a bit disjointed at times. But this is still season 1 and it’s not even over yet, so I feel like we can give this the benefit of doubt.
Just because _Claudia_ [and somewhat Louis] perceive Lestat as a grand schemer, doesn't necessarily make him so; they could easily perceive things as intentional and planned that were actually just reckless and thoughtlessly selfish &/or thoughtlessly inconsiderate. (I mean, dude put residential roots in a city literally just because he saw a pretty boy point a sword at their own brother and decided he wanted the boy for himself on the spot-sounds plenty impulsive to me.) But I seem to recall Lestat making some pretty elaborate schemes before, in the books, sometimes too-particularly when it came to getting what he wanted, or when he felt like it was somehow necessary for his survival. But maybe hindsight is exaggerating that a bit, in my head, I dunno.
I know a ton of people have this opinion that Louis is just being brainwashed into being with Lestat but maybe we are watching two different shows, or our understanding of people and the world are completely different! I think the show does a great job at showing how Louis and Les. bonded over time and eventually slept together before Louis was turned! I don't think a courtship is manipulation and Louis did have feelings for Les.! Relationships are more complicated and painting them with no nuance is just strange but I keep seeing it online in all the discourse about the show.
You make an excellent point about nuance. Les and Louis' relationship is... unhealthy, to say the least, but there IS a lot of genuine affection between them. I don't fully believe Lestat groomed Louis intentionally, but their "courtship" certainly ticks a lot of boxes (mostly re: multiple power dynamics before Louis was turned) as a good allegory for narcissistic abuse/grooming, which seems like the writers' deliberate choice.
ALL the vamps are damaged as hell, hurt people hurt people, and we love to watch! It's less fun and more confusing if we're trying to decide "who's the good or bad guy," because everybody's dealing with valid, complicated emotions... poorly, lol 😅!
I had hoped that the moments when Daniel is pointing out how abusive Lestat is and stopping was a commentary on the fact that Louie is an unreliable narrator. I mean Lestat and Louie both unreliable narrators when it comes to their relationship. that was something I liked about the book. But if they really are writing these scenes to convince me this version of Lestat isn't terrible it isn't working. How are you going to make him more abusive than he is in the book and yet try to convince me to feel badly for him? Okay TV show...good luck with that.
Fuckin hell thank you one person gets it omg listening to this Fandom makes me lose faith in humanity a little. The show is beating them over the head with this being the reason the books and show seem inconsistent hahaha holy shit
Well, I’ve just watched episode 7 and I am desperate for your opinions.
I enjoyed most of what they did with the episode but to be honest I was mostly intrigued by all the clues in the present.
I thought about why Lestat dragged Claudia back to Louis and I found it kinda sad that he was afraid without her he would cause Louis the same fate as Nicholas.
Looking past the show’s dramatics I’m able to see that Louis and Lestat love each other but are ill equipped to do so without causing harm at that stage.
If the writers intend to show an extreme difference between their past relationship and now present then I understand the choice.
I’m still convinced that Lestat is going to show up during the interview in the finale and the set up for season two will be Louis, Lestat and Armand giving their take on the events after New Orleans.
If we’re sticking with the unreliable narrator thing that makes the most sense to me.
I’m totally on the Rashid being Armand train but I don’t find it odd that he can walk in sunlight.
If they keep with Armand’s age and possibly mixing in him having drank from the firsts like Lestat then walking around in the sun briefly shouldn’t effect him that much.
Louis Drinking from Armand and possibly a current Lestat might explain his new Dark Gifts.
I agree with you about Lestat and Louis clearly loving each other but being ill-equipped to do so without causing harm at this point in their lives/relationship. (And about the show maybe wanting to be able to contrast the awful state of their relationship in the past to a more positive state there relationship may grow toward more in the future.)
My theory is Armand is messing with Louis memories and trying to get this interview to be published as a way to lure Lestat out in modern day. Also i am betting some money that Daniel is going to be the new David to Lestat and get turn and that his un interest in men was a lie? There are a lot of inconsistency in the flash backs which is why I think the theory would work such as him being so abusive or the lack of relationship with Claudia being shown, it’s all a way to make Lestat look worst than he is. Armand’s the master mind. For what reason? I don’t yet know 🤷🏻♀️ I am enduring season two for the hopes of a very very good and accurate season 1 of the vampire Lestat….. my only hope
I personally loved the show ❤it’s well done and very entertaining.
I came to conclusion that i'm more intrigued from the Present plot than from the Actual interview? Like, i said many times that i'm still bitter from all the HUGE changes that the show have and because of that i'm sorta not paying too much attention to Louis retelling, But the Present one? I'm invested. The huge mystery around Rashid and the reason of why Louis now want to tell his story i find it so fascinating. Human (He looks human) Doctor Fareed Bhansali being shown off and Louis and Rashid kinda toying around Daniel's mind... i'm intrigued.
Ps: I hope this series breaks the "Armand Curse" i really do
I'm glad I didn't read the novels because it's allowing me to eat this series up!
I HAVE read the novels and I rub my belly every episode sighing: "I want more"
I read them all and the changes don't bother me so much, I like to be surprised.
@@afekasi79 HAHAHAHAHA, Okay, Little Mermaid.
SAME
I read Interview and many other books from Rice. I can only say, this show is a disaster. The overall atmosphere has gone.. its like taking Godfather franchise and remaking it into series with Michael Cera playing Vito.. Lol
Hey Maven, big fan here. Just one idea: I think you're taking Louis' words way to much for the truth. When he says, there is such a bond between vampires Daniel wouldn't understand, I took it as him being defensive about taking Lestat back. Not as actual lore about some mystical bond - even though it is true that there is no equivalent from a very mechanical point of view. I do think this interview is closer to the truth than in the book or movie (with some later book hindsight), but it is still Louis and my guess is also that he has an extra agenda... like luring the vampire to him, not for a suicide attempt but for something else.
Extra question for the expert: Is there something like shape shifting or face dancing in the books? (I can't remember). What I'm fishing for is: Is there a lore reason why Louis could be Lestat in disguise or why Rashid could be Lestat or any other tin foil theory?
No, absolutely no shape shifting or visual illusions like that in the book. The closest thing would be like how Armand can create psychic dreamscape illusions, and make people see things in a different reality, but it’s like they’re dreaming briefly while awake, not something that could be carried through any sort of reality situation for a long period or just in a specific spot.
But the show has changed so much and invented so many new powers, who knows what they’ll do.
@@MavenoftheEventide Thank you, that's very interesting. I remember now something about Armand and his magic, but it's been too long since I read the first five books. About to watch the finale, can't wait for your vid. And I hope you're doing ok after the harrowing vampire ball.
I’ve only read the first 3 books but I love the show. Regarding this shocking characterization of Lestat, Sam Reid has said in multiple interviews that they “needed” that brutal scene of domestic violence to justify what happens later in the last episode, even though in the book Lestat never touched Louis, and Louis still sat back and let Claudia do what she did. Sam also emphasizes that these characters are monsters, and that Lestat is so powerful that whatever he does, as reproachable as it might seem to us, is probably a lot less horrible than what he has the power to do. (I’m not sure how I feel about this, but I do really enjoy Sam’s performance as Lestat.)
Still, since Louis is known to have lied in the first book, I am hoping that in the show he also turns out to be more unreliable than we think. I’m also looking forward to hearing Lestat’s perspective when they adapt the second book AND to get to know Lestat as I continue my journey with the books.
This was actually one of my favorite episodes 😂
Mine too!
Great video as always.
Sidenote:
I just gotta say - Ohmygod your hair looks amazing.
Theyre. Not. Necessarily. Different. From. The. Books. Theyve said multiple times that louis editorializes and lies and fools himself constantly and daniel calls him on it again and again i dont get why people dont get that lol the show literally isnt over
I'm not sure Daniel _would_ push back, because... we've seen, even though he puffed himself all up as if he *is* such an older and tougher and wiser or more wizened hard-hitting journalist or whatever .. he still has at least hints of possible PTSD from their previous interview, when Louis almost killed him. *_AND_* every single time that Daniel _has_ *actually* pushed back against Louis' new version of the story, Louis has punished him for it. (Just for one example: the major hand tremor, for asking to know too much about Claudia and/or refusing to even try and influence or control how future readers would or wouldn't perceive Claudia in all of this at all. Like, literally everytime Daniel pushes back too hard, Louis' negative reactions simply escalate worse and worse and worse-and the worse Louis reacts, the less Daniel pushes[, because methinks Daniel really doesn't want to die]; kinda like Louis somewhat, with Lestat, in Louis' story too.) I kinda feel like Daniel is literally just trying to get to the end of the interview, so he can say that he lived through it and/or that he at least heard Louis out as to whatever Louis did or didn't have to say this time around before making any final judgments.
(Also I feel like there have been a number of things, but especially that moment where Daniel asked Louis if it rained and then we saw it all over again just this time with raining included, which have actually strongly suggested that Louis may in fact _not_ actually be telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth any more now than he was before in their old interview. But, I suppose, only time will actually tell; and, in the meantime, I find wondering that question[ if Louis is or isn't] to be nearly half the fun!!^--^ Buuut that's def just me, maybe.)
Advertised as a romance? You can see the toxicity and narcissistic abuse since the very first episode. Granted the level of violence is super natural, it's still no surprise that the relationship became physically abusive. Warning or no warning, the viewer must be pretty dim if they're that surprised it happened.
Annnnd daniel didn't believe tht it happened lol
@@hughmungus431 Irrelevant
@@williamhunter8773 Actually, @hughmungus431 was supporting your point: abuse victims are almost never believed at face value (although the scene hits way harder when Louis does the same thing to Claudia in S2 with, "that doesn't sound like him," oof)!
As for your OP, I don't think it's necessary to shame other viewers for not seeing what you and I saw as obvious from the jump. Usually Louis' role is played by a woman, but his and Lestat's "courtship" follows a common trope in "romance" stories, only the moral of *those* stories is, "so what your boyfriend is a narcissistic abuser sometimes? You're the exception, the beauty to his beast; your love will protect you from his violent tendencies," or whatever. For people who are used to that narrative and shocked by this one, I hope it helps them make healthier relationship choices IRL 🙏🏾
I'm baffled as to why I haven't heard a single reviewer even mention the fact that Louis beat Lestat in retaliation in this episode. Beat him so badly, in fact, that even with the accelerated healing of a healthy vampire who's had plenty of human blood, he's still covered in visible marks by the time they sit down with Claudia to go over the rules. (You can even see bite marks on his neck, which I assume are tit for tat for him draining Louis.) This is SO CRUCIAL to understanding why Louis takes Lestat back. He savagely beat the man he loved while that man was unresisting and helpless. He must be thinking, "I did the same thing; therefore, I'm just as bad."
I literally mention that exact thing at 20:34
I think the show didn’t want to go with exact, but more with symbolism. Because to me the movie version fell flat of showing me any emotion. It was to try to stick to the book, but didn’t give the drama the TV needs for ppl that didn’t read the book. I feel Lestat needed to do those things so we could see Louie didn’t really have a choice how HE thinks he did. At the end of the day Lestat that chose him. He didn’t choose Lestat. Anywho I understand Romance lovers would be disappointed in the less than perfect romance. I could tell where they were goin after the episode when Lestat was calling to him. Incredibly spooky😂😂 But I liked it, I didn’t even see it as a black-and-white thing either, I saw that as a very toxic relationship.
I think a lot of the audience would be much more accepting of rolling with the way the show is altering it if the showrunners hadn't spent SO MUCH time and emphasis before it came out telling everyone how "true to the spirit of Anne Rice" it was, and how their version was going to show the love story that all other versions had been too homophobic to show. They really advertised it misleadingly... They could have saved so much drama if they'd just been up front with what they were going for from the start. They're allowed to be as different as they want! But they sold it to us as something completely other than what it is.
@@MavenoftheEventide definitely understandable. I didn’t hear about the show until I just stumbled upon it the first week day it came out. I probably like it more because I didn’t have an expectation 😂😂
@@MavenoftheEventide I didn't interpret "spirit of Anne Rice" necessarily meaning complete accuracy. The creator mentioned in the BTS video this is a third thing next to the book and movie. He said they were going to keep the major plot points, but the way that this version gets there will be completely different.
@@MavenoftheEventide
amc was too scared to own up to the fact that this is a different story altogether because they need to hook the readers who are the core fanbase. they still need to make their money back, and if they straight up told that this is a re-imagining of the characters and won't be like the books, probably half the book readers would already say "no thank you".
@@MavenoftheEventide I only remember seeing them say it wouldn't shy away from the gayness, which the movie was criticized for not showing. I don't remember them saying anything about how much of a love story it would be or not... but maybe I missed something? 🤔
(I mean, didn't the trailer show Louis talking about being hunted without ever realizing it was happening, as well as screaming about bedding the devil[ who is actually Lestat] and not being able to think clearly anymore because the devil is in his head?)
I disagree because Because they’re telling the story in 2020 to 2023 they would have to move the stories fit within the prince Lestat blood communion era which means if they are going forward with the queen of the damned and tales of the body thief and stories like that it would have to be done in that timeline Plus you had to know they would be huge changes once they made Louis and Claudia Black an aged up Lestat 150 years least that’s how I approach it but I only read two books 15 years ago so
Oh man I was waiting to see what you thought because I knew you wouldn’t like it. Personally as a TVC stan since I was 11 years old, I’m sooooo conflicted about this show. I initially was super thrown by the timeline change because Anne’s aesthetic is like imprinted in my brain, and this change kinda messed with that a lot, but that’s really superficial so ultimately I ended up not minding it as much. I love the performances on this show. I wasn’t a fan of Louis initially, but that quickly changed because I loved what Jacob was doing in the role and I love how he’s slowly evolved into the Louis we all love. Something about his gentleness and his smile is so so so Louis, and you can see why everyone is so in love with him. He’s so beautiful.🥹 Sam has been possessed by Lestat, Anne’s Lestat, THE Lestat, which is why I’m so conflicted because I don’t understand why the writers are turning him into this one dimensional cartoony villain, so they can turn Claudia (who Bailey is playing so wonderfully) into this one dimensional virtuous hero. It’s jarring as hell because it’s not necessary. Even though Lestat was more of a villain from Louis’ pov in IWTV he wasn’t a caricature, and everyone in these books is layered, complicated, and grey. It’s just puzzling me as a fan because on some level I SEE what they’re doing, I just don’t understand WHY?! And it’s almost like the writers are diminishing the fact that they’re vampires, literal gothic romantic monsters, to tell tale this kind of boring contemporary human story about domestic violence and the cycle of abuse. Again I just wanna ask, WHY?!? Anne Rice characters are so much more than that, and Anne always asked deeper questions. So I’m conflicted because there’s so much I love about this show, but episode 5 divided the fans and drew this weird line in the sand. Now most of the audience hates Lestat as like this poster boy for toxic white man whose terrorizing our poor POC heroes, and it’s sooooo not what Anne wrote, and as a POC myself, it just leaves me scratching my head. I’m excited for the finale but wtf are they gonna do next?! Also there’s this weird vibe from fans like you can’t be critical of this show because of its themes and I’m like, Anne Rice fans have always been super critical of every aspect of these books, and have always picked them a part, lovingly and exasperatedly because that’s the nature of the beast, so there was no way we weren’t with this show. I’m still watching and I still really like it, but there’s a lot about it that I also am very critical of.🤷🏽♀️
You don’t think there are any layers to tv Lestat? You just see him as a straight villain?
I’m just asking. I’ve never read the books. I’ve only seen the 1994 movie, the QOTD movie, and this series. I’ve always loved Lestat. I still do even considering episode 5. He isn’t one-dimensional to me. I’m just curious why you see him that way.
I’m a black female by the way! I watch a lot of horror, and given that these are vampires, I really didn’t see the fight as DV. It was just two vamps fighting. These are supernatural creatures. I would rather not attach all this humanity to them or view them with a human lens. That ruins the fun if you ask me!
exactly that! I am the same. I am asking why and for what reason, I do not see it (yet) Therefore I totally agree with Maven as well - it is not working especially when keep on referencing the source material. The show story in itself is quite straight forward in depicting an abusive relation and the aftermath - but why do you need Anne Rice VC in order to go for a mundane twisted so called romantic story, that never was one. I see what they are doing and I do follow but I keep also asking myself why? What is the purpose and why Anne Rice for telling this kind of story.
So I am torn. I am watching and somehow like it (cinematography, the actors and so on) but I am also very critical and honestly do not trust the writers to come up with a solid answer. I fear it might just go the easy way blaming it on the unreliable narration instead of giving some depth and character development. ( I am with Claudia a sappy backstory is no excuse for the behaviour shown) I am saying this because how they handled many things Maven also pointed out, that even going with the storyline and by putting in easter eggs does just not sum up - for fans of the source material and to a point in itself contradicting within their own story telling.
So far I was like ep. 1 interesting, 2 oh well they do not know where they want to go, 3 oh now we go mundane but at least they left behind the books, so good for them, 4 oh now we are back to the books in a way, 5 oh well they just screwed over the whole VC and created a supervillain for the sake of having one 6) now I am just sad and I hope they will manage to turn things around later. So I am curious.
And same as you - I was also picking the books apart for they have flaws but I just love them (not all but most) - and as you are - of cause I want to know where the show goes nevertheless.
i disagree. Lestat here is very complex and compelling. More so than in the first book. The fight with Louis and Lestat i prefer than in the books, As mush as i love Anne, Lestat was an abuser thats a fact. I am glad the show runners went full violence intead of just emotional abuse. Cause Emotional abuse is worse, though people like to exuce it.
thank you for this. the non-book readers have been acting like you can't criticize their beloved show and point out how much of a betrayal it is to the books. it's not a problem if people enjoy it, but at least accept the fact that amc is doing their own thing with the characters that the books never told. this is not the books anymore. show-lestat is nothing like anne rice's lestat.
I legit yelled Maven was right! When Armand took off hos gloves and contacts.
This show has taken the plot holes and thin character development in very good books and made the story extraordinary. Absolutely extraordinary show.
you know youre wrong and this sht HURTS to read, be quiet and leave the fandom if you hate the source material that bad 🤣 lmfao
Please tell me you guys caught the name drop of “Those Who Must Be Kept” I got so excited Lol
Louis is an unreliable narrator throughout this entire season ESPECIALLY given the reveal of ep 7
Where have you been?! I've missed your vampire ways and reviews and was getting worried 😭. My heart😩🔥 Glad to see you back. I hope you had fun! Looking forward to your review of the finale! Twitter people are saying it's the best episode yet... Until the second season!😍
I got the chance to watch the finale yesterday (after I'd already shot this video), and I hard disagree with the Twitter people 🙃
@@MavenoftheEventide Oh no. That bad? Will you be doing a full season review after the season wraps up? Perhaps pointing out the show's hits and misses?
@@MavenoftheEventide Also, what do you make of the theory going on that different vampires have different powers? Some people say that Lestat possess the Cloud and Mind gift whereas Louis possesses the Fire gift and preternatural Charm because EVERYONE who comes across Louis seems to become enamored, even obsessed with him. In Claudia's case she possesses a kind of Sonic scream, giving how her shrieks seemed to crack the mirrors. Is this how it works in the books?
@@freddyjafar1490 well no it is not like this in the books. But who knows what the showmakers make of it or why they did include those powers. Maybe they will tell where they got them, maybe not. Louis and Claudia have no powers at all in the book, not even mind reading. And Lestat in this point of the story besides being very strong (through his maker Magnus being 3000 yo - strenght is transfered through the blood given by a vampire to another but there is no guarantee how it will work out and if at all) - well lestat has no powers at this point but gets them later in the book by drinking from stonger vampires (which Louis refuses because he does not want to become less human than he already is). So vampires do have different abilities but ususally due to age or having drank blood from an ancient one.
@@corpeter I see! Thanks for the clarification 😂
I discovered your channel right when the show started, CZcams recommended it to me without even searching for anything about it! I am so glad it did, fabulous coverage and I love your channel! ❤ 🧛🏻♂️
...Yeah idk Maven. I've been a fan for awhile, I generally think your takes are on point but so far I feel like we aren't watching the same show. Like someone else in the comments said "respectfully, you're tripping."
@@Fiveash-Art ok
"😭😭 someone perceived the show and formed an opinion different from mine woe is me" stfu the show is trash lmfao, disrespectfully; youre the one whos tripping lol
@albertmilton9424 yeah i agree. i admire her dedication to every single detail of both the show and the book and the effort she put into this (otherwise i wouldn't have watched all her reviews) but i feel like she draws some weird conclusions from the text while completely ignoring subtext or adding subtext that i didn't feel was there (though subtext is subjective, so i don't blame her for that). i agree with her on some points (like the domestic abuse being unnecessary or the change of lestat's attitude towards humanity) but i'm lost with nearly all of her other opinions
@@GraveyardShift-tl6ri Okay? I didn't say anything about being upset about her opinions. Are you that incapable of understanding how discourse works? Also, there was a reason I said "respectfully" and maintained that I was a fan. Go drink some water or something.
@@Fiveash-Art I’ve read nearly all the books, and I love the show.
It took awhile to get used to the changes, but it’s really good.
I think he is still impulsive, but likes to pretend he is always thinking 2 steps ahead by playing chess.
Yes, both he and Claudia were doing some grandiose trash talking. He's teaching her to strategize and lie effectively under pressure. She doesn't understand his old fashioned, tough love teaching methods, but she does benefit from them enough to turn the tables on him.
I'm pretty sure Claudia wants Lestat to kill Antoinette because she never believes for a second that he actually will, which would [I think ]she feels prove to Louis that Lestat is selfish and lies and doesn't actually care about Louis so much as just cares that Lestat wants to have Louis to Lestat's own self and get whatever Lestat wants whenever Lestat wants it.
I don't think Lestat made any pretense of Antoinette just happening to perish in a fire to Louis and Claudia-he was obviously making a pretense of having personally murdered her, just for them, no matter how he allegedly covered it up to avoid discovery by humans or not.
He definitely set that fire and staged it as an accident for the police, but knew Louis and Clauida would know he did it. He just put a different person's body in it. Why didn't he take the finger from that same body, though?? He brutalized Antoinette just to be awful to her, just as abusive to her as he is to his family.
@@MavenoftheEventide Maybe to show that Lestat's feelings for her haven't actually lasted as long as the affair has? And that he really does have motivations other than love for Antoinette for turning away from Louis/Claudia/ and to her instead?
Maybe they would have been able to smell if it wasn't really her finger?? 🤔
I don't know.!
(Admittedly, I did find myself wondering why, too; even though, at the same time, kinda not..because it's just fairly consistent with his characterization thus far. But it hasn't felt to me as if they're doing it or anything else just for the macabre spectacle of it or to try and one-up Rice's books at all either, but I don't really know how to explain why not.)
Maybe he hoped in a twisted way, if they did somehow disbelieve him or discover he hadn't actually killed her, the fact that he took her finger would still somehow buy him some brownie points for clearly not being more dedicated to her than he is to them?😅
I don’t feel like the show wants us to agree with Louise about lestat being a decent guy it’s clear to me lestat is a monster and Louise is abused and the writers also feel that way
if the writers do really feel that way - they did assasinate the character the whole of 13 book Chronicles is about (more or less - apart from maybe 4, which have other characters POVs and backstories) and that actually would be a shame, since they want to cover all of the chronicles and Lestat is the main character. But at this point I think anything is possible.
@@corpeter I’ve read 6 so far and honestly I don’t feel like Lestat isn’t a manipulative monster sure he’s humanized and deeply written but I’ve always felt Louis was more trustworthy then lestat. I mean he becomes human and rapes a woman then forces himself on David turning him against his will so with those two things alone i don’t have a hard time believing he could be the “bad guy” with that being said i love these books but who lestat is never escapes me
@@anthonyamos8680 I agree in some parts with you in regards to your statement regarding the books. Lestat is the anti-hero type and he likes to play with the image of the bad guy. But he embraces who he is, he stays true to himself - and he can be a lot. What I do not see him as - is an abuser who abuses and surpresses the "people" around him. He does not follow rules, he can be dismissive of certain sentiments and therefor disrespectfull - but he is no sadist. He is quite reverent of humanity but also does not fall into depression if he happens to kill an innocent. He is a vampire after all.
If he does do mistakes - and the 2 things you mention were bad but he felt bad about it and he acknowledged them and tried to make up for them, he apologized but he did not asked to be excused nor forgiven, because he knows it was wrong. And he ment his apology. (nothing unsincere like in the show) In regards to David well he hoped he would forgive him some day but not easily.
So I think the way he is deeply layered written is important to his character. He is not good - but he is the first to tell you to be aware he is not. He is very straight forward when it comes to this.
As for book Louis I always did believe his account. It is what he felt at that time. The love came much later. But Louis account was not one of being abused. He did resent Lestat for how he went about things. Louis himself being depressed and philosophical - Lestat a man of action and happy go lucky. Try it, win it - fail - but do it and cope with it. Its were their conflict stems from as well as their fights. (no beat downs)
Sure Claudia was a mistake and he did manipulate Louis into staying - but he was open about it. And Lestat loved her deeply - so her going against him was all the more painful. He mourns for her - he regrets the suffering she had to go trough because of his mistake and impulsiveness - but he loved her and does not regret making her because it would mean not having had her as a daughter for 65 years. And he paid for his mistake and he accepts it and does not resent her nor Louis.
Lestat saying Louis lies is more like a - ah you "understand nothing John Snow" than a "you liar". He admits to his mistakes, that things could have been handled better - and this makes him not the bad guy but very human despite his vampire nature. So I do believe Louis but I also believe Lestat, both can be true at the same time and this is what made the books interesting for me.
But this does not work if you have him a monster only that abused his lover and child like he is now in the show. And in that regard having the unreliable narration is problematic. So either the writers see him as a moster - but that deletes everything that makes his character interesting or likeable for me - or it is all a lie. But this again would be highly problematic and it does not sit right. As much as I love watching Sam Reid - and for his acting alone want to believe in his character - I cannot brush it aside as cute. But who knows, maybe we get another abuser story now and it is all a lie and manipulation even more than before and Louis stays forever abused. Poor Louis. Or maybe they surprise us.
Sorry for my long comment.
@@corpeter I love how passionate you are with these books again I’ve only read 6 so far and love them. Your answer is hard to argue but I suppose it’s mostly comes down to how much change are you willing to endure with the show and i suppose it probably didn’t bother me as much because I’ve seen these kind of relationships and it feels accurate to those, the horrible things these characters occasionally do, and because lestat was the villain of the first book. I’m also patient when it comes to show to see where it’s going for example is lestat going to grow out of it or argue all of Louis story. Personally I like Louis here but he’s my favorite fro the book I miss my super depressed Louis from the book. How he just drifts through life in dusty clothes and rejects his powers because of how much he hates them
so I came up with a theory...When the movie came out a lot of people just saw the movie and never read the book or read the vampire lestat first before going back and reading interview. I remember the general consensus of brad pitts louis as being whiny and emo. Now my mom had bought interview at a garage sale when i was a kid. I read this book when i was 7th grade. I didnt see louis in the book as whiny. I can see if one would only had watched Tom Cruise's Lestat I can see where you can come to that conclusion. I feel like maybe this series is Anne Rices way of telling us no..he was really conflicted. not just whiny. Like a redemption for Louis. This theory Im telling myself cause as much as I dont want to admit it I cant stand this adaptation.
Omg Maven !! I can’t wait for ur review of Episode 7! 😅😅 girllllllll
She finna drag that episode. That episode was a hot mess
@@Lonewolf1997dark Depends on ur definition of a hot mess. If yu are jst going to compare to the book than yu may think that. But about it was a hot mess?
I really liked this season over all.
@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 me too. I can’t wait till season two
35:35 I don't see how all of the above cant be true. When lestat perceives a threat he is a machiavalean (probably spelled that wrong) fighter. When he is not fighting and in the presence of his lessers he is relaxed and impulsive. All of the above can be true. That's how they are going to beat him, it's his blindness to his true enemies are, tragically....the ones he created.
I was waiting (enduring the rest, if you may) for you to address the Rashid thing at the end because I knew you'd be glad.
Isn't Claudia bleating referring to Lestat's calling her and Louis 'sheep leading the dog'?
I'm still hoping that the big contradiction between Louis's "I wasn't abused" in 2022 and the clearly spelled out domestic abuse narrative in the flashbacks (with Louis described as a housewife, a family member speaking up for him because he's too entrapped by Lestat, Lestat's gifts, and then accepting him back with a list of rules that he starts breaking the moment he can) is intentional.
Granted, I just started reading Prince Lestat, (I had stopped reading the series after Blackwood Farm years ago) but I'm confused as to how the Dr. Fareed in the show can't be the Dr. Fareed from the books? Just because here he is still human? Like, did we meet Fareed as a human at some point in the Prince Lestat books, and he's completely different? Because we barely saw his personality in this episode. Just mostly denying that he was there. I totally think he's Fareed from the book; he is just still human at this point.
It's like some book fans saying show-Daniel is not the same as book-Daniel. Well, no shit. Book-Daniel was in his early 20s. Show-Daniel is pushing 70. What 70-year-old acts exactly like they did when they were in their early 20s? No one knows what book-Daniel would have been like if he'd ever made it to 70-years-old.
I'm not saying he can't be, just that he wasn't written TO be. They can make the characters any way they like, change whatever they want about their backstory and personality. But this doctor was originally written TO be someone else, and then all they changed was his name (the script I read for the original doctor was exactly the same as what ended up in the scenes in the show). So when they got the idea to call him Fareed, they didn't do anything with the character to support him BEING the Fareed from the books. It's just a name swap.
I'm not saying it would be bad if this guy is now actually Fareed, I'm just predicting that the show probably won't use him in Fareed's actual role from the books, because it never conceived him that way in the first place.
@@MavenoftheEventide Okay, I think I understand. I didn't read the script. But I do wonder, was it the shooting script or a script section put out for casting? Because there are a lot of instances of scripts being put out there for casting that use different names if they want to keep a character's true identity hidden. Like I think they are doing with Rashid. Not saying they didn't decide to make a random doctor character Fareed. It's just even with only the first few chapters I've read of the book, I've been getting some Prince Lestat vibes off the show, even before Fareed showed up. And FWIU (or at least what's been said on Tumblr because I didn't follow the Behind the Scenes lead-up), Prince Lestat was said to be one of the books the showrunners recommended reading.
It's possible they could have used a fake name for his casting, and I considered that too. But why? It's not any kind of surprise or spoiler. And they didn't shy away from using other character's canon names like Oncle Vervain and such (even though he ended getting cut out of the final draft).
The doctor doesn't come back in another scene or do anything else that this scene could be setup for (he's not in episode 7). He seems to exist solely for the sake of worldbuilding to let the audience see further what kind of power/security Louis has in the modern world with all these people who keep his secrets (The specific PL connection Rolin Jones explained was exploring how vampires exist in a world of internet and surveillance cameras and that's why Louis lives in Dubai because it has the strictest privacy laws in the world). It's possible they'll bring the doctor back in season 2, but the showrunners said in the panels that they didn't know if they would get a season 2 and were writing season 1 as if it might be their only one and doing the most they could with it, packing in as much as possible (they said they're approaching season 2 this way too, writing every season as if it's the last).
Here's the description from his casting call:
Samesh Kulkarn. He is a hotshot posing as a cool customer and is actually Louis’ personal doctor. Samesh is highly educated with a droll sense of humor and deals with the rich and powerful. Casting is looking for a Middle Eastern/North African/Asian/Anglo-Indian man in his Mid-30s-Mid-50s.
Much more description than Rashid's extremely mysterious and sparse casting call included. So it seemed they had a clear idea of Samesh's character, and it doesn't sound like Fareed at all 🤷
It's all guessing and predictions at this point, who knows what they'll end up doing with him. Maybe now that they had the idea to call him Fareed, and they're getting that season 2, they'll morph him INTO Fareed and have the storyline where he actually meets Seth and has his own vampire journey (though it would be extremely different with him knowing of vampires as a human prior as he does here). I would sure like to see that. But I'm not holding my breath.
@@MavenoftheEventide Okay, I understand it all more now. And yeah, they did have no idea of they would get a S2 at the time. Fareed could have just been an easter egg that, if no S2 happened, would have been just there for the fans, but left them room just in case. Very true.
Interesting to hear how sparse they made Rashid. Makes it clear they always had him being something more.
Lestat is DESERVING of forgiveness? Come on here. As the undead Brat Prince himself says says; "oh, Lestat, you better not die, you might actually go to Hell". Likeable bloke, but none the less, the good Marquise is, tbh, a total bastard.
Thanks for the review but I gotta express my frustration with the sanitization of all media these days. People are more upset by the depiction of violence than actual violence. As a gay POC I saw nothing wrong with the Episode 5 abuse. I’m an adult living in 2022…how is that too far. How do these easily triggered people function in society? I’m offended by their offensiveness. It’s ridiculous.
Are you serious?
@@anrysse do I seem serious?
@@UltimateAwe Yes
@@anrysse well then
Because stuff like abuse and especially domestic abuse is triggering to to people. Victims of abuse view and handle things very differently because of what they went through. This is such a tone deaf and insensitive take. And just because you weren’t offended as an gay poc doesn’t mean that other people weren’t. Especially if the people that were offended were black themselves.
Probably the one thing that bothers me, personally, about the tv series is the way that Claudia's assault is basically like...ye old 'corrective'/teaches-character-a-lesson/ style r @ p 3 s, that used to be super super atrociously common.
Literally everything else either isn't bothering me personally, or is at least not so bad that I feel it detracts from the series overall.
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I am a big fan of the books and still think this adaptation is fantastic. In my opinion, there would be little merit in doing a beat-by-beat translation from book to screen, notwithstanding that elements of the books are frankly problematic, and others would be hard to bring to TV practically. Some book fan absolutists have blind loyalty to the original texts that clouds judgement and precludes fair critique. They can't watch the show without auditing it against original text.
I remain interested in your unique insights and pointing out Easter eggs that I have missed, but I disagree with your choice to make a monolith of the audience in terms of our reactions to certain elements of the show. This stuff is dark for sure but, alas, that is life... and this show is art imitating life.
I look forward to your final ep review.
The dark elements is what I love about the show. I guess I'm a weirdo. 😅
@@_notmyproblem_ If you are a weirdo then so am I. All of these people referring to “needed trigger warnings”, I’m like really?
Best articulation I have read so far in regards to the difference in approach by sections of the fandom.
I am 100% in agreement. It would be very boring in it’s predictability if it was a play-by-play. I’d have very little reason to stay up and watch. As for the auditing… best way I’ve seen it described. I hope you don’t mind me using your phrasing from here onwards.
@@Sasha0406 Girl…..I thought it was just me! A TW for a fight btw two vamps on a horror show? Umm…I guess.
the fact is that this show is just bad and poorly written
Even Jacob Anderson said having 2 people in the coffin was way more comfortable. So i guess he liked it when Sam was in there too. 😁
It's about fictional creatures who kill humans (& each other sometimes) in brutal ways. But people were upset to see Lestat beat up Louis in the series?
Yes… because vampire violence is not the same as domestic violence. She even makes a point of explaining why
Right like the selection outrage is annoying.
@@clarenceneal3814 good point, really. But...its still absurd for anyone to get bent out of shape over this watching the AMC series. Be shocked, take sides, but all the characters are monsters (some worse than others). I didn't like watching Lestat beat Louis that way either.
@@clarenceneal3814 also, violence is violence, domestic or otherwise. It's rarely justifiable.
@@cherryontop821 not sure I fully get ur point.
Yay!! I was looking for your video all week!! I can’t wait to see what your thoughts are about the finale!!!!
Annnnnnnnnnd as i said many times before since epispde 2, Rashid IS ARMAND.
So, I've never seen the 1994 movie or this TV show, or read any of the books, but your videos are SO GOOD and I'm so interested in this story!! I love your over the top-ness 😁☺️😄😁
I mean... Lestat does tell Louis that he has constantly held himself back, when Louis has fought with him before, up until then. But Louis also stopped holding back, in that moment, and also used vampire speed/strength against Lestat[ which is not something we've ever seen Louis do before either except that one time right after Louis' first kill before Louis even knew his own vampire abilities and strengths or weaknesses or powers or such]-Lestat just has.....a whole heck of a lot *more* vampire speed and strength than Louis, and than Louis has ever seen before then.
Buut, I absolutely agree that it's weird that 6 has a content warning and 5 didn't. 👀
(The only way that makes sense to me is because of the psychological aspect to it, rather than just physical, in episode 6. I mean, we see Lestat stalking them..refusing to let them leave..and claiming that he would never ever do it again, whilst also simultaneously losing his temper again later on the first moment he doesn't get his way absolutely perfectly.)
It kinda makes sense to me that, considering what we all know is coming for the three of them in the future, the tv series might want to 100% fully justify exactly _why_ Louis and Claudia do what they are about to do. And it wasn't just little Claudia corrupting Louis and seducing him away from Lestat or whatever, which is kinda how it seems in the books/movie. 😅😅🙃👀 buut I dunno.
I do agree with you in your last paragraph. That’s the only reason I can come up with that makes sense for why they went as extreme as they did. I haven’t seen the finale yet, but knowing what’s coming eventually, it seems like they’re trying to get everyone watching on the “let’s kill lestat” bandwagon together, so that when it works and then doesn’t, it hits emotionally very hard. But I… I don’t know. I don’t know if even that justifies what they made this lestat do. Perhaps it was also to show *just* how powerful he is, so that killing him feels like an insurmountable task. I really hope the writers are able to pull off one hell of a redemption arc, because this is my toxic as hell, beautiful otp and I need them to end up together in the end as they do in the books time and again.
@@isabellp.5730 I'm pretty much with you~
Thank you so much Maven for these stellar reviews of the series!!
You're absolutely fantastic! So informative and entertaining!
Works for me
I think Louis wondered about Paul's death several times...the first time is when Louis greets Grace in the living room as she was having dinner and gazing at Paul's picture and he had a moment...I think Louis was thinking Lestat had something to do with that...the next time was when the soldier mentioned to Louis that he was sorry about Pau's death, and Louis was like "yea, Paul" which was his second moment if Lestat was involved in his death...
Serious (albeit rhetorical) Question: Are Lestat's character-swings poor writing choices, or an accurate depiction of abusers who REALLY think they love their victims and feel REALLY bad about their bad behavior, but can't/won't just deal with their own issues and change 😅?
I was a bit confused when Lestat starts talking about sensing Claudia's emotions while she was with Bruce. I thought it was him revealing he could always read her & Louie's thoughts, making the chess scene much more intriguing. But I guess he was just referring to Bruce's emotions. After all what's the difference between reading minds & reading emotions.
Well, if he can read Bruce's mind, he can also maybe indirectly find anything in Bruce's mind that Bruce's mind might have gotten from out of Claudia's mind too.
But...yeah..some people consider feelings to be something that is 'in people's minds' ? And I guess, sometimes, what people think can be somewhat reflective of how they're feeling? &/or what's in someone's mind can affect or influence somewhat how they're feeling, too? Buut, in reality, there is a distinct difference between an Empath & a Mind Reader .. and from a show that seemingly made a distinction between planting thoughts into someone's mind versus pulling thoughts out of their mind, it seems like a nuance this show shouldn't miss, but maybe they really are just fuzzy on their own continuity like Maven says they are or maybe Lestat was actually supposed to be whispering so fast and/or so slow or something[ while targeting Louis' first kill in episode 2 and cautioning Louis not to scare the man away or whatever] that humans couldn't perceive it but Louis' vampire hearing somehow still could? Buut I don't know.
_Basically -I thought that bit was a weird thing for Lestat to say to Claudia, too- is what I'm saying here._ 😅🙃🤔😅 Lol